Saturn Transit Crushing The Moon In Scorpio

scorpio pendantYou can expect the period when Saturn transits conjunct your Moon to be difficult. It’s a really emotional low.  This was brought home to me when my friend, Ben had the transit. I had known him for fifteen years at that point and I had never seen him in such distress.

Thankfully this transit only comes around once every 30 years.  More than a decade has passed since that transit. Ben has never been down like that since.

The Moon is not well placed in Scorpio, it’s the sign of it’s fall.  I hate mentioning this, because I have such an affinity with people who have this placement. My husband has a Scorpio Moon. But in practice, I am seeing people will their Moon in Scorpio hit terribly hard.

At this point, the transit has been focused on the people with their Moon at the early degrees of the sign. If your Moon is at the mid-degrees of Scorpio, you’ve probably also gotten a taste of this.  Stuff with your home, your mother, your roots, your family.  If your Moon in in a late degree of the sign, this stuff is looming.

There will be some help over the next year, thanks to Jupiter in Cancer which will ease things some. If you are having this transit, look for the Jupiter figure that should ’round somewhere.

I am talking about a generous (Jupiter) woman (Cancer).  A teacher or teachings (Jupiter) that nurture (Cancer).
There is no way anyone will be able to take away your pain, or even minimize it. But there are people who can help prevent you from sinking into total despair. Look for them.

Is your Moon in Scorpio?  Early, mid or late degree? How are you feeling?

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Saturn Transit Crushing The Moon In Scorpio — 169 Comments

  1. 9 degree Scorpio Moon and 22 degree Aquarius Sun. There is a Pluto sextile also. I dumped a relationship with a man; I have known him and his family for 30 years, (but we were only dating a year), and went off with a Jupiter man. I’ve never done that sort of thing before, I feel like I tricked myself, it was a bad bad bad move, and I feel guilty guilty guilty. The original guy was very good to me, but had some issues that I didn’t want to face with him. The new guy is just insane. I know how to go through and deal with the more intense emotions, but I have no idea what to do with guilt. I sort of hate everyone right now, because I am so angry with my reckless actions. I don’t feel supported or connected to anyone. Hard for me to put a positive spin on it, though I have discovered a new art technique that accesses the subconscious, that is a good outlet. I also started meditating twice a day. Meditation and accepting the crappieness of it is the only thing that keeps me from imploding.

    • Thank you. Clarification, Moon in my 8th, and I just meant beware that there is a transiting Pluto Sextile also, not that I have the natal sextile. More info…. my Pisces mars is exactly trine my moon at 9 degrees on my ascendant (12th house side), might explain the art and compulsive sexual misconduct…. plus the anger directed inward in the victim role nonsense that I seem to like to do to myself when I am not paying attention. Argh.

    • Contemplating this further, I actually feel grateful that Saturn brought me down to reality. Sure I felt out of control at the time but now, with some perspective and three ridiculous situations in my rear view mirror, I am glad it gave me the back bone to get rid of relationships that weren’t supporting my purpose in life. Life isn’t about making yourself feel good, nor is astrology, it is about getting done what you need to get done. Thank you Pluto in assisting with the plumbing of the depths of my subconscious wiring and removing the junk placed there by wrong conclusion drawn at a more immature time of my life. And now! I am going to clean my closet, literally! of old clothes and sports gear that is just clogging my ability to stay open to possibility! Humbly victorious!

  2. Yes, through this most difficult transit over a 12 degree scorp. moon period, I too have found some real relief from doing a meditative practice 2 or 3 times a day. I also bumped into something called the “Healing Codes” that deals with a concept called cellular memory… seems to be something to it. I’ve done it for about 3 weeks before my meditations, and it, along with the meditation is making a significant positive impact at lowering the internal stress. These periods for Scop moons seem to be a form of healing crisis… not at all comfortable but probably needed.

  3. My moon is at five degrees scorpio. I’m actually doing ok. I think the fact that my chart is Saturn ruled has helped. In fact, I actually like the calmness it’s brought to my life. I needed it. My emotions are under control too which feels good. I don’t feel like I’m bursting at the seams with emotions like I have for most of my life.

    Not to say that I haven’t had bad days. I’ve been sleeping a lot. But I put that under the “taking care if myself” umbrella.

  4. I almost got the dreaded conjunction to my Moon this past spring, but Saturn retrograded when it was half a degree away…close but no banana. Saturn will finally conjunct my Moon Oct. 18, which happens to be a Lunar Eclipse with Sun approaching my critical-degree Jupiter in Libra. With Jupiter in my own Sun sign, I find the effects of Saturn to be somewhat modified, but I’m still dealing with health issues, weight issues, work issues (I’m a freelancer, which is always tough), and sleep issues. Although this week has been kind of a bust as far as my creativity goes, in general I’ve been plugging away and, as I like to say, keeping my grind to the nosestone. I want to use Saturn on my Scorpio Moon to trot out my willpower and stick with it.

  5. hi all! nice to find a tribe of people going through this with me 🙂
    I am 11degree Scorp moon (29 degree Scorp sun) and MAN am I feeling this transit. Saturn is exactly conjunct my moon as of Friday Oct 11th, and will be all week this week too.

    Saturn first hit my moon in Feb and retrograded at that degree (11) and now its the 2nd and final part. First pass in Feb i was alone and had been for 4 years, and did divine marriage to my inner beloved ceremony. I had kinda given up on relationship (at 47) and then in April an intense love affair began and is still on, although he really fell in love with me, he has been pulling back lately. I can totally relate to 1) feeling alone 2) feeling abandoned 3) feeling like I have to get serious and take care of my financial support system (which I have not done), back taxes, insurance etc. 4) feeling orphaned

    I have a strong spiritual path and do meditate often, but even so this transit is TOUGH. I have done a lot of home time, cocooning and feeling hurt by my guy pulling back, and feeling to ‘broke’ to go anywhere…and then doing subsequent healings on that. I have delved deep and found 2 different past lives. The first was literally being thrown out in to the cold wet london streets by my mother some time earlier in history ( ouch.. literally orphaned), and the 2nd was just today, and the past life was:a teenage boy in Egyptian times doing esoteric exercises to go in between worlds and making a mistake and not asking for guidance, doing it on his own, and getting stuck in a dark empty space in the astral world, floating in nothingness. I have FELT like this, when triggered lately, that I am in the chasm of darkness and nothing helps (except facebook!).

    So major abandonment archetypes are up for me. so painful and alone. However, its clearly time to get to the bottom of this energy and do soul retreivals and whatever is needed to clear it for moving forward. Its not all bad. I just have to work at not feeling sorry for myself and like a victim. trying to observe it rather than identify.

    I’ll look for the Jupiter woman too 🙂 Interestingly I am a new babysitter to a little 19th month old girl, and its warming my heart to be with her. It may be becasue Jupiter is nearing my midheaven htta being a ‘mommy’ is giving me respite.

    Hugs to all you scorp moons I feel you!!!! Remember what Debbie Kemptom Smith says “the scorpio moon has more courage than ALL the other moons put together!” I guess this is how we get it! 🙂

  6. I am having Saturn [after transiting my Moon in Scorpio at 7 degrees] transiting my Mars, at 11. I am noticing that it will also be squaring my progressed Moon, which is hanging out in my 4th house. There have been sufficient manifestations of all this pressure to convince me that Saturn is the kindest of parents if you do what she says.

  7. I’m not due until next year Scorpio moon 24. So far, Saturn has been rummaging through my 12th house. I know this will be big. I am going to be brave and face down whatever comes.

  8. I love the occasional shocks astrology offers, don’t you? My daughter is moon in Scorpio 8th house. In April of this year she had a UTI. Saturn retrograded and then last week at the exact same position it happened again! Scary.

    As for me, I’m moon at 10 degrees Scorpio in the 4th. Almost done with the moon but now it’s on to my Neptune at 13 degrees. Already I feel stripped of dreams and imagination and like they’re gone forever. Now it’s the daily slog – not miserable but unexciting.

  9. My Sun 14 degrees Cancer, Moon 13 degrees Scorpio in the first house Asc 0 Scorpio. My Venus 6 degrees, Mars 9 degrees and Uranus 5 degrees Leo in 10th house. Saturn has made so many transits to my personal planets. I have not had a breather for about a year. My Dad died on Father’s Day (Saturn Sq Venus 10th house), and my relationship of 2 years ended on my birthday. I am sure the Saturn Sq Moon will have something to do with my Mother, I just don’t know what it is yet! I just want to get through these transits and come out on the other side. Peace and Love.

    • Reviewing my post…Saturn conjunct my 12 degrees moon last year. Yes my Mother passed 1 year after my father. So much loss within 1 year, Saturn will be leaving my first house soon. Begone Saturn, my lessons, although learned, have hurt.

  10. i couldn’t find the original message, but here to the person strugg;ing with the squares involving the 9th house. No, that’s not an indicator of “the end” because the 9th house has to do with crisis, as in things coming to a head, coming to conscious awareness, so that they can be used as a springboard for positive change. The 9th house, is a growth house, so I would think that maybe if you could find any moments to be by yourself to allow what is happening in your life that is scaring you and cranking up the anxiety to let you see what is under it, what habits are driving it [6th house is habits, and 9th is 4th -end of matter- to 6th] you could gain some relief and move forward. Hope this is helpful

  11. I commented on this in July but its even worse now. My precious Scorpio moon g-baby is having such a time of it. Bless her heart, she will cry at the drop of a hat. I had her tonight and she doesn’t know if she is coming or going with her emotions. She is so little. It affects the little tiny ones too. You can see her eyes shifting and her feelings just hang on her sleeve. Her parents say….omg she cries all the time over nothing…and I let them have it. I can’t wait till this energy passes. I can take it but baby girl is really having a hard time. She is trying so hard to make new friends in school and doesn’t understand why kids say stupid things to her…. I know its all a part of growing up but it makes me want to wrap her in a bubble.

  12. What a sweet Grandma you are! I’m glad your granddaughter has you. This influence will pass and she will feel more grounded and be more aware of what is and isn’t important on an emotional level.

    This influence definitely ushered in a new era for me. The cost was huge, but worth it.

    God Bless you both.

  13. I have my moon in Scorpio at 26 degrees in the 8th. I hate knowing this is coming. I’ve stayed away from astrology for a while because I don’t know what to do with bad news, especially this far out. I can only imagine this will take my mother, especially with this house placement. Does it ever NOT involve your mother?

  14. Hallo from nov 55. With a stellium stretching from Libra to Sagitarius and no house cusp in scorpio, I’ve not found much comment anywhere yet of much assistance. 🙂 Sun 21*

    • I’m told 11* from Asc is not in Orb, but then those who so say do not have Lot of Sun 105*, Asc 112*, Lot of Moon 119*, Uranus 123* 2nd hs 127*, Pluto 149*, Jupiter 150*, Lot of Jupiter 157*, IC 171*, Eros 200*, Mars 201*, Neptune 209*, Lot of Mercury 212*, Mercury 219*, Moon 224*, Lot of Saturn 227*, Sun 231*, Saturn 234*, Venus 250*, Lot of Venus257*, N.Node 258*, Dsc 292*, Lot of Mars 294*, Chiron 301*, MC 351*.
      So you see Elsa having had to deal with a stellium every moon week in sqr, and a mars every six months, I can say from experience that Saturn is a Great benefactor, completing and fulfilling those disciplines one found necessary to bring one to this return 🙂
      I believe I will look to the fulfilment of those wishes to which I’ve applied disciplined work, hmmm?

  15. Hey Elsa,

    When you mentioned having an affinity with moon in scorpio people, I just kind of nodded my head in agreement because I felt immediately connected to this post, to you, to the way you write… like I had just found something I needed to find (through a google search :). My Saturn is in Scorpio, my fourth house and it is conjuct with my scorpio moon – Pluto is also in Scorpio. I’ve really just started to explore my birth chart and it’s been fascinating. I have a strong virgo presence (Sun and Mercury) so all of the research and detail, this process… has been pretty therapeutic and very revealing. In the last few years, I’ve moved to a different country, gotten married and had a beautiful daughter Maya. I really have a beautiful and adventurous life but I have been so overwhelmed with all the emotions as my past and my present collide on this journey of settling into home. It’s wild and sometimes all consuming. But, It really made me beam when you mentioned the generous cancer woman, because the one who helps ground me – is my therapist. Months and months ago we started to talk about astrology and I remember her talking about the huge cancer influence in her own life (though she is a Gemini – like my daughter). I have no idea why I’m writing all of this, but it’s therapeutic so, thanks again for letting me use this space… and thanks to everyone who has shared before me. I am really looking forward to exploring more of your blog.


  16. Like someone else here, I’m a Taurus Moon as well (16 degrees). The women around me are falling down like dominoes. Getting injured, getting ill, etc. I’ve never seen anything like it in my life.
    When Saturn hit my moon around 2000, my mom made me find another place to live–I had to leave home.
    When Saturn squared my moon, I was injured at work, and the only person who ever called me was Mom–and she would talk for maybe five minutes because she didn’t want to use up my minutes. (that was a really lonely and silent time–I hated it).
    Now–Saturn’s going to oppose it soon. I can feel the depression creeping in. I’m getting ready to marry next year, but my fiance and I have to find out if marriage will hurt his benefits (he needs them to pay for his medical care). Our future pretty much depends on the answer we get. I don’t know if we’ll be able to marry or not. 🙁

  17. The man I have been dating and adore has been childish, selfish and controlling. Never once took me on a date, or met my friends, or made plans with me. Never ever. He easily could, just won’t. I finally hit the wall and pulled away. I just learned he has a Scorpio moon. I feel awful that I hurt him. This is really hard on me, though I have Saturn trine the moon now. He needs to grow emotionally, and I am praying he will learn the lesson, so we can be together.

  18. I now have the Sun, Saturn, retro Mercury and true Node, all sitting on top of my Scorpio moon! Please universe make it stop!!! enough!

  19. Scorpio Moon 17*11′ it’s so nice to know I am not truly alone during this upcoming Saturn transit. This Moon is so very deep, emotional, sensitive and intense I am wondering how this transit will manifest for me. The recent solar eclipse in Scorpio effected me greatly and I am going through a psychological ‘death’ – again. Fellow Scorp Moons will know what I mean. Gee it is a tough gig having this Moon but one of the more precious ‘gifts’ it bestows is our ability to be sensitive and compassionate to others pain. This truly is one of our most abundant gifts to the world I believe

  20. Sorry for my bad, reasonable, readeble english, I just hope you can understand me. I have a scorpio moon and it’s been awful. First I failed college due to now being able to get up, I was un such a depression mood I ended up failling half of the disciplines I had. Then I decided I had to change my life, to make something worth besides going with the flow (which wast a good flow as you can see, I barely made any friends or anything productive that year), then I started college again in a fresh house full of my friends from my previous city, although I have good memories and had meet unique persons how touched my heart in every way possible I ended up with my feelings smashed, lost almost all of my friends and I can say pratically no one stood with me. Oh, and.. again I failed all classes, but this time was much worse, I was on drugs almost everyday of the week, I couldnt get up cause I was exausted to do anything, feeling terrible pain, physical and psychological. So, you can pretty much wonder how I was, I started doing drugs to stop feeling so damn much and to enjoy myself.. ended up being an addiction. Now, I tried once more, changed the subject I was studying and tried.. tried.. pushed so hard, I couldnt do it. I was actually doing my homework and showing up to classes, but that took so much of my energy, like I was carrying the whole world on my back, I was getting worse everyday. Conclusion: now I dropped everything, college, old friends, everyone.. having a huge depression and having such a hard time connecting with people around me, studying, concentration and bad relashionships. I’m just.. idk.. My psychologist thinks it’s better if I take care of myself first, I can’t seem to do this alone. I tried, tho.

    • same person, I just read what I said. Dont think it’s all bad. I learned important things, I managed to stay clean for almost a month now, started doing paiting, reading good books.. more importantly being distrated with good things that may not make me happy, but will make me calmer, at least.. will keep me sane for a while. And I’m doint therapy, which is going well. And dropped the medicine my doctor prescribed me, I figured I didnt want more drugs. (believe, was not easy to do it.. it still isnt, but I’m working). That’s it, wish me luck on being a decent human being. or something similar to a motivated person who can have happy moments now and then. Anyway, at least I found the strenght I didnt know I have.

  21. AAARGH!! My natal Scorpio moon @10 deg (conj Neptune) in second house and the apex of 1 of 3 yods!!! (Scorpio 2nd, Saturn 7th and Sun 9th).
    Any advice? Or at least a hole I can crawl into??

  22. Hi Someone. I’m sorry you’re having such an awful time. Which house is your moon in? I think it’s great that you’re getting help and being encouraged to take care of yourself.

    I have a 4th house moon conjunct Neptune squaring Saturn on the descendant. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been disappointed by people I loved in my life. When I was college age, I had a tendency to idealize people and usually when they disappointed me, the crash was great. I’ve gotten better at this over the years. Moon in Scorpio can be very passionate and intense in relationship but sometimes the feeling isn’t reciprocated. Sometimes it’s not shown the way you show it. It gets easier when you accept people as they are and acknowledge they care in their way.

    For now, I’d focus on getting and staying healthy. The most important relationship is the one with yourself. If it isn’t good how can others be? But people may surprise you over time and reward you for your caring and loyalty.

    Good luck!

    • 2nd house, but I don’t see myself that concerned about possessions, I have a few things I care and don’t let anyone touch it… but in general I couldnt care less. I wonder if it means anything.
      Oh, well scorpio moon 12°38’14”.
      I understand perfectly what you’re saying, unfortunatly, people I preceived as honest were the ones who broke my heart in a way I can put it in words.. for me it’s hard to trust, since I had so many friends breaking my confidence I’m starting to learn to let my feeling out a bit more, once again. – I don’t think they realize the damage it actually means for me, since last year I started being more open and receptive and in return, after more than 10 years of closeness, I was stabbed for opening my heart the first time in my life. Actually, my best friend don’t talk to me anymore cause.. basically I didnt have more energy to help her, I guess she preceived it differently.. I tried to much to hide my injuries over the years.. lately I wasnt able to hide it anymore.. that’s when I decided not to bury my problems or hide them.. but to let them out and heal myself – not that I’m being sucessful but.. I’m trying.
      It’s nice to know there’s more people feeling the same.

      I guess it’s hard when you realize you can find the passion and deepness you need in your relashionships.. I can’t stand superficial connections, but that’s all I seem to get. tho, I have a talent to let people feel comfortable around me, most of them feel free to tell me their lives openly, but usually I can’t find the same comfort.

      Have a nice day, Kate *

    • But I think your right, they key is to stop the idealization, accepting that not everyone wants as deep feelings as you want and let them love you in their own way.
      I know I’ll be “rewarded” if I don’t lose myself in the process, that’s the important thing to do, “not get lost”. I have some precious friends in my life, at least three of them never left me through the years.. no matter how unhappy or miserable I was. They’re still with me and I’m still here for them no matter what happens. I will always be here.

      ** oh, that’s it. sorry for writing so much unusefull information.

  23. 🙁 i’m sorry to hear about what’s happening. This year has been so bad for us too in the family. My husband’s father has a scorpio stellium, mercury, venus & mars, asc, and things have hit hard health wise. i told my husband it’s such a bad year, and he sighs and says it’s a bad year every year. (typhoons, natural disasters, accidents, people dying, economy)

  24. Anna, You are lucky to have the three friends! Really – most people are acquaintances or superficial friendships and that can be great too. Who wants heavy duty all the time? Sometimes I like a break from the intensity and really value my lighter friends. I’ve got my air sign friends who are great company and help me have fun.

    In an update on my own Saturn transit of Scorpio, Saturn has finally left my moon/Neptune conjunction to my IC. Things have gotten a bit easier for my mom, sister, and mother-in-law. I knew Saturn wasn’t done though, Sunday my little moon in Scorpio daughter broke her ankle and is in a cast for a month.

  25. i’m so glad to find this thread.
    scorpio moon 19 degrees.
    my dad died 30 years ago today. when i was 10. saturn was just about to transit my moon when dad died (i just discovered that!)
    pluto has been transiting my sun…he just popped over on the other side of my sun
    i’ve been blaming all the challenging stuff on mr. pluto sun transit
    but have noticed a different kind of energy lately…getting stronger
    within the realm of relationship especially. feeling imprisoned
    in a wy that feels so oppressive
    and feeling some isolation/depression
    i haven’t felt in years
    really thought it was pluto

    but then i discovered saturn is about to transit my moon
    and did some research (yay internet)

    however, something in this transit gives me hope.
    i’ve felt stuck in an oppressive relationship for years
    had a baby with someone
    and since her birth almost 3 years ago
    have been really dependent on this person
    yet he has not provided well (or at all)
    and have experienced so many challenges since her birth because of her papa’s instability
    yet have remained in this
    out of fear
    and out of dependency.

    lately, i find the wisdom and knowing
    that i have to leave him
    even though it is scary
    and i’m not sure how i’m going to do it all alone
    but i just know i have to
    and am reaching out to older women for guidance.

    because i can’t live in imprisonment.
    no matter what.
    i haven’t had the balls to start this in motion.
    i haven’t yet exactly started the process in motion
    but am close.
    closer than i’ve been.
    and this gives me hope.
    even though it scares me too.

    elsa, i’ve loved your blog for so long
    and i’m so grateful you wrote on this.
    i’d love to inquire with you about a reading.


  26. I not only have the moon in Scorpio (21 degrees) I also have a fixed grand cross. Saturn is currently opposite my sixth house sun. I honestly feel like crap, like I could have a stroke or a nervous breakdown. And I know it will get worse before it gets better.

  27. my moon is 26 chiron 23 mars 22 [4th]
    saturn is squaring my ascendent
    apart from normal colds
    i feel optimistic though not everything is how i would like
    life is about adaption [darwin ] says–
    things might get worse but its important not to be a prisinor of our mental projections ‘even the bad times are good ‘-saturn is a harsh teacher but we can learn and be stronger after school .
    ‘i never promised a rose garden ‘.

  28. Hi Elsa and other members. Last weekend, Saturn was exactly conjunct my S/O’s moon at 20 scorpio. We had a very depressing and angry experience which has left us in a bad place emotionally. I believe the relationship has come to an end. Saturn conjuncted his moon at 20 scorpio conjunct neptune at 23 scorpio, which conjuncts my saturn at 23 scorpio and my sun at 24 scorpio. I see this is placing us at a heavy emotional empasse that will affect my life and being directly. It has been a difficult emotional relationship. His saturn is inconjunct this stellium at 24 aries, so it is yet to finalize. Although his sun/venus are trine the stellium from the 3rd to 6 houses in his chart, the stellium affects my 12th house. His sun/venus also squares his natal saturn. from the 12/3 houses. I see it as the conjunct waking me out of my delusion about him, and forcing him to think about his hidden/secret issues that have kept us from stabilizing our relationship. He is very secretive and I think the trine from sun/venus allowed the delusion to materialize. He also has an inconjunct from mercury sextile saturn from gemini to aries. so my sun/saturn was exactly at the apex of his saturn/mercury yod to moon/neptune and my mars, opposes his saturn is right at the point across from the mercury/saturn apex. Can you elaborate on this affect further? My reaction: He has been deluding me for a long time and saturn conjuncting this stellium is putting an end to it? Thanks for your help

  29. Scorpio natal moon placement @ 20 degrees in third house; I have been doing this Sade Siti (Saturn transit) for four years now…I feel like I am DEAD. It is exact on my moon today Jan 16 2014 but I think I have been through the worst already as I have dealt with the suicidal thoughts for years and it seemed to begin to lift last fall somewhat. I have no attachment to anything in my life (except the pup dogs and kitties) – the rest I feel I am walking through a fog. I feel like I want an entire new life but don’t even know how to begin. My mother died on my birthday last year so had that to deal with as well. I am an optimistic adventurous person by nature but I don’t have any enthusiasm or inspiration for anything. It is quite worrisome. It just seems like nothing is working. I just want to sleep all the time. God I am so ready for this to be OVER. What is the lesson? I guess I am dealing with the path of understanding the only security in life is the relationship I have with whatever I perceive to be God. There is nothing else. Lots of breaking down of illusion and old ideas and perceptions, paving the way for new understanding. Out with the old…I hope in with the New…I hope sooner than later.

    • Gosh, Deb. So sorry you have been having such a hard time. I really identify with what you’ve been through. My moon neptune conjunction is 5 and 7 degrees Scorp respectively. It’s like being put into a meat grinder. I can only tell you that it has gotten so so so much better for me now that this influence has passed. Hang in there! Therapy has been helpful too! Not a good time to go it alone. Keep reaching out.

  30. It gives me great pleasure to hear that my ex who is Scorpio moon is having a horrific time (and I’ve heard this through the grape vine too – I’m Leo Moon and I know how nasty Saturn can be from when it passed through Leo back in 2005/06. My ex just grinded salt into the wounds back then, through me out of our house, this was after I had lost my well paid job, which showed her true colours. She was really nasty to me.
    It really hurt and I still sting when I think about it now, the ruler of my sun sign (Capricorn) Saturn lord Kronos is truly the lord of Karma and time. Although he put me through it back then I love him for it now, it got me back on line and made me sort myself out, now his karmic love provides me with vengeance and I didn’t have to do anything, Saturn gave her the rope and she hung herself (not literally of course!) – But that Saturn what a guy!!!

  31. i have moon in scorpio at 20 degree ….it’s so hard time, can’t have relationship….feeling alone, depresed, soo much pressure it’s hell…..i hope to exit sadi sati 🙁

  32. Dear Elsa, I love the way that posts from times past turn up like this because someone has found them and then commented!

    This is a great post. And though I am new to this site and reading this post months later, I can recall that time and the Autumn that followed. It took me by surprise. I am usually a fairly happy soul, (I also feel the depths but feel ok there) but that time last year and even moments now, I have felt such a ‘whump’, as if I have been blindsided. Then I am left low until I recover myself and come back up. I thought it was hormones! It might be that too, but I suspect it is a mixture of what you and others have described in the above. Well, perhaps it is true that you know you are alive when you are ‘feeling’.

    I also think I might have been the Jupiter Cancer for others. And I know my hubby is for me.
    And you’ve been a big help too Elsa.

  33. Elsa, I see this has gone to moderation, so just to say, I haven’t changed my name for any other reason than I saw there was already a Kate on this feed, and thought it might be best to differentiate!

  34. sigh, Moon in scorpio 21’45 degrees, Pluto in scorpio 22’45 degrees in the 7th house… After my GF left me for valid reasons with an unknown possibilities of coming back on february 5th before mercury retrograded. But that was only its direct motion, with any 7th house action i did also have to deal with the legal side of life, which has taken time away from my daughter that is 5 months turning 6 months on the 21st of march, one day before my birthday, and i am not unable to see her, needing to resort to the justice system, which will only take time. But the material world seems the easiest while the emotional world of uncertainty is beyond my grasp, as Venus in pisces and a Taurus ascendant, i am drowning in my waters, so unsure as to what i can do, if there was ever a time where i felt more lost it would be now in my emotional realm.

    But there is also rejoice in the aspects of Saturnian lessons, i have stuck to all of my responsibilities and have pushed myself as much as i could so i could have the rebirth of my higher self and feelings, hoping that some how this will make me into a better person so i can handle the challenges that lay ahead and be the best i can (hehe forgot how much of an aries i can be). Although i am growing i just wish i knew what more i could do to make it go in the direction that i want, or just the fastest way possible.

  35. My moon is in Scorpio, Western astrology, but remember that this is Libra in Vedic astrology and Saturn is exhalted in this sign. Yes, people leave or you leave people, but I have gotten so much mental clarity since then. I can feel my vibration increasing. Although after a long time the feeling of stress only returned for 2 days during the cardinal grand cross during which the lesson was to keep cool. I took help of a few people. I’m on the watch out for the repercussions for my actions. Got to see.

  36. I have Moon in 23 degrees in Scorpio and boy this transit is killing me from the inside out. It is one of the most intense time periods I’ve ever encountered and it doesn’t look like Saturn is going to stop until I learn how to stand on my own two feet. I got in an accident that fractured my hip (Thanks a lot Saturn (bones) in Scorpio (pelvis)!!), and I couldn’t walk for a month. I assumed the people I care/love and sacrifice endlessly for would be there for me but they weren’t. Being the Scorpio Moon drama queen that I am, I had assumed the man I was scandalously involved with (also Scorpio Moon and older male (Saturn)) would race to my bedside at the hospital in a heartbeat but he didn’t even call nor even bothered to know where I was. I mean, I helped this man through some serious stuff and helped him get back on his feet. Where was he when I needed him most??? Worse, he has avoided me completely after accident. The feeling of abandonment from someone you’ve been emotionally involved with for so long was more painful than the physical injuries itself. Devastation was an understatement. Saturn transit in my 2nd house of values is seriously teaching me to value myself more and make better choices for the long-run. I can’t depend on someone else to validate my self-worth. I can’t just get involved with any man just because my intense Scorpion desires want to. The transit also showed me that my beloved father (Saturn) was always the first person to rush to my side for any major crisis I encountered. My father was first person there for me at the hospital only hours after accident. This crazy transit also showed me the people that are the Rocks in my life and I feel extremely grateful. Saturn is helping me re-work my foundations and I hope to come out a stronger person when the transit is over 🙂

  37. I have a scorpio moon at 12 opposing Chiron.
    I have lost a lot of money during the last years (I started to build a business 2010) and at the moment I am in a very dark state of mind.
    It got better but since Saturn is retrograde but during the Grand Cross I had a complete breakdown again.
    I am very depressed at the moment and reading blogs or watching videos about this topic is my what helps me.
    My moon is in my 7th house and I met a lot of truly EVIL people the last years who tried to take advantage (and some did) of me emotionally and financially. I was pretty naive and have seen how people change when it comes to money and you literally can’t trust anyone apart from family( Im not sure about that one, too).

    I have learnt a lot –not about business but the evil side of human beings–but at the moment I am feeling stuck, very lonely and can only hope that Jupiter which will trine my stellium of Sun/Venus/Mars in the early degrees of aries, will bring some serious relief. It will also make a sextile to Jupiter/Saturn in Libra.

    The only positive thing I experienced the last year was due to Jupiter in 4. I had a very beautiful apartment for a small fee close to Central Park and my amazing flatmate supported me emotionally and became a good friend (a scorpio sun).

    I was recently in a relationship (or whatever it was) with someone who had his Sun/Neptune/Moon/Mars in Scorpio 5-12 degrees and our moons were in exact conjunction.
    Although I felt very close to this person and believed we had something special, he was emotionally abusive an treated me like a piece of Sh** –sorry.
    He expected me to accept other women in the bedroom and he once even had intercourse with a woman upstairs while I was sleeping on the couch in the living room–of course he told me before and now as I started to detach myself from him, he calls me volatile and doesn’t understand why i freak out on him.
    The other woman had the same distress with him, he was using both of us and speaking about love (even in front of each other).
    I have never felt so worthless in my life.

    I am a strong minded person who never got into abusive relationships before and I seriously hope Saturn retrograde won’t affect me for too long. Does anyone else feel the tension with Moon in 1-15 Scorpio .
    Or is it the Grand Cross?

    I have some huge opportunities to improve my career at the moment and could move to the city of my greatest dreams but I am completely stuck financially.
    Scorpio moons tend to be suicidal and I really, really hope I find a way out of my disastrous darkness that I am experiencing because I don’t know how to move on.

  38. I apologize, but I would rather prefer not to post my chart online.
    The Grand Cross was hitting my ascendenct/ descendent.
    I am slowly managing to completely get rid of this emotionally abusive man and I even moved away but isn’t it crazy that I miss this person?
    I never in my life expected moon/Saturn to be so difficult. It literally throws you into isolation.

  39. I believe it has to do more with the Grand Cross because I see a lit of people struggling at the moment, especially financially.
    I have studied astrology since my first BIG CRISIS, which was 1998 when Saturn was in conjunct with my stellium and it was TOUGH— I think it was worse than now because I was so young. Now I can deal more with challenges and know they will pass but that time I was in complete shock and
    close to psychosis.

    Though I believe to be quite independent and financially well-off by myself (which happened during the first Saturn conjunction with my Stellium (before I was scared to be an outsider and appear lonely),
    every crisis seems to manifest financially so I become stuck with all my projects and goals.
    However, there will be the light at the end of the tunnel, that’s also what Saturn taught me.

  40. “Not matter how unpleasant a Saturn transit seems at the time, it represent what you really want in life, and is helping you get it. Most people are out of touch with what they truly want. If you thoroughly understand your needs and wants you will that Saturn simply bring about their manifestation: The “losses” that Saturn brings are of things that you do not want or need. No matter how much you think you want them, let them go, especially relationships that Saturn ends.” Robert Hand

    These words are the only thing that have brought clarity in my life, with Saturn going over my Moon 21’18 and Pluto in a tight conjunction 22’45, in my 7th house. I have been feeling this pretty hard, but after reading this it made me realize that it was an inevitable outcome that is leading me closer to my life goal. I hope this helps some of you, i know its tough but stay strong 🙂

  41. Help! My son was born February 21. His Moon is Scorpio conjunct Saturn in Scorpio. It is at least well aspected with tight and loose grand trines in water. It is also well aspected to my Sun in Pisces and my husband’s Moon in Pisces. I had Pre-eclampsia and an induction 3 weeks early. He had undiagnosed lip/tongue tie, ended up hospitalized with jaundice, my BP went back up from stress, I was hospitalized again, and we were separated for a day. His Dad and Grandma had to take care of him in the hospital for that day. We lost our breastfeeding relationship despite tremendous effort. He’s had horrible colic and cried inconsolably at times. We never ever let him cry it out. We’ve always held him and comforted him regardless of how tired we were. He was held or put in the moby wrap nearly 24/7 for the first few weeks. We have made sure he has family, extended family, and friends snuggling and loving him. We found a good breast milk donor, play soothing music, and do lavender lotion massages. He is starting to get through the colic and actually enjoys being set down and left to play and kick. He has more and more happy or content days. My question (through this long winded post) is are there any suggestions on how to parent a child with this aspect?

  42. Well, things seem to get better now.
    The Grand Cross didn’t really make things easier during Sade Sati.
    But a lot of tension has been taken away by now.
    Thank you Jupiter…

  43. Hi. I’m glad to see this post is still active. Wanted to ask your opinions of that full moon in Scorpio that occurred last week and aspected my and my significant other’s stellium which is — (Mine)12th house – Sun 24.24, Saturn, 23.54, Mercury, 14.39 (His) – 6th house – Neptune, 23.50, Moon, 20.36 The charts are not included, but the relationship is really rocking on the edge. But maybe more importantly, the moon at 23 degrees 54 minutes of Scorpio – exactly conjunct my natal Saturn, ruler of my second house.Moon rules my eighth house. My friend is a Cancer with 24 degrees Taurus rising, so both of our charts took a severe hit – the moon conjunct his descendant from the 6th house. I have not had the nerve to view the aspect in any of my children’s or other family member’s charts, but I was sure to pay my taxes!

  44. @ Lori — Quoting You: “We’ve always held him and comforted him regardless of how tired we were. He was held or put in the moby wrap nearly 24/7 for the first few weeks. We have made sure he has family, extended family, and friends snuggling and loving him. We found a good breast milk donor, play soothing music, and do lavender lotion massages.”
    That sounds like the best possible way to parent any child. You and your family are very loving and nurturing. Your son is blessed to have such a family.

  45. I have my 26 degree Scorpio moon in the 4th house. Here in Southern California where I have lived for the past 7 years, it’s in my 5th house. My moon squares Pluto in the 12th house. I’ve been experiencing so many of the feelings I see you all have, too, which gives me comfort, even though I don’t know you. I am unbelievably sad, anxiety ridden, feeling tossed aside by my son and daughter-in-law and in general from by boss and others. I have no friends, I’m a caring person. I miss my parents who both died a month apart three years ago. I have no real friends here and the company I work for is going out of business, so at the age of 60+, I need to look for another job. Every door seems to close on me. I know Scorpio is about deaths and rebirths and transformations. I want to come out of this a stronger person, and am seeing a therapist to talk about it all. I want to quit obsessing on my sadness, aloneness, anger and bitterness and feelings of rejection and lack of respect from the people in my life. I am not usually this down, but for the last month or so, it’s been worse. I will continue to work on myself and try to process and make sense of my feelings, but I just wish it’d get better…looks like I’m in it for a while longer since Saturn is still quite a few degrees from my moon. Thanks for listening;)

    • hiya –

      M J ,
      iv got

      a 26 degree moon scorpio–

      have had the grand cross on my sun neptune conjunction
      my moon conjoins chiron 23 and mars 22

      i have the same thoughts as you – but your view point is flawed
      one doesnt own freinds children or anyone else really
      we cant expect them to dance to our tune
      its nice when they do but one cant command it
      DARWIN says survival is all about adapting to new realities
      i miss certain relatives and my daughter but she they are on journeys in life of their own
      no one want to listen to a wall of resentment/neediness
      so ‘change your thoughts’ and change your reality .
      i have changed my house around and now have 3 lodgers
      [great distraction ] [and income ] –
      im a member of many clubs even tho im not allways able to go
      i organise astro meets with astro colleagues [more company and insights]
      im 66 this year -still go salsa now and again plus blues/FOLK clubs.
      i have some trepiidation about the final exact hit of saturn but like a cork we will bob up again
      saturn is a harsh messenger -an opportunity to grow and learn .
      and be stronger people don’t respect ‘overly needy ‘people im afraid .
      find a group of like minded types and be a supporter to others .
      i saw a great play monday -just saying —
      i love music and learning song lyrics insightfull
      i beg your pardon
      [‘ i never promised you a rose garden ‘]

  46. I hear what you’re saying, Malcolm. I cannot expect people to cater to my neediness and I need to get out there, join things and make my life what I want it to be. It seems easier said than done, but I have taken some steps which is not easy for me to leave my nest. My moon in scorpio is in the 4th house, did I mention? I have joined an astrology group that meets once a month. I am volunteering at the local thrift store where the proceeds benefit abused women and children. I am trying. You are right – if I can change my thoughts, I can change my life. I used to be an optimist and hopefully I can be one again. Thanks for your feedback.

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