How Does A Person Wind Up Cursed?

My husband’s bad luck is legendary. It’s been this way all his life as anyone who knows him could testify.

Now and then he hits a period where his bad luck becomes unchained. Bad things cascade down upon him. Bad news POURS in.

Witnessing this, chills me to the bone. It’s breathtaking, and hey! I’ve had periods like this myself and I’m not that easily impressed!

Recently he hit one of these streaks. “Let’s go gambling, P!” he said, brightly. I rolled my eyes. But then I got to thinking. Why is this? Why do some people really and truly, suffer more headaches than others?  What does it meeeeean?

Luck is Jupiter-ruled. My husband has Jupiter in Sagittarius which should and does offer him some protection.  Otherwise he’d be dead?

But really. What are your thoughts on this? How do you think a person winds up cursed?

This my favorite song about bad luck. I just love this song.


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How Does A Person Wind Up Cursed? — 32 Comments

  1. I feel some people like to experience a lot of things in one lifetime… they want to grow faster so enroll in sort of a extra credit courses… and suffering does increase growth exponentially.
    Just my view…

  2. This Chinese Fable comes to mind…

    There once was a farmer. One day the farmer’s only horse broke out of the corral and ran away. The farmer’s neighbors, all hearing of the horse running away, came to the farmer’s house to view the corral. As they stood there, the neighbors all said, “Oh what bad luck!” The farmer replied, “Perhaps.”

    About a week later, the horse returned, bringing with it a whole herd of wild horses, which the farmer and his son quickly corralled. The neighbors, hearing of the corralling of the horses, came to see for themselves. As they stood there looking at the corral filled with horses, the neighbors said, “Oh what good luck!” The farmer replied, “Perhaps.”

    A couple of weeks later, the farmer’s son’s leg was badly broken when he was thrown from a horse he was trying to break. A few days later the broken leg became infected and the son became delirious with fever. The neighbors, all hearing of the incident, came to see the son. As they stood there, the neighbors said, “Oh what bad luck!” The farmer replied, “Perhaps.”

    At that same time in China, a war broke out between two rival warlords. In need of more soldiers, a captain came to the village to conscript young men to fight in the war. When the captain came to take the farmer’s son, he found the young man with a broken leg–delirious with fever. Knowing there was no way the son could fight, the captain left him there. A few days later, the son’s fever broke. The neighbors, hearing of the son’s not being taken to fight in the war and of his return to good health, all came to see him. As they stood there, each one said, “Oh what good luck!” The farmer replied, “Perhaps.”

    Good luck, Bad luck…who knows?

  3. I don’t know how a person winds up cursed. I certainly think a lot of it has to do with perspective, attitude and if there is a theme in the bad luck or a pattern, finding the lesson.

  4. This is a big talking point around here. Is it hangover from a past life – you’re working it off? Is it all due to free will and the choices you make? Do (some) people who are close(r) to God, suffer more?

    It’s quite strange. I really like hearing people’s views on this. :)

  5. I just assume there is a bigger plan that I know nothing of. Maybe someone with bad luck is learning to have faith in God in this life no matter how bad their luck is.

  6. @Caracadabra – good example. I read that fable in Considerations Magazine many years ago and often refer to its message.

    Elsa, my brother was like your husband, no matter which way he turned luck was never on his side. Such a decent gentleman all his life, a Marine. I thought sometimes watching his struggles the Universe gave the ‘no luck with bad luck’ life only to the strong people on this earth for the rest of us to watch and learn.

  7. I see it as a balancing out. If I take away the labels “good and bad” from events, then I have the freedom to move through whatever events occur with grace. They are not in my control anyway. J

  8. Reminds me of a Nietzsche quote I stumbled upon a while back: “The most spiritual human beings, assuming they are the most courageous, also experience by far the most painful tragedies: but it is precisely for this reason that they honor life, because it brings against them its most formidable weapons.”

    Now that’s just one guy’s take on it, but I thought it was interesting enough to scribble down in a notepad. I do think there is some truth to it. Hard times can teach perseverance, gratitude (for what actually isn’t going badly), and strong faith, all of which make for a richer, more lively person.

  9. This way, too, I can just feel the feelings, have the reactions, keep things loose and alive so that even through the uncomfortable times, my connection to my heart stays intact.

  10. I think anyone who lives with an extraordinary, indomitable spirit gets pinned with a lot of the bad juju that we, as a society, collectively create with our cowardice. We seek strawmen.

    On a spiritual level, it seems to me like the deeper you go, the greater the paradox between being cursed and being blessed.

  11. According to the ancient Hawaiian art of Ho’oponopono, everything that happens to us is really just an old program or memory replaying….from ourselves, our family, our ancestors. It says we are 100% responsible for not just what happens to us, but to others as well, because when bad things happen, what is the one common denominator? You are there. I would say that your husband is carrying the memory of ‘bad luck’ and its just like a computer program…you have to delete the program. It’s fascinating stuff.

  12. My most recent ponderings have been about inheriting. Just like money and genetics, we inherit emotional wounds and ways of approaching reality: functional and non- functional. The money that was made on one side of my family was accomplished by the “drive to succeed” using anger and deep hurt as the fuel. My Grandfather’s father took off after getting my great grandma pregnant. My grandfather grew up as a bastard in the 30’s and 40’s. This fueled a deep distrust in my Scorpio grandfather’s perception of the world. He used this fuel/ drive to successfully make money as a self employed engineer. He is wealthy, but still rather confused and unhappy at 89 years old. When he retired at 84, he took to drinking. His daughter, my Taurus mother, fueled by the desire to prove herself and win approval from her emotionally stunted father, has not grasped that she must accept and love herself. Her drive to succeed, too, is fueled by an unsound resource, a perspective on the world that does not foster well being: that she can win approval from outside of herself by being successful. This drove her through years of long hours of work and school and she has accomplished a great height: the VP of a hospital. But, unfortunately it came at a cost: she does not know or know how to accept the hearts of her children. She sits on monetary wealth but can’t trade it in for true joy.
    So, now it’s my turn. I have inherited these misunderstandings and must spend part of my life unwinding the dysfunctional perspective and grow/ learn a healthier approach. I make my own money, with little help from my family. I live poor, as a single mother, deeply in student loan debt. But, the education I have is as a healer. And I spend my time meditating, honing my craft, caring for my daughter, and unwinding my mind/ heart from these unsound perspectives. I am learning that if I take action with ill/ unsound intent, I lose out. But, when I am focused and cautious with my intent, I win. And the reward is not money. It’s joy.
    I have had to start over so many times now, it’s exhausting. But, I use the drive and strong will I inherited from my mother’s side to fuel myself through making my choices from my heart- not my pocketbook.
    I see it as cleaning the money for my daughter so she can become the amazing artist she already is. I am Scorpio, my daughter is Sagittarius.
    My family would say I have bad luck- no man, no money, no love and acceptance from my own mother. But, I see it a little differently…

  13. @ Caracadabra: we must read the same books. I posted the same Chinese fable a month or so ago lol.

    I agree a lot with what’s been said. It seems that those who suffer the most are here either for Karmic reasons or/and they are highly spiritual beings who have a channel open that most do not and therefore in order to balance things out and alleviate others sufferings, they themselves suffer more than most. Of course, this doesn’t explain those living in hell-stricken places.

    Perhaps it’s also preparing him for whatever may occur in the future. It’s all confusing and not many answers can be given.

    It’s awesome that he can remain very positive and still enjoy life.

  14. You got it, dorchid. I recently heard a radio interview with Canadian philosopher René Girard, one of whose ideas is that ‘the scapegoat mechanism is the origin of sacrifice and the foundation of human culture, and religion was necessary in human evolution to control the violence that can come from mimetic rivalry’. If you stand up you stand out: tall poppies syndrome.

  15. Some people are born into bad circumstances and its what they do who they around that can make it worse or lift them up. It takes some maturity. But other times its out of their reach and they really need help. I know I have bad luck. My jupiter is retrograde and domicile something was bad about it. But anyway, the little ones born in Malawi had no choice to be born their, that is bad luck. Yet then again, I think of the story of the rich man and poor Lazarus who was a homeless man begging at his door every day. So eventually the homeless man died and the dogs licked his wounds. The rich man died and he went to a fiery hell while the poor man who “reaped evils” notice the word “reaped” went straight to Abraham’s side. And the rich man saw the poor man through a chasm and said tell Lazarus to put water on my tongue and Abraham said he couldn’t so the rich man said at least warn my brothers not to come here! But Abraham said if they won’t listen to Moses they won’t listen to me. I believe they weren’t abiding by Moses law, not sure what that one is, but I am guessing charity. You know if you see someone down on their luck you should help them out. I can’t tell you enough how I know when someone does a dharma deed it comes back to them while someone who does something bad gets bitten on the butt. Can’t stress it enough? If instant karma doesn’t come immediately I am guessing they’ll end up similar to the rich man in the story. The lesson in my opinion was don’t wait until its too late to love your neighbor because it will come back to haunt you. My biggie is helping out my parents! They treat me bad and expect me to help them its a rough situation. Because I don’t want to help someone who treats me poorly. So I get confused. Anyhow, a curse comes in many many forms..
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsOhODrm67k
    That video link is from Derek Prince a Britt who converted after meeting Jesus literally. Only he knows.

  16. DarkAquarian..very good insight! I completely agree with your comment.

    some food for thought for sure.

  17. Jupiter in Sagittarius in the 12th house. I’ve been saved from drowning & other close calls.

    I also believe in lifetimes of karma balancing and learning. What’s that saying?.. Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle. And this one I know from experience,

    “There is nothing you can do that I have not already done to myself” ~Mindless Self-Indulgence

  18. Jupiter is in my 12th house too.
    I’ve had lots of stuff happen to me too I wonder when I’m going to get off of this wheel. Just tonight I gave my cousin an anatomy book but my mother took it away when she found out thinking that it should go to her grand daughter. She upset me very much because my cousin will be going to med school soon and I wanted her to have it. So I took it from my mom who supposedly wants to see it, and I am going to give it to my cousin. I am tired of the way my family treats me, its really bad sometimes. Then as I went to a Christian store I gave my dad directions I said make a left at the next light so he doesn’t think about what I said he makes up a lie and says I was the next light over and he throws a fit with me in the car. So I had my cousin’s mom take me home later after I went to the family christian’s store. But as I was on the bus I came across a freaking saint, I don’t know if she is literally or from earth or what? She said I should pray to get rid of my tunnel vision, hinderances to bind satan and more. She is saintly because she cleans old people’s feet for a change. I really admire her. I felt better after talking to her. And.. she was helping a poor little girl who has a mean mother as she tells me who always helps her little brother. She was sooo advanced for her age, like literally she understood our conversation and she she understood the woman was calming me as I am was getting a little anxious about things. So anyhow I got a book for my grandma she probably lost it and I got a book or two for myself. I lucked out on the ride and meeting that woman, teresa on the bus. I wondered who she was?? She recommended I read a poem by St Teresa of Avila called “Do It Anyway” and say said my grandma prays for me which is true and that I should pray to get in the music industry which is a passion of mine :) I really needed to her her talk to me. Over what Dark Aquarian said I really feel I fit in between both categories I may have done wrong things and that I help others in strange ways but I may have to undo some of the things I have done now

  19. My Jupiter is in Crappy. I’ve often had absolutely terrible luck. My friends often say that I’m the worst lucked person in the world. I don’t feel the same though. I’ve always gotten over all crappy situations, and I think that that shows good luck. Not everyone gets over shit in their lives. :)

  20. I would attribute my bad luck (or more accurately absence of good luck)to Saturn conjunction Jupiter in Libra. I have observed that if I put all my best in a given situation things might not turn out well but at least the worst of the worse can be avoided. If I put anything shorter that my best, it’s rare that things end on any note of well. I am talking here about situations where I can have any influence on the outcome. Surely, I’ve learnt precious lessons and in many ways got stronger and wiser. But also got weaker, cause there is no rest..And sometimes I just don’t have enough resources to keep up.
    As far as things happening for a reason (implying a good one), sorry but it doesn’t always feel like that from the inside. It certainly gives hope and helps to reassure one’s self by rationalising the life’s paradoxes. And I have to “indulge” too in these kind of thinking from time to time in order to keep my spirit up. But, as a greek writer said “I hope for nothing. I fear nothing. I am free.”
    I strongly believe that it is much more empowering to accept that bad things happen to good people too, that things can get bad in spite of all good intentions and efforts, that we don’t all have been dealt with the same amount of pain to experience in life, that bad luck can sometimes be plain bad luck, etc. I prefer accepting the cards that I have in my hands for what they’re worth and try to play as good as possible for me and everyone around. From that point and on I prefer letting the cosmic energy flow. Outcomes might be good or ill for the individual, the group, the short-term, the long-term, from this point of view or another, but in the universe all is summing up to neutral finally and we are just a tiny tiny part of it for universe (or god for some people) to bother..

  21. I attribute my really craptastic luck not to Jupiter but to Saturn chasing the p. Moon for 14 years, then had a reprieve for 8, then had it again for the last 4 years which culminated in me losing my business, my home and having to move 3000 miles away to a family that I’d long ago distanced myself from. People with bad luck should check their charts for that transit, it can last up to 29 years straight, enough to drive any sane person ka-razy.

  22. I was telling my neighbor the other day about someone hitting my car while it was parked and breaking my light. She said “you have the worst luck. Bad things seem to happen to you a lot.” I see it differently. I told her “things just happen to me a lot.” Sometimes I don’t think it’s for me to decipher whether it’s good or bad. It just is. It’s just an attitude I’ve adopted as a way to cope. I used to just think I was getting a bunch of shit because I deserved it. That my things always break because I suck at taking care of them. Or I’ll get in trouble for something that someone else did because life has rejected me in some way. It’s hard to have bad luck and not see it as a sign that you don’t belong here. I’m working on figuring this out now. The above coping mechanism is as far as I’ve gotten.

  23. I would attribute alot of my bad luck to my neptune conjunct ascendant opposite jupiter. It seems as though I am lied to and taken advantage of. I guess I cant see it through the fogginess of neptune. I give , they take and I get a hefty dose of disillusionment. I always think people will come around to see me and do what is right but they can not see me , as though I am invisible. Hard to have any luck while being invisible. I guess that is the hand I have to play, like it or not but does anyone else have a neptune issue with luck?

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