This is from 2008. My husband and I were coming off years of intense difficulty, the kind you don’t even speak of.

“I wouldn’t worry about that,” I said. “We are in impossible conditions, trying to have a life. I have been in impossible conditions myself, for 9 years. The conditions were  completely impossible but I still managed to have some kind of life.”

Continue reading Capricorn, Saturn And Compassion

From 2008 – What is the relationship between free will and pathology? Can a person opt away from what is stereotypical?

Annalisa and I have a lot of similarities in spite of our differences. I told her I thought she was seen as the more compassionate between us, after all she’s a Pisces. I said I wasn’t sure this was accurate and she agreed.

There are a lot of in a terrible bind of one kind or another.  I asked her if there was a limit to her compassion, this is something we’ve discussed on this blog before. She said in many cases she felt people had made their problem or “dug their own grave” as she put it.

Continue reading Aries Stellium: The Limits Of Compassion, Self-Centeredness, Greed And Comeuppance by Elsa

From 2007 – My sister and I in a controlled experiment…


Who do you feel sorry for (or not feel sorry for) and why?

What I notice right now is a lack of compassion that is alarming.  It’s like a puddle that has just plain dried up but alongside it, or somewhere else nearby there is still compassion.

People on the boards here show great compassion for each other. I demonstrated my compassion in ways that were significant over the last 24 hours – however as far as I can see, it is not either / or.

By that I mean I don’t think we have two groups, one compassionate, the other not.  The same people who show compassion show an alarming lack of compassion depending on the people(s) or subjects involved.  The people who mostly show a lack of compassion are extremely compassionate when it comes to the people or things they covet.

Continue reading Alarming Lack Of Compassion Or Endless Generosity, Depending…

I know that many are opposed to edges or cut offs of all kinds. They would like to believe that anything is possible for anyone at anytime.

While in theory I agree this is true, in practice many things can be called or counted out with a high degree of accuracy. For example, in theory Ted Bundy might redeem himself but in reality there is no way in hell.
Continue reading Here Is A Cold, Hard Saturn In Virgo Fact: Some People Waste Your Time And Effort

The soldier is always having to remind how little people care.  These are people in ‘caring” professions primarily.  The first time he explained this to me it was jarring but I have come to learn how right he is.

“They’re just doing their job, P. They don’t care one whit what happens…”

Continue reading Astrology, Caring And Projection: Chiron In Pisces Opposite Pluto In Virgo

satori writes:

I’ve never understood violence and humiliation as humour. Today I watched a video on the nets where a woman was humiliated. Comments on the video were overwhelmingly of the flavour that while they’d be mad as hell if it happened to them they had laughed their asses off. I also don’t get the whole Three Stooges I-hit-him-in-the-head-with-a-hammer school of funny.

I think it speaks to a lack of compassion for others. I think it’s pretty pervasive in our society, and I’d bet there’s a marker for it in individual charts. Suppose there are markers for everything: isn’t that what reading a natal chart is all about? Markers, for compassion, lack of compassion, maybe markers for killing.

Continue reading 2 Years Ago On The Elsa Blog: Compassion, Violence, Humour: Markers In The Natal Chart

kashmiri writes regarding Saturn

“Basically a person needs to accept there is no ‘get out of jail free card’ and things improve. Exponentially.”

kashmiri, I understand what you are saying and know you would elaborate but I have to jump on and argue this. I have been handed many, many “get out of jail” free cards in life. I have stood on the ground and looked up at the sky time and time again and asked God exactly this:

“You’ve got to be kidding me? You mean I am going to get away with this?”

And apparently God approves because I do get away with the thing.

I have had it all, from judges who rule for me even though I am 100% wrong and say so in open court to enjoying spontaneous unexplainable healing after devastating injury. These things happen to me, I swear they do and as far as I am concerned it may very well be Saturn giving me the pass. What is a judge if not Saturn? It is as if the authority looks down on me and says you know what, Elsa? You don’t suck after all and this one is on me.

For the record, I also hand these cards out out all the time. Take my son. He is such a good kid. You think if he makes one mistake I am going to come down on him? I’m not. I am going to get him out of his trouble in the the most painless (for him) way possible and then shrug.

I think you can get beaten all your life and then run into someone who is just not going to be party to it under any circumstances and I think the people who spare you are the Capricorns I mentioned here -> Capricorn, Saturn and Compassion

Nice segue, huh?

If you do get them, to what do you attribute this too?