The Fourth House – Your Base

The 4th house in your chart reveals your base.   For example if Saturn rules your 4th or if Saturn in placed in your 4th house, I would consider you to be fear-based. 

If Jupiter ruled your 4th or was placed there, I would think of you as faith-based, etc.

The 10th house is public, the 4th house is not.  Whatever is described by your 10th house is there to be seen by the public.

In contrast only you and your intimates are likely to be aware of the qualities described by your 4th house. You do have to consider the entire chart as there are exceptions to this and I can serve as an example.

Mars rules my 4th house. At my core, I am driven, angry, ambitious, heroic, etc.   Mars in my chart is in the 9th house, conjunct Mercury so I broadcast these qualities.  I flat our state that if you break into my house (4th), I will shoot you (Mars).

I also live with a retired Green Beret!  How’s that for Mars ruling my 4th?

How does your 4th house describe you?



The Fourth House – Your Base — 99 Comments

  1. Very cool. I am loving the beginner posts.

    I have only Neptune in my fourth house (in Sag). Ruled by Venus (Libra not Taurus). I don’t know what that means exactly but I’m here to learn!

  2. I’ve got a busy 4th house. It’s ruled by Uranus (Aquarius)… Chiron, Mars, and Jupiter reside there.

    I’ve been extremely lucky (Jupiter) to have had the opportunity to move (Mars) and live (4th House) in some awesome places. A few of those moves where on impulse (Uranus). One of those impulsive moves resulted in a very long series of unforeseen consequences that broke my heart (Chiron) and was the saddest time of my life.

    I think it’s interesting that Uranus is in my 10th opposite Jupiter- there’s something significant I feel there, but am not quite sure what it is.

  3. My 4th h is ruled by Taurus and contains no planets. I certainly like my home to be comfortable, to contain good food, and it has to be tranquil!
    The ruler of my 4th h, is in Cancer, on the cusp of the 6/7 houses. I am not certain how that can be interpreted. – I know I like my work environment to be comfortable also – I like to feel at home there—

  4. My fourth house is empty, it is ruled by Gemini. I find that when I am sick and in bed, yanno bad flu day. I don’t need you talking to me, but I like the sound of talking in the house. It is comforting and soothing to hear pleasant conversations between loved ones. I have a cappy moon so I need to feel secure by the presence of pleasant conversations in my home.

  5. what if your cusp is jupiter (sag) and saturn is in cap in the 4th? are you fear and faith at once? can you give an example?

    like “I’m afraid to do this but I can leap and it might work out”

  6. This is most interesting … I find that depending upon where I live the houses change, according to some locational astrology methodologies. And the house that gets the most attention is always the 4H. But as it’s been stressed to me no one is ever their chart, and one can choose to transcend.

  7. Neptune rules my 4th House. Mars, Venus, South Node are there. At my core I am dreamy, loving, passionate, and deeply tied to my ancestral and familial past.

    (4th House ruler resides in my 12th).

  8. Interesting. So, 4th House is where my Libra Sun lives, but (using equal houses) the 4th H is also home to my Virgo Pluto and Uranus.
    Would I consider my 4H to be Mercury or Venus ruled? ie How is House Ruler precedence determined with EqH? Does the Sun sign lead the way, or ??

  9. @hrae just taking a guess at this one. Maybe home schooled. You learn more from home, then out in the world. The lessons hit home. Everything I ever learned I learned at home. Solid educational base. Maybe like the author of, “Everything I ever needed to learn, I learned in kindergarten”

  10. Awesome post! A house that is not discussed too much, perhaps due the reasons you stated above 🙂 I have Neptune in Cap on my IC, so I am both fear based and faith based I suppose! It ebbs and flows…

  11. I dunno. But I’m glad that you are addressing this. Mine is in Gemini. So Merc ruled but Saturn is in there so I’m looking at that “fear based” statement and rolling it around a bit. My Merc is in Scorpio in the 9th so I broadcast my gemini saturn lessons to the world too. Mars, Sun and Uranus trine that Saturn..I’ll shoot you too.

    In relation to what the self knows and what the public knows..there is no one that knows the secret investigative life that spawns from that base of closely studying (Saturn) varied topics (Gemini) to both deliver to the world (9th house)and use in my own personal deconstruction and following reconstruction (8th house sun, mars, urnaus). Nobody.

  12. I have the moon in Leo conjunct the nadir. I love my home and there is no place where I feel most comfortable. If I’m not careful I can become too reclusive I have to make an effort to get out and be social.

    Buying a home was a big deal to me for many reasons, I felt like buying this home was getting the home I never had growing up.

  13. Well, on a practical level 4th Aries/Mars in 6th Gemini. I work from home, I work on my home, I’m always doing SOMETHING around my house. Home is not necessarily a relaxing place, I always see things to do here.

  14. What’s more important the planets in house or the ruler of the house?

    My 4th house says, “If you mess with my pleasure den I will end you with creme brulee.”

    Venus and Pluto.

  15. I have my Scorpio pluto in my Libra 4th house, so Venus-ruled. And venus conjunct mars in the 7th. I love my home to be comfortable and beautiful, and I want to build it with someone.

  16. How does your 4th house describe you? My 4th and 10th houses are the only houses in my chart that don’t share a sign. My 4th house is ruled by Gemini being as Mercury is Gemini’s planet then the house would be ruled by Mercury. Other than that the house its self is totally empty and it is a small house not a full 30 degrees and Gemini shares on either side of my 4th house. Pretty much my home is open to any of the children, and my siblings. I don’t handle cramped little houses well at all. I need a huge house to feel right with open airy rooms.

    Higher education and childhood environment. Communication. Happiness. Intelligence. Achievements. Siblings. local travel and transportations. Added to Ancestry, heritage, roots. Early foundation and environment. Mother or mothers as figure. The caretaker of the household. Cyclic end of matters.

    That pretty much describes me to a tee. Guess you could say I am somewhat driven.

  17. Depending on house system, the IC/MC marks the cusp of 4th/10th houses.

    I have Saturn in Virgo, the same degree as my IC. I would call that fear-of-failure based.
    I also have Pluto in my 4th, in Libra, where its in nearly exact opposition to my Moon in Aries/10th house.
    So the ruler of my 4th house is Mercury?
    I have Mercury in Scorpio/5th house, closely conjunct Uranus and inconjunct my Moon. (I think it’s fun to find out what makes people tick, even if it irritates/disturbs them? But people think I’m just crazy/stalker?)
    Pluto rules Scorpio, which puts attention back on my 5th house.

    Okay, so with Moon in Aries/10th, the ruler of my 10th house is Mars?
    Mars is in Virgo/3rd in close conj with NN and a few degrees from Jupiter.
    I have mood swings/temper tantrums. I can communicate well in writing when I don’t feel like I have to hold back but I may alienate and anger people? I have trouble communicating what’s bothering me cuz I don’t feel I can be open with people? At home, in private, I feel the desperation and unhappiness of their unrealized dreams/potentials, what they could have had, and how life actually turned out… and I become a moody bitch and I speak mostly in grunts cuz I don’t wanna talk to you about anything cuz I hate you and I hate it here with you. (Not YOU readers) My mom and I are starting to cut the cord. I think a lot of her unspoken attitudes and beliefs (and lack of) really messed me up in being able to relate to other people, especially men, especially about sex.

    Now, Saturn would rule whatever house I have Capricorn in, right? Capricorn marks my 7th house. I have Venus ~2 degrees Cap. In a Placidus chart, my Venus is in the middle of my 6th house, but using whole sign houses, it puts it in my 7th. This is a relatively new finding for me. I think both placements have validity, but I don’t feel like I have Venus in the 7th because I have little experience with relationships, esp romantic/sexual. Or I find someone I think I could have a relationship with, but I hit some kind of obstacle. Like one guy got deported. But maybe that’s Capricorn/Saturn restriction.

    The 10th house is a Capricorn theme, so does it go back to my Venus? Which is trine my Mars?

    I don’t know, I don’t want to admit this, but I would say I’m very fear/anger based. Especially the last couple/few years as Pluto went into Cap and violated my Venus. I feel pissed that he didn’t ask permission first, and acted like I was the one with the problem when he hurt me. So, yes, the darker parts of me want to terrorize/violate him right back so he knows what it feels like. I know it’s petty, but it doesn’t mean I don’t feel love for him… I just want him to admit that he wronged me.

    Basically this sums it up for me

  18. The ruler of my 4th is the sun, which, is located in the 4thm along with Mercury, Venus, and Mars. I’m very me-based. 😛 But really, my unwavering commitment to myself is my primary form of strength.

  19. I’ve heard that Neptune in the 4th house can mean an absent Father. I too have Sag in the 4th house with Neptune and my Father passed away at 53 years old. He was a Pisces (Neptune). My North Node also is there.

  20. I have my Aries south node there, and Chiron in Taurus as well (if using Placidus system). Guess you could say it’s my Batcave. I almost never have people over cause I’m a nervous Nelly as a hostess. And there’s really nowhere for people to sit. No couch.

  21. Also, Neptune is my 4th house ruler. My birth father disappeared from my life for many years. And my family moved around a lot, so I learned not to get too attached to a place. Until recently I had a hard time letting myself put pictures on the walls, curtains, etc. I was afraid to create a home only to uproot and move again.

    Another thing: I don’t like opening the curtains or blinds. I have a thing about this but am overcoming it. I like to daydream or dance, and don’t want the neighbors seeing it.

  22. Pisces IC conjunct Chiron– w/Neptune in the 12th. I never realized how much this described my core until transiting Neptune/chiron came within orb of conjunction of natal chiron/IC…like being sucked into my 12th house.

  23. My Jupiter-ruled (Sagg.) 4th house is empty. I don’t know my mother’s astro sign, but she abandoned me when I was 5 years old. I think that’s how that placement may have manifested in my life. ::shrugs::

  24. My 4th House is 3/5 in Sag and 2/5 in Cap… But my chart ruler Mercury is in that Cap section.

    Mercury issues definitely rule my life and always have – my handicap is a Mercury issue. Only people close to me know the ‘whole’, that’s for sure (and very few of them understand it).

    My working life / career has been largely Mercury related too. In addition I have a Mercury/Ceres exact conjunction, and I feel I’ve really been using that since joining these boards – like exercising a muscle I barely knew I had!

  25. ruled by capricorn, with saturn and jupiter placed there..jupiter at 0 aquarius to add quirky to the equation

    i have faith but make plans in case…

  26. I’ve got nada in my 4th house, though it’s ruled by Sag, but Jup’s over in the 5th, along with Saturn, with the two just a little over 4 degrees apart. Maybe that explains the proliferation of Sag bfs despite my stellium Virgo (Sun, Pluto, Mercury) self!

  27. Aries rules my fourth House & my Moon is in there!

    @blue_rose…I have the opposite thing to you… I hate having to CLOSE curtains etc & I very rarely do. At night, I hardly ever have lights on inside… just candles. I don’t want the neighbours peeking in either, so I have lights OUTSIDE the house. Switch em on… I can see you, but you can’t see me! =)

  28. IC Taurus, with Chiron in Gemini in the 4h. (recently posted I had 8h Chiron – Woops meant 8 deg Gemini Chiron 😛

    Ever since I was little I was a little obsessive about having my environment just so. Mind you, I grew up in below- poverty circumstances and with a fair amount of difficulty (disabled & emotionally abusive mom). My room was my sanctuary from a tough world.

    4h ruler Venus is in the 8th. I have had a number of moves to new cities in my adult life (and too many to count as a kid). Each move has been followed by a true and actual grieving process akin to losing a loved one. I’m talking the kind of depression where it’s hard to stand up.

    I now own a home that I really like with a really great partner. Losing it all somehow is at the back of my mind. I have pretty much come to terms with this kind of loss.

  29. Errr. 4h Ruler Venus is in the 9th in Scorp. Gemini takes up most of the (small) 4h and is the home of Chiron. Mercury is conjunct Sun in 8h.

  30. Cool!

    @hrae If your cusp is Jupiter and Saturn is in your 4th, you will be fear and faith based. Your example is one way it could manifest. It could also be that you have faith yet suddenly you’re hit by a fear because you star to doubt (Saturn) your faith (Jupiter).

    “Mars rules my 4th house so at my core, I am driven, angry, ambitious, heroic, etc.”

    I can relate and have Moon-Mars-Mercury. Explains why I feel (Moon) so Mars-y and why I have a hero (Mars) theme fighting bad guys (8th) in my dreams (Moon). Mars is in the 8th, so it’s expressed in a more coiled, smolder-y manner, but it is also in Leo so when it blows, it is on display.

  31. Taurus is on the cusp of my empty fourth house, with venus in the fifth. I’m not especially houseproud (ahem it’s a bit of a tip), but I do love to curl up in comfort be it in bed or on a sofa, and I hate being away from home and the people I love.

    I also love children – can’t wait to have them filling my house! And I often decorate the house with things I’ve made myself like painted plates and ‘art works’.

  32. Gemini IC I have two homes, one being a vacation trailer, which is fully equipped as a home from home. I need to be able to move around, or I can’t breathe. Mercury in 1st in Pisces, I think I’m invisible, and kinda like that, but I communicate a lot through writing.

  33. We moved a lot, usually it was sudden. My parents remarried before we went back home, when we were here on vacation, and we were moved over here about five weeks later. that’s just one example.

  34. Hi Elsa,

    Thank you for raising this topic and inspiring insights into oneself.

    I have Jupiter in late Scorpio and at the early degrees of my fourth house. I notice that I can only yell in our house but not in other places.

  35. libra is on the cusp of my 4th house, so I am guessing venus ruled. But I have jupiter, neptune and the north node in Scorpio in my 4th house. So maybe I have a lot pluto in my 4th house. Venus is in aquarius in my 7th house, Pluto is in virgo in my 2nd house.

  36. Okay so textbooks say Venus in 4th is supposedly good for home stuff, means you had a happy childhood blah blah you must like gardening, your house must be really pretty and cosy etc. Whilst this textbook interpretation might be true for some, it doesn’t seem to work too well when Saturn is involved.

    Capricorn on the cusp, Cap Venus in 4th, and my childhood was very emotionally cold (emotionally absent to be more precise) mixed with sudden outbursts of aggression (Aqua Mars in 4th). All of my adult homes have been tiny, old, rugged and I don’t like to spend on furniture or decorating, I’d rather buy used stuff. I suppose my homes might have been cosy though, in a weird, Soviet-y (for want of a better term) way 🙂

    Cap on the 4th cusp when using equal, and Aqua IC when using Placidus. Interestingly, I have had several unexpected and sudden moves. When I was under 18 I had to move altogether 15 times due to changing families/institutions, and now as an adult I’ve had to move suddenly and unexpectedly several times because of electric failure, water damage etc. Or is this just Aqua Mars then, who knows.

  37. Oh, and Elsa, your American gun-toting pride is very strange to me. I live in Canada and mercury rules my 4th house so I guess I would just talk to the intruder, haha.

  38. “I live in Canada and mercury rules my 4th house so I guess I would just talk to the intruder, haha.”

    You can do that here too, merle. 🙂

  39. Forgot to mention that my 4th house ruler, Neptune, sits in my 12th. Would this combo give someone a romanticized view of God? Also, could it give the person a sixth sense around their family? I’ve noticed that when I visit my birth dad’s relatives in person, I can pick up this skeezy vibe. It’s creepy.

  40. I also have Neptune as 4th house ruler and it’s in the 12th, in a T-square involving Moon and Saturn. I am the family karma healer.

  41. There aren’t any planets in my 4th house. I have no base!


    Just kidding. My Saturn is late enough in the 3rd house, right next to Capricorn, to make me an inveterate worrier. On the other hand, I have Mercury in the 10th house. 🙂

  42. I have an empty Pisces 4th with Neptune on the 12th house cusp. I feel most comfortable, centered and “myself” in seclusion. If anyone broke in I’m sure they’d be bored to death (or be inclined to meditate). I have a great need to open all my curtains and windows when I’m home, yet I feel on display if neighbors are out and I get vey grumpy if I have to close the curtains or listen to their music, dog barking or if they park their cars facing my house. I know it sounds nuts. Both my neighbors across the street and to the north (unbeknownst to them, I’m sure) send me balistic when they park facing my house! When I first noticed my reactions to this, I was really alarmed. Now I just go in another room or close the curtains until they leave.

    You know what? I never connected these reactions with the Pisces IC until now! Thanks!

  43. Fourth house empty-taurus ruled by Venus. Still new to astrology so not surei have that right. Interesting since Venus is known or secrets. My emotional life is known by few! I have Venus in Virgo, 8th house.

  44. Using equal houses from the Ascendant… that would put my 4th house as being Pluto-ruled (Pluto is in the second house). In that system I have the Sun, Mercury, Mars, Jupiter, Neptune all in the 4th. Sun/Mars and Mercury/Jupiter are conjunct.

    I don’t even know where to begin with that, haha.

  45. hmmmm..

    saturn smack in the middle of cancer in the 4th, square pluto.
    yes, fear-based, but lots of work in the house- literally housework- and maybe even home-based business.
    a real need to control my home environment.
    also, since moon rules my fourth and i’ve got saturn there, wonder if that sets me up to have some moon/saturn deals. sure feels like it sometimes.
    but i will say, since i have no earth by sign or house, it is the closest thing i have to a “groundhold”. saturn has taught me a lot here.

  46. Libra rules my 4th, and I’m totally love and relationship based. My ic is conjunct juno and my relationships are very important starting points/bases to me. Depending on house system, I’ve got uranus in there as well and I like to do things in my own way as far as my base is concerned.

  47. Still learning here so late jumping in on this one. Ok, 3 planets (Pluto, Mars, Uranus) in 4th house in Virgo (4/5 in Virgo, 1/5 in Libra). I looked up “what planet rules Virgo” and it said Mercury.

    Somewhere else I read this – “learn to accept others for who they are and not who you think they should be” – which has been a lifetime lesson for me. Think i’ve got it nearly licked …at least I hope so.

    With Gemini Asc and Venus in Libra, I too would talk to an intruder to try to reason probably. Unless the fear response was strong enough and then I’d be more likely to run or hit them with a baseball bat. ??? lol

    About my home, i’m never NOT worrying about it. Even when all is ok, still worry at times. Drives me nuts but know I’ll probably always be this way. Bummer.

  48. CLD, I have the opposite from you, Pisces on the 4th, and I worry constantly about my home too. Always checking to make sure everything is locked/turned off. And worried about being broken into when I’m not home. This has happened to me, and they stole 30 years worth of research. I am still devastated by it (Pisces=loss?)

  49. Anita {{Hug}} it’s hell right? Always on edge sometimes. I’ve had break-in too. Devastating. But over it. I worry more about state of the home in terms of repairs or things that might break or go wrong with structure.

  50. CLD, it is hellish! If I have to be gone all day, I’ve asked friends to stop by and I’ve even driven by myself to check.

    Yes, I’ve worried about repairs. If we are unaware of an issue with the building, it can get way too expensive to repair. And electrical issues are dangerous and difficult to diagnose.

    Oh, my…listen to us! lol…

  51. Anita, I think the only reason I’m ok and not concerned about break-ins anymore is because i’ve lost many loved ones to death. After that, material stuff doesn’t matter to me. Apart from photo albums and who would want to steal that?? 🙂

    You sound like me a lot. lol My Dad was a Virgo sun AND anal about electrical safety etc. That is one thing I am constantly worried about. He is passed now but still I hear him in my head about the house. Constant worry. It’s a bugger. 🙂

  52. ((CLD)) Sorry about your loss. That loss is never forgotten.

    Sun Virgo dad here, too! He’s probably watching out for you!

  53. HaHa Elsa soulmates!…Mercury rules my 4th house, and Mercury is conjunct an exalted Mars in my 8th house. I have stated many times that breaking into my house or messing with my family can get you killed….

  54. My 4H cusp is 28 degrees Taurus with also a large chunk of Gemini. My natal Mars is 1 degree Gemini. I have actively made (Mars) my home my version of beautiful (Venus). My home office is one of my favorite rooms in my house as I am a perpetual learner (Gemini; Jupiter and Neptune in 9H). My mother (4H) was also an elementary school teacher (Gemini rules primary education).

  55. It also occurred to me with my Aries ruled Mars placed in my 4H that I am very territorial (Aries warrior) when it comes to sharing my home with others. Aries is trapped in my intercepted 2H and I allow only close/similar-values (2H) friends and family into my home. I don’t host open public events in my home.

  56. Sagittarius is on the cusp of my 4th house, which is occupied by Mercury and Chiron conjunct in Capricorn. Jupiter in Aries is in the 7th House. I never feel I will be living in any one place very long, and that I will move for love. For 17 years I was a military wife and we moved 6 times during that period. Before that, when I was single, I moved every year for a while and then rented the same apartment for 11 years. As a kid, I knew I’d leave my parent’s house the second I got a chance.

  57. Interesting to reread this post now. Using Equal House my 4th House is equally divided between Aries and Taurus: a fighting lover could easily describe my base. With Uranus transiting that 4th House the revolution is on!

  58. Hi Elsa
    I have Capricorn and Aquarius in my 4th house – but no planets. Would being driven by fear also apply to having cap in 4 house (the same as Saturn in 4th)?

    Also, I seem to end up with a lot of Aquarius people – could this be partly to do with Acq in 4th?


  59. I have Capricorn in my 4th house, with NN conjunct Chiron. My Saturn is in the 2nd house. My home and possessions give me a level of security that I’ve always worked hard to maintain. I’ve always been somewhat fear driven that I wouldn’t have enough to live when I got older, so I was a big saver and never lived above my means.

    I’ll never be rich, but I have enough to live comfortably now that I am old.

  60. I have Capricorn (no planets) in the 4th house – so I tend to automatically operate out of fear (and control). As I’ve gotten older, I have learned to rely on my faith but it is a conscious effort.

    And Yes, I’ve lived an ultra serious/responsible life especially about 4th house matters from working my ass off day and night to finding it hard to relax or have fun knowing there are always “things to do,” at home. Not an easy way to live. Since getting into Astrology, I’ve learned to allow myself to relax and save my energy for other areas of my life!
    On the flip side, Having Leo in my 10th, having fun while working was paramount.

    • I can definitely relate to being unable to relax because there are always “things to do” at home. I have a never ending to-do list in my head that nags me. Something always needs doing.

  61. I have Libra on the cusp of my 4th house, with Pluto in Scorpio there too. I’ve never had much insight into those placements, and I definitely never thought of myself as relationship-based! I didn’t think I had enough Libra to qualify. With Venus in Aries in my 10th house, and Cap Descendant, I always thought my Venus was somewhat hardened.

    But it’s true! I have always had a preoccupation with partnering. Finding my soulmate has always been my #1 priority. I couldn’t rest – I was a serial dater from age 18-28, until this was achieved.

    Pluto in Scorpio there is interesting too, because I found true love under the transit of Pluto conjunct my descendant. With a person who has transformed my life – actually given me new life. And has connections to my family.

    Thank you for giving me a better understanding of my 4th house.

  62. My 4th is ruled by Saturn, who is in my 10th (or 11th, depending on house system).
    This Saturn is conjuct my Sun, both opposite my Moon.
    To say that I am fear-based is a euphemism! I hate this.
    Also, I feel very restricted in my home, it’ a small space. (Hate that too, but have many things there.)
    I always say I have 300 sq meter soul living in a 38 sq meter space, but that’s being extremely pretentious…!!! (uh, Leo)

  63. I thought Saturn in 4th was mostly feeling unloved by the parents as a child. Can you elaborate on the “fear-based” thing, Elsa?

      • Oh Okay thanks )) no I understand the concept but I was asking how do we go from unloved child to fear based? Is that because the person grows up missing the protection of the parents? Lacking faith in the order of things? I am not denying your take on this, just trying to explain it, put it in context.

  64. Are Taurus risings really that rare? I always read the comments before commenting to see if anyone has something similar to my chart.

    My 4th house is ruled by the Sun, and my Virgo Sun is in it. Home is very important to me and feeling at peace in it is crucial. It’s not just the place where I sleep or rest. It’s everything to me. I’m more interested than average in my ancestry and family history.

    Having the Sun in the 4th makes so much sense to me so even if my Sun is @2’40 Virgo and my 5th house cusp starts @2’47 Virgo, I shouldn’t consider it as being in the 5th.

  65. Gem Sun in the 4th only. Saturn in the 10th. Family/home life is happy and satisfying because I can totally be myself and live by my rules with no compromises! Lots of nieces/nephews (no children of my own) visiting and I am often baby or pet sitting for others over the years. Many say my home is so comfortable they don’t want to leave and I DO love to entertain and serve up good grub! Card and board games and reading are favourite pastimes. I have a green thumb with houseplants.

  66. Sun ruled 4th House (Leo). BML is conjunct the IC, squaring Mars (Scorp) & Jupiter (Taurus). I’m actually quite comfortable with her representing my mother & am reminded of the Churchill line in “The Darkest Hour”,…”my mother was glamorous and perhaps too widely loved…” I believe she was slightly narcissistic, a little like Miss America at center stage waiting on her question. Even now, I am a little humbled at “saying” it out loud.

    Only other planet 14 points further along is Pluto. I am deeply Taurus, but do not expect things to work out as planned and rarely even decorate. I have an eye trained to blindness and a room waiting within in which to recede, already made up. Waiting for the other shoe to drop, I suspect.

  67. Oh, and my kind and true friend talked to his intruders last spring when he returned home from tending his cows. They emptied a gun into his gut and threw the bedroom rug over him to bleed out on the floor.

    I say, talk all you want, but you might want to take a couple of friends (to paraphrase Clint) – Smith and Wesson.

  68. My Aquarius 4th house contains my Sun conjunct Saturn. Both conjunct my IC.This all opposes my retrograde Mars conjunct my MC. Your assessment of “fear based” resonates with me. I’m such a beginner but study this part of my chart a lot. I feel like it’s very important if I could just put some understanding to it. Thank you for this post.

  69. Pisces IC Saturn, Chiron and Mercury. Opposing Pluto and Uranus in 10th. Life ain’t been no picnic. Mercury says I’ve had 2 fathers – dad and older brother, then dad and stepdad. I’m now back to dad and brother. I’ve moved more times than I can count. I’ve searched for security and tried really hard for success my whole life. It’s been very chequered. I’ve achieved a lot despite everything. But now my progressed Sun in Taurus is ready for Uranian change (Venus in Aquarius too). Maybe I’m becoming more Yoko Ono ?

  70. Saturn rules my 4th *and* I have Saturn in the 4th — I guess I’m doubly fear-based. Combine that with moon-pluto in 12th….

  71. Triple foundation- self-based, mind-based and love-based. I like having people over (just announce first). I will feed you well, nurture you and listen to your problems, that just comes naturally.

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