What Does It Mean If Someone Has A Black Heart?

black heartI know there are people out there who know all about this subject. I’m not one of them! This is not a joke or a trick question, I want to understand this phenomena and I don’t even know what it’s called.

I am going to call it a dark heart or a black heart but I don’t know if that is the correct term. I am talking about the kind of person who is just plain nasty. I don’t know if they know they are nasty. I have no insight into this type person but I can describe what they do.

They hunt others. They look for ways to damage other people, cause them problems or denounce them. They may put people down so that they might feel better about themselves but I am not sure.

They appear to be compelled towards this behavior but I’m not sure about that either. I think we all have free will absent of some acute mental illness so a person has to elect to act in this way to some degree but I don’t know the degree. Do they realize they are predator or imagine themselves otherwise?

Typically they have their cronies. These are people they hang with who support their behavior and believe it not I don’t know anyone like this. I know of people like this and I have been targeted by people like this but I have never been friends with them because it’s just impossible.

It’s impossible because I would call them on their behavior instantly. “Why are you such a bitch?” I’d ask and I’d probably ask this on the first day.

I avoid people like this like the plague and they avoid me too, so consequently I know virtually nothing about them and I am hoping someone can help. Here are my specific questions:

If you have a (so-called) black heart, what is like? I imagine it like an addiction where you’ve got to go out and hurt someone, is this right?

If you know someone with a dark heart what can you tell me about them?
Add the astrology if you can…

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What Does It Mean If Someone Has A Black Heart? — 76 Comments

  1. Ruth and yaypopcorn have some good ideas.

    My ex has moon conjunct pluto in Virgo, in 6th house. He also has Saturn and Jupiter both retrograde in the 10th house in Capricorn. The Sun neptune opposition doesn’t help either. The venus conjunct mercury in Taurus. He always knew the right thing to say. The scary part is he also has a grand trine. Everyone sees this. Try explaining this jerk and no one sees it. It was almost like he was two different people.

    He had a brutal childhood. I think it gave him a love hate relationship with women.

    Ten months after I left him, he moved in with his third girlfriend. She kicked him out six months later. All of this while he was fighting me for custody of our kids.

  2. I know someone who has become like this. They have had some really unfortunate things happen to them and if people don’t react the way they want them to, they hunt them down with taunting text messages and emails relentlessly. They want them to know what “pussy” they are for not contacting them and ignoring them. They dont’ stop either. I feel sorry for the people on the other end who don’t understand this person…strangely we get along very well so I personally have never had this problem with them much. PLuto in Leo in the 12th, Cancer Sun in the 11th, Virgo Moon in the First and Mars in Pisces in the 7th. This person will give you the shirt of their back but if you turn yours on them…look out.

  3. Hi Elsa

    It sounds like you’re talking about Narcissistic Personality Disorder. These people can be incredibly cruel in order to get their fix of feeling superior to others. They are compulsive liars, and they will throw someone under the bus without a thought if it means feeling or appearing superior or better in some way. See, its not about the other person, or wanting to hurt the other person, its about using the other person. NPD people have virtually no self esteem. They actually loathe themselves and they need other people to use to try to make them feel better about themselves. Which is one reason why they’re not usually alone. They usually end up living or married to one victim or another. They can be quite charming and lovely if they want to be, and they will be to make people like them…..at first. But once you get to know them, they can become a freak show. I’ve known a few too. Scary people.

  4. I was friends with someone like that. He has Libra Sun, Virgo Moon, Venus in Scorpio, Pluto in Virgo, and Sag rising (from what I remember). Because his moon is in the 8th house, he instinctively knows what someone is thinking or feeling. He is very socially astute and can therefore manipulate any person or situation to whatever he wants. He is two-faced but will cut you down to your knees when he feels he has to. He has control issues and mean mommy issues that he conveniently leans on when he gets called out on (which he hates). When I started to hang out with him, a couple of people warned me about him. I stopped hanging out with him when I saw him try to break up the relationship of two friends of ours. He will stoop to conquer and it does not matter who he steps on. He needs to get his lights punched out. I hope I’m there to see it.

  5. I also know a Libra with Borderline Personality Disorder – PSYCHO. She cut me out of her life (does this often with others as well) and I’ve never been happier.

    Also dated a Taurus with Moon in Aquarius, Venus in Gemini and Mercury in Aries – he could be really cruel and cutting (Merc in Aries tend to be this way) – fortunately I stood my ground and called him out on his b.s. – which he perversely enjoyed.

  6. Negative people are like human black holes which suddenly come out of nowhere and just suck the life out of you. You try to stay positive and remain strong but their negativity ends up just completely draining you, you feel exhausted, and you may also start to feel depressed too.

    One of the first things to do is to be aware of who the negative people are in your life. This may not be as easy as you first think.

    Here’s some of the signs to look for:

    “- you experience a sense of being demeaned, constricted or attacked.
    – you intuitively feel unsafe, tense or on guard.
    – you sense prickly, off-putting vibes. You can’t wait to get away from them.
    – your energy starts to fizzle. You may feel beleaguered or ill.”

    The following are names which you might recognize: the sob sister, the blamer, the drama queen, the constant talker or joke teller, and the fixer-upper (requires endless help).

    Also, pay attention to what the person talks about. Is it always about how bad things are. Do they just complain and never actually do anything about what’s upsetting them.

    Once you have a good idea on how to recognize them then you can actually work on protecting yourself from them.

    My strategy on how to deal with negative people is
    I understand why this person is so negative. It is because they hate their job, feel frustrated, feel trapped in their life or do they lack in self esteem so the only way they can feel powerful is by hurting others. If you can understand where it’s coming from, it’s much easier to deal with. Some people seem to think that the only way they can get what they want is to be manipulative. Remember the saying, “the squeaky wheel gets the oil.” They believe this and think that if they don’t whine and complain that they won’t be heard and that this is the only way to get what they want.

    Negative behavior is a reflection of them. It tells you what kind of person they are and what issues they may be dealing with. It’s not a reflection of who you are.

    Just smile and remain completely detached
    Whenever the negative tirade starts just smile and don’t say anything. Remain completely detached from it and don’t get involved in it. Leave the room if you can. The negative person is simply seeking to get a reaction from you. That’s what they feed on. Don’t let them catch you in their web of negativity because as soon as you do, that’s when they start draining your energy.

    It’s the emotions that these negative people stir up in you that you need to learn to distance yourself from. Try just observing the whole scene. Say to yourself, “what a shame this person is so unhappy. Maybe some of my positive energy will rub off on her. If not, her unhappiness has nothing to do with me.” This isn’t always an easy thing to do but definitely a powerful technique. In order to get the full benefit from it, you need to make sure that you’re aware of what’s going on around you. It’s easy to slip into auto-pilot and not realize until later how drained you feel. You need to detach yourself from the event while it’s happening and just observe it.

    This works well for family members who you don’t really have a choice as to whether they’re in your life or not.

    Say, “Now tell me something positive.”
    Right after they’ve finished telling you some tragic story, say to them, “now tell me a positive story”. Some people have no idea how negative they’ve become. That’s what they’re surrounded by day in and day out so it’s just become a way of life for them. By being given the reminder, they may actually realize that being negative isn’t the kind of person they want to be and may start to work on becoming more positive. Or, they may decide it’s not worth telling you their horror stories because you’ll ask them to think of something positive. Sob sisters (always whining, feel the world is against them, feel they’re victims) will probably not find you very attractive anymore.

    Imagine a bright white light surrounding you
    Yes, this sounds silly but if you can do it, it’s amazing how much of a difference it can make. You’ll feel that their negativity can’t touch you because you now have a force field protecting you.

    I used to have a really nasty manager who would constantly try to make me feel like an idiot. When I had a shower in the morning, I would imagine that I was being covered with a protective oil so that any of her comments would just slide right off me. I also put up a post it note on my computer that said, “Oiyli” which stood for “Only if you let it”. It reminded me that her comments could only hurt me if I let them. If was my choice as to how to react to her.

    I find that the “universe” uses negative people as the way to get me to move on whenever I’m getting comfortable in a situation that isn’t challenging me anymore. It’s like a prod that I should be focusing more on following my dream rather than just getting caught up in a nice, comfortable routine that isn’t getting me anywhere. If I didn’t have these people, then I would probably just stay. So, sometimes I’m really grateful to these people because they’re giving me the “kick” that I need.

    Negative people want to get a reaction out of you. And the only way they can is if they hit on one your “buttons” or something that causes intense feelings for you. For example they may bring out past feelings of guilt or anger or make you feel like you’re being rejected or that you’re not good enough.

    So, if there’s one particular person who drains you the most, ask yourself why is it affecting you so much? Sometimes, you can learn a lot about yourself by analysing what feelings it’s bringing up within you. Once you figure it out and deal with it then you’ll find that the energy draining person simply has no power over you anymore.

    Trying to feel needed
    Is listening to the complaints of the negative person your way of feeling valued? Does it make you feel needed? If it does, then you need to start valuing yourself more and you’ll find that this just won’t happen anymore. Be selective about who and how you help others. Just listening to negative tales over and over helps neither of you.

    A good test to see if this is happening is to notice how you feel after “helping” someone. If you feel drained or tired or annoyed or frustrated then all you’ve done is given over your own energy to them. This isn’t beneficial to you at all, and rarely does it help them in the long run.

    Try saying, “I love you, thank you, I’m sorry” over and over. This is kind of an “off the wall” kind of theory but it’s worth a try. If you want to read an article about how a doctor healed an entire mental institution simply by saying these words then read this story of Dr. Len. You can also listen to a couple of radio interviews with him on News for the Soul.

    You’re not responsible for the person’s life nor their negativity. You don’t have to feel guilty for them being unhappy. Let go of trying to fix or help them. That’s not what they want anyway. They want your energy and so you have to be strong and not give in to them.

    A suggestion in dealing with draining co-workers is to keep mentioning to the person that you have work to do and you can only listen to them for a minute. If after a few minutes, the person is still going on about the same thing then either change the conversation or politely but firmly end the conversation.

    It’s important to be able to let go of the idea that you owe everyone a solution. With some people you just have to let them go. They have to take responsibility for their own lives and they won’t if someone is always there to fix everything for them. So, Let Go! It sounds mean but it definitely doesn’t help them if they end up taking you down with them. In that case, then neither one of you is benefitting.

    10. Be enthusiastic and focus on your own energy
    If you can be higher energy than they are then your energy will most likely start to rub off on those around you instead of the other way around. Also, the less you pay attention to them, the less they’ll affect you.

    In Summary
    “Energy Vampires” are going to appear in and out of your life. The trick is to learn how to deal with them before they appear. If you don’t then they truly will suck all your energy right out of you without you even realizing it. They will also be having a huge effect on your life and whether you’re able to achieve your dreams and goals. Learn how to deal with negative people so that as you can, “be confident that no one can drain you if you don’t cooperate”. Your life will just instantly improve.

  7. Hi I had a run in with a black heart. I actually called him a dark soul and ended up writing a book about them having had a few run ins with them over the years. I realised too after speaking to my mother that my father was a dark soul as well. From a western diagnosis point of view they would be diagnosed with sociopathy, psychopathy or NPD. My view is that they know what they are doing although the NPD person tends to do it accidentally on purpose but whereas the blackest of all of them intententional goes out to victimise right from the beginning. Once we learn how to spot a Black Heart or a Dark soul before they spot us then we are half way there .

  8. Energy Vampires and negative people are like human black holes who are going to appear in and out of our lives.

    Here’s some of the signs she says to look for:

    “- you experience a sense of being demeaned, constricted or attacked.
    – you intuitively feel unsafe, tense or on guard.
    – you sense prickly, off-putting vibes. You can’t wait to get away from them.
    – your energy starts to fizzle. You may feel beleaguered or ill.”

    Do you understand why this person is so negative? Is it because they hate their job, feel frustrated, feel trapped in their life or do they lack in self esteem so the only way they can feel powerful is by hurting others? If you can understand where it’s coming from, it’s much easier to deal with. Some people seem to think that the only way they can get what they want is to be manipulative. Remember the saying, “the squeaky wheel gets the oil.” They believe this and think that if they don’t whine and complain that they won’t be heard and that this is the only way to get what they want.

    The trick is to learn how to deal with them before they appear. If you don’t then they truly will suck all your energy right out of you without you even realizing it. They will also be having a huge effect on your life and whether you’re able to achieve your dreams and goals. Learn how to deal with negative people and be confident that no one can drain you if you don’t cooperate”. Your life will just instantly improve.

  9. These people are sociopaths, and yes I’ve had a run in with one. She is an aquarius and is an extremely jealous and envious person. She’s a pathological liar, and is a master at covering her tracks to make it look as though her victim is the one who attacked her.

  10. Several people have nailed this – and yes I have extensive experience having been brought up by one – my adoptive mother. She was NPD verging on Sadistic Personality Disorder, and I could spend the rest of the night listing textbook examples from her behaviour.

    Everything revolved around her – she had to dictate everything, be the centre of everything, and it was much more than selfishness, it was ‘black hole’ behavior which often veered itno crueetly, especially towards me. this was not only due to personality clashes from earliest childhood – it was also because I had [have] a handicap which she took as a personal insult.

    She later tried to treat my nephew, who suffered slight brain damage at birth, int he same manner – which resulted in her never seeing either of her grandchildren again. She hated all little boys anyway, for whatever reason. In general she took great delight in manipulating people, anbd esp in turning them against each others – especially family members. She spent years trying to stop my sister marrying, then trying to break up her marriage. I could go on and on… And yes, she was always belittling other people to big herself up.

    Why was she like this? God knows! She came from an extended loving family who nevertheless had lost their immense wealth in circumstances of some disgrace which I know always preyed on her (it offended her sense of entitlement!). Her father went off to fight in WWI when she was only two, and there was another baby soon after he got back – and history has it this new daughter who looked just like him was his favourite. Photos of my mother as a child show her always with a twisted mouth, down-turned, with a petulant, sulky and miserable expression, one wonders why? Were the staff unkind? Did one of them abuse her? – who knows. She certainly had all kinds of hang-ups inc about sex.

    Certain signs keep coming up in this thread and her astrology echoes that in part (No birthtime but I do know place of birth):

    Libra Sun
    Aries Moon
    Sun conjunct MC within 2 degrees
    Pluto and Saturn almost exactly conjunct – within .01 of a degree – in Cancer (and she certainly made home a hell for everyone)
    Mars and Mercury conjunct in Scorpio, less than 1 degree
    Jupiter and Uranus conjunct in Aquarius – you never knew who would get out of bed int he morning, or who would be on the end of the phone…
    Neptune exactly on the cusp of Leo 0.02 degrees
    Juno in Leo – she wore the trousers and actually beat up my Libra Dad, not just verbally…

    If she is Sag rising which I suspect – she had no diplomacy at all – then her Leo Neptune would be on the cusp of the 8th house.

  11. The other really nasty person I know (who I’d also put down as NPD) is a Scorpio Sun. I can’t remember his birthday – it’s round about now

    He’s a painter who distorts people’s personal lives to make his cartoonish paintings – they have no artistic merit but sell well enough to their ‘subjects’ make him a living. Being quite ugly he dresses in eccentric manner to make himself interesting – it’s also a kind of disguise. He spent years trying to destroy my life, after many attempts to get me into bed over several years. Others have many stories to tell of his spite and callousness.

    Like all NPD people, he can be very charming when he chooses and also very amusing, often at the expense of others

  12. Oh! PinkMinxxx, I remember Sam V., he was a hot topic of discussion when the topic was on psychopaths and things of that nature over the summer. I remember a few people saying either he had a lot of research on the topic or that he was probably a psychopath himself, or both. Anyway, I was reading the article you linked and the name totally rang a bel. You could probably search his name here and see what I’m talking about, I hope that helps some…and that I’m not just rambling or recalling things that totally didn’t happen again. =)

  13. Seems like others have done a good job in describing this behavior, so I will omit further description. I do know two good examples of this, both are my family members and these people are both nice to outsiders (Libra rising) but operate in some very wicked, very co-dependent ways with other choice family members (who allow it for their own reasons, and this creates a sick partnership). They do create these situations, but I do not think it is fully conscious, if at all. Both of the people in question came from very bleak childhoods and I speculate that this was a way that they learned to get a little bit of power early on, when there was no other way for them to do so as children. By the time they became adults this had become habitual. Both have Sag Moons and both had very narcissitic, emotionally out-of-control mothers.

  14. My son is a text book black heart person. I don’t have time right now to read through everything here, but he does seem to pick and choose – based on who he thinks is vulnerable. He’s having a really hard time trying to get past the boundaries I’ve set up since he blew up our lives over the summer. I’ll come back and post more later.

  15. Wow! lots of good info on black heart defense . I rode horses when I was young little ponys can be cute but evil ,smart too. They will let you get in the saddle and smash you right to the ground , and trot away to do it again. I also was raised by a bully can see one a mile away , remember they are cowards turned inside out .

  16. I agree an abusive person won’t apologize but blame the victim as “too sensitive” a “crybaby” or “think skinned”.
    Love shouldn’t have to be about shielding your soul and trust from an abusive family member, loved one or friend.
    The black-hearted are abusive possibly sociopaths.
    Unfortunately, I know enough about this because I was trapped in an abusive relationship. He was charming at first. As soon as we got married- bam- overnight the charm and social graces disappeared. I was now his property and he was verbally, emotionally and phyically abusive to me.
    The man I dated was a Scorpio with Scopio Rising. Thought he was superior mentally than others and preyed on the weak.
    There was no end to his acts of depravity.
    He was looking for a submissive wife to enable him by being a cover girl, so he looked like a nice family man, or a woman who would help him lure women over to his house, apt etc…
    I felt sorry for him at first because he was adopted and physically abused by alcoholic parents, but he didn’t want to break the cycle. He wanted to feel power over others.
    He went on to date rape underage girls, even got one pregnant.
    Dated strippers and prostitutes so he could feel superior to them. God forbid any women trusts him.
    What shocked me is that his adoptive mother encouraged him to treat women like whores. She reminded me of Norman Bates mother- drunk and screaming all the time.
    It was a dark time for me and still painful, but I cannot understand to this day the love of hurting others. But, I wasn’t raised to treat people like property or garbage and he was.

  17. Unfortunately, the two Scorpio men I have dated were cruel, self-centered.
    I did have a best friend that was a Scorpio so, it’s a gamble with Scorpios. It depends if they are emotionally mature or not.

  18. I was in a relationship with a man for three years who 1.) Grabbed me by the hair and bashed my head on the steel pole holding up our balcony on a Saturday night in Hollywood resulting in me being hauled off in an ambulance to get 14 stitches in my head. 2.) When I moved to San Francisco to get away from him followed me, found out where I was living and continually showed up at my doorstep unannounced. 3.) Beat my 2 year old daughter to the point of horrible bruising and once open hand slapped her face right in front of me. 4.) Spent $20,000 out of my checking account in a three month period on clothing and gambling. 5.) Threatened to kill my gay best friend because he “stole” me from him. I had to leave the state of California for a year just to get rid of him. I’m horrified to say I even gave him that much of my life but I was manipulated, controlled, and frightened.

    Scorpio Sun. Cap Rising. And ALL other planets in Cap, Libra, or Sag EXCEPT for Saturn in Gem. One of the strangest charts I’ve ever seen because EVERYTHING is stacked in the same neighborhood.

    • that’s horrible 🙁 i had similar experience with an Ex, he was not Scorpio sun, like your ex but mine was Aquarius Sun w/stellium, Mars Aqua and merc, with Capricorn moon and Aries Venus/jupiter in the chart. So much cardinal. I’m thinking its the Malefic, where i read even on this blog, Malefic is Saturn/Mars when turned gross. Your Scorpio sun ex, being Scorpio is Mars ruled also, with Cap/Libra lots of malefic energy. my Aqua ex was plutonic too. strangely with above comments mentioning alot of cruelty. but he was abused terribly when he was a child. So like the others above with their experiences, these men were cruelly abused and they can never trust anyone or let anyone into their hearts. Therefore, their hearts turned black and they lost their souls. Even you could say they lost their humanity. because loving is opening your heart to trust even if people dont always live up to your expectations. they are still good people out there. and no one is ever going to be perfect. Good post about Black heart!

  19. my $0.02

    people who don’t understand or who have never experienced synergism… or simply don’t believe in it.

    there will always be those who refuse to give, and simply feed.
    some afraid that life is a zero sum game and never learn the rewards of sharing.
    some too lazy to invest in anything that doesn’t offer immediate payback.
    some who don’t see any reason they shouldn’t get whatever they want.
    some who feel the need to control the lives of others (often out of feeling inadequate control over their own lives.)
    there are probably other explanations as well, but these are the ones i see/become aware of most often.

  20. I knew one when I was a kid, but I don’t know his birth date or time. He was a sociopath, and he knew that I saw through him right away. (I was only six.)

    the mean girls in high school. I dropped out when I saw that it wasn’t going to get any better, and I knew I couldn’t handle any more. Things got better for me after that – as much as I wish I hadn’t gone through certain things, I can see how that whole chain of events was supposed to happen.

  21. i think some people like to bitch. i think they probably don’t have any deep personal needs, so they stay on the surface. they might just be used to being aggressive. im not sure, some people can change. but i think some people just like it, like its their comfort zone. maybe they even find comfort in it.

  22. We all have some dark emotions/memories through our varied life experiences. We learn to channel them constructively if we are mature. Picking on others takes your mind off of examining your own character and improving it. Protecting yourself at any cost to others becomes a destructive habit.

  23. In my family of origin, there is a nephew that I have nicknamed El Diablo. Definitely has a black heart. Very much enjoys putting people in difficult, humiliating, painful situations and likes to step back and watch the outcome. He’s admitted to this. Very sad because he was once an extremely beautiful and loving child. And now he destroys peoples lives.

  24. I just live this thread. Thankyou everyone. Have any of you ever thought you have an average white heart and thats what they have to destroy. Evil and vile. They only associate with peaple they can use. They do do it all deliberately. They neither admit nor deny. And, sorry to say they do not stop. They are screaming (in some way) always. They are never happy. That word happy is unknown to them. Its everyone elses fault, never theirs. Money and power at the root of it all. Usually come from nothing special. Distortions. On the surface nice, behind the facade a hunter of prey. Dog eats dog. Liars, abusers, bullies and so abnoemally jealous of everyone else. Duplicitous Gemini rising. Moon opposite Pluto. Pluto in 4th so moon in 10th. Strangulated childhood father left family took 2 kids, mother had her and brother, she never even knew. Scorpion Sun. Black heart. Thankyou Elsa. Describes that person so well. She has violated my whole life. I’m so totally the opposite sure I attracted the Medusa evil one. The comments about keeping their family under their control forever, absolutely spot on. She completely changed her thick scottish accent to appear as English. And she nailed it. Duplicitous Gemini rising. Interestingly the Planets seem to reward her all the time. Is that the way it is, or as I suspect it is about Pluto and when it contacted her sun exact in 1986, aged 37, she just accelerated her vileness. Mortgage fraud, adultery, cheque fraud, lies and deviancy. 70 now, still doing it. Hope that helps your black heart study.

  25. we are not born we are made… we do not care about feeling better
    or doing things to make us feel better..what we do is done from hate.
    there is no hidden agenda..there are no random targets
    we hate everyone and will target everyone..
    we do not harm to make us feel better we do it..because we can..

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