The Scenario Post Saturn’s Transit In Libra – What To Expect With Saturn In Scorpio
Astrology in real life.
I remember when Saturn first went into Libra, I wrote about how being high maintenance in relationship would go out of vogue. You don’t hear people boasting about being high maintenance anymore, and it’s an improvement.
With Saturn in Scorpio, people who are energy sinks are now on firing line. If you drain a person’s resources, or their precious energy of any kind, without contributing energy of your own, you’re going to find yourself shut out. Saturn has been in Scorpio for 10 days and I am already seeing this happen all over the place.
Neutral is neutral. But if you are in the habit of taking and never giving, or of being a negative force in the lives of others, this is going to be a very rough transit.
How well do you understand energy exchange? What do you see out there?
43 Responses to “The Scenario Post Saturn’s Transit In Libra – What To Expect With Saturn In Scorpio”
Saturn in Libra definitely taught me a lot about giving and receiving in relationships.
Ok, so now Saturn in Scorpio intends to make sure energy exchanges are even. I do not want to be a negative energy drain, and I want to make sure I’m providing something in return to others.
My resolutions for Saturn in Scorpio
1. Do not give too much energy to people who are hopeless cases.
2. Do not be an energy drain with my negativity.
I’m feeling the energy exchanges between people, and I realize that will be key in developing a new economic system.
Totally seeing this in my world and also believe it’s a great improvement. It is now so much more crystal clear where to invest my energy- boundaries have never been easy for me, so you can understand what an improvement this is personally.
Boundaries was THE lesson of Libra for me. There was a lot of upheaval in my relationships across the board and the common thread was my instituting for the first time in my life…BOUNDARIES/fair exchange of energy. Needless to say this did not sit well with long time friends and family and I had endings arise because of it, endings that were a long time coming. I also turned the eye on myself in that I see where I allow imbalance (doormat,nicey nicey southern girl syndrome)out of not wanting to rock the boat. I also read somewhere that when you set yourself in relationships where you are the one doing all the giving and don’t allow receiving it is a form of control, I can see that. I can see where it’s a block to intimacy because you never put yourself in the vulnerable position of feeling like you owe someone something. Know what I mean? It makes sense to me, I recognize that psychology in myself.
Take responsibility for your pathology!
(not directed at an individual – generally speaking)
the sentence should have read…*I can see where it’s a block to intimacy because you never put yourself in the vulnerable position of feeling like you owe someone something or you never get to get involved in the true intimacy of a balanced exchange of energy.*
It’s alright Elsa…I can take it! Just kidding…*wink*
taking responsibility ….. if only that were a common attribute.
I was just discussing with a friend of mine yesterday, that one of the major faults of our society is the inability and unwillingness to objectively put in effort. She is a teacher, and sees this every day with her students. I said, “I wish people would step back from their situations and view thew world in an objective manner. I think more individuals would carry their weight if they could see things from a perspective other than their own.” She agreed.
I am always conscious of the energy balance between people. I’m also finding it harder to maintain relationships with those people who do not work towards an equal share. I spent most of Saturn in Libra learning about my needs in relationships and how they relate to other people. I gave everything I had. But I have since realized that getting nothing in return just doesn’t work.
I will give you my world.. but if you aren’t willing to give me yours, then why should I put in the effort?
I recently had a girl leave my staff because I confronted her on the lack of effort she has put into her job. She wanted no part in being told she needed to actually do the job she was being paid to do. According to her, I attacked and accused her and she found it offensive.. the truth is, she was lazy and milking the system. I’d given her plenty of opportunities to improve her situation over the past year, but in the past week just finally had enough and let her know it.
As I said.. I will give anyone my world and everything I have to offer; but if you aren’t willing to give back, then I don’t need you and you can go away.
So, just yesterday I had a couple of friends over, who are big into the Burning Man scene, as well as the whole festival scene. They taught me a new word. Sparkle Pony. Within the scene, there are many camps set up. Different groups of people working together to make it through the weekend. They build shelter, cook meals, bring in water, offer different experiences up to the larger community. Everyone is expected to pitch in. A sparkle pony, the term is widely used, is one of those girls who thinks that just walking around the camp without a top on, or totally naked, is enough of a contribution to the camp to warrant being able to utilize the resources of the camp.
Hopefully, Saturn in Scorpio will bring an end to this entitlement.
I stop feeding my money to my hubby that I was doing since last 7 years, he felt shocked… he was very happy to take my money and using it without showing any respect to me. No he is not showing any respect to me still now, but atleast I have restrain my money eating guideline. Saturn in Libra (my 2nd house as I’m Virgo Sun) has teach me this idea. I don’t know it has teach my hubby (Pisces) anything at all… he seems very much sympathetic for his family, who sucks him the most and as best as they can. Probably Saturn in Scorpio is making him doing that …
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Oh, now it is. Weird. It must be browser issues ongoing from the other day.
I just wanted to say I agree with this and have been pulling back my energy from unbalanced relationships. It wasn’t clear (for me) until near the end of Saturn in Libra, as to how much I was giving and not getting back. Hopefully that insight will remain for some time if not forever.
Shuuun! Shun the sparkle ponies! Shuuun!!!
Do you think there will be any justice for the people who did give too much during Saturn in Libra?
Hiro, no. Saturn in Libra was about boundaries and balance in relationship. If you continued to over give, it’s the price of an education. Sorry!
Elsa, I wonder if Saturn in Scorpio would also have a tendency to bring about a higher incidence of “stalking,or obsessive behavior” in relationships? I already know of 3 people close to me who are having this issue come up within the last week or so…
Saturn in Libra taught me boundaries and as well as that with some people there is no such thing as there being a fair exchange of energy. Support me but I wont support you. Come with me here but I’ll make an excuse to come with you here. Buy this for yourself but I’ll be the one using it. Plus now that Saturn has touched Scorpio this whole lack of responsibility I’ve seen from people always seems to come back to me in little ways, looking over a situation and people lack the responsibility to own their shit or their part in the shit. It’s exhausting. I no longer have the time to tell people what their part is any longer. Play the victim or blame another and it’s not owned.
You brought up a really good point that I didnt consider. I was thinking about the energy takers in my life, and how I tuned 2 of them up already in the past week or so. They were there, but I didnt really fight back and I allowed it to happen to me over and over and over again, but now I realize while i have a responsibility to not allow energy sappers, i also have to be aware that any old depression I have I need to take care of, too, to not sap the other “good people” in my life of their energy, as well. Good Point! xo
Mercury still isnt happy with me. I talk too many different things – I’m told. Out personalities show up every where.
When does merc go square to saturn or other powerful beings, i’ll have to check.
Woot! Woot! I have already dropped 3 (count them 3!) inequitable takers, energy sinks and just general delusion people who always seem to the victim and never seem to be at fault for anything…Phew! If this 1/2 month is any indication of the entire transit my closets will be empty and a pile of skeletal bones will litter the curb in front of my house. Woot! Woot! to Saturn in Scorpio!
I am dropping one major one, and the other is my mom, who I can’t shake off (lol) but I can start to respond differently, which is a major lesson in my life and its time I learned it. Then I need to get the rest of my family to start seeing me as something different than being an indentured servant to my parents and family needs. At this point I would rather be invisible than be noticed for being a slave to others needs.
You go for it rosie…I know you can do it! I did 
The dumpster is full . I`m not climbing in again.
Seems like there are more takers than givers in this world. I like to help and “lift up” but I often get used..
Elsa thank you for this post!
This is exactly what i have been going through for over 2.5 years now.. its been rough.
I am tired of being the energy sponge.
Hey Empress Scorps!
Thanx for your posts
Feel it, too. It’s one thing is someone is really trying, okay, but those that just suck energy for their own purposes…
Two weeks before my baby was born I cut off my immediate family (all takers and energy black holes). Since then, the grandparents have had VERY limited contact with their new grandson. Of course, I would never curtail that entirely, but I’ve set some very strict limits to their usual boundary-less soul sucking negativity filled visits.
So after I told them I’d had ENOUGH of their high needs shenanigans I felt guilty and wondered how I was going to do this newborn baby thing without their (albeit limited) help.
Funny thing – help has come to me from many near strangers. Help has come from all sorts of odd sources. A Scorpio friend of mine starting calling everyone she knew who liked to cook to drop off food. And they have. I think I am miss independent but I am not. I am learning to be grateful and give back even when it is awkward for me to do so, and awkward to admit I needed help to begin with. I think that’s my Saturn in Scorpio lesson.
Recognizing that I cannot entertain their negativity nor make them tea and sandwiches while caring for my newborn has been a bit of a shock to my parents and parents-in-laws’ systems. BUT the time had come to take a stand, 10 years of being walked over had to end for the sake of my kid. Saturn in Scorpio means dealing with the fallout of your past social behavior, so this is their heaping helping of that. Good luck to them.
Scorpios usually get back what they have given out during saturn in Libra (Not necessarily the same thing) but it kinda comes back in wired way.
If you understand “Truest state in it’s trickest form” Now contradict that same statement.
You may (99%) not like it or fail to recognize. Scorpio is the rebirth of the fallen so it can raise again from it’s pyre.
Just my 2 cents and a dime
“Scorpio is the rebirth of the fallen so it can raise again from it’s pyre”
Love it
I unplugged the home phone yesterday evening (Scorpio moon) so I don’t get bothered by stray calls. I remembered that was something I had done during the last Saturn in Scorpio. It really helps me to retreat into my own silence. I still had the cell phone on, maybe I will turn it off, too, in a month or so…
My son is a taker of everything except personal responsibility. We are both Saturn Scorpio.
Gonna be interesting to see what happens.
I ended a long term relationship with a live in boyfriend who was not giving me what I required emotionally. He gave everyone time and energy except me and didn’t live up to his household duties whatsoever. He said I was a nag for asking him to pitch in. So I pitched him. It wasn’t easy as I felt emotionally dependent on him for the little I did received but I now understand that I needed an emotionally giving partner rather than a tough and strong one. Now I have a partner who does take care of my emotional needs and I no longer require alcohol and chocolate to fill the void! I am also learning how to let someone be who they are and not take too much time of my partner since I did demand a lot in my past relationship due to not getting enough. I am doing very well at allowing my current partner to be free, especially since my needs are almost always taken care of! I have Saturn in Scorpio.
I am not being barked at the moment. In conversation, there may be barking but it is focussed somewhere else besides me. I can let that go.
And if that isn’t enough, when I stopped in at the oh so yummy european bakery where $4.00 buys a taste of heaven, get this, there was small talk that I did not initiate. Courtesy plus continued as I trudged through errands. So do vendors want my money, or has the climate changed? And really what did the other clientele have to gain from striking up small talk? Must be climate change.
It could be my change. I am talking self respect. What can I say, I had enough of whoring myself by putting up with crap. I am not focussed on doing acts of love, showing love. The definition of that is so nebulous anyway.
My new tack is allowing myself to feel love, to be in a state of love. The rest will follow. If someone insists on trashing that, I really must retreat to rebalance.
I love coming here to read every ones posts while i have my coffee in the morning.
This forum has taught me so much
”My new tack is allowing myself to feel love, to be in a state of love. The rest will follow. If someone insists on trashing that, I really must retreat to rebalance.”
@notch
Me same!
This is interesting because my sister is very much a taker and I’m tired of it. I can bend over backwards for her and it’s still never enough. My sister is quite a flaky person and I can’t really count on her to be there for me. She told me that she wants to be in the labor room with me when I give birth and SHE is going to be the one to cut the baby’s umbilical cord, not my husband. I told her that she is not allowed in the labor room when I give birth, my husband will have the cord cutting responsibilities, and we will give her a call after the baby is born. She didn’t like that but I’m specifically stating in my hospital birth plan that she is not allowed to be part of my baby’s birth.
Lately I’ve noticed that if I sense myself becoming a bad influence, or an energy drain to a group, I’ll withdraw my energy and lay low. Rather that than hurt the group.
So far, Saturn in Scorpio has been showing itself to me Old things rising/ facing down your fears and discovering inner resources – Seemingly out of nowhere a strange heart condition has come to light which is an improvement on repeatedly collapsing for no reason anyone can name. I have a malfunctioning heart and stress only makes it worse so it is important for me to not be anxious when an episode starts but simply to make peace with it and ride it out, and to do this I had to embrace the possibility of death emotionally even though rationally I know I’m not going to die.
It has also meant standing my ground and overcoming a natural inhibition and distaste for drawing attention to myself in order to ask for things I need (seats on trains, medical tests) as well as discovering the resources I need to power through and keep on working and defending what I’ve built.
In Family Therapy my work has been especially productive since Saturn went into Saturn – a spike in people working noticeably harder to face down the issues that have been around for years and discovering new resources in themselves. Showing sides of themselves that I didn’t suspect they had.
My mother who has been driven by insane anxieties is able to be calm, helpful and rational. This is incredible because up until now she is the last person I wanted support from in any kind o crisis since it would have meant looking after me as well as her. Now though she is being tremendously helpful and noninvasive.
My colleagues have rallied around to provide support that I didn’t ask for and would not have expected to offer (sometimes it is helping me find a private space to lie down and watching over in noninvasive ways which I appreciate because the loss of dignity in illness is one of the things that hits hardest).
Needing to step up to responsibility has been all around from liasing with managers to campaign for them to commit support to certain projects to making sure the needs of the service users keep being met. Sorting the people I look out for into High Risk who need intense support and intervention and campaigning to get that for them with what resources I have left (knowing that my resources are limited and dwindling makes me very tenacious) and sorting out an alternative plan of support and care if I’m taken so ill that I cannot function for a while. I feel a tremendous responsibility for people on my caseload and it drives me when other things are spent. The most difficult thing to accept has been the responsibility others might feel towards me (e.g. the colleagues going out of their way to make sure that I get home safely). Although it is very difficult to see the toll I take on the time and resources of others and be the source of worry and inconvenience on another level I can see the bonds of loyalty being forged and knowing that even though my Scorpio Moon-Uranus hates being beholden to anyone sometimes debts need to be accepted and carried until such time as they can be repaid.
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I know at least a couple of people who are going to be in deep poo because they are takers.
My Saturn in Libra lesson was to not give more than I was receiving. I definitely mind how much I’m receiving as well.
Something I discovered as someone who usually gives too much is that there is a huge difference in feeling between doing a favor for someone who has no gratitude for the act, and doing a favor for someone who does. Even offering gratitude gives back some of that energy.