Pluto Transit To Your Ascendant, Descendant, Midheaven or IC

First, this disclaimer: I use EQUAL houses. So when I say “angles of your chart”, that is exactly what I mean. I am referring to Pluto transits over the angles of your chart, where the angles are the same degree as your ascendant.

Pluto transits over the angles of your chart are invariably drastic and life-changing. For example, when Pluto crossed my midheaven,  my life took such a turn! I had to live underground for close to ten years. Me! A social, outspoken person.

I had always lived in the light. I was listed in the phonebook by the time I was seventeen years old. All the sudden I ceased to exist in public (10th house) life. I lie dormant for nearly a decade!

I know a man, he’s a Virgo with a Sagittarius Moon.  He’s a vibrant, kind, active person and when Pluto crossed his descendant, he had a motorcycle accident that wound up costing him his foot and leg below the knee.  He owned a business with an office in an open loft above the ground floor of the large open space that housed his operations.

I watched him hop up those stairs on his one leg, after that accident, wondering just exactly how he could manage.  He had a family who relied on him, foot or no foot. I guess that was that.

Not everyone has a Pluto transit an angle of their chart in their lifetime but some people have this transit twice.

Have you ever had Pluto transit an angle of your chart? What happened?

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  1. Oh for f*** sake! Lol!

    Pluto is getting closer and closer to my 4th house angle, beginning to Square my Asc-Desc axis and oppose my 10th.

    I’m kinda scared!

    I have rough ideas of things now beginning to happen in my life that might be the seeds that Pluto is planting…

    A Scorpio entering my life! Who has issues! Who said himself that he’s dangerous…

    O_O

    • When pluto crossed my IC I told my parents I was gay. I moved continent (literally) and still moving. In a while, pluto will conjunct my Mars in the same house, after this I am sure I will have my home. 🙂

    • I posted last year as transit Pluto approached my IC… things were falling apart rapidly and continued to do so for quite a while. It actually really started when Pluto entered Capricorn, subtle yet building… mainly 4th house issues. However, up until that point in my life(now 59)Pluto, being a neutral planet, was kind to me at every turn. I do have an exact natal sextile though Pluto to Sun , 29’59 Leo to 0’01 Scorpio, the planets being in mutual reception. Pluto also prominent on the fixed star Regulus…. guess that helps.
      Looking back, I have found the Solar Arc progression of Pluto to figure prominently in my life, more-so than transits as related to lasting effects… When conjunct Venus( Ascendant Ruler), my earlier quiet disposition took a 180 degree turn… I also have Jupiter exactly conjunct Venus so that personality change makes sense… and I never looked back. When Solar Arc Pluto reached my ascendant degree ( mid age)… I went through a total change in the appearance of my body – exercise etc… still going after 20 years. Now Solar Arc Pluto is approaching my Sun, still in the 1st house… ( and Neptune in exact conjunction to Sun)
      Returning to the context, yes, the transits are hard but they are not permanant unless you make the wrong choices. When Pluto hit my IC I was more depressed than ever but I just went with flow and took my beating. The Sun is rising now and Pluto is now granting the lasting effects. In the last month or so, I have felt a tremendous rebirthing process and now feel more confident and alive than I ever have. So to all, hang in there, have patience and it will pass.

  2. When Pluto crossed my AC, it was back in 1988-89.

    I got married, sold my home and pretty much everything that I owned, and moved to Hawaii. It was huge, but it wasn’t horrible. I was happy to do it. Maybe if I had resisted it would have been traumatic?

    I may live long enough to experience it crossing my IC (24 deg Aquarius)… we’ll see.

  3. Great, just great. Shortly after Pluto hits my moon at 11 degrees, he’s going to hit my DC at 15. I know change is coming, good & bad, as that train has already started rolling. Unfortunately, Uranus will also be exactly squaring Pluto just at those times, so whatever happens, I’m assuming it will happen quickly.

    I’m thinking positive here, as I don’t want to encourage my worrisome Moon.

  4. A Pluto opposition was an awakening to real life–have gone through life w/stars in my eyes to the world. Pluto, an outer planet has a very wide swing and know one experiences ‘aftershocks’ from an opposition, but I think the inconjunct is worse than the opposition — probably because then you are aware.

  5. Pluto crossed my DC a few weeks back and will continue to go through my 7th house. So what happened? I met a man who I am having an intense long distance relationship with…it’s obsessive, it’s not light or fun like my sag stellium would like, but hey he’s got tons of both libra and scorpio…

    also for some reason I’m attracted more men than usual. I have a feeling they are pluto types as well. Oh man. Usually I’d like this but I want nothing more than to partner with ONE at this time in my life.

  6. So, Elsa, if my Ascendant is 0 Virgo, my “angles” are different from my MC/IC axis? They are 0 Sag and 0 Gem rather than MC/IC which are 20 Taurus/Scorpio?

    I did not know this!

  7. That is how I read a chart, kr. If something crosses an angle, any angle, all the angles are affected – this is why it is a big deal.

    You only have to watch this for a short time and it will be shown to you and you’ll know it without a doubt.

  8. That’s fascinating. My NN/SN are exactly conjunct my north/south angles. So I’ve always felt transits to those points but had chalked it up to that alone. And now I have another way of looking at it.

    Cool, thank you!

  9. I don’t know, because I don’t know enough about astrology to know if I’ve had a transit or not. I do have Pluto conjunct my asc, Venus, Merc, and Uranus. I had a bad accident in 2004 that disfigured my face,blinded my right eye and turned my world upside down for quite sometime with some effects still lingering. I wouldn’t be surprised if I did have a transit 8 years ago.

  10. When Pluto was crossing my desc, (between 2008 and early 2009) My father was suffering cancer, he passed away on Feb 2009. And my relationship of almost 5 years (I was 26 years old then)sufered two brake ups, the first one when Pluto was over my desc and the final a couple of months after my father died.
    So, all in all, I lost my S.O. (7th house) and my autority figure (Capricorn).
    My mother and I share the same ASC, and she lost her partner, who was like an autority figure for her also, since my dad was 20 + years older than my mother.
    Pretty cook-book for the transit.

  11. Pluto stationed on my IC in 2004. I was violently raped and strangled nearly to death by my then boyfriend/live-in. I remember everything going black and then ‘seeing the light’ as they say. My last thought was of God and my 5 year old daughter.

    When I came to, every blood vessel in each eye was burst and my face was a swollen mess. Looking in the mirror validated that this was not a nightmare, it in fact really did happen. I felt deeply ashamed and humiliated for being in such a position that I didn’t tell anyone for about 2 weeks. When I finally opened up and told my family what had happened and that I needed to move somewhere, and quickly, it was as if they didn’t believe me. The bruises were gone, I had nothing to show for it. I was desperate, I was wounded, I was hopeless and I felt completely helpless.

    No where to go, I rented a U-haul truck anyway. It was the day before the move and I was desperate. I asked a friend if we could move in temporarily, fortunately she said yes. More determined than ever to stabilize my little family (daughter, dog and cat) within 3 months I purchased my first house.

    From that beautiful sunny day of settlement in August of 2004, never had I ever felt more stability and accomplishment, in my lifetime.

    Thank you Pluto!

  12. Pluto will be crossing my ascendant in 2018. I must say I have a great deal of trepidation about this. If I am still blogging here at that time, I will give a full report!
    I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has had this occur!

  13. Right now Pluto is at 9 degrees in my 11th house. My MC is 9 degrees into the 12th house also in Capricorn I am not so sure it will cross any of the major angles in my life time as slow moving as Pluto is. By the time it crosses that might be when I leave the Earth plane. I have always felt it was odd that really the major planets don’t seem to phase me much. However I do notice when they affect my family members.

  14. Thank you so much Elsa and Hades Moon I am a survivor!

    Elsa, I have been a lurker for quite some time. I have thought on commenting on previous posts here and there, but this one, was SCREAMING at me… 🙂

  15. Yup in 1997 (conj my dsc)my grandmother, she was my best friend, died. I started to see how much I couldn’t tryst my husband. By the time it left my 7th I told my husband I was done and we lost (8th house) the farm we had moved on to. I quit homeschooling and was all of a sudden out in the public eye again.

  16. I can see how Pluto asks us to let go, but it doesn’t always have to be life threatening. I had Pluto conjunct my IC in 1987-88, and not much happened. I moved in with my boyfriend, so in essence that was a letting go, but that’s about it. Years later when Pluto trined my Moon and conjuncted my Part of Fortune in my 4th house, my grandma passed away.

    • Good point, barb. As for how drastic this transit will be, you have to look at Pluto in the natal chart and also if there are other planets involved…planets conjunct the angles of your chart, basically.

  17. Pluto began it’s transit to my Sagittarius ASC in 2006. At the time I was also having my Saturn Return and t.Neptune was square my Sun–and creating a Grand Fixed Cross in my chart.

    2006 I gained a lot of confidence–much more than I’d had for many years. I learned I had healing hands and became more conscious of my psychic abilities.

    Not long after that the trine to my IC began. That has been very painful however part of the reason that is so is because I have Chiron conjunct my IC.

  18. pluto to MC – lost home, parents lost business, jobs, all our stuff was auctioned off etc

    pluto to asc – weird rare disability, lost parents, in-laws, friends, lost job, health etc. town was in a big flood. then a tornado.

    it’s super-concentrated.

    a lot of loss, destruction in just a few years.

    I have stuff on my angles in my chart – it’s pretty angular.

  19. Pluto AC coincided with Saturn AC, Uranus sq Uranus, my Nodal return, Chiron on Algol opposing my Moon and some other nice transits. Much of this time I was in the army, learning to kill. We have conscription, you know. In a proverbial Pluto AC and Chiron Algol manner, I went to the Army Hazmat School. I had some conflicts with authority, especially the abuse thereof. I had my first real fight against a criminal boxer/bodybuilder out on parole, who attacked me from behind. That ended in a draw, which I didn’t like, so I changed my strategy somewhat, acquired some skills and now I don’t have to give anybody a draw. I also had pneumonia. Twice. Socially, I was in a bubble, all by myself, observing all the happy people outside. Life sucked, as usual. For years, I was full of hatred and distrust for rigid hierarchical constructs. I still don’t trust them, but now my distrust is better informed and hatred has crystallized into scorn. I’m sure there must be some purpose to this. Evil does love to hide behind authority, doesn’t it?

    Currently, Pluto is in my 2nd, about to catch up with my progressed 2nd hs cusp. From the experience I’ve had with Pluto in the 2nd, I can already guess the effect of the Prog 2nd hs transit. What little I have left in this world, shall be taken away from me, to be replaced with something intangible, that won’t pay the rent or buy me food. If we had a monastic institution, this would be a good time to get me to a monastery.

  20. Well I have Pluto conjuncting my ASC, and it’s harsh. I have had lesson after lesson after lesson. But first I had to have my Saturn Return.

    I’ve had to deal with death and destruction, people trying to control me and I’ve pushed them away. I’ve also realised that that I’ve always had the power, they wanted to take if from me. This was the reason why they hurt me.

    I’ve learnt so much, and I’m still in the middle of it or starting it again. I’m finally becoming a woman with true confidence.

  21. After a bit of research–when Pluto crossed my midheaven, the decision was made to leave my emotionally abusive husband. I had spent 8 years getting him into and through medical school, and walked away with nothing.

  22. Pluto is conj my ascendent now. The pressure is intense and yet the learning is like nothing else could have done it for me. Capricorn is on the asc in my natal chart, and while Pluto has been in my 12th house chronic issues of control, loss, illness and beliefs (legacy) are redefining me.

    What dreams I chase (my moon is in Capricorn conj my asc as well) are a current theme; old ones surface and in the light of a new morning, I ask, “Still the one?” More then not, the answer is probably no longer.

  23. Pluto transited my AC in December 2007 and throughout 2008. It wasn’t horrible. I put my house up for sale and moved to the opposite side of the country. It was big change and took some adjusting but all in all not a bad thing.

  24. I had Pluto opposite during my Saturn return.

    Had surgery on my hand that didn’t quite work, for problems I’m still dealing with more than 10 years later.

    Got divorced. Moved cross country twice. Lost my entire support network, including my family (who didn’t talk to me because they didn’t know what to say – that’s how foreign divorce was in my family until this generation), remade my life twice because the first remake was a practice run.

    Gained a lot of weight due to an autoimmune disorder that showed up right before my divorce. Found a doctor that was mostly off the grid, lost it all again. Went from not being able to walk down my driveway to walking 3-4 miles a day, and 10 on the weekend. Got my legs knocked out from under me again and again until I figured out where to put my feet, literally and figuratively.

    Went to therapy, dug up shit that was 25 years old (then), learned about PTSD, found out how fucked up my brain really is, but learned how to live with it. Got sorted. Got happy. Got smarter. Earned some stripes.

    Sun/Saturn in the 1st with Mercury conjunct from the 12th, Moon/Neptune in the 7th, all sitting on the Asc/Dsc axis. Pluto was in my 7th when all this happened.

  25. Pluto has also crossed my ascendant in Capricorn.

    It has been very tough (and I’ve gone through Pluto transits to my Sun, Moon, Neptune, and Mercury).

    I’ve also had to deal with death and destruction.

    @sunnysadge – really happy to hear this.

  26. In cred ible.

    Met my ex-wife when Pluto hit my descendant. Last time I saw her (a while after the divorce) was when it exited the House.

    Wow.

  27. I was going to say I’ll be glad when it’s out of my 8th, but Pluto can take as long as it wants getting to my Midheaven.

  28. Pluto is about to square my Asc/DC-axis which is already very sensitive as I`ve got Chiron, Moon and Uranus conjunct those angles as well..
    I`ve felt the tension rising in multiple areas of my life and I hope I`m alive when this transit in Q is over. But it won`t be over for years :/

  29. Pluto crossed my ascendant in January 2008.

    It’s all here, everything that happened. A fight for my life that lasted three years. Every connection I had had to anyone, even myself, was detonated, burnt down or transformed beyond recognition. I’d say probably nobody could do anything to me anymore but that’s *probably* not true. It just feels like that most of the time.

  30. Pluto will be conj with my descendant toward the end of the capricorn pluto My descendant is 25 degrees Cap. So I have at least ten years before I get slammed. I hope.

  31. I was born with Pluto on my MC conj. my Moon. I never had a very good job until now. I had gone from temp job to temp job for a long time. But most jobs I suffered abuse from my bosses. One almost tried to rape me. The others were power players or just plain seedy. Saw a book on one’s shelf, “Winning through Intimidation”. He fired me. But I figure I was the one who won because he was such a creep. I just did a twenty year spectrum on my chart for a Pluto transits to my angles and the most significant one is when it crossed my ASC I got married. But when Saturn transited my MC 12 years later, I got divorced after meeting someone on line who I thought naively was in love with me. Another was around 1977 but it wasn’t on an angle. It was transiting my 11th house and conj. my Jupiter in Libra. I was raped by a co-worker of my father, who worked in a ad agency. He took me out for the evening at request of my parents who were traveling at the time to an event that they had tickets for but could not attend. They knew of his rep and set me up, probably thinking I could handle whatever was gonna come up. No pun intended.

  32. @Melissa: so glad you made it past all that. How traumatic that must have been and to have your family turn their back on you. (((Melissa)))

    (((everyone)))

  33. Pluto crossed 4th in 2001-2 (square Asc and trine mars, uranus and venus in 11th). My father was dying. In short, a big power struggle happened between other family members and me. They wanted to get rid of my father (disconnect him) and I did’t want. I was almost alone to take care of him and finally they succeed to disconnect him in my back and he died. Since then, althought I was not in so good terms with them, it made estranged from them, and they still try to manipulate my mother to completely disinherited me. Pluto is in my 4th.
    2007-2009: In the same time, Pluto opposed my sun and uranus arrived in 7th house: my husband left and a divorce followed.
    1964: pluto conjunct ascendant, started school at 5, went well.

  34. When Pluto crossed 4th House/IC, I got fired from my job for the 1st time in my life and then suffered multiple other losses (relationship) in my life. Financial status began to spiral down…so I took a retreat at a retreat center to try to get a handle on my life and ended up moving there for a few years. I moved from the big city of Chicago to the woods of WI into a one room cabin and lived mostly as a hermit. This went on for about 5 years. Was the hardest and best years of my life. Literally let go of all the non-essentials of life and molted. Overall, that period was ultimately a very healing and soulful valley in my life.

  35. Pluto will cross my MC in 2015. The last time he crossed an angle was when I was in middle school. I went to a Catholic high school, not public school, where I’d been for 8 years. I was teased mercilessly, and I wanted to get away from that whole situation. Pluto crossing the DSC coincided with just that – I left and disappeared.

    I got through one Pluto transit to an angle, so I can certainly handle another, whatever difficulties it may bring.

  36. huh. yep, pluto crossed my MC in sagittarius; squared my jupiter/asc in pisces, natal pluto in libra, and opposed my natal saturn in cancer.

    man that was one bunch of transformational years. grandmother died, got carjacked at gunpoint, lost my job, moved to a different country, began new “career”, lost friends, got married, became a mother. then of course there was the september 11th trade center tragedy.

    holy noodle that’s a lot of transformation. thanks for putting this in perspective, Elsa. i’d never really thought about it like that. i had always chalked that series of death/rebirths up to my packed 8th house in my solar return. now i see it’s a combo deal.
    i

  37. It’s about to hit my sparkly tauri’s asc (at 11 cappy). I’m waiting with baited breath and watchful eyes.

    It won’t hit my own dsc until it reaches late cappy,
    Angie

  38. Pluto is on my ascendant right now. It makes me wonder what’s slowly changing about myself, my appearance, and my personality.

    Perhaps I’m becoming more open towards people than I’ve ever been before. Maybe it’s the thoughts of investing into some kind of weight loss surgery or laser hair removal that I’ve been having for a while now. Maybe, with the square to Uranus coming up, I’ll finally have the means to leave home and become independent of my family like I’ve always wanted to.

  39. I’ve had two Pluto transits to my angles.

    The first to my Asc when I was 14/15. I can’t remember anything specific except that’s when I fell in love with a much older married man – a friend of my parents. Everything in my life was hellish difficult at that time… that did change my mental landscape and gave me some support where I needed it. My relationship with my mother was probably at it’s worst in those years – we had one cataclysmic physical fight which sent my sister into hysterics. I hit my mother back to get her off me, and told her never to raise a hand to me again.. she didn’t either.

    The second Pluto transit was to my IC during 2000/2001; Pluto kept retrograding around that period. That too was a very tough time: I was struggling with lack of work, no money, and living somewhere I didn’t want to be. I was still trying to hang on to some of my London life, but it became all but impossible.

    I lost my car, and couldn’t afford another, which made me horribly stuck – and my health started to deteriorate quite seriously. I had my first sinus operation which was pretty horrible. I saw my mother for the first time in ten years – and for the final couple of times. I was very depressed and stressed out a lot of the time. But I did grit my teeth and get through it

    Then my mother died in Sept 2001 when Pluto was moving pretty well exact onto my IC. this was a life changing thing in many respects – materially as well as emotionally. I re-established relationships with two cousins and their families; I gained thereby a room and therefore a foothold in London again – but I lost my sister who freaked out partly over the way Ma left her will.

    It was all quite seismic, for me.

  40. I see what you mean about using equal houses. If I calculated correctly, Pluto would have crossed my IC when I was 12 and 13 years old (?). The exact degrees were the month I lost my beloved Maternal Grandmother, who was my primary resource for mothering in my early years. It also happened near the month that I had sex for the first time. I was raped by a 19 year old.

    My Grandmother’s death set me up for my career as a healer- the most successful part of my life so far. She is still with me.

    I was not mature enough to face the rape until the last couple years. I thought I could just brush it under the rug. But, now, I see that it haunted me through my attempts at partnering until 2010. At which time, I was forced to face the feelings from that experience when the a#@hole appeared at my daughter’s Christmas Pageant: the father to my daughter’s new best friend at her new school!

    I am relieved to have Uranus exit my 7th house. Lesson Learned. thankyouverymuch

  41. Pluto crossed my IC around 1991-2 and yes, a transformational time. I left my abusive ex for the first time in 1991, literally moved away from him and left him standing at the old apartment. He didn’t believe that I’d leave him even though originally he was supposed to move out.

    Then he showed up at my new apartment with a gun, which he put to my head and demanded that I take him back. So yea, I took him back. I bided my time, I worked hard on the relationship because apparently according to him I didn’t work hard enough at it. My brother got married in 92 and we went to the wedding. It was one of the lowest moments in my life as my ex got extremely drunk and made a complete and utterly embarrassing mess of himself.

    I finally left the ex again in 93, this time with a police escort. I went into hiding…just like Elsa did for many many years.

    Pluto transformation – absolutely….

  42. I’ve had Pluto transit two angles so far. Both times signalled major moves. Pluto crossed my ascendant when I was 10 and crossed my IC (last year). The transit to my ascendant took place when my family left Spain for Vancouver to join our relatives. At school I was given a nickname (my real name was deemed too foreign by the teachers) and I was bullied horribly by the other girls (because of my accent, my home-made clothes, my looks). It took me about two years to fit in and by junior high school I was popular and doing well in school.
    The transit to my IC has been more difficult. It hit me hard this past year. I can relate to Blessed Place. I left a great career in Vancouver to move with my husband to a small city outside of Seattle. My work suffered. I’m making a fraction of what I used to make which has affected my pride/ego and I’m no longer a “big whig” in my industry. My husband’s ex-wife suddenly dropped the kids off with us and disappeared and the judge awarded us sole custody so now I’m raising teenagers again (my own kids are in university/living on their own) which hasn’t been easy. And like BP, I’m living somewhere I don’t want to be. I was trying to hang on to my Vancouver work life and colleagues but I’ve been giving up on that too. It seems like Pluto is intent on destroying my old life in order to birth a new one. Pluto is big in my chart as it conjuncts my Mars and both planets square my Venus, Mercury and Moon stellium in Gemini.

  43. Wow, there’s a lot of intense stories here.
    Mine wasn’t that bad. I had Pluto go over my Sag ascendant in 05/06. I got a job at a lumber mill (long, gruelling hours doing the entry-level work). I worked harder, physically, than I ever had before in my life; and liked it! Some nights my hands and arms would be so worn out that I could barely shift my 5-speed to drive home. It was how my single mom supported me as a child (and what she still does to this day), and it gave me a whole new perspective on who she is.

    I rented my first house by myself, and about 6 months later it flooded. I admit, I was pretty naive about it’s location on a floodplain, but the river hit a new high water mark of 26 feet that year. The neighbors right across the street said they had 3 to 4 inches of water in their home, and for some reason I could never figure out, I got about 3 feet of water at my place. It wasn’t sitting significantly lower, in fact there were homes that sat lower than mine, and when I talked to those people, they all had 3 or 4 inches. Beats me!
    The water picked everything up, even the fridge, swirled it around, and rearranged my whole house! The only thing that survived was the bedding on my air mattress! I didn’t have time to move anything but myself out when it happened because I had been out of town. I came back home to see what was going on about an hour before water started creeping through the front door. It was a purifying experience.

    Then about 2 weeks later my now boyfriend asked me out on our first date. And it has definitely an “authority” style, power struggle relationship.

  44. While Pluto was crossing my MC we left a stifling situation in a country we’d been in 9 years, moved somewhere very challenging and foreign for three months and then settled into our country of origin. As it went through the 10th I started a career job, then Neptune squared natal Neptune followed by Pluto square natal Pluto (mid-life crisis)and I wrecked (Pluto) my reputation (10th) by “running off with the Gypsies” A Neptune man. It did not end well.

  45. Began in 2009 with Pluto on the DC conjunct my Saturn and Jupiter, with Mars and Uranus on the MC. My natal Pluto is on the IC at 29 degrees. Lost my job, lost my home and all my possessions, lost old friends, lost my reputation and went to jail, lost my teeth; but the upside is that I realized how much my husband and family love me. Nothing can shake them loose. Can’t fathom what comes next, it’s a long time yet until it is over.

  46. Pluto rules my 3rd house, and is nataly in my 2nd (Equal).

    Had it going through my IC… now its in my 5th.

    Anyway, started using drugs, and going underground when i was 19. By the time i was 24 i met this girl in which i felt like going to a long term relationship. Pluto was conj my Neptune, ruler of the 7th house… and i quit drugs in order to make she do the same.
    I started working, but kept a real private life, in which has been this way ever since… not an underground junkie anymore… but a fucking loner.

    The worst was my mom Alcoholism… and we all moved out of our neighborhood into one way farther and less accessible.

    I got hit by a car at that time… it was opposing my Jupiter (ruler of my 4th/IC), and conj my Neptune.

  47. I have natal Pluto in the 9th house, Uranus conjunct MC, Chiron conjunct IC, Venus/ mercury/ Saturn conjunct DC. Natally: Pluto sextile sun & Neptune, square Venus/ mercury/ Saturn & ascendant, and mars in the 8th house. My ascendant is at 2 Capricorn so I’ve got a long way to go but this has been a positive transit so far. There have been big changes but I feel like I have been working a long time towards them & now I have the strength and energy to make things happen. I had a difficult and traumatic childhood followed by a tumultuous adolescence and I feel as though I’m finally “coming into myself”. I’m not sure how much of that is Saturn rising and how much is just being a plutonic person but it feels like I’ve learned some difficult life lessons and now I have been given opportunities to apply those lessons. I think you give the best advice; the only advice that can really be given for these types of transits – you’re usually talking about Saturn but I’ve found that when I’m honest with myself and fair with others, it matters. Always. Again, it seems more saturn but it works for me every time. Saturn is prominent in my chart: ascendant in cap, Saturn in the 7th in cancer conjunct the descendant. My chart has obvious things to say and I do ok when I am mindful.

  48. Pluto crossing my IC in 2010-11, was the single worst time of my life. I also have natal Saturn directly on my IC. Within 3 months I went from being nominated as the manager of the year to being fired because my boss was afraid I would take her job. Was unemployed for a year and a half. Quit seeing my friends because I was too depressed. Moved to another town for a job, then found out my husband was having an affair. I got a triple whammy because Pluto retrograded back and forth over my IC. F-Pluto!

  49. Pluto was on my Asc in 2006. My father passed away after having survived Vietnam twice and having a heart transplant for 20 years and 6 months. Shortly after that my mother was diagnosed with colon cancer. Thankfully it was treatable. She is now in a nursing home though with Alzheimer’s, as is my mother-in-law.

    Wild ride Pluto! He’s still in my first house and I continually change my appearance .

  50. In 2000, I had Pluto Sagittarius conj Mc and Saturn Moon Taurus 3rd conj 4th House Cusp. My Grandmother died. She was more my mother than my actual mother. I lost the person who helped me feel grounded on Earth, and the only person who could make me feel safe (Taurus, 4th). At the same time, I felt a great sense of freedom (Sagittarius)in that I was no longer tied to the rest of my extended family, who are a bunch of lying backstabbers. Later in the year, I was able to completely cut that part of my family out of my life, which was a great relief.

  51. IC. lived on my own for the first time in my life. not by choice, my friends all decided to kick me out. turned out to be a good thing. i wasn’t good at picking friends at that age. and i had moved very far away from my parents by choice.

    and my grandfather died. first major death in my life. forced me to face mortality. was one of the greatest losses of my life to date.

  52. conch that’s how i understand pluto transits work: grinding back and forth over the angle until you really really get things burnt down :/ it’s not a day or a month but a year or so of being caught in the oscillations…

  53. When Pluto transitted my ASC (and it’s still not far off), I lost my physical health.

    And of course, when you lose your health, the rest of your life falls like dominoes: Money, career, home, significant other, indpendence, mental health.

    The phrase that seems to resonate through most of these Pluto posts is “I lost, I lost, I lost …”

  54. My parents divorced about the time Pluto had just gone over my DSC (5deg) and was about to hit n.Uranus (8deg), also opposing Venus/Mars/Chiron on the ASC. My mom and I moved out of the house and I had to change schools. Not as traumatic as some of the things in my life but interesting to correlate the transit to.

    • Brave to be so truthful. Astrology forums are full of people bragging about meeting the love of their lives or owning their home. When you lose everything under a Pluto IC transit these Pollyannas don’t seem worth wasting seconds reading their “experiences”.

  55. Pluto: takes some intuition but if you find you can NOT control the loss then let go! In my relocation chart transiting Pluto in Capricorn went within 3 degrees over my Mars on the IC.

    Lost my home and 3/4 of my belongings. I KNOW that in September Pluto will be going back to the same point (IC & Mars)so let go! 🙂 Oh, I lost my job too (first time) ..effecting the MC also of course. Too soon to know what’s going on….am I being groomed for a relocation? Saturn return coming soon too! (My first return was a breeze…) Let go let go and read between the lines..keep open to the message. And let go. Hold on to what you can but Pluto can put some things out of your control. All the best

  56. Good afternoon Elsa. I’m still a bit confused. So you’re saying that, if my Asc is 29 degrees Gemini, the MC at 10 degrees Pisces is not the angle but 28 degrees Pisces is considered the angle because it’s 90 degrees?

  57. Well, at this point, I don’t know what to say about Pluto. It has just entered my 4th house (thereby squaring my DC and opposing my MC). Pluto transit is also squaring my ascendant and sun.

    This is just the beginning and already – I left my job to join my crazy husband in his effort to study abroad, but later changed his mind. He spent all of our savings and left us homeless, broke, and jobless. I can’t get a job for the life of me now – at least in the tech field anymore. He helped completely ruin my credit and got two evictions because of him. I’ve hated him for several years now but he always refused to leave until now. Also, just about everyone I was friends with has turned away from me. My relationship with my parents is very strained because my 2 year old daughter can’t stand them. My husband fled the country to join a foreign military unit. I don’t know what the hell to do. This is just the beginning. The only ones who seem to reach out to me are struggling mothers. I have alternating days of severe depression and apathy. This drama is unreal. I don’t drink or do any drugs either, but my compulsive tendencies are highly active right now and are hard to control. That’s how things are looking for me.

  58. Pluto crossed my Asc., in 76-77. I was a teenager. It was life changing for me. I was still living with my grandmother, my grandfather had died 6 yrs earlier. It was just the two of us. She and I had a difficult relationship. She clunge to me, she wouldn’t allow me to grow up. We fought constantly. My mom was living in another state so she was useless.
    When Pluto hit, my grandmother had a severe stroke which put her in the hospital. I was being shuffled back and forth between relatives for a couple of months.
    Finally my Pisces aunt decided to bring her mom, a Cancer to live with her family, with me in tow. She just couldn’t put her mother in a nursing home. (My aunt was a wonderful soul.)
    It wasn’t an easy transitional period for me. I fought these changes in my life. I had to take care of my invalid grandmother, I had no social life to speak of. Many of my friends just fell away. Complete upheavel in my life.
    But through this change, I became more mature I slowly became part of a normal family structure. My aunt and I had always been close, but eventually she became more of a mother to me than either my mom or grandmother ever were.
    Pluto completely cleared out the life I knew, but he gave me a better one. Once I finally started to accept the drastic changes, I quickly realized how my life was actually going to be better. When it was over, I had more freedomn than I had ever had in my life. I was also invited into a loving family unit, which was happier and healthier than anything I had lived in before.
    I remained like a daughter to my aunt and uncle until they both died in 2002. I loved them both, very, very much.

  59. hmmm…pluto crossed my ascendent when I was 9? Ok so during that time, my mom was living with a “friend” and her kids, so there were 5 of us. Her friend hated me. I think that is objectively true, actually, not just how I felt. Her eldest son tormented/bullied me (and everyone else too). But I think the time that it was actually ON my ascendent is about the time my mom and her friend broke up and this started years of living, basically, in poverty. We were living in this horrible basement studio apartment (it was so bad, it would flood in heavy rain and there was literally 2 or 3 inches of mucky water in part of the apartment for days afterwards) for a long while, then while pluto was still in my 1st, we became a bit homeless, and my brother and I were sent to live with my aunt/grandma as my mom had some kind of breakdown? That whole scenario still is not clear to me, and is a strictly verboten topic. There were also incidents of molestation around that time. Cripes. Thinking that over, I am NOT looking forward to the IC action I’ll be getting soon. For equal angles, that’s at 15 cap. I think I need a hug already.

  60. I’m having a hard time figuring the math on this one. Can anyone tell me off the top of their head when Pluto was passing through Scorpio? Thanks!

  61. Pluto transited Scorpio from november 1983 to January 1995, more or less for you have to take into account the retrograde periods of Pluto in May that year..

  62. I am so nervous I have Pluto conjunct my IC starting Jan 2014 it’s already squaring Uranus on my DC and now Jupiter (and in my chart) Mars is teaming up on my MC (where my natal Mars is in conjunct). That Pluto/Uranus/Jupiter T-square that’s about to happen globally is happening on my axis! LOL HEEEEELP!

    Jupiter is bringing me amazing connections and gifts to my house of career lately, so hopefully I can get my sript sold!
    Uranus brought an Aquarius into my life as it came into conjunct with my DC.
    Now Pluto down there on my IC frightens me!

    • JRy, your post is older so I don’t know if you’ll see this but I have very similar transits coming up in 2014. Pluto in the IC at the same time as a Saturn return and Uranus on the Desc. I have serious doubts as to whether I will survive this. At any rate, you are not alone. Good luck!

      • In situations like that: (example) saturn crossing ascendant, pluto crossing IC, Uranus on descendant all at the same time; I learned that you should choose to follow the energy of one planet in simple terms. Either saturn (bend your head and hold it together), pluto (truthful power struggles), or Uranus (rebellion).

        I believe this is a way to not lose your mind lol. Btw I chose Uranus back then and I am proud of it! Haha

  63. Currently pluto is squaring my natal pluto, at the angle of my 5th house and opposing my natal moon. I have had rough 6 years!!! 2005 when in sag I had my son, lets add that my sun was conj transting saturn. Then after 2008, I separated, joined the military, went to war, almost got killed, I was raped by a brother in arms, conceived a child and now I have two sons. When pluto ooposed my moon this past August 9th, I broke up with my partner, for him pluto was opposing his venus. Haaaard times. Pluto at the angle of my fifth, squaring uranus in my 8th. I have a natal jupiter in cancer 11th…. I don’t know what to think of all this. But since its about to enter my fifth, I’m worried for my children. I hope it’s more about passion and a new love, because neptune ruler of my seventh, is squaring my natal neptune, currently at home in Pisces and is about to oppose my asc… Help?

  64. Pluto was on my MC late 2003/early 2004. I was pretty glum (and not very outgoing) at the time, but by mid-2004, I started learning about the world of geology. Right now, I know more and more what I want to do within the field of geology.

    Thank you for showing an example of a Virgo Sun with a Sagittarius Moon, I can relate to that kind of description, and he sounds like such an amazing person with the way he overcame obstacles during the Pluto crossing his DC transit. I’m a pretty vibrant and active person. As far as motorcycles are concerned, I’ve reserved that interest for the Jet Moto video game, but I still do active things like boating, stream wading, hiking and martial arts. I do try to reconcile having caution (Virgo Sun and Saturn in Sagittarius) and adventure (having a fire kite with Mars in Aries Rx, Moon in Sagittarius and Uranus in Sagittarius), and if I have any injuries, they’re pretty minor thankfully thus far.

    But ugh, Pluto in Pisces will be on my Ascendant when I’ll be middle-aged. I think that’ll be the last Pluto transit on my angles in this lifetime.

  65. When pluto crossed my asc. I left an abusive relationship with my sons father. It was absolute chaos. I left with nothing except some clothing and papers. It was a scary time. I thought I might end up murdered or my son taken. None of that happened. But the future was so uncertain. And the hits just kept coming. When pluto retrograde back over my asc, I took off with my son after being told a specific plan for my murder. Well I almost got charged with kidnapping. I had to Allow my son to have fifty fifty visitation with his dad. It was a nightmare.
    All of that had to happen for me to be aware of my strength. But there Are scars.

  66. Well, I’m glad/freightened to have found this forum 🙂 Pluto Will be crossing my CAP IC at 13 and thus squaring my libra Asc at 13 degrees as well, of course, let’s don’t forget uranus on my desc. I am kind of worried because that’s going to happen next year along with saturn activating my t-square conj mars square venus and moon and neptune opposite my sun in virgo (trying not to be paranoid about p. Moon opposite p. Sun too 🙂
    I kind of know where the hits are coming from, but from what I’ve just read above….it’s going to be intense!!!!
    Wow

    • Thaveed – How have you fared with these transits? I have almost the same configurations exactly, and so far – nothing. A great deal of inner pressure to quit my job, and deep frustration over being without a partner and feeling no support, but other than that, nothing outward. Would be very interested to learn how this plays out for other people. But you especially, as we have the same signns/degrees on our angles. Thanks!

      • Paleblue,
        I have ACS 10 Libra and IC 12 Cap… I am having these same feelings, affecting both the 7th ( partner) and 10th (career). Uranus should set this off when it hits 12 Aries in late Nov to mid Jan. Being stationary direct, the Uranian energy could be intensified. Uranus may cause a sudden release of the inner Pluto energies, forcing them into the open. Interestingly, Mars will conjunct Pluto Nov 11/12. That may offer a signal connected to the Uranus transit that will follow…need to look closely at the house rulers for more clues.

      • Hi pale blue! Well, Pluto will be crossing our angles on the third week I January! Let’s see what happens then…for now I definitely feel both Uranus and Pluto strongly. For example I moved back to my mom’s house after braking up a crazy relationship, it’s been a year already and I know for sure I’m not going to stay in this house for too long, for sure my roots are being revisited and I “came” back to my family after a long absence (4th house) and I know it isn’t over. Uranus in 7th? Crazy too! Very different patterns of relating. I have also been working out more than ever, so transformation of self (Pluto is natally on 1h) and got some laser treatment to remove some old tattoos, style of clothing has also changed. I am a little concerned thoug, about January, because my mom will be having some heavy Pluto too, more specifically, her Jupiter Mars conj right on my libra ascendant, and her whole libra stellium 8house will be squared by Pluto thus opposed by Uranus, she is having also Saturn conjunction MC, Venus and square natal Pluto on 6h. Also my progressed moon will be opposing n Pluto….so, lots of Pluto and Saturn for January 🙁 let’s see what happens…..

        • Hi, Thaveed! Wow, well, yes, it sounds like alot going on for your Mom and for you. Hang tight. I kind of think some of this Pluto on the IC and in 4th for me will bring my mother’s death (she is 90) so it will not be a surprise, and oh my, yes, it will kick up all kinds of family CR**. I don’t think I will have to move, thank God, as I love the place I live in now. If I have to go back east for a funeral, I will have to steel myself in a big way. And I have been alone for so much of my life, I was hoping Uranus on DESC and in 7th would might maybe change that…?? (Sound of crickets..) Nothing. Yet. The only major thing that has happened is positive – a total breakthrough in my painting, which has me possessed and obsessed and unstoppable now in my art. Sounds Plutonian but I don’t really see how it connects to my creative life. I am a novice in astro so it would probably be obvious to someone. Anyway, I am riding that and loving it. Makes up for alot of other emptiness in my life. I feel like I’m channeling Frida Kahlo. haha Well, let’s all check in in late February if we are still alive and compare notes. Happy holidays to all – Paleblue

  67. I had major pelvic surgery when Pluto was within a few minutes of my IC (14 Libra) — a bilateral pelvic osteotomy, which basically involved the surgeon taking a piece out of my right pelvis and implanting it (with a pin) on my left. It was very painful, I was in a body cast for six weeks, and then had to spend several months in a children’s rehab center 100 miles from home to retrain my muscles to walk again.

    It was a life-changing experience for me in the sense that every child there was disabled in some way, and living there taught me an important lesson about looking beyond the outer person. We had school right there in the center, and the recreation director made sure we all had lots of opportunities for fun. Some weekends I didn’t want to go home to visit because there were dances planned, or movie trips. It felt strange when groups of my friends would come to see me there, because some of them were clearly uncomfortable with seeing all the kids in wheelchairs and “banana carts” when I’d long since gotten past that.

    Pluto is coming up on the square now to my MC so I wonder if that earlier experience will be related in some way to what is in the near future. Uranus will be on the MC itself. It looks like a forced career change for me or maybe forced retirement.

    • Oh, and Pluto was squaring my ascendant from the 4th (exact) when I moved in with my then-boyfriend, and a month after that we moved together to another city. I loved the apartment we had, and the new city, but we didn’t get to spend a lot of time together after moving, and it was difficult financially. The relationship itself ended nine months later right after Pluto had once again exactly squared my ascendant.

  68. When Pluto crossed my Midheaven my mother died. A year after that my older sister, lost without my mother, took her own life. Although initially both of these incidents were devastating, I barely made it through… I look back now at that time and think, my relationship with both mother and sister was volatile at best. They were both alcoholics, cruel, selfish and were never really “there” for me.. it was always the other way around. Due to a sense of “duty”, I couldn’t bring myself end my dysfunctional relationship with my family. Once Pluto crossed my Midheaven, both relationships were ended for me. It didn’t hurt any less, but I’ve come to look at Pluto transits, if your lucky and/or unlucky enough to have the Major ones, as a rite of passage.
    Today, many years later, I wake up every day happy about one thing or another. I don’t have that “heaviness” in my head or heart. Pluto crossing my Midheaven THE turning point in my life, and now I know I can handle Anything that comes my way.

  69. Pluto is conjunct my descendant at 13 Capricorn and I messed up my shoulder. I may have torn my labrum and I’m probably going to need an MRI. This is a big deal for me, because lifting weights is my main passion.

  70. Thanks, Elsa. This is an interesting site. I’ve always wanted someone to look at my natal chart for me, because it’s very unique. I’m a triple Cancer (Asc 13 degrees, Moon 15 degrees, Sun 21 degrees) with a crazy T-Square (Mercury opposite Uranus/Saturn; with a Mars apex). The planets are at Aries-points, too – Mercury at 1 degree Cancer, Uranus at 29 degrees Sag, and Mars at 29 degrees Pisces. My MC is 22 Pisces.

    If I scheduled a 30min phone consultation, would you be able to answer some specific questions for me? I’m mostly concerned with work/career and what I am supposed to do for a living. My main interest is powerlifting, but that’s not a career; it’s just something that I will do on the side of my job. My T-square involves houses 12, 6, and 10, so it makes sense that I’m struggling to figure out what to do… (I’m sorry for typing so much. Ha).

    • Thanks, Rob. I’m not sure that I could address that. A chart will not show what a person is supposed to do for work. To me that’s a matter of discerning what you’d like to do, determining it it’s even remotely realistic and if it is, you then plot a path towards your goal.

      Same a power-lifting. 🙂

      • I understand. : )

        Also, I have one more question…
        I’ve been using the placidus system up to this point, but I just checked out my chart with equal houses, and both of the descriptions fit me. I’m really confused about which one to go with now. My Mars/MC move from House 10 to 9 and my Pluto moves from House 5 to 4. I’ve read all of the descriptions and I can’t figure out which one is more accurate. (I’m kind of disappointed about Mars not being in the 10th–because I kept reading that such a placement was ‘warrior-like’ in terms of public image–but I guess that Mars in the 9th would also make sense, since I am highly philosophical and enjoy weight lifting). I’m also highly creative, but I had a domineering father; as well as a handicapped sister in a wheelchair, which makes Pluto in the 4th seem reasonable, too. (My father left us when I was young; even though one of his kids was handicapped, and he even refused to pay child support. It would make sense if I had Pluto in 4). I also remember reading that Mars in the 10th happened a lot in the charts of people who had fathers who were police officers, and my father was a state trooper. That would be using placidus, though. I am too confused now… Both house systems seem to work for me.

        (I was thinking of requesting a consultation, but I need to pick a house system, first).

        • I (wildly) prefer equal houses, however, I am in the minority, mostly because of astro.com. They set the standard in this Internet age and their standard is Placidus.

          • That’s what I noticed, too. When I first started to research astrology, I thought that it was the only way to divide the houses. I’ll need to mull this over now. My world has just been shattered.

            In either case, I have Mars (29 Pisces) conjunct MC (22 Pisces), and that definitely feels right to me. I just can’t figure out which house works better. I am highly driven to succeed in this world, but I also like sports and competition. I want to publish a radical book on philosophy, in hopes of public recognition–because I feel that I have some genius ideas–yet, I want to compete in powerlifting at the same time.

            I’ll spend some time thinking about this for now.
            Thanks for responding to all of my questions!

      • Sure it does Elsa, Noel Tyl in his book gave some examples, a Leo MC good for acting, and actually the guy with Leo MC went acting. I have a Cancer MC and I work in the housing industry, how literal…and so on, astrology can be so literal sometimes. Look around for examples, you’ll find tons.

  71. When transiting Pluto hit on my midheaven, mid Sag, I quit my job of 17 years, divorced after 25 years, moved to a different city and basically started all over. It was good for me tho. Have to say I’d do it again!

  72. I have Pluto crossing over do again now as we speak, as well as squaring my sun, with the uranus conjunction as well..The last year has stripped me totally financially, through two major thefts at both my home and work… I have had to rent out my house and move back with my father, as well as having all my one on one partnerships of many years dissolve and crumble… I had a breakdown in December last year as the first crossing and square came in, also during venus retrograde… Right now the only partnership I have intimately has closed down as well… It’s been hard and I feel completely alone… But I also know that somehow this is purifying and burning away the unreal.

  73. I broke up with my then live in boyfriend when pluto crossed my ascendant. Had boundary issues with clients, lost a little bit of weight, grew my hair long, changed it to dark red with lighter highlights. I have to admit I look much different than I did three years ago as it made it’s way through my first house. I have had some health issues and accidents that caused me to change my diet and routine. Met a much better and compatible man this year and it’s still going great. I say not easy but many blessings.

  74. Please, anyone – Anyone who has already gone through the Pluto on IC/Uranus on Desc. (at the same time as a Saturn return, anyone?) – Please – tell me what happened in your life. I’m pretty much at the end of the rope. Please, if you’ve gone through this particular combo already, tell me what happened. Thank you.

    • I have been experiencing the combination you describe and for me it has been perhaps the most difficult time of my life. When pluto sat directly on top of my ic, a very dear friend killed himself. Someone I never thought I’d live without. He was the love of my life and perhaps the most influential person in my life. Our relationship was complicated and his death brought a lot of unresolved issues to the surface. The pain I have experienced during this time has been immense and isolating, separating me from my friends and family. These events have shaken the very foundation of my identity and I have had to be extremely honest with myself about what I value, what I live for, who I really am on my own, stripped of all the things I’ve learned to hide behind. I don’t know what you’ve been going through personally but all I can say is you must hang in there. Great transformation is available to us if we can find the courage to embrace these challenges, but it seems that fighting them only postpones the inevitable.

      • I’m so sorry, Annie – so sorry. I can imagine the pain this would bring. I know to my core the feeling of having everything stripped from you. I was there in 2006-7 when I left my entire life behind, sold everything I owned and moved from New England to California alone with no job. I feel that way now, only without the hope of a new place and life, and without the money to make that happen. I have never felt so lonely in my whole lonely life. My work exhausts me, I have no partner, no love, no affection, my friendships are changing – the ones who seem like “fair weather friends” are leaving in droves, or I am feeling disappointed, alienated and even bitter toward them. Even ones I thought were true blue are hard to find. I don’t know why I do this anymore, and have deeply considered leaving all this myself. I feel as though I have no reserves to handle any more pain, and here comes Saturn and Pluto.. and URANUS! I don’t know how I will get through this winter. Saturn is hitting now, almost exact return, and the rest is exact in February, I think. I am sleeping alot and making myself as numb to pain as I can just to get through. Such an empty feeling. Life is so hard. No savings or security at this age, no help. I just want it over with, but I get so angry that I shake my fist and say, “Bring it, you F888ing bastards!” and just fight through it. If I feel it too much without anger, it’s just overwhelming for me. So I must have some Mars thing that I should thank for giving me this fight to make it through. I feel so much for your friend. I know what it takes for someone to do this. My heart goes out to all who come to that point, and to you, too. Love to you.

      • I had Pluto on my IC this year. First, I lost my job of 20 years through betrayal and then I lost my dearest friend. He was crushed to death by a car. I can relate to what you’re going through Annie312. I’m an island because I’m trying to deal with the pain of it all. Its terrible.

        My friends and family don’t really understand my distance and are no help at all. I know somehow I’ll make it through, but there are no happy times here.

        I know I have to go on, but I’m having a hard time moving on.

    • hi pale, ive just been thru it in last 3 yrs. i have 6 libra rising and 6 cappy on IC. so pluto went over my IC and uranus was on DSC, PLUS it then squared my venus in cancer near my MC. lets just say, it was a doozie. was driven out of my home of 17 yrs, all my animals died. my longtime colleague died. the guy who screwed me over in my home died and i inherited his dog. then the dog died. i had 6 failed pregnancies with a guy who ended up cheating on me anyway…good thing i didnt have a baby with him! lost a record contract. quit my other jobs to do music full time and then that fell through. spent last 2 yrs building a new home, only to have problems with neighbor’s psycho (i mean psycho) gf who accused me of stealing her pets and tried to press criminal charges against me. pluto is now opp my venus in cancer 10th house, (near MC). NOW im embroiled in a lawsuit against my new neighbors..ive had to get surveillance cameras to bust the gf who has broken into my car and done various disgusting things to it. (ie peed, poured water, planted animals in it, etc). career wise, its all messed up. i started working with a big star in the electronic music genre and now hes trying to control me (pluto in 4th, opp venus in 10th). not to even mention that ive had a falling out with both my parents, who try to manipulate me for their own selfish ends. i havent spoken to my mother in 3 yrs. my father only contacts me if he needs something. being that i AM venus in cancer, all of this has been devastating, exhausting, and hurtful. i can only hope that these things are empowering me in some way..

    • Hi,
      Yes, I happened to have that, a while ago. That time it not feel it a disaster, it was just constant changing of everything I had stable in my life. My marriage fall apart. Got divorced. Met my new husband. Then by Uranus got on my DC I remarried, and moved from Europe to US. My daughter decided not to come with me which was a heartbreak. She was 18 that time. And the last one was that I lost my Mother. So not an easy chapter of my life. It is on for long, as both planets are very slow. But being scared doesn’t help, you have to swim with the flow, just keep you head above the water!

  75. Heart & Hugs, Everyone

    It seems that Pluto crossed my AC back in ’76. During that time, my mother moved us to our first home. I was separated from my friends and the only male figure I had at the time, my grandfather. He died in ’85-ish when both Saturn & Pluto were transiting Scorpio (aspecting any combo of the 5 planets I have there).

    Now, I have Pluto warming up to my 4th hse cusp. The angle to watch, according to Elsa, should be 13 degrees. Pluto arrives at this point just as Saturn leaves Scorpio. Coincidence, not likely.

  76. Elsa, in reading what you wrote about equal houses based on the ascendant, (11 degrees Libra), would that mean that you would consider my IC to be 11 degrees Cap rather than the 13.57 that astrodienst shows it as? Meaning that I have technically already had my Pluto conj. IC at 11 degrees? Because when I look back to 2013, Pluto was exactly square my ASC when I DID move out of a very noisy and suffocating place into the paradise where I now live. Probably clutching at straws here, but – was that the Pluto IC if we go by equal houses? Thank you for a response… Maybe it’s the Saturn return that has me feeling like eating glass these days. : P

  77. But the whole house system bases the angles on the ASC, is that correct? This is interesting, as the leaving of that place was rather Plutonian for sure, and in that same month, I had a heartbreaking (Pluto square DESC) revelation with regard to a relationship. I will look into the timing of other events with regard to this, too, and if it lines up, I’m going with equal houses, too.

    • Using the whole house approach puts my IC at 10 Cap, otherwise at 12 Cap. Last year, when Pluto transited over the 10 degree mark, there were issues centered around major repairs needed on the house. I have spent most of my spare time during the last year restoring the house since Pluto at the 4th is good for house repair but the main point is that the whole house system was supported by events. I’m sure there will be more coming up as Pluto transits the 12th degree. Especially with the transiting Uranus square from Aries ( 7th). Family issues are already surfacing today as Mars is 12 Cap…Mars or Sun are generally triggers – hope this is not a precursor to the events to occur around the Pluto/ Uranus transits. For you, see what happens around the time that Mars transits 13 Cap
      Like you, I am also having a Saturn return – exact in early January. We seem to be having very similar aspects. Look to the house rulers for clues as to possible areas of crisis or transformation. For example, Pluto rules my second = spending money on or transforming 4th house matters. Uranus rules my 5th – son is bringing up repressed issues about 7th = my spouse. Saturn – ruler of 4th, square natal Pluto (2nd) at 29 Sco followed by 2nd return at 0 Sag. Natal North node is also ) Sag and Venus (1st) transiting 0 Sag by progression. It all seems to tie in…but we’ll see.

      • Thanks, Bob – It’s interesting to cross-reference the P;uto transits with natal Pluto planets… (This is probably a no-brainer for astrologers – I am a novice, obviously.) My natal Pluto is in the 11th house of friends, and there have been issues with friends lately.. Uranus rules my 5th house as well. Zero action there so far, although I am a painter and I have been painting up a storm lately, so maybe that. But Uranus, ruler of natal 5th transiting Desc & 7th house – I was hoping for maybe a rain to end a VERY long dry spell. Nothing, even when Uranus was exact to my Desc. I am really feeling the Saturn. When Mars goes over the IC with Pluto there, I will stay in bed. Jeeeez. Thanks for the insight into whole houses, though. If that is the case and it is based on ASC, then I would have gotten the brunt of it back when I moved in late March 2013, and what I’m really feeling now is the Saturn, mostly… maybe. heh

        • Shortly after my first Saturn return, I moved away from my family and friends and felt very lonely for a while but it did pass. This is one thing that my mother, as an Astrologer, taught me when I started learning Astrology when I was 19 (now 58). That is… all these transits pass and so do their effects. Somehow that makes it easier, at least for me. Hope you fare well.

          • Yep, I’m 58, too. July 8, 1956. Thanks for the reminder that this, too, shall pass. Have a Jupiter return coming in August that I am naive enough to be hopeful about… they never seem to have the impact that Saturn does, do they? ; ) Well, I hope all of us who are being hit by this angle business emerge the better for it.

  78. Hi all,
    I just had transiting Pluto (in 3rd house) square natal Pluto in 1st house Libra,simultaneously with transiting Saturn(2nd house,Scorpio) square natal Saturn (11thLeo).It was a real nightmare – I got gall and kidney attack,my daughter hurt her wrist badly,my husband had some serious legal problems,and I went to a funeral of a relative.I was quite depressed with obssesive thoughts about death and bad things happaning to my dear ones.Now I am waiting for Pluto crossing my IC(Capricorn)at the end of January, then opposing my natal Jupiter and Mercury. And on top of that my tr. Uranus(r)is on the DSc.I don’t know if I will be able to go through all that is awaiting me.My daughter is having Pluto crosing MC (sag) in March:)I will be travelling abroad twice in January and I am scared.

  79. This is quite an article. I’m having my first transit Pluto doing angular aspect in my life conjunct my ISC/DSC in Capricorn 15º degrees 7th house, this April. Funny my retrograde transiting Saturn will be conjuncting my natal retrograde Pluto in the 5th house Sag.
    My transit moon will also will be squaring Pluto in my birthday (LOL!). Sun sq Neptune and Mercury sq Uranus.
    I wonder what this all means… but it sure looks promising. I also have Chiron in 4th house, as well North Node. I’m taking a riding license for motorbikes atm, I’m single and with some rather tumultuous family background. I’m worried about how will this affect me, given all the experiences of the people with similar aspects here.

    Even though I can say I had a meaningful life as child, my life in the late years has become much meaningless and without sense of purpose… stagnant, nowhere to go.
    So I’m trying to find my refuge in spirituality and meditation, but I guess Pluto will turn my life to the really big change my life needs. I always had dreams of a meaningful life with a sense of some sort of achievement (given the strong 10th house I have), so hopefully this will put me on track.

    I’m quite new to astrology but this article helped me connecting and understanding a lot about aspects in astrology though, thanks 🙂

  80. Hi Elsa,
    Good morning all!
    Pluto Trined my Leo Moon and Ascendant in 2004/2005 and they were wonderful years. Happiness/Love/Money.
    Pluto will start Trining my Taurus MidHeaven in 10th House in 2016 and will repeat again in 2017 together with it Trining my Taurus Sun in 2017. Trust/hope good Transits!
    Best wishes and have a nice weekend,
    John Henry

  81. My Midheaven is 13 Capricorn. When Pluto firs crossed my MH, I was physically threatened at work. This caused me incredible anxiety and because I was a contractor and the people who threatened me were permanent employees, within 6 months I was fired, under the guise of “we’re not renewing your contract”. There was a certain ethnic group that was threatening me, and nothing I could do to appease them worked. They simply hated me. When I lost that job, I lost a lot of my self esteem. I felt betrayed, and like I could not be seen, not for the life of me. Anything I said was taken the wrong way, I wasn’t believed— and I do not lie, not with Saturn the ruler of the MC— you learn early on, lies at your employment bite you in the ass, and I can’t stand embarrassment at work. Finally I got another job, in a completely different career, being a floor worker at a crisis center. The same ethnic group made up most of my teammates. Within weeks, I could feel it. My boss called me in and told me the team was “having trouble” with me. They said I had “attitude”. Of course I had attitude, you have to stand up for yourself *somewhat* when people are undermining or outright attacking you, which they did plenty of…. but I wasn’t running to the boss every time they did it! The last straw came this week when a patient called me expletives and my team mate derided me in front of all the patients. The team mate was 21, I am 56. I was filled with embarrassment. I went to my boss and told him that I am now in danger when these patients, who are in our psychiatric facility against their will, and angry about it, are given permission by the staff to strike out at the workers. 2 days later, I was fired. My team mate outright lied in order to justify his actions, and said I had told the patient to “shut up and eat his dinner”. Because I was PRN and my team mate was full time, with a father who also works at the center, I was shit-canned.
    They say Pluto brings out the ruthlessness in you or others. This transit is turning ME in to a quivering bowl of jello. I’m afraid to express myself at ALL because every time I do, it gets blown wildly out of proportion and ends up ruining my reputation. I look at my behavior carefully, more than most people. I know that I do not allow myself outbursts or tantrums; somehow I am accused of it anyway, by the very people who themselves throw tantrums. This particular ethnic group is very prejudiced against white people, and the state I live in has a very low white population compared to others. I have come across this discrimination in almost every way in this state. But the women of this ethnic group are the worst. They want to subjugate white women, and they laugh and joke about white women.
    Anyway, I am reading all these posts from you guys and I see and understand how Pluto tears down… and how so many of you had to go underground just to survive… it’s like we have to make ourselves so tiny, so small, in order to get through the transit.. except for the Soldier who went out and blew stuff up when Pluto went direct on his MC… I have had 3 hits so far and will have 5 hits in total to Pluto on my MC. And I need not mention Uranus squaring my MC/DC axis at the same time. This last full moon was directly on my Uranus/Chiron/Moon in Scorp t-square and it never fails… emotional shock. I cried all the way home (to my mother’s house) because I feel so trapped by circumstances!

  82. Still a ways off, but 2020 will be a big year for me. pluto over my DC (5 times!)and making it’s conjunction with Saturn there – exact to 7 minutes of arc. The same year Jupiter and Saturn also cross my DC and Solar Arc Neptune exact on it too. All the major conjunctions happening that year fall on my DC and it is also my Saturn opposition that year. Trying to empower myself with foresight now! Thanks Elsa & every-one for your stories!

  83. When Pluto conjunted my Sun in 1974, within one year almost everything happened to me: there was a major political revolution in my country, I left school and started working, I met a foreign man, run away with him, married ( big deal at the time a young girl speaking to a foreign man let alone marry one), went traveling, moved to exactly the other side of the world and had a baby.
    My Sun is 8degrees Libra on the 9 th house, and ascendant 23 degrees Sagittarius. I was born in 1954.
    Now I’m at cross roads. I’m 60 years old, and Pluto is squaring my MC. I have been travelling SE Asia for the last 3 and 1/2 years, Saturn return? I’m planning selling everything and moving to another city. Or moving back to where I originally come from. I feel a bit insecure with these changes and decision making. I also could have been recently in Nepal and dead. I count my lucky stars which brought me instead to an encounter with an unpleasant man but which left me with no scars. I do hope that this square with MC it’s ok.

  84. Are pluto squares to MC/IC considered be as challenging as conjunctions to those angles? It’s a ways off still, but with my MC at 17 Libra that transit is coming up. What have people experienced with the Pluto square?

    • Equal house system really puts a different spin on my chart. According to that system my MC is 27 Virgo; does that mean pluto is not transiting my angles after all?

    • In my experience, any planet near an angle triggers changes that are related to the nature of the house and the planets involved…You have Pluto near ASC and transit Uranus near IC…Pluto rules 11th ( income from job) and Uranus rules 2nd(your income)… I would expect changes in these areas, not necessarily bad unless these planets are afflicted natally… with transit Uranus at 4th house cusp you may move or spend money (2nd) on your home (4th)or purchase a home… in the end all should turn out well as next year Jupiter will conjunct your MC and the changes will be complete.
      For me this Pluto/ Uranus Square at the angle of 4th to 7th has caused much difficulty in the home, both the physical structure and relationship between spouse (7th) and son ( ruler of 5th at 7th house cusp)…Pluto rules my second and I am spending lots of $$$ restoring damage to my home. Also has my second Saturn return ( conjunct NN square in 2nd Pluto to 11th natally ) this year…I am waiting for the cavalry to arrive as I will have my Jupiter return conjunct the transiting north node in the 12th this coming January… I need a break !!!

  85. I had Pluto transit my 12th, 1st (Moon,Uranus) to 2nd (Mars, Merc, Venus, Sun, Neptune). Ummm. Life has always had challenges, but being a Scorpio rising and freewheeling Sag they had been stuff I had been used to. Looking back at childhood, in my 12th – bad accident as a kid, lots of introspection, interest in the occult, loneliness, looking into the darkness (yes even in childhood). In my 1st – it was the formidable years, but I had to deal with my family and certain abuses and look at my parents as if they were people…I grew up quickly and saw suffering everywhere in people. 2nd house conjunct my stellium and square natal pluto in 11th…ouch. Got knocked down when I tried everything to fix my marriage, problems with my job, career change, issues with friends, moved several times, got sick due to stress, tried to hide and do nothing…everything backfired. I felt defeated and abandoned, but I tried to keep my spirits up and travel and exercise. When the transit was just about finished…my only confidante, support system and friend during that time died of cancer (also a sag). I feel like I survived the odds. I feel like I aged 40 years. I’m exhausted and finally can move on.

  86. Oh wow, reading all the comments there has been some intense stuff going on. I had transiting Pluto conjunct my moon a few years ago, so I’m well aware of pluto’s strength. Now I have transiting pluto almost conjunct my MC, which will square my natal sun (on my ascendent), meanwhile Saturn will be transiting into the 9th house. Hmmm. I actually don’t want to think too much about it!! With Pluto being linked to obsessions, any suggestions how this could play out? Obsessions and phobias impact on my life in an extremely debilitating way. Pluto is in my 6th house in Libra in my natal chart.

  87. Elsa, i am frightened of what you have said of the man that had an accident in the motorcycle, i have mars conjunct my dc natally but from my 6 th house. An now pluto is conjuncting my mars (have just passed for the first time) and is now at 0°19 of my dc (still hasn t passed exactly but is going to, soon).

  88. I am just reading horrible stories about pluto transiting the angles in the natal chart. Life cannot be made to make this transits just destroy you. Life is not that negative. Please answer me.

    • Pluto is a neutral planet. It is not a malefic like Mars or Saturn. With that in mind, the changes are what you make of them. Do not fight Pluto or you will feel the negative part. Just let the changes happen and go with the flow. Pluto is often labeled as destructive but that is needed for the better working of Pluto which is the foundation of a re birth.
      Pluto/ Mars is high energy and, as such, can be dangerous but it doesn’t always mean an accident. Sixth is also everyday work, pets, diet, exercise, etc… you could have conflicts or power struggles in these areas, perhaps as related to work. This is the most likely event as the 4th/10th axis is stimulated by Pluto. Both houses will feel that friction.
      Absent an active 8th and 12th house, death is unlikely. With Pluto in Capricorn at the DC, if there was an accident you would probably break a bone (Capricorn) in the upper Torso ( 4th). Focus on the 4/10 axis though as to what positive energy you can contribute there…use the Mars. This will help to avoid negative manifestations…nothing is fated – all your choices.
      Take a look at my other comments ( bob or bob d). I have been through several major Pluto transits and Arcs in my lifetime and they all ended up working out for the best. Best of luck to you

      • Oh wow!!! Whenpluto hit my DC I was in an abusive relationship with a narcissist and had stopped studying astrology and anylising my chart. Had I looked at my mars which is 2nd house in sag I would have defended myself and my beliefs/possessions which he also destroyed or pawned. I lost my house and almost my life! He also broke 3 of my ribs and my cheekbone! Pluto is now transiting my fourth and I’m,iving with my mother looking for a home that I can renovate.

  89. I am the original poster of this. I went through it. Definite changes. I now have it opposing my natal sun from the 1st to the 7th. I really hope it is not going to be difficult but I have an inkling of what is going on. So far I just got engaged and am planning on moving to another state with my fiance. I have lived in the same place for 16 years so this is actually very good change for me and I embrace. I just know the way pluto is, very transformative and this seems transformative to me, but it’s a happy thing. From what I know the more you fight the more difficult it is. For me, I have been wanting change for a long time so am ready to take the leap.

  90. Thanks Elsa and bob d on. I dont know how to post a chart but I was born on may 5 th 1986 9 45 am in La Ceiba Honduras.

  91. Death doesnt worry me. But the story of Elsa of the man of the motorcycle along with other stories relating them to transits of pluto to the angles have me troubled.

  92. I am bumping this post because I would really love to read stories from the people that posted as they were going through this in 2012. How are y’all doing?
    Pluto is now retrograding back within one degree of my Midheaven. 5 FREAKIN’ HITS. And now Uranus is at my Ascendant. I feel like I can accept whatever is coming; however, I have to tell you, with the Saturn/Neptune aspect hitting my Virgo planets, I just have no strength to fight; that’s why I’ve moved into acceptance.

    • 2012 was a year that changed my life! I didn’t know what was coming until it hit. I lost a lot — a business, financial suffering, etc. It took a lot to pick myself back up and it was not easy but here I am, still standing. I can say I am better for it. I have kept to myself for almost 4 years and I am just beginning to feel like I can put the past behind me.

  93. Yeah, I’d like to read more too. Dog8818, what experiences have you had/things noticed with your midheaven hits? I’ve had one hit so far and I think I’m due for another two over the next year. I have Uranus transiting my 1st house, interestingly as it crossed my ascendant nothing and I mean nothing of note happened, I didn’t even get a haircut – nothing changed in my identity/self or my outlook, and that’s o.k, however I was surprised because in the past Uranus has dealt me some pretty intense surprises, none were easy for me.

  94. Interesting, Pluto crossed my ascendant when I was pregnant with my first child and moved back to my childhood home right after his birth. The deal was I could live there pay the bills and when my father came to town he would stay with me. Well anyway, I always say I made a deal with the devil because he spends months at a time with me and my family and just feel like I have no freedom and just keep rehashing that if I only worker harder and wasn’t so stupid I wouldn’t have to live like this. I think what did I do to my life. Then add a divorce on top of it. I just don’t like my life, I’m not the person I was. This Pluto thru the 1st house is brutal. My second house cusp is 23 I still have several of years left. Sorry for complaining, I’m just so unhappy all the time.

  95. Maybe I’m using the wrong house system (Placidus)…..?
    Pluto has been exact on my MC for the last few months (moving away with the RX) and I haven’t had anything too negative or challenging happen. I did change careers about 1.5 yrs ago but it was a welcome change and it has made my life better so far.
    However in the equal house system, it won’t hit my MC for 18 more degrees, so maybe I still have it coming?
    I normally use Placidus bc it resonates more, so is it possible that for this transit Equal is more accurate? Is it “ok” to change house systems like that?
    I’d rather the transit be happening now bc so far at least, I can deal, and I actually LIKE what’s happening. I mean, I definitely have challenges and struggle but I can feel it all moving me in a positive direction.

      • Got it?? I’m going to take a look at my chart as a whole again with the Equal system and see if there’s any new revelations. Otherwise I guess I can maybe chalk it up to the fact that the transit is not over yet. I’ll check back in here near the end of it to add if necessary ?

  96. This is my second time – over my Ascendant when I was in my 20’s ( stumbling around in the dark…) – now that it’s in my 4th, I can understand what it’s about – feel like I’ve been stripped down, the scales have fallen, and I can see clearly again ( like being back in my 8-year-old self, before all the hormonal stuff blinded me…..) – it’s Great!

  97. I had to go back and look to see when Pluto cross those major points and found that it would have crossed my ascendant in 1974 and my IC in 2011. For ascendant, that would have been the year I was 12 and our family moved to a new school district where I had to more or less figure out who I was in a new environment. Pluto also crossed my IC in 2011, which was when my mother, who was my last surviving parent, passed away. It has definitely been a new world since then if only because there is something powerful about becoming the “senior generation” in the immediate family.

  98. Pluto conjoined my ASC and sextiled & squared my MC before but it was when I was very young so I don’t remember much about what the experience except for the square back when I was a junior/senior in HS.

    However I have a 5x Pluto trine MC coming up once in 2017, 3x times in 2018 and a final time in 2019. Perfect timing because I’m planning a big career move which is taking me out of my comfort zone but I know it’s absolutely the right move. I also wonder if it might be when I get married and have children since the MC is also about social status like marriage and parenthood. I have other transits and progressions indicating marriage and parenthood too that’s why I was thinking about it.

  99. When Pluto crossed my DSC it also squared my natal Pluto. My divorce became final. Prior to that my younger brother died and it triggered in me that life was too short to be living like this. I had been threatening divorce for a while. I also, left a secure job and changed jobs 3x before I settled into something that fit only to find that they were going bankrupt and when they merged w/ another firm everything came together for me. Then my father died too.

  100. Thanks for your stories…here’s mine. I have natal pluto opposite venus which is tough enough but transiting pluto is approaching my cappy descendant and in 8 months I have: ended a significant relationship. Married a family friend. Started going to the gym and seeing my body change. Started seeing a pluto opposite sun man – in secret (of course)..and I have never experienced the like (my only consolation is,neither has he). If you’d told me what my life would be like now I would have laughed like a loon. Now I feel like a loon…It all started when I just had ENOUGH of my nice,safe,predictable relationship…I almost felt something break inside. Took me months to break it off properly though. All while trying to assert some sort of independence and break away from my cancer ascendant security,moon in 2nd house conjunct saturn issues…not over yet. Not for a while.

    • An update on my pluto transit: since writing that I’ve lost my house,lived in a sports hall with a communal bathroom, had my car broken into, and there’s more but I’d get too depressed if I went into more detail. Did I eat babies alive in a past life?

  101. Pluto will be crossing my infant’s mc in the next few months. He was born with it one degree past his mc but has since retrograde. Any ideas what might be in store? I’m hoping for some major life changes this coming year (new job, relocation).

  102. Pluto over DSC!
    This year in January Pluto for the first time crossed my Capricorn DSC 16’41. A month before exact conjunction I went over all Europe to study in different country for exchange semester (4 months). Here I met a guy in my university group, who has heavy Pluto influence in his chart. He is very possessive, but also very loving. He has changed big time my approach to relationships and in general all the thoughts about that. I have learned so much with him about relationships and he makes and helps me grow every day. But this hasnt been and easy path, it is very plutonic. I feel like phoenix burning and rising from ashes. And it happens a lot – this burning. But it is all for the better, im burning my old paradigms and my old walls I have build between me and people. (I havent had boyfriend for 8 years, I was just one night stand girl, who didnt want anyone, but now all that is swiped out of me, and in a hard way, if im not letting go of it on my own).
    Turns out he had eyes on me since the first day he saw me in classes. He is nothing I have ever met before and I was so amazed by him, like he is everything I have ever wanted. The time we spent together was amazing. We naturally and quickly became close and within sort period of time and started to think about how we could be together after my studies ends here. After 4 months I went back to my home country. We had some arguments and thoughts about that this cant work out. (Pluto had started to move retrograde direction and was coming back to cross my DSC back to 6th house). Pluto crossed retrograde my DSC for the second time. We spent month apart and then decided spend summer together at country my dad lives (my parents are seperated). We spent together 1 and 1/2 months (the idea was to move in already together in his country after summer), but then again in summer our relationship got shaky and HE decided to take a break, so he can get back home and think everything through if he still wants to be with me despite our arguments all summer and incompatibilities, which was a really hard on my mind, but I agreed to give him time and space. We went back to our home countries. After few days apart he already realized that he wants me in his life.
    So after 2 months apart (which we spent communicating through internet) I packed my bags and moved to his country to live and see. He is still young and he lives with his parents, Im 5 years older. He doesnt work, so for now we are still staying with his parents till we find something to live in. That was one of his reasons for our breakup, that he is not ready for such a big responsibility of me moving. (He met me when transit Neptune was crossing his Saturn; and actually my Saturn is conjuncted my DSC, so all this time also Pluto was crossing my Saturn). So we both have this time I guess issues in our minds and chaning stability and structures of life. Neptune makes him confused.
    But now lets see.. Pluto will transit my DSC for the last time in 24th of December. So Christmas night sounds like will be something grand scale. Have no idea what to wait for, but time will show. But I guess it has to be something grand, because Pluto is leaving my 6th house forever then.

  103. It’s been interesting reading these – my angles are the tail end of 17 degrees (Libra Asc), so I’m very much in the eye of the storm. The other night, when Pluto entered 17 Cap, I was physically vomiting and had this stream of conscious thing about how nothing mattered, especially not marriage or kids status, job title or property ownership, because when I die I’ll just be thankful for living, for loving and for nature. I’ve recently found myself without a job or home or partner, and I’m due to be bereaved very soon (they are end stage COPD). But weirdly since ‘vomit night’ I feel like true power comes from within, and this weird time is allowing me to transform inside out. But I might not feel that way in a few weeks!! Anyway, thanks folks!!

  104. Pluto will be on my 22 deg dsc in Cap soon.

    What has happened? I cut the family relationship crap out of my life. And I mean CUT IT. I mean not speaking and totally ignoring a couple of folks that have taken me to the bank and back for years. It wasn’t hard either. I just got up one day and stopped answering the phone. Some dramatics went on after….they rushed to my Mothers house and screamed and yelled (they never visit my poor mother who would love to see them more often…this was the only way they could pass a message) (the message was…we are never talking to her again LOL…funny)

    I thought if I ever did such a thing I would be in torment and overwhelming pain. I was forced to do it. I had no choice. And, I don’t loose a minutes worth of sleep over it.

    Right out of left field when I thought I should take another approach yet another ignorant thing happened and I was done. We teach people how to treat us. I have been so sick…for months and months and during that time they pulled back their energy and left me to drop dead. This, after giving them almost every dime I had earned for years to keep them afloat.

    I don’t know if I did this, or Pluto did it, but it needed to be done years ago. I just absolutely couldn’t do it for years. Then one day….total amputation. Its going to take a miracle for me to ever get involved in that again. And they are going to have to have respect for the people that love them the most.

    Has this caused me pain. Some, as there are more people than the adults involved to consider. But, there will be no more hostage situations in my life. They are adults and if I am ever involved with them again its going to have to be on an adult level, no games, no drunken rants filled with alcohol stupidity, and there will be NO more giving of time and money only to be talked about like shit.

    Both of them should feel lucky I took this route. I actually wanted to sue them both …that is how bitter I had become. And, I know I would have won somewhere around 12-20 thousand dollars back. I didn’t go that far….go ahead, rob me blind, but you will never treat me like a piece of dirt again.

    I hear they are falling apart at the seams without the energy, time and money I was freely handing over. Oh well. They need to grow up.

    This may be a mistake on my part of monumental proportions. I may be sorry someday….but it doesn’t feel like it. I feel free, I feel good, I feel like my heath is coming back to me and I feel stronger than I have in years. I feel like I wish I’d had the courage to do it years ago.

    I don’t even miss them. I thought I would.

  105. I just took a minute to look back on what Pluto has done in my life.

    I was shocked at what I found. It was April 1972 and my mother accused me of having sex. I was 14 years old. I had not had sex nor was I even at a place where I would have thought to have sex yet. I was mortified at the suggestion.

    Now I realize she was just fishing for information. She used to act like she knew something we did. Like she was informed by someone. Then, the guilty person would give it up. But, I was not guilty. In fact, for the first time in my life I was sick of this game. And, I was pissed.

    Try to imagine an 85-90 pound tiny little thing that did what she was told and was pretty shy actually. Afraid almost all the time. Afraid of so many things.

    She accused me of this on a Saturday. I went to school on Monday morning and with a girlfriend took off….and actually ran away. I was the kid on the milk carton for three days. They had no idea where I was or even if I was dead or alive.

    My friend and I hitch hiked and from where I live got pretty far….all the way to Kansas City. We were stupid kids…we were going to California and never coming back. We each had a bag with one outfit. A tooth brush….and about $3 dollars each. When I think about it I get scared for the younger me. Anything could have happened to us.

    It was on that day I grew some balls. I had absolutely had it with raising her kids, belt whippings for something one of my sisters did, and accusations about things I would never do. I was a good kid. I was never in trouble. Never in trouble at school. Really shy unless I knew someone.

    We got into a semi and he took us pretty far. When we got into the city at Kansas city he wasn’t going to let us out. I was sitting by the door….and I pressed my back against it and started kicking him with all my heart. When he got to a red light and had to stop….I jumped and my best friend jumped behind me. We ran into a McDonalds. And, he drove away. But, he called the police. Probably to save his own ass ….thinking we would report him. That hadn’t crossed our minds.

    Later, we were walking along a sidewalk when the police came and picked us up. I flat refused to tell them who we were. But, my Pisces pal gave up quick and gave them our names. Back then they issued an APB (all points bulletin) for missing kids….(no computers) and we were listed in 5 states. Kansas being one of them. So, they called our parents. And, they drove out to get us.

    I thanked God my Step dad came to get me. I knew what was waiting at home. I was going to be beaten within an inch of my life.

    My Step-dad and I walked in. My mother was standing there with the belt in hand. My Step-dad told her….lay one finger on her and your next. She walked away. He saved me.

    That incident changed the relationship my mother and I had forever. She never hit me again. And, she actually acted like she was glad to have me there with her. I never acted out again. I never did anything wrong after. I was never in trouble ever. But, for the first time and the last I stood toe to toe with my mother and she didn’t win that time.

    Today when she speaks of it, it breaks my heart because she was devastated and scared to death thinking I was abducted and could be dead. My sisters said she screamed and cried and wailed and screamed and cried and walked the floors ….I love my mother. I cant believe I hurt her like that. And, I never did again.

    The day I left Pluto was at zero degrees in my 4th (where I have a stellium in Scorpio) and almost sq my natal Saturn. Tran. Uranus was conj my NN and the moon was almost exactly on top my Natal Neptune in Scorpio.

    I guess my point is, every large moment in my life included a Pluto transit. It may kill me someday but in the mean time while most of us fear a Pluto transit, each time I have had one it did steamroll me but I was stronger and a better version of myself ….with every single transit.

    That which does not kill us……….

  106. Indeed, when Pluto hit the bottom of my chart, my parents divorced. I was 5 1/2- 6 years old. That one scarred me for life. I know a lot of kids get over it easily, but it pretty much destroyed me and my entire childhood because I was left with an abusive mom and no dad…actually a suicidal dad when I did get to see him. I’ve got Pluto natally opposite my Venus.

  107. Mine was pretty mild in terms of stuff happening in real life. I had Pluto cross the ascendant in 2009 and that’s when I found this blog. I was struggling with past trauma for several years and very confused about it, but when Pluto crossed my ascendant, I was able to start getting some clarity on my experience. I did “surgery” on myself via astrology over the next few years and was able to rewire myself. My wires got crossed growing up.

  108. When Pluto transited into my 4th, I had a pretty serious depressive episode, one that eventually saw me divorce my family (or they me, you could say). I was misdiagnosed, told I had a variety of different diseases. Started to shut in, not leave my house. It ruined my career (but then, Mars is also on the cusp of my 7th. So the whole thing was pretty violent). I got pneumonia. I also moved to a new home. It was a brutal, nightmarish time, which I’m glad to be done with. Also glad that I probably won’t see Pluto conjunct my Desc. Don’t ever want to do that again. But it did, over time, make me review my relationship with my really dysfunctional family, which, in the end, was useful, and the reason all of the above manifested.

  109. In 1994, Tr Pluto crossed my MC. Active “Parent Volunteer” at my kids’ school was another label added to my public identity.

  110. Using equal houses, nothing happened when Pluto crossed my Descendant except that I met a Virgo woman who became very important to me later on. Using Placidus houses, Pluto crossed my Descendant 3 times, due to retrograde motion. The first time I became ill with polio, but recovered without problem. the second time, we moved to another State, the 3d time I am not sure about.

  111. I had PLuto cross my MC 3 years ago at the same time Uranus had passed my ASC and Mars was on my DESC. Oh, what unlovely times. It felt like in the space of 2 weeks my whole life fell apart. I didn’t lose my job but it was a really critical time and I ended up as the responsible and guilty person even though I wasn’t and my boyfriend finally passed over my tolerance level so I left. I picked up the pieces in the months that followed and felt both happy and free but at the time it was happening, all I could do was live one day at a time.
    Oh, and that is counting MC with equal houses. I would have to check what happened when it was over 5 degrees Capricorn to see if it influenced my life then.

  112. Pluto was on my MC 4 Sag in 1997 opposing my Sun. i was 21. That was the final call to become a psychotherapist and to take less visited ways of development. Before that Pluto was opposing my Chiron 29 Aries and my Taurus Stellium – SN, Moon, Jupiter, Venus Mercury Vesta Pallas.inner pain pushed me tostudy the occult and astrology as a child during this long passage transit, got my mother involved in spiritual change, changed my religion, started my own psychotherapy. Pluto on my MC defined my profession, it was like compltion of the cycle.
    Pluto on my AC – 5 Aquarius that may be quite a challenge.

  113. When Pluto & Saturn conjoined exactly on my IC back in the early 80’s, my father walked out on our family for another woman and my mom and I were left impoverished and homeless and moved around for a number of years. I was only a toddler at the time my parents’ marriage dissolved so it really set the precedent for the rest of my childhood foundation as all of home life was unstable. Especially after my mother descended into crippling mental illness right around the time Pluto in Scorp conjunct my natal Uranus in the 4th (and never recovered).

    And in typical Plutonic fashion, every single childhood home I lived in, including even the tiny town I was born in, no longer exist because they were all torn down or destroyed somehow. There’s no revisiting my roots or even my family because they’re entirely disbanded. My childhood was almost entirely shaped by Pluto’s destruction. I’m thankful to have survived that time because of the strength and resilience it endowed me with but never, ever want to redo it either. I’m super thankful for my current family unit and work as hard as I can to provide stability for my kids (Mars in Taurus, 10th)

  114. In a few years Pluto will cross my 2 degrees Aquarius MC (Equal). I checked the transits for a person I know, and he currently has Pluto in their 12th. His ascendant is in late Capricorn so soon Pluto will cross it. Saturn is also about to enter his 12th. The majority of his planets are in the 10, 11 and 12 houses. On the surface he’s doing all right, finishing his studies abroad… I don’t know if I should say something to him in case he is secretly going through a hard time to let him know it will pass.

  115. Well, I just got fired from my job of 6 years. Looked at my chart and sure enough Pluto is transiting my IC which is also conjunct my NN.

  116. Have had the Outers travelling alongside me my whole life – have never felt I belonged anywhere – this is the second time Pluto’s crossed an Angle ( been in 4th House for a few years now). Am used to feeling like an Outsider/ Exile now, I suppose.

  117. Pluto is nearly conjuncting my IC, next year will. I´m terrified. Solar Return, progressions and solar arc seem to join forces just to show me how hard life is. I don´t know what will happen, but it doesn´t seem good. SR Mars will be in 12th combust Ascendant Squaring Uranus in 3rd (car crash?). Saturn in 11th nearly entering 12th (mourning?)

  118. All you can do is keep putting one foot in front of the other and you’ll get through it in the end….whatever happens during it….and you Will feel you just can’t do it at times…but it does all pass – and you’ll wonder how you survived it…..but you will…one way or another….

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