Jennifer wrote:
“I am about as NON-soldier-military a person as you can get*, but come on, it’s not like y’all still haven’t seen interesting insights that were based on him/his experiences/chart, etc…”
Well, the word triggers people, I can tell you that. They have an emotional response to the word, “soldier” when they see it.
In short the word is threatening to many. It has a negative connotation and it creates a sub or semi-conscious impulse to block or defend.
It’s not always been this way of course. A soldier at various times in history would be considered HOT or a HERO but we are not in those times at the moment so this other phenomena occurs.
The astrology? Well it’s the repression of Mars of course. Defending against a word and/or being able (or unable) to read and think with any discernment is all Saturn in Virgo stuff.
Jennifer, you’re right about learning from him. He doesn’t know very much about women but you’d be hard pressed to find someone who knows more about men and my friends and clients benefit greatly from having access to his read on things when it comes to the men in their lives because they don’t trick him one inch.
On top of that, he’s got uncommon knowledge courtesy his extreme life experience and a high IQ. I am in similar circumstance and when you put us together we pretty much go you covered but if you want to disrespect us, go right ahead.
You quit us and we’ll quit you and see who winds up regretful. 😉
On that note… here’s Bob Dylan with one of my favorite songs when I was kid (and a freakishly good version / graphics)
Most Likely You Go Your Way (And I’ll Go Mine)
“…You say ya got some
Other kinda lover
And yes, I believe you do.
You say my kisses are not like his,
But this time I’m not gonna tell you why that is.
I’m just gonna let you pass,
Yes, and I’ll go last.
Then time will tell who fell
And who’s been left behind,
When you go your way and I go mine.”
graphic by wordle
I notice this alot too. I have always loved the idea of the ‘soldier’ as my father and grandfather were in the armed forces so it is kind of hardwired in me as an ideal man. I do get that kind of reaction when people see me reading biographies of generals, SAS (special forces) are a favourite too – am fascinated by those ‘extreme life experiences.’ They start on the whole ‘trained killer’ thing. It is an unfashionable concept at the moment but war is a pretty odd concept and while it is around there is a need for soldiers. I wonder if part of this reaction now is because there is an idea that there has not been a just or moral war since World War II.
What a freakin’ great Dylan lyric.
Heh. Well, there you go, then. It’s always good to have an expert on men around for those of us who sit here going, “Huh?!”
Well you know that drop of whatever that you can put in a pail of contaminated water and have it clear? He’s got that drop.
Really, women have a hard time fathoming men and I have come to understand we are frequently so far off the mark it would be comical if it were not so horrifying. ;-):-)
i guess it helps being related to some very wise, gentle veterans.
but they’re all old.
none of my generation in my family signed up.
though i’ve got the feeling the kiddo likely will.
You know what I think of when I hear the word ‘soldier’? That song the Dixie Chicks covered, ‘Travelling Soldier’.
My grandfather was an intelligence officer in WW2. He was stationed in the Orient, and rarely talks about it. I know he nearly died, and that he has a medal, but I don’t pry.
The way I see it, there are some dirty, nasty jobs that need to be done in this world. I’m not about to sign up to go do them, but that doesn’t mean I get to disrespect the people who do.
It’s one of those special kinds of crazy… Like being a fireman or a cop. I have a cousin who was a fireman until he had one injury too many… (Seriously, it’s a special kind of crazy to be the one running INTO the burning building.)
Seekingzen:
I’m a firefight and don’t see anything out of ordinary about it. I dunno, it’s just a job like any other, but it’s got no emotional attachments for me. And I’m a PISCES, even.
Actually, I am glad we are surging into Afghanastan and I am totally pro-military for those who feel called to serve. I am against any draft, but if people feel called to serve in the military, that is what they should do. We should support that and I think that most of us know that the people in the military are not responsible for the decisions made by our Commander In Chief.
It makes sense that we are surging into Afg, and thank God for that. I am not anti-self-defense, in fact, whatever it takes is whatever it takes to defend my country, the US. All I ask is that (a) it makes some kind of sense as to where we are going to war; that is not too much to ask. And (b) to not be lied to about why we are going to war.
Luci, that’s exactly it. The people who do these world’s most dangerous jobs see nothing out of the ordinary about it, but there IS! And in a good kind of way, even! I’ve heard all kinds of stories from my coz… Buildings collapsing around him, getting flung about by explosions, using the ‘jaws of life’ to pry people out of cars… And he just kinda shrugs. “Eh, that’s the job,” he says.