Since becoming a supervisor at work I’ve had to sign a lot more paperwork and I’ve actually been grumbling lately that I need to develop an autograph instead of a signature. But my signature, and my handwriting generally, remain stubbornly legible.

At least, I think they do. I had a coworker complain that she couldn’t read my writing, and I was quite hurt. She tried to make me feel better by saying she can’t read anybody’s handwriting: another consequence of typing all the time!

I’ve got Mercury in Libra, in the middle of my stellium in that sign.

I think I have rather pretty handwriting and I used to have a legible signature. however, I always liked the look of a stylized signature, one where it’s recognizable if you already know the name but not so much if you have to guess. so I consciously adopted that style. I like it.

mercury in pisces.

I such also add that I love handwritting, grabbing a pen is like a therapeutic process to me, unlike stubbing fingers at computer keys, which I hate. (you wouldn’t think so, cause I’m always here lol)

My signature has always been a little on the flashy side, but it’s legible (Aries Moon/Cap Merc). My handwriting has almost always been noted as very distinctive and good, so eventually I began training myself in formal calligraphy. I LUURV calligraphy, love finding that exact balance within the gesture to create a beautiful form. Love to look at it, too! Love words as art. Practicing it is a bit like meditation for me–if I haven’t had too much caffeine that morning! AND I’ve made a bit of money off of it here and there, but few people are willing to pay what the time for that kind of artistry requires. Alas, life with a small child is not charitable toward such hobbies. But tomorrow is another day, yes?

Merc. in Cap/Mars in Libra(in the 10th)

PS–I’ve studied graphology a bit, too. While I wouldn’t say that graphology will tell as much about a person as astrology (transits are the trump card there!), a good graphologist can glean much about personality from a handwriting sample–even if the sample is someone’s attempt at copying a form manuscript, like at school. But that’s where it stops, I think. At the personality level.

I once heard that Brown University required students to hand write their entrance essays because a graphologist looked at them. Most likely an urban legend.

My earliest memories of cursive writing involve me learning much earlier than every kid in my class (I had perfect printing by 8, and was writing by the time I was 9). Since everyone ‘needed to be at the same pace’, I was strictly forbidden to write until grade 4.

Then it was forbidden to print. It was highschool before I got to write (actually, print) like I wanted.

I had many gals in highschool compliment, and then emulate my printing style.

My handwriting was the only thing I was envied for, actually…no one envies being pimply and poor and this side of ugly (aww….poor lil kashmiri, lol)!

I write a lot for my job (hand written call slips for a very big courier company) and I am always offended when asked to explain something i’ve written!

Ass for my signature, it’s morphed greatly over the years and I’ve gotten routinely into trouble for not having the same signature…I swear it’s different every time. Having a 10 year British passport sucked, my signature when I was 19 was impossible to copy when I was 25, and as it was my own form of picture ID for most of a decade I was called on it by everybody (being refused to cash travellers cheques was a highlight).

I guess I can attribute this to Mercury opposed Uranus!

I’ve read that some schools are not teaching kids how to write cursive anymore.

Really???? That’s so crazy they wouldn’t teach kids that!
(BTW joana I love your writing, it’s very cool!)

I still handwrite, but it’s mostly for notes. I have trouble focusing when I’m typing sometimes since all of the characters are exactly the same and need to physically write something out in order to see what I’m trying to say.

I’m not sure how to describe my handwriting. It changes depending on the type of pen and what I’m writing. I print all of my letters, but they run into each other in places, especially when I’m in a rush, so it does have an odd appearance of half-cursive, half-print. If I had to write in actual cursive, I’d never write again. I can’t even read cursive without seriously stressing out my brain.

I once wrote a note for someone in a hurry, and they told me my handwriting looked “gothic”. Not sure what that means.

My mom, sister, and my sister’s daughter all have the same ugly handwriting… very little variation. It’s so weird. My dad writes in almost all capitals, with vertically narrow block letters… what the hell.

What an interesting topic! I love it!

I like to think my handwriting is big, bold, (Leo Merc) and distinctive (conjunct Leo sun) while being legible (conjunct Virgo Saturn), but in reality it morphs all the time depending on the variables (trine Neptune).
Interestingly enough, like s. I’ve also studied calligraphy, although not formally. I wonder if that’s a Saturn/Capricorn thing?

“By the way, graphology if you sign your name legibly then that means you are honest.. guess the same thing applies with email addresses…”

I have no idea what would make someone put forth a theory like this? It’s a bunch of HOOEY! Who created this theory anyway, I’m betting it was someone with beautiful handwriting and no other skills to brag about.

I guess there are no “honest” physicians, probably the only people with nice legible signatures are the evil lying politicians, but of course that isn’t true either.

The astrology chart will show handwriting tendencies if anyone should think it’s important, but I don’t see why anyone (past grammar school) would, given that its legibility (or lack thereof) is meaningless as far as major traits like “honesty.”

Now I’ll click the link to see what was said about e-mail addresses, that might be some other bizarre theory which is not based on actual research.

The theory is a bunch of HOOEY. Hopefully my post on this topic will show up because I think it is totally important that no one be judged on something like handwriting.

Pisces Mercury and I have never in my life had a consistent handwriting style but I looooove trying out different styles. A graphologist would say I was either unsure and confused about myself or a psycho killer. I always try to be so neat and fluid but usually I revert back to all-over-the-place and cramped. In highschool I had people ask me to write out things for them they loved my handwriting so much. My history teacher actually said “Charlotte’s in-class essays are my favorite to read, she just ha the coolest handwriting.” I don’t know what it was but I want it back!

I think graphology is pretty neat and I’ve studied it a bit. I disagree that handwriting has no “transit” equivalent as you can really tell what someone is going through in their life by how they write something. Examining the little things, like how the hooks on Gs, Js, Ys morph or become more choppy or pointy through time or how they are connected to other letters, or how they aren’t or how high the crossing line on Ts are. uarenteed when you’re feeling confident, your crossing lines and dots over Is and Js gets higher as well. Or vice versa. It’s one of those things, the more you study it the more there is to learn.

I think handwriting is a lot like painting or art. Some people have a knack for it, for making things pretty, others can’t draw for beans. Same as singing. People either can sing beautifully, cannot carry a tune whatsover, or something in between. But you can’t link ability to draw, sing, or write nicely to character traits such as honesty.

I always thought neat handwriting meant you were boring and organized, the Hufflepuff of the group. I had a little prejudice against girls’ intelligence/individuality when they had bubble handwriting. I couldn’t help it. I’ve always had super messy handwriting that I’ve slowly tamed, but I’ve glorified in the weirdness (Aquarius Rising) and it definitely changes with how I feel (Mercury in Cancer). I was always proud when people pointed out my messy handwriting.

I mean, this is Paris Hilton’s handwriting. http://abbymims.blogspot.com/2007/06/um-things-i-thought-you-should-see.html

TAKS aside (TAKS sucks), the loss of penmanship skills means we are losing an opportunity to develop certain fine motor skills in young people. But more than that, the practice of penmanship exercises parts of the brain that govern visual-motor processes and spacial discrimination. In plain English, when we eliminate teaching skills like penmanship and then reduce (or eliminate) art, we are cutting little brains off from powerful lessons in observation and replication. What does art or penmanship have to do with your future doctor? A lot. The success of science (or astrology, for that matter) is in the power to see what IS there, not what is expected to be there. The power to slow down and look for detail, the power of discriminating observation–the power to catch the thing you didn’t expect.

Don’t expect “keyboarding” to do that for your kid.

kashmiri- my signature does all kinds of silly fluctuations, too must be the mercury/uranus.
nobody’s called me on it, though.

it’s really mood sensitive, in my case- i can tell how i’m feeling based upon what comes out of my pen (but my moon’s in aquarius, so it’s tied up in that uranus/mercury thing, too.)

…the fine motor thing is sad… though i hated being told how to shape and form my letters and being graded on it. (angle and tilt and making everyone’s writing look like everyone else’s.) that’s nothing compared to a family member of mine with dysgraphia (fine motor control deficiency) which made homework miserable for him until he was diagnosed in his junior year and allowed to use a laptop for writing assignments. and his english teacher told him he was “too smart to have a disability”!!!

then again, i have to badger high school students to not pull out their calculators for simple computation (multiplying single digit integers, for example.)

fine motor skills can be developed in other ways… particularly through art. but it’s not like we fund that all too well, either!

Without a doubt, the smartest kid in my elementary school classes had the most illegible handwriting; he was always being called out on the handwriting, which was very hard to read. Yet a friend of mine who was an artist with a beautiful and obviously legible signature made a steady stream of C’s and D’s and was always trying to cheat of me on tests. In fact she got me in trouble (got us both in trouble) by doing her little cheating thing when I didn’t realize it.

Physicians are notorious for their illegible signatures and their brilliance, and I think its pretty much the opposite with lawyers who, most of them, make flashy and/or perfect signitures. Everybody knows that lawyers are rightly reputed to be major liars and physicians not so much.

If anything I would guress that there is a correlation between high intelligence and terrible handwriting including signiture.

Assessing ones honesty based on the legibility of their signature is a form of discrimination with judgmental overtones and that is why I take such a strong position, Sonia.

As to the fine motor training, beautiful handwriting can no more be taught than artistic natural talent or melodic singing voice, and to suggest that people who write poorly don’t take the same amount of time and care as people who wrrite well is another judgment call which I think is wrong and dangerous.

“It just wouldn’t have had the same effect if he had put an illegible scrawl, would it?”

Sonia – I agree with you. My signature says, “I have total contempt for being forced to sign my name”. ::smiles::

Mars Mercury, what can I say?

S – I completely agree and feel the same way about handwriting and guess what – I’ve got Merc. Capricorn/Mars Libra too, except it’s my Mercury that is in the 10th.

Becca – I agree wholeheartedly.

Kashmiri – did you find my handwriting clear enough? Sometimes I think so but my mother comes behind me and asks: what is this letter?! Is this an A?! No way.

My handwriting or cursive starts out neat, but quickly turns into scrawl. The letters start to get big and the writing gets crooked. My Mercury is conjunct Saturn in the 12th. Maybe it starts out serious and then disappears into the ethers?

I also attribute this to keyboarding.

Also, my mercury is weak by both sign and house.

Folks, i am from india, and follow vedic astro. 3 house is for documents communication lower brain etc. Planets in 3rd, 3 lord point to H W. Signature is comm. about yourself to the world. 3, Lagna(1) can be considered. Karak for writing is mercury and for self (ego) sun. All these planets should point to nature of H W. Graphology can be justified on the grounds that 3 is also lower brain. BTW my vedic chart is Cancer asc. jupiter in 1 , mars in 3, ketu 4, moon 5, sun merc 6, venus 7, saturn 9, rahu 10. Dob 7.1.67, 20.30hrs, 19n00 72e52.

Gees wears glasses

I have nice handwriting. And I sign in a very simple, legible manner. I write in cursive mainly, because that’s what I was taught. It’s also prettier. My Mercury is in Scorpio in the 3rd, and I too have Mars/Mercury. But I find it manifests itself in how I write (fast, fast, fast) then in the shape of my letters. The same happens with the way I read, think and speak. I have Libra on the cusp of the 3rd house, I like my proportionate, aesthetically-pleasing handwriting.

There’s basically no difference in the way I write my name in cursive and when I sign it. The only thing it says about me is that I’m not overly creative with signatures and am too lazy to make a complicated, tougher to duplicate signature.

There’s one main reason why graphology wouldn’t work with me. I heard that if you cross your t higher than you have high self-confidence, if you cross it lower your confidence is low. Then I realized that how low or high I cross my t’s depends entirely on which letter came before or after that t, because I connect letters in different ways. And I’m very confident.

I also have Mars in Libra in first house as well and I’m not sure if that has something to do with having neat handwriting. I was once told by an astrologer that I have so many planets in my first house that it indicates I’m very creative which may be why I have nice handwriting.

I’ll respond to this old posting. As you often comment, Elsa, a natal chart shows the available energy, but not necessarily how the individual will direct it (free will)…transits & progressions can help decipher the directed energy preferences, but not entirely. I think that how a person writes, including their signature, does show unique personality traits (directed energy), but not a very “big picture” of that individual…rather like seeing a stranger at the grocery store and sizing them up based on their appearance at that moment. I do believe that how a person types on the keyboard is important, too. There are messy typists that misspell, insert extra letters or words here and there, or have their fingers on the wrong part of the querty keyboard and come up with their own “words”. Compare that to the person that probably took typing class fifty years ago and tries to type correctly! Whether hand written or typed, it’s all communication. Communication is an exchange between an individual and the “other”.
I would argue that the very placements and aspects in a chart that would indicate an effective vs non-effective communicator are the same as not knowing how an individual will direct that energy. Someone with wonderful placements and aspects for relating and communicating could be the least effective at that task, just as the reverse could be true.

Hmm…this is interesting. People have ALWAYS commented on how beautiful my handwriting is for as long as I can remember. Sun conjunct mercury in Taurus, (as well as mars conjunct mercury) in the 5th house…maybe beautiful, and creative writing/communication style, perhaps?

Hmmm…

My handle is my “virtual” name. It’s derived from a family name that has died out. I get a lot of shhhhht for it, but my “real” name was already taken, and I am old enough to remember when you weren’t supposed to put your real name online. I have since created “real name” emails and profiles, but darned if my password is recognized. :::shrug:::

My signature at the end of personal emails and notes is a derivation of my first name, but lowercase. Gah, with autocorrect.

My physical signature is the same shortened first name, almost just initial, but capitalized, and then cap/lowercase last name. It’s quick, stylized, and legible. Did I mention quick?

First name is 14 letters long. Has.no.time.to.spell.it.out…

Mercury in 5th, smashed between Jupiter and Saturn.

I do get compliments on my handwriting, more so my stylized print-script. Almost never use “fancy” cursive anymore. No one remembers how to read it, and it feels sloppy and unnatural.

When I write poetry, it is a very tight and clean print-script.

Virgo hates sloppy, Libra hates waste and ugly. Leo mars says get it done, and well (with a bit of flair, of course).

I love to write with a pen, and a pencil. ‘Penmanship’ was my first love and letters continue to be magick for me. While the world of my early years were confining, I found the way through with a pencil. My Mercury is in the 10th House in a stellium in Scorpio. I still like to write letters, though not as often as I used to. What’s interesting to me is how I have two very distinctive, and different styles of writing “cursive”: one is flowing and slanting gracefully, the other is more upright, roundish letters and probably more the Capricorn Moon (in the 12th) the climbs upright in secret places…maybe? Hmmm…fun stuff. It’s the stuff between the lines that bears the mysteries.

My email address is the shortened version of my first name, “Jen” and my surname. My signature isn’t legible at all. The most practical explanation for this is two-fold; my name is long (15 letters altogether) and I sign things all day long. I have mercury in cancer, conjunct Venus and Saturn, trine Jupiter, trine Uranus, and semisquare mars. I also have mercury opposite my ascendant in Capricorn. There’s a lot of Saturn on my mercury, I don’t think that generally makes someone honest but, in my case, it seems like it makes me disinclined to bother lying when it’s so much easier to simply tell the truth.

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