Good that your surface is gone. I am sick of people just existing on the surface (says Cancer sun 8th house – with Scorpio Asc. I probably will see you even if you “disappear”..

I like this assessment. It helps me understand my Pluto. I was born with Pluto in the 12th in Virgo which is my sun and my asc. Pluto was retrograde and direct all over my asc when I was a young child. It explains so much of what happened to me when I was a child and so much of why I am the person I am today. I’ve always been deep and heavy and most people don’t understand and aren’t comfortable with it. I totally get that. But it’s who I am. You can call me a lot of things, but you cannot call me fake.

Yes I like this assessment too. Ironically I have Pluto on my MC but Sun in the 12th. They square so I have to adjust all the time to being in the public eye. Luckily, my job allows me to surface and then go back into hiding several times a day. I need this to regenerate and have the energy to deal with front desk traffic.
Elsa, I am glad your Pluto transit is suiting to you. Otherwise, it might be stressful?

Thanks so much for posting about this transit. I’m going through it also, that photo from Apocalypse Now is utter perfection to describe the overall backround feeling of this transit. Transiting Pluto will be trining my Pluto over the next year or so but I’m not expecting frolicking times particularly because everything is just so so heavy.

I find great security in invisibility. And it is truly magical when someone happens upon me in my cave. They get it.

That picture is so scary!!! Maybe do some undercover work, inside jobs, private investigations, autonomous activities, mining, learn deep sea diving etc ????

I have pluto in my 1st now, so that means I lived that swampy stuff already??? Thanks for this message. Great food for thought.

It’s funny but I’ve been getting lots of advice from Sadge friends who went through it in the 1st before but never thought to reverse it for insight :°)

Thank you, Elsa. Just yesterday wondering when you would update the pluto/12 stuff. Feeling the same here, no interest in the public or promoting, feeling a hermit. Only problem is I do seminars and workshops for a living, so its greatly affecting income; who wants to listen to person dealing with deep issues? I think of Morrison and “Strange Days”. Friends have commented on my “withdrawal symptoms” and lack of spark. Have pretty much lost any common consumer desires, seem so trivial. Will come out pretty soon at 11 degrees Cap. Wondering how Sat hitting our midheaven will affect the overall picture of us cave dwellers.

Btw, friend going through same. Amazing how her life is dissolving…

I won’t live to see this transit, but when Pluto crossed my IC I got divorced and when he crossed my descendent I got divorced. I think I’m seeing a trend. In 2025, when I’m 77, he will cross my MC. Can’t wait to see what happens then.

The other thing I am going to do is bring communion to people who are dying (or healing) and unable to come to mass. Freakishly, 12th house/Pluto

I love what you share with us about this transit. I had Pluto transit my 12th from 18-32 years old and am just starting to decode it, especially as it was a transit that took up (so far) almost half of my life span.

I was just wondering why you seem to post less and less on the blog, Elsa…

I’m a big fan of the blog… It’s like a stars guide to life and I hope to keep reading you in the future, near and long term!

Keep going, please!

Mucho love!
-Pepe

….come to think of it, ” Apocalypse Now” is a Uranus sq. Pluto nightmare of a movie if there ever was one….

yeah I love that bout Cap…the embracing of aging wholeheartedly. It’s part of aging well I think.

This is my experience of pluto through the 12th and then the first:
12th: I forgot myself and instead opted for a corporate career, which was never a good fit for me, and was never going to be .
1st house: various body issues related to decision taken during 12th house transit – excessive sweating due to stres; bad sex life; extreme awareness of my body’s limitations
Pluto has just moved into my 2nd house, and the implications of the 12 and 1st house transits are becoming clear. I am no where near as rich and contented as I should be.. and I am speaking as a jupiter in cancer person.

This explains my 20′s and will be going into my early 30′s well… Soon it will cross my Asc, exciting

Elsa, you have really helped me through your blog.

Having natal Pluto in the 12th conjunct Saturn (and after just having gone through my first Saturn return), I can totally relate to what you describe. It’s a dark place and no superficial relationships survive. But the few that do survive are worth gold.

Wishing you only the best.

Welcome, gem with scorp. I lost my daughter a few years ago and most my friends too, with pluto transiting 11th. Total wipe-out of my wishes, hopes and dreams. This is a much easier transit, at least so far.

I had Pluto in the 12th all through my early childhood: it’s 2˚ the H11 side of the line. It was brutal, and I was invisible, forced to hide as best I could. It wasn’t until I was 11/12 and got to a good school by my own efforts, that I emerged from those pits.

But Elsa, Elsa! In 2020 you’ll still be younger than I am now, and by a few years I think. Less of the old troll, please hahaha

Since 2006(until 2015), pluto is transiting my 12th. I think this is a hermitage transit. I was completely inaccessible, invisible, buried in my own private workings, living in absolute solitude and non-communication. And I loved it. I do not believe religions, but if I did, I could well join a monastery, to get buried in learning all the more about some spiritual/ esoteric/ philosophical teachings. I could well begin to live in a mountain top, if that was possible. I’ll have my first Saturn Return in January (in h10), and just recently I began to think that it would be better if I had a more social or public occupation, including communication with people. Loving to spend time on your own is fine, but with Pluto transiting h12, the desire to recluse & retreat is extreme, and this tendency does cause financial problem and trouble at work. It was almost a torture to have to communicate with people, simply because I had nothing to talk to anyone and my mental and psychological state was so irrelevant with things daily or usual.

In my case, paradoxically, being very deep or non-superficial drew very dull and superficial people to me, in a way that they were obsessed with me, stalked me, obsessively in love with me, obsessively revengeful towards me (because I did not want to befriend them) -which was quite irritating. Also, this transit can be responsible for some psychic disturbances (If you already have psychic abilities)

Welcome, rimli and iseekserendipity

Sometimes the time to release being in the public eye just comes. Sounds like you may be there. I am enjoying a much more private life than ever, since my second saturn return when I realized i don’t really want to “help people” much anymore!!!

I think the time is coming for another generation to hone their care-giving and counselor skills.. and we boomers are ready to relax, retreat,meditate,enjoy our families and our homes, our own adventures at this point..??

As elders we are available, but it’s time for us to explore another path…

one of my spiritual teachers, Ram Dass, says “we are in training to be nobody special!!”

I could not get with that statement 10 or 20 years ago– NOW I get it !!

Hi Elsa,
I was thinking /now that Pluto is about to enter my 12th house/ it can´t be that bad. During my childhood I had Saturn, Uranus and Neptune transiting there and I had very difficult childhood. Used to long for reaching adulthood so that I can run away from my parents and live on my own. Those transits were all squaring my Mars/Pluto conjunction and Venus in Libra 8th. My parents used to quarrel day and night. When Saturn was transiting my 8th house I was once again put to the role of a peacemaker and a negotiator for a couple of friends that were divorcing at that time and I was their only employee. I can imagine the flavour of what´s ahead of me. Only hope for some psychic power to surface.

Thank you, Elsa

Thanks, Wren and welcome.

Welcome, Lana.

Pluto has been transiting my 12th house for what seems like forever. It finally leaves in Feb 2014 next year. I can already feel it lifting. During that time I have been unstable in almost every way, have had numerous bad relationships and moved county a billion times. But I have come through unscathed and with a far deeper understanding of almost everything. Not to mention a far better person. The thing I noticed most, aside from social anxiety, was my sudden unwillingness to dance. Sounds like an odd thing to say, but it’s true. I always danced and now that it’s lifting I do again. There was some sort of lack of joy and a grey cloud over everything. But like I said, I genuinely think the tunnel was worth it. I’m just glad I didn’t know the transit existed when I first went into it. The prospect of 14 years of that might have been enough to send anyone loopy.