Saturn In Scorpio: Managing Energy (For Good Or Ill)
Astrology in real life.
PixieDust asks on Astrology Problems:
“Where/How can you maximize your positives and deal with your negatives?”
I don’t think a person’s energy is the same as person’s appearance. It’s possible to have physical features you may want to play down, but when it comes to expressing your soul and your humanity, I don’t know that anything you’ve got available is inherently negative.
I believe all energy is neutral until directed. For example, electricity is energy. You can use it to light up a Christmas tree, or to fry a man in an electric chair, depending on how you direct it. I see the energy shown in a person’s chart the same way.
If I am right about this, the way to maximize your positives is to change your perspective. If there is something in your chart that tends to be expressed in a negative manner, try to come up with a positive expression of the same energy.
As an example, Mars in aspect to Saturn has a horrible reputation in astrology. It’s seen as cruel. However a person with this aspect in their chart has the ability to really master their Mars energy. This means a person with Mars in aspect to Saturn in their chart can be a cruel bastard…or a black belt in karate.
Bottom line, your negatives are positives and maximizing your positives is a personal choice.
Do you have a harsh aspect in your chart that serves you and/or others well?
17 Responses to “Saturn In Scorpio: Managing Energy (For Good Or Ill)”
Positive Prospective equal Health, Happiness, Peace, Confidence and Courage
Yes- I suppose that Venus in Scorpio 1st sq. Uranus 10th is a good example. Upside potential includes using the flighty strong attractions to the unusual helps me to be a good teacher, for instance. I can get very charged up about the value of my quirky students and their contributions. I can also roll with unexpected, even shocking events and find it easy to integrate art and improvise. Students like the way I respond to them.
I think this same thing can make it easy to connect deeply with people quickly, it’s just a matter of figuring out what to do next that has been hard.
Saturn is conjunct Mars in Leo in the 8th House. Not far from both these planets is Pluto in the 7th H. This stellium squares my Sun, Mercury and Chiron in Scorpio. Your post and particularly this paragraph …
” Mars in aspect to Saturn has a horrible reputation in astrology. It’s seen as cruel. However a person with this aspect in their chart has the ability to really master their Mars energy. This means a person with Mars in aspect to Saturn in their chart can be a cruel bastard…or a black belt in karate.”
Leads me to appreciate how managing energy evolves with time. At my age I experience choosing, again, how to engage and exchange energy, especially in public. I find the need to feel boundaries at an arm’s length … out from my body so I can process and maintain the circulation of energy. More than ever the truth that I choose a perception to manage a relationship rather than to let the relationship or the placement in my chart lead is key.
I’m no karate master, but knowing how to find peaceful centers is a kind of mastery that benefits me and the people around me.
I have (libra) Saturn square ascendant in Sag (tons of acquaintances, with just a couple excellently close friendships), Saturn square Uranus in Sag (always a power struggle!), Saturn sextile natal Pluto in 1st house (people see me struggle/overcome).
Saturn conjunct mars in the 12th (Scorpio no less). I was a runner growing up and had countless injuries and medical ailments but managed to overcome each (and the mental aspect of starting all over again to get in shape plus missing out on races and feeling like I let down my coach and team). Over a decade as a distance runner I did manage to earn a college scholarship as a D1 cross country/track runner and achieve my long term goals. I think obstacles (Saturn) are always going to be present (conjunct) when I am going after my goals (mars) and sometimes the journey (12th) shapes me more and makes me stronger than the achievements alone.
Agree with kr. I have sun and moon square pluto and they can be a real bitch, but on the same token nothing shocks me and I am like a rock for people who’ve hit bottom.
great post! i have always believed this base concept
sure, there is a learning curve- and that is where
nature/ nuture plays in- either you get it early or late
or never…
it is always our choice- how to direct the
energy within the vessel!
sometimes it takes courage to rediret or ‘re-program’ how to use the energy- but once this is understood, noone can take it away… freedom with limits.
LOVE this post. It’s interesting how “negative” aspects manifest, and how people grow and use them positively: grand squares, the moon and mars/pluto/saturn/uranus, etc.
Grand Cross on the MC/IC/Asc/Dsc. I feel like I can go through things and come out the other side with lots more wisdom and courage. Because I’ve been in so many rough spots, I am able to stand without flinching or judging while hearing other people’s tales and to help guide them forward
I have a very busy chart and am loathe to consider any of my ‘negative’ aspects that.
Chiron/Mercury/IC square 8th House Saturn is difficult. I need momentum to speak my mind. I would love to be a standup comedian–every time I’ve gone to a comedy event I am the heckler. Loud. I can take the abuse in a spectacle and turn it on its head (5th House and Saturn in Leo) but personal interactions? I feel that Chiron/IC like nothing else. Just stab me in the face–it would hurt less.
I am proud to say many many people, my whole life long have told me I have helped them with my words. Even my therapist told me ‘it’s too bad you’re done with school because you’d have made a great therapist.’ I’m focussing on non-traditional healing work instead, an area I feel god gave me a gift in.
this helps me understand my mother better. i think she’s got her light side and her dark side of it. i certainly inherited a lot of ambition from her.
(mars/saturn)
Sun square moon is a challenge for me. It literally pulls me one way then the other – but on the positive, it means I rarely go into things unprepared as I have weighed up every single option!
My mum has a grand cross. It has meant a lot of very heavy weather for her – but when she triumphs, she does it emphatically. It’s inspiring, and I keep reminding her that.
My chart is not very harsh. The closest square is my Mercury square Neptune, and even that is buoyed by its complementary elements Air and Fire. My chart is overwhelmingly mild!
I do have Saturn conjunct Pluto though. That Saturn is in my 12th house Scorpio, and I have a Scorpio ascendant, so there is further exchange between my Saturn and Pluto.
Come to think of it, I also have Mars conjunct Moon, which can point to all kinds of ailments and anger issues.
As for positive expression: I am able to ground (Saturn) the volatile emotions (Mars/Moon) in others by diving deep into their psyche (Scorpio) with them. I’ve had several experiences where people share their deepest fears and insecurities with me. I am not only accepting of their shadow, I am keen to see them heal their inner conflict with it.
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Great post.
I think Sun/Pluto has made me tolerant. You just see the nastiest gunk ever with that aspect.
Seeing horrendous stuff can be a good recipe for tolerance because if you can see it in yourself that likely means you can cross the hurdle of accepting it in yourself and can therefore be compassionate toward the shadows of other people.