Virgo Woman Flirts And Sneak-Touches Man Who Has A Girlfriend: Astrology-Based Advice

October 23rd, 2007 @ 3:59 am by Elsa

Dear Elsa,

I met a man several years back. Just from a glance across a bar. Turns out we had mutual friends in common. We started emailing each other… flirting. We would see each other on weekends just being in the same place at the same time.

We will secretly touch each other – a brush here, a bump there. Now the catch. He has a girl friend and she does not know we email. She does not see the flirtatious touching but it will never go further than that. Should I just let it go? I really like him.

Virgo Woman
Tokyo, Japan

virgoDear Virgo,

I don’t know what you should do. If you like being the woman some guy feels up behind his girlfriend’s back, well then you’re in! But if you think this is love or something like that, then I would say you’re deluding yourself.

You have a stellium in Virgo with Pluto involved. You are no doubt attracted to the taboo of this situation along with the idea you don’t actually have sex so you keep your “virginity”. But you are past 40 and Saturn is in Virgo, which begs you to grow up, define yourself and face reality.

Is this the kind of adult you want to be? If so carry on. If not, knock it off. Your judgment is the only one that counts.

Good luck.

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cruise shipIn spite of my bridge story confusing people, I liked hearing what people had to offer on the Words Of Wisdom – Saturn Types Weigh In blog, plus I got my ya-ya’s and want to try this again… this time let’s see if some 8th house / Scorpio types will talk. I’ll start.

In the gym today I was thinking about how I always end up in the shadow… and how comfortable I am there. If I am going to hang with someone it may as well be a tabloid reporter, a Special Forces solider… more than one. I have written about criminologist, genius and shot-in-the-chest by a whore, Inspector Arie for one and there are others. Point is I am looking for (and offering) to stuff that is hidden or buried deep and not commonly known. The examples are endless, and here is another:

When most people go on a cruise, they go on a cruise. When I go on a cruise I wind up in the guts (the bowels, actually) of the ship, taken there to be interrogated. By an ex-Scotland Yard investigator no less, I don’t mess around.

My daughter was with me that time (Pluto rising in Scorpio). I was nursing her as I calmly, happily and confidently talking into the reel to reel tape recorder. I was born for this after all; I ate that guy’s lunch and I bet he’s still thinking about it.

So what about you other 8th housers? Where have you been and what have you seen?



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The Soldier and the Gal Who Hit On Him… Attraction To Taboo Redux

June 25th, 2007 @ 6:34 am by Elsa

Astrology in Real Life…

village peopleRemember that society gal, the friend of the soldier’s who hit on him? Well here’s an update, his Pisces has run amok.

“You hear from here lately?” I asked.

“Oh yeah. She texts now and then and she left a voice mail… last week sometime I guess. She wants me to call her but I haven’t called.”

“Too busy?”

“Yeah I’m busy but I also haven’t called her. I’m afraid to call her after talking to you,” he said.

“What? What did I say?”

“You told me about all that taboo. That fantasy stuff about the Village People.”

I laughed. “Village People? I didn’t say anything about them? What do they have to do with this?” Continue reading The Soldier and the Gal Who Hit On Him… Attraction To Taboo Redux



tabooMore chat re: the way up there, elevated gal who hit on the soldier…

“So why do you think she did that, P? Do you understand? I mean I guess she’s horny and I don’t blame her for that but why me? We’re friends. We have been very good friends and why would she mess it up like this?”

“Oh, I am sure she’s got a whole fantasy,” I said.

“Fantasy?”

“Yeah. You know how men are visual?”

“Yeah.”

“Well women, we like to dream things up. We like to imagine how things would be, or could be and you are perfect for this.”

“Why? Why am I perfect? What did I do?” Continue reading The Soldier and the Gal Who Hit On Him: The 8th House, Scorpio and Attraction to Taboo



glenn perry astrologyJust back from a workshop with Glenn Perry PhD… sort of a spur of the moment thing. Since having children, I don’t attend local astrology meetings so I am out of the loop as far as what is going on locally but I happened to hear of this workshop and couple days ago and immediately decided to attend.

I wanted to go very specifically to see Perry and I could have cared less what the workshop was about. Reason being, the chapter he wrote in, "Sexuality In The Horoscope".

I read that book when it first came out. I went clambering for it actually, considering I am me and I was treated to his bold treatment of Venus and Pluto in aspect. Continue reading Glenn Perry PhD – Sexuality In The Horoscope and His Workshop On Psychodynamics of Aspects in Astrology



rugby matchOne More for the New Moon in Aries. I have a packed 8th house… and whatever. Draw your own conclusions. ;-)

“I’m surprised you were that impacted by those rugby games. I never even think about when I used to play rugby,” he said.

“Oh. Well I was stunned by rugby. I was completely high from it and slobbering,” I said. Continue reading The Soldier and P – 48: Rugby, Raw Male Energy, Sex and Taboo



Sagittarius Woman In Her 50′s Feeling Attracted To Women: Sexual Experimentation and Liberation – Uranus Transit to 8th House Mars

January 30th, 2007 @ 3:44 am by Elsa

Dear Elsa,

I recently lost my husband after three years of bad health.

As I foray into singlehood in my early 50′s, all of a sudden I am looking at women! As I reflect on possible life partners, I realize I see men as only 2-dimensional but women as delightfully multi-dimensional. And yes, there is certainly desire brewing when I imagine a sexual relationship with a woman.

This desire for a same sex relationships came out of the blue and I am puzzled. How do I determine if this is simply me having a mid-life crisis… or dealing with past men issues… or pursuing a valid path for myself?

Is there any inspiration there from my star signs?

Scanning Around
United States

notel motelDear Scanning.

Yes, absolutely. The astrology is very clear. Uranus transits bring impulse to experiment. The 8th house in a birth chart represents sex among other things and Uranus is currently going into your 8th house. On top of that it will conjunct your Mars (more sex) in Pisces so you’re going to try some new things!

But I don’t want you (or anyone else with an impulse) to worry one bit. So I am going to tell you a story about how this works. Because I have Uranus tied up with the 8th house in my natal chart, and I would know.

When I was 17, I was already a very sexual person. This is my nature. And one day the No-Tel Motel opened in my town. It was a motel where you could rent a room by the hour and it had these porn movies piped in. And this was unheard of back then! This was a pure scandal and the motel was on the news, morning, noon and night. People organized and began to picket the place and when they threatened to burn it down, well that was it! I had to go there. I just haaaaaaad to.

See, I was curious. I was from the desert and I had never seen porn or movies or anything. I grew up without a tv! But also I just wanted to cross a picket line! Uranus wants to defy! Uranus wants to do what Uranus wants to do so after three days of watching this on the news, I couldn’t stand it anymore, so I called up the soldier.

Briiinnnnng! Briiiiiiiiing!

“Hey, man. You know that No-tel Motel?” I asked. “Have you heard of it?’

“Yeah.”

“Well I’m going. Wanna come?”

“Do I want to come? Did you just ask me if I want to…”

We roared laughing and a few hours later we met outside the motel and crossed the picket line together, me with the biggest grin you could possibly imagine. And we rented this room. And you know what?

We turned on the porn and it took me all of two minutes to decide it wasn’t for me. Borrrrrrrrrring! Why would I watch other people have sex when I could have sex myself? That made no sense.

But anyway, here’s the point and it’s a good one. I was 17 when I did that. It was an experiment and anything could have happened. I could have gotten addicted to porn. I might have learned I was a lesbian. I could have turned into a porn star, starting having sex with animals, etc. etc. etc.

Instead I found out via this experiment that while porn is uninteresting to me, taboo is. I also learned that I preferred to focus on an actual flesh man and would be having sex with anyone, anywhere and any time I wanted… picket lines or otherwise, and I remain this way today.

And this is the purpose of Uranus transits. You are supposed to try everything so you can find out what you like. So please. By all means get out there. The only thing that’s going to happen is you’ll find out who you are and this is the best thing in the world. So I say, go out and play! No sense wasting another day.

Good luck.

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yellow pantsSo here’s the Mars (Aries) Mercury portion of the conversation, along with the ever-present 8th house.

“Hey, we never rode in a car,” he said. “I never wanted a car. I liked the motorcycle. I didn’t get a car until I got a kid. If you have a kid, then you’ve got to have a car.”

“Yep. And I know that. I mentioned that, actually, to Scott. I told him I never rode in a car with you that I could especially remember. Maybe once. So you and I were something different.”

“Yeah, we went everywhere on the bikes. We zoomed everywhere on those bikes all the time. Zoom.”

“Yeah.

“Let’s go to the movies! We’d zoom there on the bikes! Let’s go here. Let’s go there. Zoom! Zoom on the bikes! We need some groceries. Better get on the bikes and go to the store. Let’s zoom there! Do you remember getting groceries on the bikes? You’d ride with one hand on the handlebar and the other holding a bag of groceries. Remember that?”

“Oh yeah. I do remember that, now.”

“Well we definitely got around. You in your yellow pants and that green flight jacket. Zoom!”

“I know.” I tried to remember if I had any pants besides the yellow ones since he’s mentioned them several times and I wasn’t sure. I was a one-pair-of-pants-from-Goodwill kind of girl back then, sort of. I figured I must have had another pair of pants, but definitely favored the yellow ones so probably made a point to wear them when he was around. You know. Wear your ugly pants when your man is not around, right? Hah!

“And you don’t realize at the time how strange it is. It wasn’t normal, Els. Some of the shit we pulled. Like moving you into the barracks.”

“Right. How foolish,” I said with a chuckle. “What were we thinking?” I asked, knowing exactly what we were thinking.

“And that other stunt. Do you know what a Washington Post reporter would have given to have an opportunity like that?” he asked. “I mean, do you realize? A Washington Post reporter would have given just about anything to have the chance to infiltrate something like that so deeply.”

“I know. And I was an idiot kid. A 17 year old. And can you think of anything more testosterone than that? I can’t. But by now, you can see it’s not that strange. This is what I do. I am drawn to this kind of thing. Where ever I’m not supposed to be, I want to be there. Because look what happens. Next thing you know, its a few years later and I dress up like a gay man. And I go out like that because I want to know what’s going on. I wanted to check it out.”

He laughed.

“And who else would do that? Who but me would pull that kind of crap? What woman is going to pretend she’s a man and go out in this environment? But I wanted to do that. Boy did I ever. You could not have stopped me by any means because obviously, this is what I do. And it must be what I am supposed to do since I’ve been doing it my whole life. Winding up all these places I don’t belong.”

I debate exposing the root of why this is, but decide not to in the matter of a half a second. “I’m supposed to know this stuff I guess,” I said. “I sure like it. And it always has to do with men. I sure like men.”

“I know.”

“I really do like men. I am interested in them. I am interested in men, like no one could believe. Like crazy, actually. What is more interesting than men? Nothing I can imagine.”

To be continued.


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zodiac horoscope astrology jewelrySo personally, I have Saturn transiting the 7th house which suggests I would be learning via relationships. And to facilitate this I am in contact with two ex-boyfriends from 28 years ago… the last time Saturn was in Leo. In other words, it’s a complete Saturn cycle.

I also have Mars conjunct Mercury in Libra, so a constantly hotted up mind. I talk (Mercury) about Mars things (Sex, war, men, etc). Especially when my conjunction is being transited as it has over these last weeks.

I have an 8th house emphasis, in general (intense, taboo) but beyond that Pluto is transiting in aspect to my Moon.

So what feels like “home” to me? In what ways am I subconsciously driven? What is my family legacy?

With Pluto transiting the Moon, these things are all on deck and you can see how it all comes together… how incredibly incredible the universe is when it comes to delivering experience via a conversation I had earlier this week.

I was talking to my Ex, the Special Forces guy which is very handy for Mars Mercury. Talk to a soldier? Perfect! He rang.

Briiiinnng! Brinnnnng!

“I was just talking about you,” I said.

“To who?”

“Scott.” Scott is my other ex from the era. “I was telling him… well the thing is, I saw Scott in July. And of course I saw him for 17 years on and off. But I hadn’t seen him in a long time and what you find out is nothing changes. Not one thing.”

He was listening.

“We were driving around in a car when I visited and you know… well I am a very visceral person. I am freakishly sensitive; there is no way to stop it. And I’ll tell you, it was exactly the same. We drove around and the feelings were exactly the same as they always were. How I felt in July was the same way I felt when I was on my first date with him, when I was 15 years old. There was no difference at all.”

“Uh huh.”

“Uh huh. It was identical. And it makes sense. Because think about it. He’s the same person. He has the same gestures and the same face with the same looks on it. So we were driving around and he’d glance over at me with the same look on his face from a million years ago. That Scott look. And I would have the same feeling, exactly. You know. I’m in the right car. I know I am somewhere I belong which is how I felt from the first minute I met him. So you see what I mean. His energy is the same obviously. It just doesn’t change.

“No.”

“So I have my energy and you put us in a car together, which is sort of close quarters and you can really feel this stuff. And it’s overwhelming. It’s overwhelmingly good, for that matter. Because it’s just so large. You just can’t compare this sort of experience. There is nothing like seeing something go all the way around like that. Thirty years and it means nothing. Time and space mean absolutely nothing. They have no effect at all that I can discern.”

To be continued…



OCD and Sexual Repression: Scorpio Rising, Mars, Mercury, Venus in Aries

September 23rd, 2006 @ 3:57 am by Elsa

Dear Elsa

I’m in my last year of university, but I feel it’s hard to move forward to what is next in my life. Ever since I’ve been 15, my sex drive has been non-existent. I remember it was very strong for a bit, but I felt very guilty about it and the feelings I was experiencing. Some of them were unacceptable to me – so much so that it gave me tremendous grief.

One day I just stopped feeling the drives though, and since then I have been going through life without them. I have OCD symptoms, but I do have Scorpio and Pluto prominent in my chart which could just be me wrestling with my subconscious and with my ego. I want to move forward in life in regards to relationships, but doctors and counselors seem to have few ideas. I’m also tremendously sensitive and have a Piscean like compassion for others, even strangers, and I’m not vindictive or aggressive like a typical Scorpio. Could this be me being out of touch with my mars energy (sex drive)?

Any insight would be greatly appreciated!

Scorpio Rising

aries ram horoscope cupDear Scorpio,

Your question doesn’t really fit the format of my blog as it’s akin to a personal reading. Further, your issues are obviously complex and probably not well suited to being addressed on advice blog.

However I am going to answer your question anyway, because I feel for you and because your chart strongly interacts with mine and leads me to think I may be able to help you which I think you strongly deserve. So I’m just going to talk straight and my editor can look the other way for a day.

On the thwarted Mars energy, my position on this is very clear. Repress your sex and anger (Mars) at your own peril and in your case this is especially the case. For one, you’re a Scorpio rising, so Mars rules the chart. Nothing is more important to you than Mars! And the rising is your physical body, so when you fail to express your Mars, your body is getting jacked beyond belief.

Now consider your Mars is in Aries which obviously want to go, Go, GO and further, it is conjunct both Venus and Mercury… opposite Pluto and I have to say this is one hell of a motherfucker you are trying to suppress. And how do you think this is going to play?

It’s going to play where it sits, in the 6th house, for good or ill.

Use your Mars = excellent health. Repress your Mars and you’ll see it turn inward and eat you alive.

What do you think Obsessive Compulsive Disorder is? It’s 6th house (daily routine / the mind / Virgo stuff) run amok! Helllllo! You need to fuck! You need to fuck and fight and be heroic and you need to do this every day just to maintain your health. So let’s talk about what happened when you were 15.

15 is puberty, you know. That means there is a flood of hormones. And have you looked at the astrology back then? I did. And Uranus (experimentation) was squaring all that Mars mess in Aries. Comprendo? So apparently when those dogs got out, they went so crazy they scared the hell out of you – so let’s address that.

First, if this is something as simple as homosexuality, well for Godsakes get over it. You have plenty of company. There are legions of homosexuals out there who will be happy to have you join them, and if it’s otherwise?

So what? At fifteen years old, you think you’re the first person who ever thought of it. Well take it from a fellow Mars Mercury, okay? You’re not! And some of this taboo stuff… try it once. Face your big fear about it and what you find out is it’s not that compelling after all. You get it out of your system!

So here’s my theory:

You’re innately very sexual but there are still periods where things will flare. Like during a Uranus transit, obviously. Uranus wants to break rules! So unfortunately you encountered one of these times in conjunction with puberty which was akin to a “perfect storm” and you became overwhelmed.

And being sensitive somewhat puritan with your 6th house, you nixed this whole deal and you are now suffering OCD due the stress of repression with more ailments on the horizon, no doubt if you do opt to own this energy.

So there you go. And PS, not all Scorpios are aggressive and vindictive.

Good luck.

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