Yes, I are. But I signed on for better or worse so here i am.

I’m at the edge … can’t negotiate anymore. Feeling like DO OR DONE !! taking too much on my plate since 2008 … tired ..

Elsa, It may interest you that just this week both husband #1 AND #2 were both hospitalized 2 days apart in the same hospital, same unit. #1 has Sun in Aries April 8, #2 has Sun in Aries April 5. 18 degrees and 15 degrees respectively!

(((Sona))). Feel with u. Been there.

This Thurs. the transiting sun conjunct chiron will be conjunct my natal jupiter 5th house and oppose my natal moon 11th house. Where shall I hide?

That wasn’t the best wording because it isn’t that my needs “will never be fulfilled”. It’s more like my needs are now more realistic and I know now that what I crave in love is not love. More so Passion I guess which isn’t nessesarily love.

I want more as a matter of routine. I have learned to
(a) accept this about myself and
(b) accept that is unreasonable to expect that my needs trump what another is able to give, as well as
(c) not be so facking uptight about it, lol.

I have also learned that I don’t deserve every single thing I want (nor does anyone else) and it isn’t the end of the world to be told no. I have Saturn in my 8th natally and I learned all the above when Pluto transited my 12th.

Really, most the time when I don’t get what I want it is no big deal.

Oh boy. Timely post. I’ve been in my current relationship for 2 years & we have the same argument over and over again. He has a stellium in Scorpio (including Moon, Venus) and I have a stellium in Aquarius (including Sun, Merc, Venus) so maybe you can guess what the problem is. This guy needs soul-bearing conversations nearly every night of the week, and I just can’t deliver. I’m perfectly happy with our level of communication, but he’s constantly begging for more. If I tell him that I’ll try harder to be more communicative & expressive of my feelings for him, he says things like “But I want you to talk to me because you *want* to, not because I need you to”.

O.O

This does not compute.

I get so much of A,B,C,D and E…that when I think about not getting F, G, H… I turn it off. I have this great guy. But he is a mess. (the kind of mess that destroys the house and does not pick up a thing after himself)

I get everything I need from this relationship…except his messy stuff drives me crazy. I knew he was a mess when I married him. I saw his home. It was a science project. He was in mine and saw my OCD cleaning events He even said one time when we were loading the trunk of the car after shopping…”you know I am never going to be able to place all the items in the trunk of your car facing NORTH” hahahaha…. and I said oh….I am well aware of this.

We are Oscar and Felix. I have to overlook this and just clean it up…and he has to smell bleach… that’s just the way it is and has been for 16 years. This is really nothing in the grand scheme of things.

Nope, not anymore. Now when I say I need a,b,c he gives it and gives it good to the best of his ability, he may drift and need a reminder (his nature). Why? Well, at some point if you say I have these BASIC things I want and expect to get in a relationship and I don’t get them I’m gone. This takes looking yourself in the mirror and saying if I were to define my basic needs in a relationship what would they be? Often times for men sex is their A,B or C. For women it’s often other things and many women move the ball.

Men can get confused. So reminding him of the A,B, C that was promised and agreed upon gets it for me. I don’t like having to say hey, you need to give me and demand it but there is that ADHD thing again…

The irony is that he spent a number of years thinking I wanted a zebra when I wanted him. Now he gives of him. Zebras aren’t discussed anymore.

Been there, done that. My husband of 29+ years had 4 planets in Scorpio in 4th house. He was rude, hateful, score-keeping (inaccurately), much more a child than partner. Did the treating him and talking to him same way he treated and talked to me. In my case it didn’t change anything. That progressed for about 7 years, and though I could call him on his behaviour and back him down, he only found other ways to treat me poorly.

Finally, on his birthday (Nov. 5) he told me he wanted a divorce. Had found someone he obviously thinks will mother him and put up with his constantly simmering anger.

Funny thing is, she has 1/3 of my chart. Same sun and moon in same sign and house. Same aspect to moon ( biggie – Pluto square Moon). Venus in same sign. But in her case lots of Leo. Long story short, they have a worse chart comparison than he and I did.

Conclusion. Divorced now. Not the first time he has cheated either physically or emotionally. I moved 800 miles away and am going on with my life. I am still reeling but know that I was never going to get b, c, d, e or any “letters” from him other than financial support. And since he cheated I’m getting that without having to put up with his anger and aggression. I really believe that I will be better off in the long run.

I certainly hope your partner is smarter than mine was, Nonetheless, and learns what you are trying to show him!