How does it all work? Astrologers present everything in such a matter-of-fact way, but what is your understanding of how and why the science works as it does and affects humanity the way it does?
What a great question. It’s mind-boggling, I know! I’m not the best person to answer this, but I’ve been asked so I’ll try…
How does it all work?
I don’t know! I don’t know how it works and I don’t know why it works and it’s irritating! I only know it does work and believe me, I am open to finding out otherwise.
I’m telling you, when I hear the planets are fake, I am open to such a thing. I am open to the idea, I have spent my life in astrology, mixed up beyond all measure. But I just can’t get this theory to stick, based on real life experience. Not a little bit of experience, but a lot. A lifetime of astrology. Even if the planets are something other than what we think they are, it still works,
In a way, I wish that I could disprove it! If it happened, I would be released from this. If this did happen, I would come right on here and outline what I’d learned. So I do consider things like this, always, to this day. As recently as a month ago! I seek the truth! But in the end, whatever I hear is abstract when stacked up against my real life experience.
Think what it takes to get on the phone with total strangers all over the world, and start chatting about their internal workings, based on a piece of paper in your hand? There is no way I would or could do this, if I were not completely confident in my ability to discern these things from a chart. How?
When I was first introduced to astrology, at 8 years old, it was an intellectual curiosity that I shared with my sister. As I grew up and left home, I did not find anyone interested in the subject. I lay it aside until I was 21 years old. That’s when I decided to get a formal address book that tracked people’s birthdays.
When I saw that every friend I had fell into one of three TIGHT clusters throughout the year, I went back to astrology… not knowing how it worked. Curiosity, see? Had to be something there, even though I had no peers around for many years. I wanted to get to the bottom of it.
It’s decades later and all I’ve seen is astrology be validated, over and over and over again. Yes, I’m still trying to answer your question…
Today, astrology for me is less than half, an intelleucal process. I hold the chart and the information comes to me; generally, it’s what I need to say to the person. I do feel it’s channeled on some level. Creative person can relate! In that moment, you know you are a conduit. The stuff is coming through you. From 2008 Communicating the Ethereal.
So I don’t know what is going on, outside of what I do know. I invested the time to learn astrology. My personal and professional life experience has put me in a position when I can read a chart like breathing. A person asks me a question and the answer is there… right there, generally in about three seconds. Some part of this takes place in the “black box”. See Love & The Black Box Theory.
Astrologers present everything in such a matter-of-fact way, but what is your understanding of how and why the science works as it does and affects humanity the way it does?
“Astrologers” are not created equally. I see astrologers state things as if they are facts when they make no sense at all to me, so I want to set this group aside.
Other astrologers co-op the work of a peer and offer another person’s opinion matter-of-factly, as if it is their own. They don’t actually have personal experience. This person is not an astrologer in my mind, though they may be on their way.
Astrologers who overwhelmingly tend to get it right state things matter-of-factly because we’ve seen the concept proven, over and over. If this is the case, the only reason to state it not matter-of-factly, would be to put a layer of PC culture on top, or some kind of open-ended people pleasing. Why bother? Why be disingenuous, if you know?
As for the “science” of it, I don’t even know that astrology is a science. What is “science” in this day and age?
If you learn astrology, properly, you should be able to take an ephemeris, add birth data and come up with something concrete. It works because the person has mastered a skill. The level of skill varies. Emotional health and psychological sophistication are enormous factors.
That is one of my books there, from the 1990’s. I have five of them by now, for daily use. Hell yes, I’ve learned things!
Regarding the effects of the planets on humanity; many would mention the pull of the tides but frankly, I don’t know a lot about that. I like to stick to what I do know and in fact, there are a lot of techniques and ideas out there that I feel are invalid, even if they’re widely accepted. I’ve been in this long enough, I only use techniques which I know are solid, based on personal experience. I’m saying, I can’t address this for all of astrology. My personal knowledge and experience is all I can offer.
Further, we’re all finding out we’ve been told many lies over the course of our lives. It’s within the realm of possibility, a chunk of astrology comes tumbling down as part of this, so I’m not going to throw up the status quo, just because there is one. I can only tell you that a natal chart yields profound information on a variety levels… and that’s for good or ill.
My answer is, the book + the data = real information. The rest is hidden from me personally. I think if all were revealed, there would be some surprises.
Last, I feel that “chicken or the egg” applies to astrology in a massive way. Specifically, in the realm of event astrology. Most feel the planets are causing the events. I think people are causing the events; timing they to coincide with the planets. Do with that, what you will.
Anyone else have ideas?
Fantastic article, especially that last paragraph! It made me imagine an infinitely complex barometer tracking the weather in countless individuals with climate potentials set at the moment of birth.
I remember asking you a question very similar – Does the Soul get imprinted from the energy of the Bodies out there in the heavens, or does the SOUL wait for the timing of the planets to align to be born – neither make sense completely. Trying to explain God, and the Nature of Reality will lead to the same dichotomy of understanding from a PHYSICAL Perspective, something that is only Energetic. We don’t have the full understanding to even begin to Tell the Tale. that’s why it’s so Woo-woo. People don’t know what they don’t know – so we get all sorts of peoples’ ‘knowledge’ of how they were raised up in life. One thing I do know: Dimensions other than this are real – probably more real than this one – and we can only begin to rationalize that when we have experience of it. We would have no thought or framework to hold the idea in the first place, until it is consciously felt and remembered. Something Alan Watts spoke about – the On/Off pulse of all energetic life – we only are aware of the ‘on’ and have no conception of the ‘off’ – but without it, we would not have energy at all. All computer programs are based on this off/on state. There is GREAT MIND in the offness of life, is what I’ve come to sit with. And People don’t know what they don’t know – and we must have open minds, but not so open our brains fall out. Are we all, collectively, moving towards something? There is no denying. The only truth we have is inside ourselves, and then connecting with others who also tap that deeper pool, which feels to be the ‘10%’ – the ‘100’th monkey’. I went to a Baptist Bible study last night where they believe – think all LIFE IS SIN – and that’s why people die. The perfect state of worship creates Eternal Life. So Christ must be somekind of sinner, he died….All trees, all plants –
their thinking is Faulty and the “healers’ of that time – the narcissists who needed to have Power over all people at that time – would need that Authority over them – the first sin was when people fell for that crap – like covid – Chunk Event – Change all reality. I also think it needs to be noted that this idea of Never Dying, or Eternal Youth is underlying ALL LIFE – it is primal motivation – and people will do anything to attain it once they feel it slipping away – and then the justification for WHY the “holy” ones do die, if they were so Holy, then they would not. There once was a Star Trek episode where Kirk and group go to a planet – where the people where worshiping Something – reading something, raising something – and it turned out to the Constitution of the United States – that had become so mish/mash and the meaning of it so misconstrued they were worshiping it just to worship without any true understanding – Energetically we care called to be and do the best we can, for why wouldn’t we unless we had issues. Life is a gift, and too many think its some sort of time to get through until what? no life? There is not one single person walking on water – not one has ALL THE ANSWERS – we can only begin to understand by coming together -We need Wise Councils not elected puppets. This topic is one that truly needs to have some deep people in a room who’ve for the most part have transcended their ego, and who can talk this out. It’s too dimensional for this 3d world yet.
I love this question so much. I think Astrology can and will be proven. I am working on a theory but I think I need to learn more biology and chemistry. 🙂
I think through time, people have figured out the natural timing of things and passed the info down the generations. Let’s agree that human culture developed around 35,000 to 50,000 years ago. That’s a long enough time to see repeating patterns and to call it ‘astrology’, don’t you think?
I like what @Aquarius Lurker says that 10’s of 1000’s of years have passed and patterns observed. 12 houses along with a myriad of planets, asteroids, nodal points offer such opportunity for processing the general life stages and activities. I like the therapeutic process astrology offers as transits and progressions happen. It really supports a cosmology of process and transformation that is available though whether it is applied is a question of some choice.
Love this subject and your response Elsa💖 The closest info I’ve found in answering this question was in learning about Human Design, which in my understanding, incorporates astrology, among other types of esoteric systems/practices (I Ching, Kabbalah, quantum physics and Vedic philosophy). I haven’t finished reading all of the Human Design books (so there may be something I’m missing in my explanation here that someone else can inform me of) but I remember reading about NEUTRINOS, and what seemed like an explanation of how they were essentially what caused the energy of the plants to affect us on earth.
Here is an excerpt from their website:
https://www.jovianarchive.com/Human_Design/How_does_it_work
“Neutrinos are unusual particles that carry an infinitesimal amount of mass. About 3 trillion neutrinos, and the material information they carry, pass through every square inch of the planet per second. Our Sun produces about 70 percent of all neutrinos that travel through our solar system, with the remaining 30 percent emitted by other stars in our Galaxy, and a small amount from the planet Jupiter.
In 2015, the scientists Takaaki Kajita (Super-Kamiokande Collaboration) and Arthur B. McDonald (Sudbury Neutrino Observatory Collaboration) were awarded a Nobel Prize for the discovery of neutrino oscillations, which shows that neutrinos have mass. Ra Uru Hu published this as the science behind the Human Design System as early as 1991.
Since Neutrinos have an infinitesimally small amount of mass, as the stream passes through us it leaves information. It is a stream of information, and within each of us exist particles that connect us to the stream. At the moment of birth, we are imprinted by the information carried by the neutrino stream via the planets. This imprint is reflected within your Human Design Chart, and determines your particular Design. This information provides us with the knowledge to understand our nature, potential, and forms of interaction.”
Seems like it could be a piece to the puzzle?