Uranus square Pluto: Sudden, Unexpected Wipeout – 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015


tableI have always been interested in the way things happen. I pay attention to patterns and watch stories unfold and tell themselves.

Some people have things in their life occur in a Neptune-type way. There may be a slow wasting, as opposed to a dramatic event. There is a leaking, weakening, eroding effect, like what happens to the body and soul of an alcoholic over time. This is distinctly different then the Uranus Pluto energy we’re going to be dealing with over the next few years.

Uranus + Pluto describes a sudden, unexpected wipe-out. A person who goes through something like this has a lot of energy around them which may be attractive, repulsive or both.Β  My husband has gone through periods like this (and has a Uranus Pluto contact in his chart). I was looking for words to describe this phenomena and asked him how he would characterize his experience.

He said that a table can fail. One of the legs might become wobbly and you can deal with it. In other cases, the leg might snap. In his life though, what happens is all four legs of the table explode. They’re blown to smithereens and the top of the table smashes to the ground.

As an example there was the time he lost everything in his life except for a computer. One day later, a tree fell on the room in someone’s house he had rented, smashing that computer. (pic)

I am prone to suffering devastating loss myself. It’s almost comical how much one person can go through while so many around them are unscathed, but with Uranus in hard aspect to Pluto into 2015, this kind of jarring trauma will hit the collective.

You won’t be able to rely on us lightning rod types to absorb the energy for you. Instead, we’re liable to emerge as leaders since we’ve essentially been inoculated against this kind of plague. It simply won’t effect us the way it will someone who has lived and insulated life and not had to deal with nor witness this level of trauma.

Have you ever suffered a total wipeout? Is there a Uranus Pluto exchange in your chart?

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Uranus square Pluto: Sudden, Unexpected Wipeout – 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015 — 53 Comments

  1. Yes, the cardinal cross in 2010 occurred right on my natal Uranus Jupiter conjunction. Lost almost everything, although I did find a kind soul to give me & my cat a roof over our heads for an extended period of time. Otherwise, I would have lost her, too, because I would have had to live at the homeless shelter

  2. They are not directly contacted. But, they are joined by Mars which connects them both in the 8th house.

    The most dramatic that I can remember is living in a motel with my 1 year old (at the time). It was a one room..door wouldn’t lock..had to put a chair up against it. There was no window. But, a hole was cut in the wall for an air conditioner, except the air conditioner didn’t work. So, it was removed and the hole covered with plastic.

    You learn at a very early age to start over from scratch. This is life.

  3. I feel this way sometimes. It’s why it’s so hard for me to just flow and chill and let things take care of themselves. I’m always ready to hear that the town twenty miles away from me got blown up with a backpack nuke.

    I am *always* ready but sometimes the anxiety/anticipation churns and burns me out into detonating something myself just because I can see it going.

    And I’ve felt like one day someone is going to need this vast repository of knowledge I seem to have about the impermanence of things. Someday society is going to need my talent for operating competently in the abyss. It’s kind of where I am most of the time anyway and mostly I think I’ve been there my whole life.

  4. I have both Uranus rx & Pluto rx in the 8th. I’ve not suffered a total wipe out (yet) and I’m hoping not to. I’ve been through a lot and I’ve learned to turn devastation into power but I have to admit I’m nervous.

  5. Well, we’ll see how it’s going to work out for me: scorpio rising with Pluto in Libra 9″ and Neptune in Sadge 9″. And yes, my life was wiped out 3 times: 1st time I was 8 months old, parents got divorced(I still don’t know how my father looks like, never seen him), I was moved to suburbs to live with my grandma. Got back to my mom when I was 4 yo. 2nd time I was 23 yo, I immigrated to the US, I had my purse and a container with my cat,no clothes. 3rd time I was 33 yo, I was evicted from my apartment, couldn’t find a job after I graduated from a college, lost all furniture and household goods, still have eviction charges on my credit report.

  6. When Saturn was in Virgo conjunct my Uranus/Pluto conjunction, I lost a lot. (2008)

    When Saturn conjuncted my Venus in Libra, I lost everything else including my family. (2011) I also gained during this time as well.What I have now is far better than what I had. Looking back, Saturn conjunct Venus changed how and what I value. I am ready for Saturn to be conjunct my natal Sun/Neptune conjunction. It will also oppose my natal Jupiter and sextile my natal Uranus/Pluto conjunction. The last time this happened, my grandmother died, got my first full time job, was raped and received a bad burn. Loss and gain. Jupiter in the 8th house in Taurus magnifies my losses and gains but my Sun/Neptune conjunction in the 2nd in Scorpio gives me faith that I will arise out of the ashes a better person.

  7. I also have Pluto conjunct Uranus widely conjunct (5 degrees) but in the 12th house and on my ASC – so yes, I’ve experienced a wipe-out more than once. I too have had to start from ground zero and have learned — been forced to learn — the valuable lesson of non-attachment. Thank you for offering this perspective Elsa, especially on a collective level. True, I may experience yet another wipe-out and oh well. Been there, done that. Not easy or fun, but each time it’s happened I was propelled into a whole new way of life I would have never gone into willingly. I’m in Colorado and all around me are wildfires and now flood. Some have already experienced total devastation and wipe-out and it could be me next. At this juncture, my life feels the most creative and authentic it has ever felt — but who knows? Maybe there’s more for me to learn through the wipe-out format? Hope not, but I’ve learned not to underestimate the power or far-reaching profound value of Pluto and Uranus together…

  8. As airyaquari said “learned to turn devastation into power” with this succinct sum up of the results from Michele “have had to start from ground zero and have learned β€” been forced to learn β€” the valuable lesson of non-attachment.”

    I no longer expect everything to stay as is ‘if I just fix that one thing or do that one thing’. Doesn’t matter how many precautions, plans, etc. things will happen anyway. I’ve got Mars, Pluto and Uranus together in 3rd or 4th house. I’ve learned – forced to – how to use that.

    This doesn’t mean I won’t be hurt if/when wipeout occurs again. But acceptance and ease of walking out of it will be easier I hope.

    Thanks for this Elsa. Much needed post.

  9. Pluto is sextile with Uranus and Neptune on my chart. What seems to happen is slow deterioration for a while, followed by sudden collapse, or upsurge.

  10. My natal Uranus-Pluto form an exact novile 40 degree aspect. My childhood was very unstable with two contentious parents, lots of food when $ was available…no food otherwise…I remember the year-of-potato-everything, as we had nothing else. Utilities that were more off than on. Near homeless many times and homeless once. The family exploded when transiting Uranus hit my natal Pluto…my sister and I were removed from our parents when transiting Neptune was conjunct my natal Sun and square natal Pluto. I abhorred my new home…ran away four years later at the age of 16, when both transiting Uranus and Pluto were conjunct my natal moon. I made-up some lame story for a Greyhound bus driver and made my way for the big city. I stayed in the lobby of an upscale hotel for five days with only the clothes I had on and no money…finally, the hotel detective inquired (I was probably getting smelly-ripe by then!) and I made-up some feeble story…he fed me at the hotel’s coffee shop. The shop’s manager hired me on the spot as a busboy…she paid me in advance so I could rent this very cheap, dilapidated, ancient hotel room. I was on my own from then on. I’ve had other adventures with Uranus-Pluto since, but all were pale compared to my first escape into the wild. Oddly, all of that seemed inconsequential at that time and, without hesitation, I moved into a new dimension!

  11. It’s interesting, though, that Mercury retrograde, is now almost exactly conjunct with my natal retrograde Pluto, only 6′ difference, and I have already seen problems created by saying too much, too provocatively.

  12. 1999, Saturn return, finished school, injured on the job, lost my job, lost my apartment, boyfriend dumped me, on friend’s couch until she kicked me out b/c her boyfriend moved in. Couch surfed, then road tripped it 5000 miles back to my parents, with just a suitcase. Rehabbed my injuries and started a new career about than 1 year later.

    2002, not sure the aspects, rode a bus that nailed a minivan, injured again, lost my job, lost my apartment, THE SAME boyfriend dumped me (ah, I was a slow learner in love!) found myself on a friend’s couch, again. Picked up and started a new career, found a new guy, new apartment, etc.

    When you totally wipe out it is so great to be a mutable. I feel pretty fortunate about my chart in that respect, I’ve seen lots of people go further down than me after a crisis. I never go lower, I always seem to crawl right back up and beyond πŸ™‚

  13. September 2010. Had to leave my residence of 10 years because of court ‘stuff’ that will be finally concluding this October when Uranus hit natal Pluto. I was almost out on the streets and had to act super fast. I have been living on bare bones since because of said situation. All is well. Nothing is going to stop me.

  14. Got those links up on my blog,Elsa. Thanks. Even though I take some hits for my glass half full style, i think there is a place for it on the web.It’s been fun to reconnect with lots of my prior readers, and my astro. clients have been waiting too!

  15. A lot of my friends were born with the Uranus Pluto conjunction in Virgo…..1963-1968. A whole whack of celebs have this too.

  16. Anybody born 1963 to 1969 has the natal conjunction..so a lot of my friends do. A whole whack of celebrities as well…like Sandra Bullock, Nic Cage, John Cusack, Diane Lane, Robert Downey Jr, Keanu Reeves, Jennifer Aniston, Brad Pitt, and on and on.

  17. Yeah Uranus semi-square Pluto. It happens a lot. I use to let it get me down and I use to be upset. But I realised I can’t hold on to things anymore and things have to change.

  18. My Pluto is sextile Neptune/jupiter. The month that Uranus went into a loose conjunction with my Uranus in my 4th house and Jupiter was then conjunct my Neptune(conjunct Pluto) my mother died after battling cancer for 4 long years. It was very sudden, over night type of thing. One night she was in the hospital the next morning she was gone.

  19. I love the word “whack” being used for this aspect. Mine are both 9th house 24 degrees apart with pluto on 10th. As long as I didn’t ignore transits to uranus when it hit pluto I wasn’t completely devastated. I’m working this backwards now. Gathering strength from the pomegranate seeds. I could only survive so many surprise attacks (uranus mars sesqui) before realizing I have the strength to survive.

  20. I think us born in the sixties are used to loss. Recently I lost my work and my mother. A few times IΒ΄ve been close to losing my life. But when you lose Big – you do feel alive..
    You are not Lost in translation..

  21. Yes. The fixed cross in August 11 1999.
    My soul was decimated, my reality smashed.New horrible realities were presented.
    My physical began to degenerate, my mind had nothing to grab, my emotions were skipping around loose and hysterical.
    A living nightmare.
    Pluto conjunct Black Lilith in Leo ninth house exactly square ascendent, Uranus conjunct Moon eighth house, exactly 30 degrees from Pluto trining the ascendent.

  22. I have Uranus and Pluto semi-square. Pluto being in the 5th, and Uranus in the 6th.
    This article is helping me deal, right now, with my life, which is crumbling apart (yet again).
    Uranus is squaring my neptune, which is being aspected by transiting pluto, and pluto is opposing mars right now.
    The phoenix from the ashes basically describes my entire life. Everything gets dismantled or destroyed, and I have to start again from scratch.
    This past year, pluto moved off of my neptune, and I was allowed to get comfortable. I had the illusion that maybe this constant push and pull was over. Now that the veil has dropped, and I’m faced, once again with a crumbling life, I’m strangely uneasy.
    If there’s one thing that having this life has taught me… it’s to quit having expectations. They’re a barrier to everything.

  23. We just recently had a fire at our house. We didn’t lose everything, but probably 2/3 of our stuff is gone, plus we’re displaced for at least 6 months in a rental home without any of our stuff, waiting for all the repairs.

    When this happened, I realized this type of situation has happened to me at least 3 times before, where I’m living in a temporary situation without any of my personal belongings for long periods of time.

    I have no idea what makes me prone to this, probably Uranus on my descendent involved in a t-square with Jupiter, chiron, Saturn, and my sun. Transiting saturn is hanging around that exact spot right now.

    The funny thing is that this hasn’t effected me nearly as harshly as my husband and because I’ve been through it before, I’m able to help us all through this time. I’d prefer this kind of stuff didn’t happen, but I’m used to it kind of, so at least I can be of some service at times like this.

  24. I’ve had several almost total wipeouts but always managed to hang on to or to retrieve some of my stuff – which is mega-important to my Taurus Moon and H2 Jupiter Chiron.

    I came back from the island having let my flat with all my belongings in it to my best friends, who gave up the lease just before I returned, arghh. I’ll never know what they were thinking, and neither now do they… They packed up my stuff but I lost most of it anyway… No work, no home, no money… it was tough!

    I had a worse experience when my marriage broke up, interestingly with very similar transits to your husband’s Elsa. t-Pluto was squaring my Pluto in Leo, and Neptune was conjunct my Merc/Ceres in Cap, squaring my Chiron, and Mars conjunct my Cap Sun/Venus, opposing my Saturn and setting off my entire set of t-squares …

    Meanwhile t-Saturn was conjuncting my IC! I had to move back to England, and leave a great deal behind… dead marriage, trashed dreams, lost pets and farm, no money. It was pretty devastating.

    I had another wipe out 16 years ago when I left London and moved to the country but I managed to keep my stuff that time… Not much else though: no career, no proper home, no lover – and not many friends survived that one either.

  25. Yes, this has happened to me on 3 or 4 occasions in my life. It’s always been frustrating to see that I am one of the few that has this recurrent nightmare occur to them. I’ve been saying though for years, that I am the canary in the coal mine, and that even though I am the first to succumb, that’s because I will be the one to be able to help others when it is their turn. Glad to know that you are of the same mind.

  26. I’m one of the Virgo Uranus-Pluto conjunction tribe. In college I used to jokingly refer to my age group as the ‘cursed generation’ long before I knew anything about astrology. I no longer think of us as cursed, but most everyone I know born with the Uranus-Pluto conjunction has been wiped out at least once, some of them have risen again and some have stayed down for the count.

  27. Me too! Virgo Uranus-Pluto generation. The low point was when T. Pluto went through Sag squaring that conjuntion. Ugh.
    Looking for an upside for our group we will experience Pluto trine Pluto (but then Uranus will still square it). Dang

  28. “Have you ever suffered a total wipeout?”

    But of course!

    “Is there a Uranus Pluto exchange in your chart?”

    Not really, but transiting Pluto is on my Cap ASC and Uranus in Aries on my natal Chiron; it’s been a real bitch.

    Interesting how many people mentioned the transits of 1999 and 2010 – those are the dates of two of my total wipeouts!

    PS @Elsa “Someone who has lived and insulated life and not had to deal with nor witness this level of trauma” < Jealous!

  29. 2010 was a good year for me, had my baby and met many new friends. 2011 and 2012 can bite me πŸ™
    I have Uranus opposite Pluto right now until 2013. But Jupiter trine Jupiter might temper it which starts end of July.

  30. I am also of the Uranus/Pluto tribe. I’ve lost everything many times; Fire, Death, Illness, Job Loss, Insanity (not mine, my sibling’s) and violence. I agree with the poster above said it’s best not to have definitive expectations because they probably won’t manifest in the way we hope. It’s best to live day to day and learn to roll with the punches. I also agree with another poster who said that felt a sense of unease. I feel that as well.

  31. IC sandwiched between Pluto and Uranus. This thread has reminded me of a time when my partner of 9yrs disappeared, I got mugged and beaten up, I lost my job and car got wrote off.

    Pluto was conjunc Neptune, Uranus and Neptune on the DC. That time in 1995 I had my mum and same friend helping me through. Same as now.

    • @ico – That’s definitely a possibility. It’s simply going to be harsh, one way or the other. I don’t think this is some big prediction. It’s obvious from the data that is widely available.

  32. In the early 90’s, tr. Pluto was square to natal Uranus 10th, and was conjunct natal 1st house Venus in Scorpio. Transiting Uranus was conjunct natal Sun/Saturn. I lost my job, almost died completely unexpected-contracted viral encephalitis, went into a coma, etc. Lost faith in some of the closest people to me at that time, and, well, I lost my balance, as well.

    It sounds strange to say, but I think I made the mistake of trying to recover too quickly, by throwing myself into work to try to survive financially. I had offers of help that I refused at the time, and looking back on it, well, interesting…

  33. To me, it seems like constant nails on a chalkboard type of irritability. Well, Mercury is retroing on my Uranus, too, right now. Jumpy.

  34. My mother is a Virgo from the late 60’s generation, and she has the conjunction. Her family’s house burned down when there was a short circuit at a neighbor’s house, and she moved out to avoid living in further poverty in her late teens. She’s the oldest of 8, so she shouldered a lot of responsibility.

    She sold her car and bought and rented out a house, but didn’t see the profits until just a few years ago.. Then she had me at 23, as a single mom. She worked really hard, and would even take me to her job with her, until I was about 2, old enough for my dad’s mom to babysit. My dad was in the picture, but for whatever reason he rarely offered to pick me up in the mornings to take me to his mom’s house (5 minute car ride). My mom and I would take the bus, early in the morning, and then walk a few blocks to her house. Then she had to take another 2-hour bus ride to work. I love my grandma, but I cried every morning after my mom left for work, and I waited by the door in the afternoons when it was time for her to pick me up. I was so happy when she got married and we moved and started a new life. Everything changed for the better, but there were times when she had nothing.

  35. Poor guy was driving down the road, last night, Tuesday. A giant tree fell on him and crushed him. I would say that is a wipe out. It is worth looking at the picture. This really happened in DC.

    Kat

  36. they just keep on rolling in. i’ve seen so much already.
    getting a closer eyeful of the inherent randomness of suffering, sometimes. seeing a lot of people trying to find meaning and only end up blaming themselves. or Deity. or something. i guess that’s easier than facing Murphy’s Law… recognizing how little control anyone really has?

    i dunno. i’m just grateful for what i have.

  37. I am n a T square with transiting Uranus Square Pluto, i.e. a Uranus Square with Opposing Pluto. All I can say is that I am deliberately losing a number of toxic friends because I cannot tolerate what it does to me. I am exhausted and burnt out, so I am just reading and settling in with myself and my divine instead of making myself vulnerable by taking in a lot of social energy. I am slashing social obligations and resting. I have been through so much already, and lived through a spiritual rape earlier in the year but could not tell anyone because it was like a curse, talking about it made it worse. I know I will be OK but it does feel very vulnerable this major change.

  38. I am in a T square with transiting Uranus Square Pluto, i.e. a Uranus Square with Opposing Pluto. All I can say is that I am deliberately losing a number of toxic friends because I cannot tolerate giving all my energy away to them. I am exhausted and burnt out, so I am just reading and settling in with myself and my divine instead of making myself vulnerable by taking in a lot of social energy. I am slashing social obligations and resting. I have been through so much already, and lived through a spiritual rape earlier in the year but could not tell anyone because it was like a curse, talking about it made it worse. I know I will be OK but it does feel very vulnerable this major change. I would really like some support, because it is tough to be alone through this. But I do have 2 cats, and am a very loving, intuitive and creative person so it will all get processed with good intention.

  39. Wow, Mike, I hadnt read about the noviles, but someone told I should, since I have many of them. And the closest one in orb is Uranus and Pluto.

    I was in same situations as you, in 25 years, I lived in 7 different cities, 25 different apts/houses/weird places with my family. We almost never had a normal house. Always with lots of money, a new car, traveling to some posh place some months and without anything the rest of year, only eating crackers for dinner and breakfast(I kinda hate crackers now as an adult lol). Once I was studying, we were evicted from a rented place and had nowhere to go, some rich acquaintance of my dad offered a very posh, hard to reach without a car, mansion for us to live, but I remember it had nothing inside and we had nothing to put inside, was so crazy. We could enjoy a jacuzzi but had no couch, no decoration, no curtain, so ironical. I had to walk around 7 km, after taking 2 buses, to get there and there was no pavement for pedestrians. lol

    I don’t have any toy or thing from kid except from other relatives that kept them and gave to me later in life. So weird. But I kinda tried to get away from that lifestyle of my family. Did you too?

  40. Wow, Mike, I hadnt read about the noviles, but someone told I should, since I have many of them. And the closest one in orb is Uranus and Pluto.

    I was in same situations as you, in 25 years, I lived in 7 different cities, 25 different apts/houses/weird places with my family. We almost never had a normal house. Always with lots of money, a new car, traveling to some posh place some months and without anything the rest of year, only eating crackers for dinner and breakfast(I kinda hate crackers now as an adult lol). Once I was studying, we were evicted from a rented place and had nowhere to go, some rich acquaintance of my dad offered a very posh, hard to reach without a car, mansion for us to live, but I remember it had nothing inside and we had nothing to put inside, was so crazy. We could enjoy a jacuzzi but had no couch, no decoration, no curtain, so ironical. I had to walk around 7 km, after taking 2 buses, to get there and there was no pavement for pedestrians. lol

    I don’t have any toy or thing from kid except from other relatives that kept them and gave to me later in life. So weird. But I kinda tried to get away from that lifestyle of my family. Did you too?

  41. This Is so depressing reading these posts..yes we all have challenges and trials..yes they feel terrible at times..this however rehashing depressing moments…the aspect scares me too..I’ve waded through my shar of s$)t…….some times we have to bow our head, say a prayer, and weather the storm……

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