Pluto, Black Moon Lilith, And Being A Nasty-Ass Bitch

Pluto Glyph“And if you EVER try something like that again. I will KILL YOU!”
–Patsy Stone, Absolutely Fabulous

This weekend was interesting. Pluto trined Mars, Mercury and Venus and squared Black Moon Lilith. Interestingly, Lilith was also on my 8th house natal Lilith to the degree. It’s been quite the time, let me tell you. I lie in bed at night and try to think of something besides slapping people. I think of the self defense video guy, “elbow to the head, elbow to the head, knee to the groin, knee to the groin.”

I know how to hold it together though. I made it though most of the week while this was constellating without anyone being the wiser. I knew I had a funeral coming up Saturday so I had other 8th house fish to fry. In addition, I’ve always had the feeling that if I ever let loose with the slapping I’ll wind up in jail. I’m pretty sure that’s true.

Pluto square my 8th house Lilith has been onerous. I keep waiting for “the dirty bitch” to show up. I keep expecting to run afoul of a dark-sided woman. I keep waiting for my mother to lose her shit on me. It didn’t happen. What did happen is that my man decided it was more important to see Smokey Robinson in concert than to attend my family funeral. Oh yeah, the nasty-ass bitch showed up; she was ME.

I’m not in jail, there was no slappage, but that’s only because he had the sense to stay away. A local friend of mine’s significant other was not so smart. Lilith is conjuncting her Chiron currently. They were out on the town and got into a fight. He called her a fat c*** and she dropped him with a kick to the balls.

My significant other is walking just fine today but he’s out in my yard doing hard time. Penance. This isn’t something I’ve tried before but it’s probably better than than violence. More work done, less jail time, a new way to be a bitch, I guess, for my Lilith return. I think Lilith in the chart, well-handled, is the best of our inner bitch. She’s the energy we can go to when all else fails and we have to get primal.

I told the man about what the other guy said. He said, “wow, I would never call a woman that.” I said, “what, the C word?” only I said it, and he nodded. “You can call me that all you want, just don’t call me fat. That’ll get you killed.”

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Pluto, Black Moon Lilith, And Being A Nasty-Ass Bitch — 41 Comments

  1. It’s exactly conjunct my Mars, satori, as well as square my Moon and I had noooooo idea. Perhaps I should be tracking Lilith considering she’s conjunct my chart ruler Jupiter.

    No man of mine calls me names. Period. I won’t stand for it. I don’t call names either. It’s part of my code.

  2. Oh how I love this pic even better than the poodle pic. t. lillith is conj my n. eris and they are squaring my crappy moon. Never mind the fact that this mars mash up is directly opposite my natal mars.

    Yes it has been an interesting mix of emotions and actions.

    BTW you always show so much grace under fire/pressure.

  3. Hmmm, square my juno. Where pluto is right now. I made my guy delete a girl that I hate off of my facebook. Only because he made me delete someone for a stupid reason. Oh and I’ve been thinking about getting back at this girl. I must sound so psycho, but a blow for a blow..

  4. satori re. your post, do you think you are being s nasty-assed bitch? It just doesn’t look like that from this vantage point but I don’t know if I understand correctly

  5. My poor juno, being transited by Pluto, squared by BML. Holding it together well though. No relationship to be taking the heat. Who knows, maybe the Pluto transit will change that…..?

  6. It’s conjunct my Jupiter, square Saturn, opposed Pluto, hitting my t-square from the 5th.

    I was thinking just yesterday, that I had the strong urge to kick someone where it hurts, and I don’t often have that urge. Lilith is conjunct my mars natally, and BML is in my 5th in Pisces. I’m normally to nice, but I’ve been called a man-hater by a certain young woman whose boyfriend had not only made a pass at me (and then called me delusional), but then declared his undying love for me, only to blame it on alcohol and food poisoning. I hated his guts because of what he was doing to her, and she blamed me, calling the very idea of his being in love with me “ridiculous”. Sweet.

  7. It’s conjunct my husband’s Venus in Aries. He referred to his ex as a fat, lazy psycho…in front of his kids. He has never done that before. He apologized to them right away. I think they understand that he’s feeling very angry over something she did just before the weekend.
    I’ve never been called a name or been sworn at by a boyfriend or ex-husband or by my current husband. Respect is very important to me. If my guy called me anything as crass as a fat c***, my marriage would be over as far as I was concerned. I’d walk.

  8. Kashmiri… I was. in my opinion. choice words were spoken. whether or not they were warranted is up for interpretation.

  9. Lilith is in the 7th house about 9ΒΊ of the 8th house… and is in the start of a P.Fortune conjunction in the 7th house.

    it is in a sextile with my Natal Lilith on the 9th.
    Opposing my Natal Pluto end of 1st

    It makes my fire Grand Trine as it…
    Trine my Natal Saturn on the 12th
    Trine my Natal Neptune on the 4th

  10. DUDE! This weekend sucked monkey butts. I came very,very close to calling my father’s girlfriend a bitch. It still may happen.

    My saturn is in aries and my descendent is aries.

    Ugh

  11. Neato. It’s smack on my Sun. I don’t feel so much like a bitch as a woman who doesn’t feel obligated to please a man. You remember what Lilith got in trouble for… The attitude is being rewarded handsomely for some reason.

    So sorry you’re having a rough and dark time of it. Having my man choose Smokey, even Smokey, over a family Big Deal might result in penance much worse than yard work. You sound strong and sensible.

  12. Hmmm… My Natal Moon is at 9 degrees Aries & Ceres at 13 degrees, both in the Fourth. I don’t know what this means, so back to the drawing board as usual.
    @Satori… I think it’s a good thing that you let fly a little. Had you just done the usual Pisces thing & bitten your lip, that energy could have exploded in a much worse way. Besides, that was a sh*tty thing for him to do =(
    I realise this must be a strange & foreign feeling for you… hang in there!! ((x))

  13. conjunct my Aries, in 8th house and square my moon; hehe no wonder i have been not willing to be the all smilling, agreable person when dealing with some old issues regarding my partnerships…wow ! Yay Lil thanks for ooomph !!!

  14. PS: Satori sorry for your loss,may your loved one be at peace, and may you too find peace through the sadness xx

  15. Haha I love the story!

    UMM. Just transited my natal North Node in the 10th house. I wonder if in the past few weeks my lillith stuff (anger, female sexuality) have been on show to the world?! What kinds of things or ‘evidence’ should I be looking for, to help make astrology relevant to real life experience?

  16. If Lilith is now at 7 degrees Aries it’s moving into a conjunction with my natal Lilith in the tenth opposite Pluto in the fourth.

    I have to think about who the bitch is in my life at the moment. It’s probably me, and I think i have to bring out the best of my inner bitch as you call it, especially at work where the situation is daunting at the moment, and start defending what’s sacred to me: my independance. I don’t want to start killing people in the process though…

  17. I have no earthly idea what’s been going on in my astrology chart, within the last past two weeks the bitch came out and 4 close so-called friends I’m not talking to right now. Fu** each and every one of them!

    Can someone perhaps share with me what may be going on with my chart below. Thank you!

  18. Kahlil Gibran (my favorite quotation):

    β€œYour pain is the breaking of the shell that encloses your understanding.”

    DEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  19. Lillith is unique in my chart. It appears to be the only ‘planet’ I have that is completely unaspected.

    Geez Louise, you just had e a death in the family. Where’s the compassion for yourself, girl? {hugs}

  20. Lilith is one scary bitch.
    I had dealings with her recently myself that culminated with the recent full moon in scorpio. I mean, I wanted to literally castrate every male that crossed my path the week prior to the full moon. The weekend before that was stressful making it even better. But..on Tuesday morning May 17th at about 5:30 ish in the morning eastern time, Ox decides to throw a temper tantrum because he can’t find a work uniform shirt.

    Josi is in no way amused at 5:30ish in the morning no matter what dang day it is with a middle aged man throwing a temper tantrum over something like this in the first place..but on a Scorp full moon..during a lilith transit..uh no.

    I let him proceed to throwing his fit which included busting the door on this cheap wardrobe thing I use to keep pet blankets in. All the while, lilith is mentally going through her knife location check list. I stand in the doorway and wait for the dust to settle sipping my coffee. Ox looks up at me. he’s spent..tantrum over. I say, “When I come home, if there is a trace of memory in this room (and it was totally trashed) about what just happened this morning I am going to need you to step outside with me on the driveway because I do not want to get blood on my rugs.”

    He tried rebuttle which was met with..”so..you don’t want to wait until this evening then” as I’m digging through my keychain for the one that unlocks the gun safe.

    All was fixed when I got home from work that day..not a trace.

    I know what the thoughts in my head were that day. I have officially met Lilith. LOL
    She’s moving from my first into my second house right now and natally she is in 9th house Scorpio.

  21. Josi – I LOVE that!!!!

    I wish I had that kind of ooomph. From a lot of the descriptions here, Lilith is just the kind of girl to get things done, and get treated with respect in the process.

  22. @Josi I am LMAO! I can completely picture every step of that in my head.

    I had a moment a few minutes ago. We have a grocery store where the clerks are just miserable. They hate us, their jobs, and everything else. What genius employs people like this?

    I am going back to full service grocery stores that deliver (Thank you Safeway) because I am not currently medicated for other peoples protection.

  23. Siddiyas: Pluto is squaring your 7th your Aries Saturn. You like to be in control of your life, and perhaps by extension this means your relationships (7th). Friends are not playing by the rules (Capricorn) so they’re getting the axe (Pluto). Is this a rash Aries decision? Did the stellium in Aries shake it all up?

    BTW Hopefully you can take your chart to the boards because more people will see it that way. Good luck!

  24. All thungs being equal, what do you think would be the effect of transiting BML conjunct a male’s natal Saturn in the 12th opposite natal Juno with BML rising natally?

  25. male or female we all have yin and yang energies. I would think that what you describe would be a subconscious reprocessing of the dark yin, in general and in yourself, in preparation for the BML return. preparing for a new realization of how that energy expresses in yourself.

  26. Kashmiri,

    Thank you! Of course, an Aries impulsive decision. I suppose the stellium Aries did shake it up, but I believe the stellium Taurus was just as potent in the process of my rash decisions. Now I know some of what is going on with me. WOW!

    I’m just tired of people taking advantage of me and I get no returned favors in the process. Like I said before they all can *uck off. Right now, I want to be a nasty ass bitch sad to say, but true. However, I am forgiving others and myself in spite of the bull—-.

  27. I have it in Aries too conjuct moon.. I can remember this one time me and my husband and one of my girlfriends were out for dinner and I ordered a slice of cheesecake, and he said are you really going to have dessert? Implying that I shouldn’t.. oh my gosh, hell to the know!! He couldn’t understand why I was soo upset! Don’t tell me what to eat ever!

  28. Josi, you crack me up. πŸ™‚ and I love the way you write- I could picture it all, too.

    Just thinking about the guys that have been brought my way: I was stretched out on the couch last August, after pacing and venting about the utter *jokes* that have been specifically brought to me. Who in the hell blames a declaration of love, on alcohol and *food poisoning*? Let alone the other jerks. I was agoraphobic for years, and this guy first made a pass at me when I was 27 and getting over it/getting out a bit. I was specifically trying to avoid men like him, and instead, I had more than one delivered to my doorstep- even though god/the universe/whatever, knew exactly what I wanted in a man. I thought taurus was good and sweet, and then he did a 180.

  29. Sneaking up on my Chiron, filling out that cardinal T square to make it a grand cross.

    *rolls shoulders, cracks neck* I’m getting good at this.

  30. Luckily for my hubby, he’s been on his best behavior and my inner bitch hasn’t been needed.

    Lilith is just 3 degrees past my Aries Sun in the 5th. I’ve been getting some pressure to pursue a design job for ‘an all boys club’ (Fire department) that I’ve worked with in the past. It’s a lucrative project, but I’m committing myself to only those jobs that ‘inspire’ me and this one doesn’t.

  31. Lilith and Mercury in Aquarius with Mars, Venus, Neptune, Ceres, Vertex, North Node and Uranus all in Capricorn – 8th house dwellers.

    ” You shouldn’t be insulting someone when they’re holding a knife, kithcen or no kitchen. ”
    Ahem, so to speak.

  32. Found this when looking for Pluto-BML aspects– so I’m late to the party (by a couple of years) but nonetheless the conversation is still interesting (and funny!)– make sure to check out famed songwriter Diane Warren, who calls people she doesn’t even KNOW “C”s (I wonder where her BML is!). The story of how she pitched a song to songstress Paloma Faith is hilarious. But back to Lilith and Pluto, I am confused a tad — I have the asteroid Lilith in early Cancer, and Oscillating Lilith at the end of Gemini (with my Sun & ASC square Pluto, Jupiter and Uranus). So, the Lilith squares Chiron and opposes Juno & Pallas but otherwise makes nice with all else. However, news of this Osc. Lilith involved with my Sun Asc Pluto Jupiter Uranus came as a shock, kind of like discovering a mistress in my chart LOL Anyway, in your opinion do you even count this Osc. Lilith?

  33. In my experience, barring an abusive situation, when someone gets called the c word, the person usually did at least one thing to deserve it.

  34. I have this Black Moon Lilith opposing my sun & Pluto Square Lilith. 4 Deg Orb. Opposition Sun – Lilith. This is what I found. (Still learning)

    You might worry about a friend betraying you, although your partner will undoubtedly find this person full of charm! The Moon represents the emotional responses, unconscious pre-destination, and the self-image.

    Although I mainly try to avoid conflict I can be a bitch if I have to defend myself. I also have this in Synastry with his chart. His being Sun Conjunct Lilith O Deg Orb (Sorcery & Magic Spells). I would love to know more about this Sorcery aspect.

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