“Declining to hear “no” is a signal that someone is either seeking control or refusing to relinquish it. If you let someone talk you out of the word “no,” you might as well wear a sign that says, ‘You are in charge.’”
–Gavin de Becker, “The Gift of Fear”
Saturn is security, boundaries, maturity, judgement, lots of good weighty stuff, or bad, weighty stuff depending on how you look at it and how it hits you. Fear is an emotion, therefore Moon-related. When Saturn aspects the Moon, either in the natal chart or by transit, one of the results you can get is fear. One of the reasons for this is Saturn compresses the emotional body, there’s a weight, a constraint. The fear is that it won’t end, or that we will be crushed. It is also fear of failure. What you’ve got is a soft Moon and a heavy Saturn. Creating structure (Saturn) protects the soft Moon.
Continue reading Security Fears: Saturn And The Moon
Astrology in real life
I think I am a very warm person but not lately. With Uranus and Saturn messin’ with my Moon… well I am just not really myself. I feel aloof and I almost want to apologize for it.
Astrology in real life
I am on my 3rd day with no sugar and all symptoms of depression have lifted. In my case it seems a very simple Saturn Moon equation: Control the diet, or feel depressed!
The problem now is I am just a like alcoholic 3 days later. I feel no problems at all and there is a risk of telling myself, “Oh, that wasn’t so bad. I’m sure a cookie won’t hurt…” ::rolls eyes::
Continue reading Speaking of Heightened Sensitivities… Plus Depression Update
Astrology in real life
I wrote these blogs about depression today, I am trying to pull my house together. I am depressed about this because if you’ve been reading me awhile then you know I already went through a living hell fixing this house some years ago (and court in regards to that ::rolls eyes) and now I have to do it again.
I also thought the soldier would be here to help me… er, I mean do it for me but as you can see that is not meant to be. He is helping me in the way he can help me (he working hard and sending money) but as far as doing what has to be done, I am on my own… again.
Continue reading Saturn Transit The Moon (Mine): Guideposts
How Astrology Can Help With Depression: Further Remarks Regarding Mars and Depression… Specific To A Saturn Transit To The Moon… Specifically The Moon In Sagittarius
Astrology in real life
Regarding, Astrology, Society, Mars, Anger and Depression, I just want to make it clear, I am not Tom Cruise. In fact, I loathe the man for telling pregnant women how they do and do not feel when their hormones fall off a cliff as if he’d know.
I don’t know what major depression is. I do know what “depression” is though, when it is situational and I have a lot of clients who contact me when Saturn contacts their Moon and they find themselves depressed.
Saturn in Virgo and it is throwing many who have Sagittarius Moons for a loop. If your Moon is in Sadge, you are naturally buoyant and when you find yourself sluggish… well it’s so foriegn, many don’t even know they are depressed.
Continue reading How Astrology Can Help With Depression: Further Remarks Regarding Mars and Depression… Specific To A Saturn Transit To The Moon… Specifically The Moon In Sagittarius
Ask the collective
Here is a question for y’all, especially those of you who have been through situational depression. What helps the most? Just as importantly, what should be avoided?
Astrologically, I am talking about a Virgo Moon suffering a Saturn transit and feeling that now is forever.
You may or may not know that Madonna has a Virgo rising and a Virgo moon and is now suffering a Saturn transit over her ascendant (body). Ruler Mercury is also in Virgo for that matter…
“The Queen Of Pop has sacked two dancers and her tour manager is threatening to walk out over her spectacular moods.
And for the first time, despite her incredible fitness regime, her health has started to suffer.
Doctors discovered Madge is anaemic, a surefire sign she is overdoing it, and she also suffered a painful knee injury…”
Read the rest: The Sun
The knee is an obvious Saturn symbol, it begs she slow down and the reference to her moods (the Moon) suggest (peri?) menopause. In whatever case, she is aging and the relationship troubles are another manifestation of Saturn transiting the ascendant impacting the 7th house.
Any Virgo risings out there feeling their age? What about Virgo Moons? How are you faring?
Recently, I broke off my friendship with a really nice woman I had met online. We were friends for about 10 months, although we never met in person. I ended it badly by sending nasty messages to her. It was a tough time for me trying to understand her and I was/am confused about myself and my feelings for her. I’m not sure if I loved/ love her or not but I sure was/am obsessed with her.
I did some bad things (like lying and sending nasty messages to her) which is something I don’t imagine doing to anyone in my real life and for which I feel terrible. Now that she is gone, I miss her and don’t know what to do or how to live my life or how to return to normalcy or how to move on.
I wonder what this whole thing is about and if I incurred some really bad karma or karmic debt which I may never be able to repay (or is it just my illusion) and also what is it for me to learn from this incident/event. I also wonder if there is any chance of reconciliation. I wouldn’t want this experience to have a negative influence on my future/life for my intentions were certainly not to hurt.
Aquarian Light One Friend
I don’t know if you can reconcile and repair your relationship with your friend but I tend to doubt it. People rarely want to be friends with people are nasty and lie to them, so what is left for you to do is gain from this loss if you can manage. But to do that, you are going to have to take responsibility.
As is it your mail sounds like this (in between its elevated language).
“I fired at my friend and now I have all these bad repercussions. Perhaps now I will be a victim who suffers my whole life long when I never meant to hurt anyone and my intentions were completely honorable when I sent those nasty mails…”
Now that is what I read and something does not compute. Here is the humble version:
“What was I thinking when I sent those nasty mails? I must be incredibly arrogant to think someone would tolerate that. When did I become so thoughtless, self-centered and low-minded as treat a friend so poorly?”
Then comes this:
“Jeez Louise, talk about learning a lesson. I’ll never do that again…”
As to the astrology, you have Saturn transiting your Pisces Moon and it begs you learn compassion. Not for yourself but for others.
Some things that have been bothering me for a long time now have finally come to a head this week, and I feel like the Dead Girl.
Literally. I feel like my life is over, and that it ended badly. At some point in my childhood (I even remember the day), I felt so incredibly hurt by the people around me that I decided then and there that I would NEVER deliberately hurt people the way I was being hurt. It became the meaning of my entire life.
I feel I have hurt people this past year, and I just… can’t… get past it. My life feels meaningless. Everything is just a motion I’m going through. I can’t figure out how to let it go. And the relationships in question have been cut off, not by me.
There are plenty of people who love me and want me to be happy, but none of that seems to matter. I am the Dead Girl, I have been for months now, and it’s really exhausting being here.
You’re depressed! Saturn is transiting your Moon in Pisces which is a classic signature for this type of feelings. I would go as far as to say you can’t have a Saturn transit to your Moon and not feel depressed to some degree, so the first thing to know and to keep in your Gemini mind is the fact that the things your are feeling are transitory not permanent in spite of their intensity.
Beyond this, I would suggest you go very easy on yourself and try to put the people who would like to see you happy aside in the short term… because this is one of things that exhaust a depressed person. Trying to stay up for the peanut gallery that is. You’d do better to spend your time alone sorting through your feelings or talking to a close friend who knows what it is like to feel “dead”.
Seeing a counselor who can help you sort through this childhood (Moon) stuff that’s got you down (Saturn) would also be a good shot, but bottom line I think you will get through this just fine. Yes it’s dark but it is not going to stay that way. I would be willing to bet your mood lifts once the transit passes and just knowing it is going to pass on its own accord can do a world of good as can a bout of depression for that matter. Because you are by nature a compassionate person and having gone through a time like this, you will be that much more equipped to be compassionate and we need all the people like that we can get.
I have recently broken up with my boyfriend whom I truly believed I would marry one day. We had a wonderful relationship; however, we began to fight and miscommunicate until he called it quits. I am shocked and devastated. I also greatly realize the mistakes I made during our time together, for which I am hurting badly.
In the three weeks we have been apart, I have been looking deeply into myself. I have discovered that Saturn is in conjunction with my moon, which apparently is a time of great self-criticism. I realize that is could be a good thing in the end, that I will grow and learn from this time. However, I am confused about a couple of things.
Is this influence a karmic thing? Does it mean this break up is punishment for my mistakes? I realize I need to change things for myself, but I never intended to hurt my boyfriend in the time I was with him, and was truly loving of him. I understand what this influence means, but I’m not sure why it has occurred.
Any help you can offer would be greatly, greatly appreciated.
Heart-broken and Learning
I am very sorry for your loss. Your pain is palpable and I will try to help. First, a Saturn transit to the Moon (your Venus is also involved) is one of the most challenging transits particularly for the young and you are just 23. And I don’t think it’s helpful for you to think in terms of karma and punishment. It is clear you are suffering and at this point, you want to work to feel better not worse. And though this will also be challenging, it can be done.
Essentially what you are doing is grieving, which is a process. And having identified all your shortcomings (ouch), it is now time to shift your focus away from that and try to move towards acceptance. Accept the loss. Accept the price you paid – but instead of going backward and beating yourself up, try to focus on the future and figure out how you are going to incorporate what you’ve learned.
This can take the form (Saturn) of making a commitment (Saturn) to never again perpetrate whatever it was you did. Commit to doing “the right thing” in relationships. Commit to acting as an adult (Saturn) and you can even go as far as being grateful you have learned these lessons now, because you know what?
There are people 10 and even 20 years older than you, still acting the fool.
Much love and good luck.
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