Her Boyfriend Plays Mind Games: Pisces Woman, Virgo Man, Saturn Transit 7th House… Saturn Return in the 8th
Dear Elsa,
I have been seeing a guy for 2 months. We clicked instantly (we had been talking online for a few weeks before). A week after we met, he had to leave the country in work and we didn’t know when he would be coming back, whether it would be for 2 weeks or up to 3 months, and I wanted to know where we would stand as far as being faithful to each other. So we became committed very fast, a week after we met in person. The commitment was my suggestion and he seemed very happy to go with it.
He returned 2 weeks after and things have been great half of the time. The problem is he likes to play mind games, and leaving me wondering about whether he is really into me or not. I noticed the inconsistency in his behavior and asked him about this; he said he acts like this because he thinks it is essential to keep a relationship alive and not boring, though he swears he hasn’t been bored yet. But he says he is afraid to lose me, and so I guess this is why he acts like this, not giving me enough attention.
I’ve explained to him that I don’t function like that. I gave myself totally to him and if he doesn’t seem interested enough, I will start to back off because I figure I’ve given all I have – and if that is not enough, I will automatically start preparing for the end instead of becoming more interested like he is expecting me to.
I thought he had understood this. But today I needed him with me, and he knew it, and he didn’t change his plans which weren’t important. I feel he is not making any effort. I didn’t ask him explicitly to change his plans. I gave him hints and he didn’t seem to care enough to notice them. I have been feeling intensely sad and asked him to leave me alone for a few days, because I don’t think he will stop being egocentric and I’m not sure I can be happy this way.
I love him, and I’m afraid I’m being too needy and maybe unfair. Maybe I shouldn’t ask this much of him and be happy with what he is willing to give me, either because he doesn’t love me enough or because he really can’t let go of his stupid mind games. I don’t know what to do. Can you give me some insight on this?
Girlfriend
United States
Dear Girlfriend,
Insight? Yes I have some. You committed prematurely to a man you didn’t really know and don’t even seem to like, most likely because you think this is all you deserve.
Further – rather than recognize the error and cut your losses, you’re spending your time scrutinizing yourself wondering if there is something wrong with you or if there is something you could do differently to make your relationship with this man tolerable. Tolerable?
At best: if you bust your butt, turn inside out and cut off an arm, you might be able to stand this guy. But why, tell me, why would you do that?
I am sorry but I don’t think your relationship is viable. It is a mistake pure and simple and with Saturn transiting your 7th house, it begs you learn from this. And hurry… and I mean that.
I am sorry to hit you so hard but the best thing that could happen is this blog cause you a crisis that ultimately forces you to take a serious look at your behavior in relationships. Because Saturn is at the end of your 7th house not the beginning and if you don’t get hip…. well it will be like graduating from high school illiterate. So here is a crash course:
You met a guy… finally met a guy. Feeling desperate and lonely you pressed for a commitment and if you read through the rest of your post, the whole thing is a bid to control to avoid the doom you are sure is coming! And I ask you, is this any way to live?
Now he is hopeless as far as an honest relationship goes and there is nothing you can do about that, but you can work on yourself and this is what I would do. Get a therapist! And please don’t be insulted by that. I had to get a therapist! And thank God I did, it was the best money I ever spent!
I’ll apologize one more time, but I can’t stress this enough. Forget the guy and get some help. You’re heading into your Saturn return, in the 8th house no less and this stuff needs to be addressed. When? Now. Just get yourself to a therapist and tell them what you just told me and you’ll be on your way.
I know you’re scared but do it anyway – because your life and happiness are at stake and you are worth it. And for the record, you can totally and absolutely heal and pull out of this. You just need the right associations and this guy is not one of them.
Good luck.
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Her Boyfriend Has Stopped Begging Her To Stay: Saturn Transit to Sun in Leo
Dear Elsa,
I am afraid of my boyfriend getting tired of me and leaving. Before I would always initiate the break up, because I felt like we were both unhappy. We would fight and I would always resort to breaking up, and he’d always tell me not to.
Then one day, he had this strange look on his face and I asked him what was bothering him. He said that he thinks that we are not the same couple that we used to be. We had been dating for a year and a half. He said that he feels like he’s unfair to me, because he used to be jealous and he would have horrible anger issues (he never hit me or abused me in any way).
I feel like I have lost him. I live in his home and as I was packing my clothes up, he did not once try to stop me. We both cried and cried, and he asked why are we so hurt if we love each other so much. I felt like he was giving up on our love. He would always convince me that our relationship is strong and we would get through our little fights. But this time, it seemed as though he was letting me go.
Right now we are fine. But I can’t let this jittery feeling go. I feel like he’s just trying to be happy with me instead of just leaving me, like he wanted to do in the first place. I always told him that he can express his feelings, and once he did, I felt as if I was punishing him and putting him in a corner. But he was going to leave me if I hadn’t made the decision to stop packing my clothes.
He also works with this female coworker who just broke up with her boyfriend. I’m scared that he and her will end up together since they both confide in each other about their problems. I am so scared. I feel like each day he might just tell me that he doesn’t want to be with me. I feel so sad. I know that I took him for granted. He was a good guy but I was a needy person. Now, I know that I regret things that I’ve done. It’s so sad to know that he was a wonderful person, and I was just selfish. I always thought that he would be there for me, but then the other day, I guess it struck me. He was willing to let me go because he felt as if we were both not happy. Please help.
Girlfriend
United States
Dear Girlfriend,
Saturn is transiting your Sun in Leo and are you humbled yet? I don’t think so. It sounds to me like you have given this man a very hard time and I am pretty sure your fears are justified. He probably does want out. He probably does want the other woman. Do you blame him?
And I don’t say this to hurt you. I say it because if you want to have a shred of hope of keeping this man, you’re going to have to apologize and be a hell of a lot more humble than you sound in your mail when you do. And I am pretty sure if you can’t manage this, you will lose this man if you have not lost him already. So do you want to keep him? Or not?
If you don’t want to keep him, just do as is. Sit there and think of yourself. Hope and pray he doesn’t leave you because of what it will do to you. Meantime, this other woman will treat him like a human being and I am sure he will find the door here pretty quick.
On the other hand: if you want to keep him, you best get down on your knees and start apologizing and you better mean everything you say. Grow up, as in yesterday and deal with this man in a way that is responsible. Cop to what you did, and why you did it. Tell him how you are not going to do it anymore and what steps you are going to take to insure this is the case so that you might possibly regain his trust.
Are you up to this? I don’t think you are. I think you’re going to sit there and wait for him to fix it for you, rather than clutch it up yourself. But feel free to get mad as hell and prove me wrong.
Good luck.

Scorpio Woman Wants a Family, Has A Pattern Of Choosing Commitment-Phobic Men
Dear Elsa,
I’m 33 at present and very much want a loving and stable relationship & to start a family. Unfortunately, I seem to have a penchant for attracting difficult relationships wherein the guy can’t or won’t commit. These situations leave me very distressed, to the point that it affects my physical health. I’ve been told by those close to me that I am too intimidating and unapproachable, however once involved I get too intense and scare the guys away.
Very recently, I’ve been troubled by a male colleague who is married and has 2 children. He says he loves me a lot and it is affecting his family life. I have always advised him to keep away from me and clearly stated that I do not want anything from him. However, he still continues to meet me at the workplace and says that he wants to get intimate with me. Once, he even mentioned that if I get married to someone else, he would still be in touch with me and be my lover.
To be honest, I do have feelings for him and like him a lot but my conscience is never convinced with any emotion. I’ve been terribly distressed due to this situation and being conservative, I abhor cheating in relationships. Many a time, I’ve felt the need to quit my job and be at home for sometime as I feel so drained by all this trauma. However, I can’t afford to leave my job & why should I run away?
Please advise me how I can break away from these destructive patterns and work towards a real & fulfilling relationship with a man and family that is my own. I am very hopeful that if I’m honest, the universe will guide me towards love whatever be my shortcomings.
Hopeful
India
Dear Hopeful,
You’re asking very good questions. First on the guy at work: it’s very hard for a man to engage a woman who does not give him energy. For example if you told this guy you would rather have cancer than be intimate with him and roared laughing as if he were the fool of the century for suggesting he was going to follow you around, I bet you’d shrink that dick down and be rid of this guy in about 2 seconds. So why don’t you do that?
Well I’ll tell you why. It’s because he fits your pattern. He is a difficult man who is not available for commitment, and even if he was available, you wouldn’t want him. Because you already know he’s a cheater, yes? And you’re a Scorpio! You don’t want this guy. So what are you doing, hmm?
If you ask me, you’re wasting time. Time that is precious if you are 33 years old and you want children. So here’s my advice:
Dump the guy at work and know exactly why you’re doing it. You’re doing it because it’s a dumb and destructive game. And worse than that, it is distracting and disabling you from using your energy in a way that might heal your problems and allow you to have the life you say you want.
Once you’re clear, your main job will be to stay that way. By that I mean no more going down garden paths with commitment-phobic men. You simply don’t have the time. But get this loud and clear:
Women who routinely get involved with men who won’t or can’t commit are invariably commitment-phobic themselves and you are no exception. If it is of any comfort to you, I am also no exception! So I think your friends are off base when they say you scare men and so forth. This is not the issue! You choose the men purposefully (even if sub or semi-consciously) so at the end of the movie, you get free. And unless you can dig in there and come to terms with the fact this all originates in you I am afraid you’ll be doomed to repeat this pattern for the rest of your life.
The need for space is in your chart – as is the potential for real love later in life – but you are going to have to do some work, and take some responsibility too. The guy at work is wasting your time. If you are willing to do what you have to do to make him stop, perhaps when you find a man who is not wasting your time, you’ll be willing (and able) to do what you have to do to make him stay. But all this panic and victim hood and hand-wringing has got to stop. Because are you really that powerless? I find this hard to believe.
Good luck
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Brokenhearted Lesbian: Her Girlfriend Loves Her But Won’t Commit and Wants To Sleep Around: Capricorn Sun, Pisces Moon, Venus in Scorpio
Dear Elsa,
I live in Texas and met a woman online a year ago; we dated for 5 months before she moved to Seattle. When she left she did just that – she left with no goodbye or any explanation. We were intimate and very close; it broke my heart.
Two months later, I got a text. I forgave her, we continued as friends – yet she started saying how much she missed me and of course I told her the same. She wanted to come home and I bought her a ticket. For one week we realized we still had feelings for each other. She told me how in love she was with me and how happy she had been. I confessed the same yet she was still dating people and told me she couldn’t commit since I live so far away and she said she wanted to continue sleeping with other women.
She told me that the sex means nothing to her, that it is me she is emotionally committed to and in love with. But I had to end it with her because the fact she is with other women breaks my heart.
For me being in a committed long distance relationship is possible. I could and would do it but she can’t and won’t. Now, once again, I am left with a broken heart. I feel I did the right thing yet why am I still questioning myself? I know it would kill me knowing she is with someone else. All of her friends are lesbians and they all sleep with each other. I just am not like that; I can’t be when I am in love with someone. Advice???
Brokenhearted Lesbian
United States
Dear Brokenhearted,
I think you are still questioning yourself because her perfume lingers and you are just not ready to let go. So let me help you by outlining a few things.
You have a lot of Pisces and this woman is oppressing you. She is quite cold and definitely mistreated you when she took off without explanation some months ago.
Pisces has an attraction to being mistreated… to sacrificing themselves, but that’s only part of the story here. Because you have significant Scorpio in your chart as well and I think this woman allows you access and experience your deep feelings when she cuts you the way she does.
Now it’s fine if you like this. You can stay where you are for as long as you want, but if you want to move through this and experience a breakthrough, or merely something new you could turn your attention away from how bad and sad this is for you and acknowledge the fact you are attracted to bad boys (women) and perhaps even embrace it. Because if you will allow this predilection of yours to become more conscious, you’ll be left with choices – which is something you don’t have at the moment.
For example, you could go looking for another danger-girl but this time with purpose. Alternately you could be the danger-girl yourself.
You could also decide this pattern has a psychological cause you want to resolve so you can settle in with someone more like you (as you express yourself today). Someone who wants to settle into a committed, loving relationship, that is. But please be advised, danger-girls don’t do that. This is like having a lemon tree in your yard, hoping it grows you some pineapples.
So this is my advice: Figure out if you want lemons, pineapples, kiwi or whatever else, and go get it. But never, ever consider yourself a victim.
Good luck.
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Her Boyfriend Cheated, She Loves Him To Bits – Should She Stay Or Should She Go? Sun, Stellium in Taurus
Hi Elsa,
My boyfriend of 8 years recently cheated on me. He came back, saying it was his first time and that he’d never do it again and that he loves me.
I am so confused about what to do. I absolutely love him to bits. But what he has done has rocked my trust and confidence big time. I’ve become very suspicious and the only thing running inside my head every time is what he might be up to at that moment. The fact that he and that girl work together makes it all the more difficult.
I just can’t seem to forgive him. I’m not saying I’ve been entirely faithful. I cheated him once too and told him about it. But it was during a time when we were on the verge of breaking up. I don’t know if I should stay or I should let go!
Girlfriend
Saudi Arabia
Dear Girlfriend,
Well I think you should stay at least for now! You say you love this man to bits and that’s pretty rare… especially after 8 years, as I am sure you know. So if it were me, I would try very hard to work through this.
I don’t see how you can get out without making an effort, so what might help is committing to making the effort. You’ve got a lot of Taurus and you need stability. I know you are in a lot of pain, but it sounds as if your relationship is pretty strong and probably worth saving.
So if you opt in this direction… essentially making a decision, you may find things ease a little right away and perhaps the next steps to take will emerge.
For example, your man may need to get a new job. Or the two of you may really want to talk through this cheating thing at a deep enough level that a paradigm shift takes place, and your commitment to each other becomes stronger than ever. You get the idea…
But I wouldn’t bolt. Not when you love him to bits! Not when he’s sorry. And not when he is willing to made amends and work on your relationship.
One more thing. Here’s a resource for you and anyone wishing to save their marriage / relationship. Best book I know for couples wanting to keep it together… non-religious, by the way. Divorce Remedy: The Proven 7-Step Program for Saving Your Marriage![]()
Good luck!
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Self-Confessed Commitment-Phobic Woman Now Wants a Meaningful Relationship, But How?
Dear Elsa,
I am in a relationship with a Pisces man. I am a self confessed commitment-phobe, but I am very, very conscious that “enough is enough”. I am tired of hurting others and myself. I want to commit and have a meaningful relationship.
I want to know how I can relax and achieve this. I am not saying that he is “the one” but I don’t want to throw this away either. I used to have it in my head that if it was the “right one” then my attitudes towards commitment would change. Now I don’t think that’s true and it has to come from me.
How do you think I should go about this, and do you think this current relationship would be helpful to me??
Many thanks for your help.
Commitment-Phobe Who Wishes To Reform
United Kingdom
Dear Phobe,
You have an extremely challenging chart as far as settling into relationship goes… and delineating the entire chart is beyond the scope of this column. But I can offer some tips on how you can start to progress towards your goal (that I think others can benefit from as well).
The way you’ll solve this is by getting to know yourself very, very well. So that means, forget about your Pisces man for the moment. Because he could be anyone. You can put anyone in his slot and you are still going to be you – and what I want you to see, is yourself.
To do this, you will have to pay attention. How do you feel when you have urges to bolt? Are you bored? Do you feel you could do better? Get a better man? Is some single friend out having a good time?
Are you sick of the sexual demands? Is it all just too much trouble? Is the reality of a relationship that you have to sustain just not as interesting as the startup of a new one? Do you wonder if the next sex (with a new partner) might be better?
I could go on and on and you should. Try to figure out what is triggering you. Try to understand how you tick!
Because it really is about you, ticking independently from what the other person does. Don’t forget that. Pisces man, Libra man, Scorpio man, Leo man. You are still going to come up with these feeling of disillusionment. But if you can gain awareness of how this constellates, you will be in a position to try to work with them. It’s just like anything else you want to change.
Say you’re afraid of public speaking, so you avoid it. But now you’re in your 30′s and want to master it. So you face your fear! And as you walk up to the podium to speak you’re going to want to bolt! But you remind yourself you’ve taken a new path for x, y and z reason and you continue to the podium, step up and make your speech.
And for a commitment-phobic who wants to be in relationship, it’s the same. You will have the impulse to leave but you can override it if you decide you want to move forward more than you want to go ’round and ’round and ’round.
Good luck.
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Commitment Phobic Heart Breaker – Can She Change?
Dear Elsa,
I don’t enjoy breaking hearts, but I’m ruthlessly efficient at it. I’m a self-proclaimed commitment phobic and I’m not entirely sure that I’m fed up of being one just yet. But if I were fed up with being one, is it possible for me not to be one any more?
I’m in the process of breaking up (again!) with a wonderful man, who would give the world to me – if I let him. He’s aware of my phobia and has spent hours upon hours doing research and trying to figure a way to help me get over this. I don’t believe I can change even if I wanted to. Am I wrong?
Heart Breaker
Dear Heart,
I don’t believe you don’t enjoy breaking hearts. I think you love breaking hearts and get some kind of ego boost off it. Can you stop? Of course! But I don’t imagine you will anytime soon.
I see the T-Square in your chart. And I believe you seduce these men for the sole purpose of cutting their throats in some misguided show of your prowess… and eventually this will backfire. It’s as if you are a massive alcoholic who has just started drinking. He/she thinks she can go on like this forever, but this is an illusion. Eventually you will wake up and find yourself bereft. If you’re lucky that will be soon but I’m not holding my breath.
In the future you will hit the wall. And at that point, you may decide to straighten up and if you do it will be a slow and very painful process. Till then, party on. But don’t think for a minute you aren’t racking up karma because I guarantee there will be hell to pay in the future. If you think the universe, or anyone else, thinks what you are doing is cute or special, think again.
Good luck.
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She Feels Suffocated In Relationship – Commitment-Phobic In Love: Aquarius Rising, 7th House Moon
Dear Elsa,
I have had many boyfriends in my life. Some were very serious, to the point of possible marriage. But for some reason, there was always something missing from those relationships and I never felt as if I wanted to spend the rest of my life in them. I felt suffocated and restricted, although nothing had changed since the beginning of the relationships.
I met the most wonderful man four months ago, and I feel as if he might be ‘the one’. I’m afraid that the same old suffocating feeling is going to come back, and that I will unintentionally hurt this wonderful man who I truly want to be with.
Is there something in my chart that reflects this tendency to feel suffocated? Or was it maybe that the men in my past were just not the right ones for me? I’m afraid that I’m going to be running from love my entire life, while at the same time craving it. Do you have any insight?
Scared Leo
Dear Scared,
Yep, you’re on to it. Part of you wants to be in a relationship and part of you wants out! And you’re right. It has nothing to do with the man. You’re a commitment-phobic who craves relationships and this is hard-wired.
As for the astrology, anyone with their Moon in the 7th house is going to have an emotional need to be partnered. PERIOD.
But you’re an Aquarius rising. And you have Uranus in hard aspect to your Sun. And you have Jupiter conjunct your Mars and square your Venus. And all of this shrieks “Don’t fence me in!” And if you want evidence of this, just check your email address…
Your email address is how you identify yourself, right? And yours is the equivalent of FreeSpirit@blahblah.net. So how is that person going to be married, huh? ::smiles:: You’ll be jacked up from day 1!
So I don’t know what you’re going to do about this. How you resolve it will be very personal, but I can tell you it can be done because I am just like you and I’ve done it. There is a way to be both partnered and free. So you’re on the right track with your consciousness of this. And hopefully the clarity will help to kick you to the next level.
Bottom line, you need to make your own rules when it comes to relationships. Anything traditional will fail. And this may sound bad to you today, but it is what it is and understanding yourself is the key.
Good luck.
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Her Relationship is Heavenly But Double Gemini Boyfriend Avoids Commitment
Dear Elsa,
I met a lovely Gemini man (Gemini moon/Scorpio Rising) in February. We have been dating ever since and are in love, if not smitten! I’ve never experienced anything like this before and it’s HEAVENLY!
My concern is that he feels the need to be financially stable before entering into a relationship. I don’t know why he feels this need in order to have a girlfriend.. It’s not like we’ve ever even discussed marriage! I just wonder why he feels the need to be able to “support” a girlfriend? Is he full of excuses that he has to get his “mush” in order first?
I have a history of being a doormat. Maybe it’s my Libra Rising. I tend to put other people’s happiness before my own. I let the first and only prior dating “relationship” since my divorce drag for a year and a half with no real substance. See my dilemma? I seem to hope and hope for something that isn’t there and my biggest fear right now is that because I love him, I am going to let this drag on and on without ever having a commitment from him. I have vowed not to let this last more than a year if that’s the case. I’m just afraid of looking like a fool again.
Help! What’s going on? Why is my life a mess? Is it just because of Saturn?
Thank you,
Libra Rising
Dear Libra Rising,
You’ve got a true conundrum here and though I can’t solve it for you, I can define it and you can take it from there.
You say you are in love. You’re very happy and things are heavenly but then you go on to complain and outline your fears. So at first glance a person might think, she’s already happy, isn’t that enough? Someone might wonder, “Does she want to be happy? Or committed?”
Because oddly enough, these men who don’t commit so well (and a double Gemini certainly qualifies) seem to please you on one level. But there is more than one level, isn’t there?
See the Double Gemini (an air sign) is an excellent complement to your Sun and Moon in fire and this is what is so heavenly. With an Aries Moon, and an 11th house Sun, you are quite independent and basically having no problem at all.
But you have a t-square involving Saturn (serious) and Venus (relationship). And this side of you desperately wants a commitment and you go as far as to berate yourself and call yourself a fool when one does not materialize.
And in your current relationship it manifests as fear. Oh no! What if he doesn’t marry me! And you apparently forget the fact that your relationship is excellent and thriving.
So what I would suggest you do is examine your goal. Do you want a marriage or a happy relationship? Because let me clue you in to something disturbing: If you get some stodgy committed guy, you may be married but the fire side of you is going to go feel restricted and go crazy with boredom. Ain’t that a bitch?
But this is who you are so if I were you, I’d be thinking about how I was going manage this, as opposed to chasing something I think will solve all my ills when it won’t.
Good luck.
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Fear of Commitment? Boyfriend Making Excuses Around Getting Married: Cancer Sun, Venus Saturn Conjunction
Dear Elsa,
I have been dating a man for six months. We have been close friends for three years, but I’m noticing that he has a very hard time talking about the future. Anytime I bring up marriage or future issues, he changes the subject or puts me off with excuses. He is in a job transition at the moment, and things are a little insecure in that department. I agree with that. But they certainly are not insecure with me (financially), so I can not see what the big issue is.
The other thing is that he is 40. He was married for 10 years but divorced 12 years ago. I just do not think he will ever commit.
Any advice on how to approach the issue or should I lay off for a while? I just don’t want to be the fool who is strung along for years, only to be let down.
Thanks,
Girlfriend
Dear Girlfriend,
No I don’t think you should lay off, provided you know what you want. Do you want to be married? Are you sure of this? If you are sure this is what you want, then it is completely reasonable for you to communicate this to your boyfriend, and at 40 years old he ought to be able to respond and let you know if he has a similar desire.
Now from the tone of your email, it does seem you are trying to herd him somewhere he is not really wanting to go. But backing off in an attempt to take the pressure off him with the hopes of advancing your agenda… well, this is where you will be getting into trouble.
See, it’s all very false. You’re going to act like you don’t care if you marry or not and then if he doesn’t marry you, you’re going to cry foul? See how jacked up that is?
I say if you really want to marry, then you need to invest in a marriage-minded man. And if this guy is not inclined in that direction, you need to find that out so you can move along and the best way to do that is directly. Work to get, work to keep! Remember that. But beyond all this, here’s a little tip regarding your chart:
You have conflicting desires around this issue of marriage, like so many of us do. You’re a Cancer with a Venus Saturn conjunction and you definitely want commitment for security purposes but this is not the whole book on you.
You’re got other indications of being a freedom loving commitment-phobe yourself and I think he is living this side of you. Get it? He doesn’t commit which spares you having to commit!
Just think about it, okay? Think about having this guy committed to you 100%. Can you feel the itch?
And I’m not trying to make you uncomfortable. It’s just that some people spend a whole hell of a lot of time chasing something they think they want, when what will really satisfy them is a whole different deal.
Good luck.
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