Do you belong to a clique?

July 23rd, 2012 @ 7:44 am by Elsa

Ask the collective.

I’ve been going to my woman’s club for a couple of years now. I’ve noticed the women fall into two camps. Those who belong to a clique and those who do not.

Our luncheon is held in a banquet room set up with tables for eight. There are women who sit together week after week, and other women who circulate.  It seems to be very natural.  We have one table of eight that is fixed; the rest of the tables mix it up each month.

I am definitely one who circulates.  With Mercury and Jupiter strong, I don’t want to be caught in a closed situation of any kind. I don’t think this is preferable, it’s just me.  At the meetings, I respect the clique and circulate around it.

Do you belong to a clique…or do you avoid belonging to a closed group?  How is this shown in your chart?


Ask the Collective, Astrology 35 comments   |   Posted at 7:44 am 

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35 Responses to “Do you belong to a clique?”

1.
BurnedBridge
BurnedBridge

I’ve had partners in crime (7th House Sun) but I avoid being in cliques. Too many politics to navigate and like you said it feels closed which violates my Sag sensibilities. Also, any clique politics probabaly turn off my Scorpio. So I’m pretty satisfied with having a one close pal in group situations and kind of just circulating among everybody in a general sense.

 
2.
electricmind
electricmind

hmm…nope. no clique here. i’m a loner first (neptune). and then i like deep one on one interaction (scorpio). and most importantly i like the freedom to move between different folks at different times (aquarius)

 
3.
Empress_Scorps
Empress_Scorps

I like to navigate 5th house Mars and Jupiter plus Leo ruling my 11th, I have to shine with everyone. I mean there are some I’m close to but I like to get to know everyone on some level.

 
4.
Kashmiri
Kashmiri

I avoid. 11th House Uranus conjunct MC, opposed Sun. I’ve left several groups over the years because I tend to feel trapped. I aspire to be both humanitarian and egalitarian…

I also come from a large family; we can be pretty tribal in our way of thinking and I try to escape that too (obviously–I left home at 16). Uranus/Moon.

I would prefer to be alone. I do very well with groups of people I DON’T know, but large groups of people I do know inevitably put me on edge and I have to take leave.

 
5.
sunnyP
sunnyP

As Kashmiri, I too feel trapped in a group. I like not knowing anyone (5h Aquarius Venus) and not having limitations put upon me; sense of freedom.

Pisces sun inner longing to belong however going by a strict group code isn’t my cup of tea. Things get stale after a while.

I cover all bases (aka different personalities) … I’m the same as I was in high school (many moons ago).

I’d say no. Even the idea of church is a turn off!

 
6.
Shannon
Shannon

I belong to a group, but it’s a very open group and people drift in and out as it suits them.

Mercury chart ruler, Gemini rising, Sagittarius moon, I’m not going to be stuck anywhere for any amount of time.

But I have Cancer planets – and they like having an inner circle.

 
7.
Kashmiri
Kashmiri

Good point, Shannon–I have an inner circle, too. They all know one another through me but none of them are tight with each other.

 
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Solaire
Solaire

If I were to chose between these two options I’d probably pick sitting at the fixed table. When I’m in a group I usually make friends with a few people and hang out with them. I’m open to talking with anyone and I won’t shy away from a conversation, so really anyone can join “the clique”. I simply feel safer in this small circle I made and I’m not so extroverted to try and meet everyone. But those who I do hang with, them I usually know very well.

Although, sometimes this all fails and I just let my Gemini Moon loose. Depends on the vibe the whole group has. If I feel it’s unsafe, slightly hostile or distanced… I just mimick that or do as I said above.Or leave.

 
9.
Solaire
Solaire

Oh yes, I’m strongly Mercurial, Jupiter only makes a square to the Moon but I do have some very important shit close to my IC and Cancer in the 11th.

 
10.
Elsa
Elsa

It’s super interesting to watch group dynamics. I am a cross-pollinator, lol. I do have people in the group who I particularly enjoy but I’m still want to mix! :)

 
11.
ruth
ruth

Aquarius rising, Chiron on the AC, Uranus on the DC. Nope, I’ve always been an outcast, a bit of a loner. I have the group of friends that I will get together with for dinners, birthdays, but other than that, I circulate. I’ve often described myself as a chameleon–able to shift my colors depending on the situation I’m in, the people I’m around. I still stay true to myself, always.

 
12.
Namaste
Namaste

This past summer, I started dipping my toes again with a clique I haven’t seen in several years. 12H Pluto in Libra secretly wants to belong, but 1H Sadge Sun, 1H Uranus, and 5H Aries Moon wants to go her own way.

So, I like belonging in groups, as long as I feel like I can come and go as I please, no fences. :)

I’d definitely be a flutterer at those meetings, Elsa. :)

 
13.
mike
mike

I’m an isolationist…I would never attend or join a club!

 
14.
Chelley
Chelley

I’m the person who finds a spot & stays there. I welcome (almost) anyone to sit around me & will have a great time chatting with new friends or old. But I don’t move. Capricorn Sun trine Taurus Moon, but Jupiter on Aries Asc?

 
15.
Elsa
Elsa

That’s cool, Chelley. We have people like that too.

I am personally, super co-dependent and mutable, so I take the seat I feel will be the least likely to offend anyone and then morph, however necessary to be part of the conversation.

 
16.
Blessed Place
Blessed Place

I’ve always liked clubs, bars, cafes etc where I know people, often over very many years – and there are always distinct groups within them. I’ve often been on the fringes of most of these – I get invited to people’s dinners and parties etc – but within those groups I’m never ‘core’ and like Chelley I tend more to stay separate (quite often at the end of the bar!) and let who will, come to me.

It’s a quite complex dynamic in fact: I’m a kind of gregarious loner. I have Libra, and Cancer in H11, so I’m a social being… but I hate feeling trapped or pigeonholed: Uranus in Gem conjunct MC
I used to get mad when anyone referred to one group I hung out with quite a bit as ‘my gang’ – No!

 
17.
xosunshinesoul
xosunshinesoul

If I ever found myself in a clique situation ~ I branch out immediately. Especially when I begin to sense the dynamics of drama beginning to brew among the women I might have found myself congregating around. In the end, I am a social loner. I socialize fine around others, however I prefer to keep to myself. I do have a family ~ and at the end of the day, I get a lot of positive interaction with my husband and kids. I’m fortunate in that regard.

 
18.
LisLioness
LisLioness

No. I’m not into the rules that cliques lay down; I do my own thing, and others are welcome on my trip, if they like the path I’m taking.

11H ruled by Aquarius; Venus conjunct Uranus and Pluto; Aries rising.

 
19.
Elsa
Elsa

Welcome, xosunshinesoul. :)

 
20.
xosunshinesoul
xosunshinesoul

Thank you Elsa ~ x

 
21.
music4am
music4am

I can go either way. Sometimes I like the comfort of a clique, when I can stand to be around them. Other times, I’m more a loner and enjoy socializing with everyone then be on my own merry way :) I think it’s related to where the moon is when,
Angie

 
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ScorchioScorpio
ScorchioScorpio

I don’t fit into cliques…never have. In the past when I’ve worked hard to ingratiate myself with groups, like the Liberal Democrat Party, they only let me in so far.

I can relate to Tom Cruise’s character in Eyes Wide Shut; they let you into their world, but you will never be one of them + they will never accept you.

I’m not bothered. I love my individuality.

 
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Dawn
Dawn

No. I never liked them. Of course I may have been in a clique when in High School, but I personally never excluded people. Just considered the few I hung with to be my “closer” friends. I have NN in Scorpio in the 12th house. I don’t do cliques.

 
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daisy
daisy

I too have mercury/jupiter I prefer to circulate. Plus my chiron is in h11 ruled by saturn using traditional rulerships. Mostly I just don’t fit in, uranus is in leo in house 5.

Hi, I’m hermie and I want to be a dentist, not exactly what a toy maker is suppose to be.

 
25.
debdeb
debdeb

I think “cliqueness” forms for 1 or 2 reasons. I’ll speak to what I’ve observed:
1) those requiring close-knit relationships more than they require new stimulus, tend to stay together, a la cliqueness. 2) those deemed (or self-dubbed) “cool” or popular tend to be in a clique – at the expense and exclusion of others. The 2nd reason obviously occurs more in, well, elementary and high school settings :P .

So *not* being the clique-type can often be explained by the fact that some simply need more stimulation, aren’t satisfied with their 2-3 solid friends but who prefer their 50 acquaintances (1). And the other reason for not being part of a clique might simply be because one doesn’t fit “in” with the cool or a certain type of a group.

 
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NeptuneinCursive
NeptuneinCursive

I can’t see myself joining a group, as in a community type of thing. But I’ve been in group settings like bowling leagues and such.
Anything too regular starts to freak me out and begins to feel like work (Uranus H6)?
Having said that, within the confines of my life, I do stick to my tribe and I rarely go any place without someone else, or without the knowledge that someone is meeting me there. My dogs even come into the bathroom with me, and wait while I shower. I think of this as Libra Moon.

 
27.
Jazz
Jazz

Absolutely not. I don’t even befriend people with cliquish mentalities because I like to bring in diversity and widen the group when it gets stale. Too many factors in my chart to name that describe my anti-cliqueness, but it’s interesting that you mention strong Mercury and Jupiter as “cause”…

 
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milano
milano

During times of particularly low self-esteem I’ve found myself getting sucked into cliques. It sounds weird but that’s exactly how it felt. I felt trapped and miserable being in a clique, like I couldn’t talk to other cool, interesting people because I would get ‘judged’ because the clique didn’t think they were up to par. Like being in prison/hell on earth.

 
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eris
eris

i don’t mind groups of strangers… i can usually find someone i can talk to… these days. but it takes me an _extremely_ long time to warm up enough to someone to really interact with them beyond, say, debating an interesting topic.

 
30.
eris
eris

saturn in the 11th…

 
31.
Robert Brown
Robert Brown

I agree with Milano. In the low self esteem days I wanted the safety of a clique. With Chiron in the twelfth I won’t fit into anyones box. Professional associations and religious organizations are a no no for me. When I am at parties I always try to talk to the person who is alone.

 
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Maria
Maria

Cliques are not my scene–I’m too Uranusy. Aquarius rising, Uranus in 5th conjunct Venus, can’t breathe if just ‘fitting in’. I tend to be a trendsetting Moon in Leo, but inconsistent. Pioneering, adventurous, Aries Sun in restless 3rd house, explores new paths and welcomes others along, but then suddenly I need a new track and disappear for awhile to reappear reinvented. Jupiter squares the restless sun, Neptune trines Venus so prefer past life cronies, Pluto squares mercury exact so don’t lay ANY trips on me. ‘Don’t fence me in’ people aren’t clique material.

 
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brizo
brizo

family peeps, friend peeps, that’s about it. It’s hard not to be cliquish with people you’ve known almost your entire life. More of an inside joke thing or I dunno, we all have the same values…so we think very similarly.

Otherwise, I’m a social reject, lol. And in this society, kind of proud of the label.

 
34.
Greekguy
Greekguy

Cliques are the story of my life! I’ ve been encountering them all over in Athens, Greece (where I live) – on both my professional and social life. The professional cliques are composed of rather mediocre (or even untalented) people who know they cannot make it otherwise in their profession unless they become part of a clique and indirectly “rise” through it, achieve high posts and wages through it etc. The professional cliques act immoraly, they step over and “trample” people, they violently marginilize the worthy ones etc. The social cliques are mostly composed of narrow-minded, insecure people who want to exert control over their social environment and avoid any new – threatening to them – experience!

 
35.
Elsa
Elsa

Welcome, Greekguy. :)

 

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