Introduction (And A Look Back) At Saturn In Scorpio

I’ve got quite a bit of Capricorn in my chart. Consequently there has always a lot of focus on Saturn on this blog.  Slews of posts about Saturn in Libra. Slew of posts about Saturn in Virgo. I expect to do the same with Saturn in Scorpio and I am starting to think about this now.

Saturn in Scorpio will be in mutual reception to Pluto in Capricorn during this transit. This has got to be a real boon to anyone willing to work (Saturn) with dark energy (Scorpio), or anyone who wants to come to terms with their shadow and deal with reality, even it’s putrid.

I want to think about this some more, before making pronouncements. This is not a light subject and I’ve just got to drop down a few more degrees in order to address this properly. Being Saturn-ruled, I’ll be taken to deeper realms, automatically so it’s just a matter of waiting to land there and then looking around and describing what I see.

One thing you can do for insight, is look back at the last time Saturn was in Scorpio.  That would be 1983-85, roughly. Even if you were born during these years, consider the time you were born into.  What were things like then?  If you are older, what happened back then?

Personally,  Saturn in Scorpio hits my midheaven (and Neptune).  The last time Saturn transited Scorpio, I changed careers. I had been tending bar for years, from the time I was 15 years old and I became very disillusioned by it.  You might say I figured out what alcoholism was but in any case, my ability to work in a bar dissolved. I got to a point where I wanted to send customers away just as soon as they sat down which a definite impediment to success in the field!

I wonder if I will change careers now. While it’s possible, I don’t really think it’s likely. Astrology doesn’t hurt people the way drinking your ass off all day in a bar does. I had two customers kill three people back then, while drunk…and some other stories. Luckily, I was not serving these people when the accidents happened but that didn’t matter. I knew if I didn’t get out, it would only be a matter of time before someone did kill someone on the beer I had served them, so I got out.

That anecdote right there, embodies the energy of Saturn in Scorpio.  One way or the other, you are going to encounter death and loss and endings of various types.

This does not mean things don’t end well.  You may be at the bottom of the well for a time, but eventually you do come up.  I never wanted to be an old lady tending bar so if this was the method by which I avoided that fate, I really can’t complain.

What do you remember (or know) about 1983-8, when Saturn transited Scorpio?


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Introduction (And A Look Back) At Saturn In Scorpio — 77 Comments

  1. unfortunately, my dad committed suicide in ’85. i was 2 years old. and this became the biggest taboo my family ever had to deal with. so, scorpio signature all over it.

  2. Elsa, this scares me. I was told that October is when things will get better for me. Saturn will be leaving my 9th and going into my 10th house of career a little before it goes into Scorpio. How will this be for my career? I am a Taurus sun and Capri Rising with Sagi Moon. Please help! This year has been so exhausting and difficult so far. I really need some light at the end of the tunnel.

  3. Also back then, my grandfather (Saturn) died and I took responsibility of the aftermath, cleaned his house out and such. I dealt with his will and his legacy. This event wiped my family out (from my perspective).

    I met my (still) friend, Ben and was very close in when AIDS emerged in the collective.

    I lost a man I loved in a way that was devastating and humbling for me.

    Ultimately, I left the city where I grew up at this time as well, leaving what I thought was a bombed out shell behind.

  4. My parents moved us into a camper without water/electric in the middle of the driveway while they built a house that they could not afford. My grandma passed. Things got pretty dark, and I grew up far removed from “normal” society.

    Smirks…darkly dreams of running away to deep woods with my survival skills and my camera…realizes it might be the urban jungle, this time around.

  5. As for the death of my bar-tending job, I had some fits but wound up being hired at Frito-Lay (ahead of a man with a business degree) and becoming very successful (#1 in sales) in my new, grown-up job.

    I slowly rose to the top like cream, in Capricorn style!

  6. two weeks after i was born in 1983, a murder spree started in my small town. they tracked it to a band of 3 fugitives from alaska who were hiding out in my dad’s motel, just a few blocks from our own house. my family was evacuated by the national guard and a swat team descended upon the motel room. there was an all-night shootout between the fugitives and the swat team. finally in the wee hours of the morning, two of the fugitives did a mutiny and surrendered. either they shot the ringleader or he was shot by law enforcement.

    my family was really scared (my grandmother, mother, and three older siblings and i an infant hid in our bathroom, which was the only concrete portion of the house to protect us from stray bullets) and the retelling is one i heard a lot as a kid.

  7. i don’t know. i was born then. although i appreciate this…

    “This has got to be a real boon to anyone willing to work (Saturn) with dark energy (Scorpio), or anyone who wants to come to terms with their shadow and deal with reality, even it’s putrid.”

    i’ve got capricorn/saturn and i’ve got scorpio/pluto. and since i’ve got through this pluto transit over my neptune then ascendant jupiter and square my moon, i’ve gotten increasingly familiar, dare i say comfortable, with dark energy. or at least being able to acknowledge it and even work with it on some level.

    this has made me somewhat of an oddball to the folks, which there are a lot of, who wish to remain in some fantasy world where they let their compulsions run them yet still try to paint a pretty picture of it. i just don’t see it that way and i end up raining on a lot of people’s parades.

    needless to say, i’m looking forward to the empowerment that comes from saturn in scorpio. he’s on my midheaven now, then pluto (2 scorpio) then mars (12 scorpio) then saturn (16 scorpio).

  8. here i am enjoying my jupiter lifestyle as an adult. guess i’ll have to ‘go home’ back to those darker days. hopefully i can handle it better this time around.

    ((((lucy)))) sorry to hear of your loss. i hope saturn delivers you a permanent peace this time around.

  9. thank you, dorchid :)!
    although, i think i have found my peace, or at least thought myself how to talk about it. my family didn’t. maybe we decide it is time to bring it out into the light :)

  10. This passes over my 3rd House and IC. From 83-88, there was a lot of upheaval in my family; death, estrangment, my parents divorced. I was a young un, and I took it in stride. I’m Sun-ruled, but Saturn is a heavy hitter in my chart and rules my Sun.

    This time, I’m going to settle into a comfortable distance from my family. All my life there has been family (or at least in-laws) within 30 min of me. Once my sister moves out of state, the closest will be my parents, 2 hours away. When my dad retires, the plan is for them to leave the state as well. That might be during Saturn in Scorpio.

  11. Lucy, I’m so sorry for your loss.

    In 1983 – 1985 I was probably the most intuned with who I truly am in my entire life, although I wasn’t aware of it at the time. Making this statement now, looking back on where I was then and what I was doing. I was my authentic self then, but I didn’t know it. Then Saturn moved into Sag, my first saturn return and I was determined to change my life. I did and it all led me to where I am now. I wish I had everything going for me now that I had in 1983 – 1985! Recently, while driving through an area that I spent time in 1983 – 1985 I was thinking to myself, look at this, this is all I ever wanted. You didn’t have to move away, you didn’t have to get married. Everything you’ve ever wanted is right here.

    Saturn in Leo was my 12th house. Saturn in Virgo was my 1st house. Saturn in Libra is my 2nd house. I’m really beat down by now. I have a ton of Saturn natally. Saturn in Sag will be my 2nd Saturn return of which I’m hugely dreading. I’m hoping Saturn in Scorpio will be a couple of years of a break so to speak…

  12. I was born at the tail end of this. I remember the 80’s as a dark, sad, almost Neptunian time. The music had a sad ethereal twinge to it. I remember crying at the news because a 12 yr old girl had been abducted by security guards and they played “Wind Beneath My Wings.” That song has always been so sad to me. I remember having bizarre encounters with strangers on the subway. The worst one being when me and my dad were approached by the Zodiac killer’s copycat and he asked my dad what sign he was- not making this up!- my dad had just seen this guy’s face in the newspaper and was scared shitless, but didn’t show it, in Scorpio fashion. He told the guy he didn’t know his birthday since he was adopted (lie) then we ran out of the subway and to the police! I was around 5 at the time- NY was pretty crazy back then. We also had a drug addict living with us when I was around 2, because my mom had taken her in and was oblivious. Luckily nothing too bad happened. Dark times.

    @Dorchid, holy crap that’s intense. Glad your family made it out ok.

  13. I was 3-5 years old. That phase started off idyllic, then did a 180. Transformative, definitely, but not in a way that I can easily articulate at all.

  14. I have Capricorn Rising with my Sun/Moon in Capricorn. I also have my mid-heaven in Scorpio (22nd degree), so I don’t doubt it will all be interesting.

    I can see the change in occupation, but I’m pretty optimistic about Saturn in my 10th.

    I was 9-12 the last time – fortunately, I have a diary from that period that I can check up on. :-)

  15. Pluto will be in the 10th for my father. Is that really going to be bad for him? He has been going through a horrible time health and business wise already. Pluto is around his MC. It’s bad all around.

  16. ((Lucy))

    I was in the first years of a climbing career; my father died during these years; priorities would shift … attending to my son would rise to the top.

    It’s good to look at Saturn from this angle. I have plenty of the energy as well and see how those climbing years and losses have been a continuing theme in my life. I’m into the ought-to-be-retired years but find a wonderful new sort of energy to blend the lessons of the natural zodiac as Saturn energy parks in the House with my Sun/Merc/Chiron. An era of healing and understanding the power of depth and words.

  17. “I’ll be taken to deeper realms, automatically so it’s just a matter of waiting to land there and then looking around and describing what I see.”

    This is how I have been feeling too, I have a large stellium in cap, so pluto is transiting all that, plus with saturn entering scorpio it will be travelling through my 8th house and conjuncting my natal pluto. I think this will give a preview to my saturn return when pluto will also be on my natal saturn in cap. Going to the depths for sure…who knows what I will find?

  18. I remember a lot from that time. It wasn’t pleasant for me even though I was only between the ages of 11 and 13. This occurs in my 9th. I’ll be learning..just like I did then, even though the lessons were really tough and not so pretty. I’m ready this time. <3

  19. i was 6~8 years old… unfortunately i carry no memories of those days. But Saturn was starting to enter my 7º 3rd house. So i guess my immediate environment had gone through many changes. I know i didnt talk much, and had phonology issues. My natal Sat sits at my 12th, and natal Pluto on 2nd.

  20. My family moved house and I had to do long walks and biking to get anywhere. Venus, Sun and MC in Scorpio, I guess I started to be responsible for myself.

  21. I am so sorry for the people who had such tragedy during the last Saturn in Scorpio. Actually this post relieves my mind a lot.
    since saturn will be conjunct with my natal jupiter and neptune. I was in law school in 83-85. I was living with my husband. Life was good. In the summer of 1984, my husband was diagnosed with melanoma 4th level. But he survived!!!

  22. 1984 saw the divorce of my parents and the destruction of my family. It was not a pleasant time and I am concerned about what that means for me this time around. I spent every year of my life since then trying to rebuild myself a family and I hope this doesn’t mean another loss of equal magnitude. (not that I’ve ever been successful at rebuilding it) Maybe it will just mean the abandonment of that dream.

  23. I was 8-10 years old. I plan to heal delusions I’ve had about my family and family history — this is in my 3rd/on my IC. I’m really looking forward to digging in and dealing, though I am sure it could suck at times — I get a trine to my sun and a sextile to my Asc but then I get Saturn/moon and Saturn/Venus.

  24. I’m so sorry for everyone who went through tragedies the last time Saturn went through Scorpio.

    Would someone with a lot of Scorpio energy be more at home in the period when Saturn goes through Scorpio?

  25. Cecile, not necessarily. I would say no, actually. Exceptions would be people with Capricorn or a strong Saturn signature.

    Also, the condition of natal Saturn has play.

    Someone like me is sitting pretty well. I am comfortable with Scorpio, Pluto, Capricorn and Saturn and I am old.
    Also, Saturn is very well aspected in my chart.

    So you have to consider the whole picture here.

    Also, I met my friend, Ben at this time 28 years ago. He’s a 10th house Scorpio Sun, Saturn ruled (Aq rising) and he was really devastated at this time. Profoundly.

  26. in 84′ my boyfriend who who was 33 was dying of cancer. I was crossing back and forth into Tijuana to get medicine for him while he pursued alternative therapies in San Diego.

    That summer I took him back to my apt in Portland OR and watched him slowly die before my eyes. I have never felt so cut off and alone. The world of dying seems so far away from the world of life.

    He died that October. By the way, he was a Scorpio with Venus and Mercury in Scorpio.

  27. I was recovery from a Pluto wipeout (family, home, pets, job) and trying to figure out what I wanted to do with my life. Saturn entered my twelfth house and I switched majors every month, lived in a crappy apartment (I hade no idea how crappy Neptooon transit natal Moon). I was alone. More alone than I had been or ever will be, I think. I learned how to trust my path….even when it wasn’t obvious. I learned to trust that it was there; it had meaning, and I could count on that fact.

  28. Thanks for getting back to me Elsa :) That’s pretty helpful. I have a lot of water in my chart and scorpio too – so I expect to be very much affected by this. And I draw in a lot of pluto, scorpio and saturn too. Overall I would say my saturn is fairly well aspected, so we’ll just have to see whether this energy agrees with me.

    (((Lakshmi)))

  29. ((Lakshmi)) and all those who lost people in that time.
    I was 10-12 in those days. Life for my family had already been turned upside down about two years earlier, my father had huge problems due to a politically connected powerful enemy – to the extent we had to leave our home and country. ’83-85 was when he was able to go back home to reestablish himself and our family started settling down a bit. I grew up a LOT.

  30. I’m so sorry for the losses expressed here. here’s to a better transit this time around.

    I hadn’t really looked back but I just did: lost my virginity with Pluto on my Mars, Saturn on my Neptune, both in Scorpio. shhhh… this is buried here in the comments, right?

  31. (((everyone)))

    It was some of the worst, most depressing days of my life. It’s a miracle I lived. I don’t even want to remember.

  32. Last Saturn in Scorpio totally transformed my life – and boy did it take big prisoners though. Marriage ended, lost custody of my son, lost all my friends, animals, property – moved to the big city, started a new career and fell in love for the first time just as Saturn moved into Saggi (first Saturn return).

    So looking back, there was the good, the bad and the ugly – an horrendous 3 years, then followed by bliss (with a tinge of sorrow).

    I figure this time I’m stable, am happy, and will heal on a very deep level.

  33. Scorpio- Sun Moon Merc,Capricorn- Venus Jupiter Virgo- Mars & Saturn Pluto- Leo. My 2nd Saturn return.
    I have just put a new plan in place to re-build my fiscal & creative life after 14 yrs of disaster caused by a spiteful ex.
    This was a surprise development/idea just like 1982-85 when I discovered I had talents I never thought I did and ran a successful business.

    Its going to be hellish and hard but so profitable…I’m restless with excitement but trying to get really healthy & clean mentally & physically before Saturn arrives.He rewards effort afterall.

    We should but never get used to Death and losing the ones we love!

  34. Well, it appears that’s when I lost my virginity — when Saturn crossed my IC in Scorpio! It was way overdue. I had to get over my ‘saving it for love’ apparently ‘cuz that wasn’t happening. Got it over with, which led me into my first real relationship with someone else. Probably had to have my ideals shattered first (Jupiter/Neptune at 0/2 Scorpio). Plus Saturn in early Scorpio sextiles my natal Venus/Pluto, helping that be fulfilled. Anyway, this time around I can’t lose my virginity again. ;-) I’m in a relationship, so we’ll see what else Saturn has in store.

  35. Wow, reading all these comments is making me worried!
    I was born in ’86 so I have yet to experience saturn in scorpio.
    But, come november it will conjunct my scorpio pluto 1H and square my leo sun 10H, I’m a little nervous:-/

    I’m a Libra riser, with aries moon 7H, so I’ve been going through saturn opposite moon and surprisingly it hasn’t been bad at all! I’m not sure why? I graduated college, got licensed, moved back to a town I love, and now finally have a job I love! More responsibility I guess, but in a very good way, I feel like I am where I am supposed to be.

    I hope this up coming scorpio transit brings me greater success in my acupuncture private practice I have been in the process of building up.

  36. My parents divorced and I was thrust out of my home and into a series of rough neighborhood where violence and drug abuse were everywhere. A series of babysitters who abused and neglected me. I personally had to learn to fight for survival, both literally and figuratively. Then both of my parents found new spouses who, though from complete opposing socio-economic backgrounds, where both raging alcoholics and extremely resentful of my brother and I leading to hidden abuse(Scorpio) of every kind. My parents were swept up with these people and they just stopped being parents because it “wasn’t fair” to their jealous spouses. The worst thing was that the other adults in my life didn’t believe me until years later. Left to fend for myself and younger sibling; the thing I remember most was helplessness and hopelessness. I have hope this transit (9th house- sun/ Mercury) will bring healing as I have paid my dues and learned my lessons very well.

  37. my solar return of 1983 had saturn and pluto conjunct my asc,I gave up on ever being allowed by my family and society to ever be me, that the gifts i was born with were unacceptable to the world and i went overseas plus down a very dark tunnel at the same time, its been a very plutonian, lord of the rings type adventure the 27 years ever since,but i did find myself again and with the first square saturn made to my asc again I began believing in myself and used this dark quest to find the way to serve best and ethically, I have been very successful in doing this journey, even though to the outside world with my current homeless etc situation i look to be a failure, it is only now as saturn finished giving me the emotional maturity exam 3 times over my 12th house libra moon and completes 3 passes over my asc that I am moving towards being fully back in the light at the end of that tunnel and all will be revealed. I have neptune in scorpio in my first house so been very successful at being hidden in plain sight, very well known for the work i do, without anyone knowing its me :) with the uranus square pluto both hitting my 9th house merc plus saturn squaring 3rd house sat in cap and 10th house nth node leo, publicly revealed is most likely, not sure whether famous or infamous yet due to the plutonian influence, but hey its a bit like, Bruce Wayne/Dark Knight example to me :)

  38. Going into my tenth as well with mercury Neptune and MH. I’m hoping it means a career change! In 1985 graduated high school. Broke free from my family! Had some horrible sexual experiences! Not a good entry yet did fall I love for the first time. So if that love comes back in that would be great! Still healing the sexual trauma of those years.

  39. I’m a Scorpio rising so while my Scorpio boyfriend was dying, Saturn was getting towards my Ascendant which is either 13 degrees Scorpio or 18 degrees. (different chart services see it differently.)

    On the day he died, Saturn was at 16 degrees Scorpio. His Sun was at 13 degrees Scorpio.

  40. It was a time of tremendous change/transformation for me. Like Elsa, I have a very strong Saturn signature in my chart (in the 10th in Cap, well-aspected, for the most part).

    1983-1985 were the years I spent in nursing school. That education has provided me with the means to make a decent living ever since. Right now, I am embarking upon another educational journey….hopefully, to be completed during this Saturn in Scorpio cycle….will it prove just as worthwhile? Time will tell.

    I’m so sorry to hear the stories of how this was such a devastating time for some. For me, it was a time of hard work and sacrifice that paid off in the end.

  41. Still in school in 83, it was a dark year. In 83 Pluto & Saturn held hands and had a final grind over my moon, and Neptune wafted back to my sun for a final meltdown. I was breaking, I was so sad. In 84 worked for a year to fund my departure. In 85, moved away from home to university in another town. I wasn’t in any state to study but had to get away. More breaking, lots of wildness. At the end of 1985 I moved overseas indefinitely. Continue wildness and breaking. Scorpio is 9th house & cusp of 10th.

    Lots & lots of changes extremes; all kinds. Those years into the mid 90’s were so intense, I was slammed. But I’ve got a bit of saturn and pluto goin on & I’m old now too. I can use it this time.

    And geez dorchid, that’s extreme.
    Love these saturn posts, really helpful.

  42. I gave birth to my first baby in March 1983. It definitely transformed me and my life but I don’t recall anything bad happening during that time. Now I’m wondering if that has something to do with the fact that Saturn was conjunct my natal Neptune then. I have often said that the 80s went by in a fog of baby-brain :-D

  43. Over that time period, I gave away my power; over and over again. I could’nt see myself and what I brought to the table – therefore, I didn’t know how to ask for what I deserve. I nurtured and elevated those around me, while doing nothing for myself.

    I now KNOW that I ‘bring it’, and hope that a relationship forms that is congruent with this knowledge; one that takes care of me and gives me back what I put into it… which is usually everything. I can’t ‘do’ relationship with any less than that.

  44. I was 9 years old in ’85 and saturn was passing throu my 5th house where i have mercury. At that time me and my little brother got separate fom mom and dad because they had to go abroad (dad’s job) and in my coutry at that time there was a law which didn’t alow parents to take with them kids who were at school, and we stayed at countryside with our grandparents. One year later my brother was retired from school (first grade) and they took him with them abroad and i was left all alone. I missed him so much at that time cause we were very close and we still are, and from what i heard later from my mom he was missing me badly too. And one more thing during this transit i got very sick, near to death got very high tempreture, but everything was ok in the end. After this transit i got reunited with my family and my dad requested to stay in the country and not go for very long periods of time abroad, it was kind of end for him too regarding his job.

  45. er… first grade through third. my connection with my mother broke down (her near death experience didn’t help.) my social difficulties/disorder first really started to show up. i became horribly depressed. the nasty nasty babysitter woman. my second grade teacher was sure someone was abusing me (nope.) had an disturbing interview with a police officer in the principal’s office. had no idea what they were talking about.

    first saturn square. fun times. i imagine i’ve learned a lot more by now. but good to revisit this business because i’m still carrying too much of it around.

  46. Thank you, Elsa. for all of your fine work and for AstroDispatch.

    I am Aries with Leo Rising and Moon in Scorpio. Between 1983 and 85, I left my home in OH to move to Philadelphia, PA, to attend graduate school. During my two years there, my grandmother and first dog died. Also, I ended a relationship with a man I dearly loved who wouldn’t leave his wife.

    What I find so fascinating is I left Oh two months ago for a position in PA. I didn’t want to leave Columbus, OH, but had to for financial stability. To date, my life is mirroring 83 to 85 with a twist – I lived in this part of PA during 87 to 93 and am working with many of the same folks from before.

    Graduate school was very difficult for me as the school’s director enjoyed ‘under my thumb’ tactics. However, I am a older and wiser Aries who has learned a lot and put it to good use during Saturn in Libra. Hopefully, I have more strength and moral resolve to handle difficult situation during the next couple of years,

    Life sure is a puzzle; it will be interesting to see how closely 83 to 85 predicts 12 to 14.

  47. just found out my super scorpio complicated friendship from my teen years… she’s actually probably going to die this time. cervical vertibrae going out and refuses to live on life support.
    i’m glad i’m done being angry, but this is not the next step i was expecting.
    figured someone was going to die with pluto le

  48. just found out my super scorpio complicated friendship from my teen years… she’s actually probably going to die this time. cervical vertibrae going out and refuses to live on life support.
    i’m glad i’m done being angry, but this is not the next step i was expecting.
    figured someone was going to die with pluto le

  49. Wild times. Everything happening at once, but I was young then. Gettin my ya yas out before the aftermath of the 1st saturn return. A big ol party.

    It maybe was a 12th house finish up before I made my big shift, which included change of locale and change of career. I was so baffled that the career that I had worked toward my whole life just fell flat for me and I just disappeared from it.

  50. I wasn’t alive in the 80’s so no memories…but I suspect my grandfather is going to die during this transit.His health is degrading rapidly, and he has been sick for almost 20 years. He’s now in a home and I’m going to visit him and witness his decay and eventually his death, something I’ve never seen before.

    Saturn will be transiting my 4th house and at one point it will pass over my Mercury, Venus and Pluto.

  51. Hugs to everyone who suffered and lost during that time. I wasn’t born then, but scorpio is hitting my 7th house. Beginning to feel uneasy but I hope whatever events happen will help me grow and transforn for the better

  52. Hugs to everyone who suffered and lost during that time. I wasn’t born then, but scorpio is hitting my 7th house. Beginning to feel uneasy but I hope whatever events happen will help me grow and transform for the better

  53. All I can remember was having a hard time trying to pass my classes, my high school boyfriend cheating on me and finally breaking up with him in 1985 the year I graduated from high school.

  54. I was just a kid, 2-4 years old. My sister was born in 1983 (I’m the oldest sibling of the 3) and we moved from a small apartment where we lived with Grandma to a big (albeit in really poor shape) house in the suburbs, with a large back garden. Me and my sister would play in that garden all the time. We also took a dog, I can barely remember him as a puppy, but there are glimpses here and there.
    I started kindergarten but can’t remember the first year or so. Interesting… what could this mean for now.

  55. This is the time we moved from an apartment to a house, and I was really relieved and happy about that. I loved the house.

    My marriage was disintegrating badly and continued until my Saturn return in Capricorn.

    Lots of time spent with friends, and my sister had even moved up from the Keys so a rare time living in the same place. The girls were very young, Feather was not quite in kindergarten yet.

    At the end, in 1985 we moved to Washington State from South Carolina.

  56. I was in 2nd grade-4th grade. Saturn had just entered my 5th house. These were the years I discovered what passion was. I declared “I want to be an athlete” and by golly I was a good one until it was time to do something else. Saturn changed my path as well when it crossed over my midheavenb 13 years later. Looking forward to discovering and pouring myself into a new passion during this Saturn through Scorpio transit. It’s going to be very interesting experiencing this energy as an adult.

  57. Scorpio is in my 4th and 5th houses. 1983 saw me still infatuated with an Aries I’d met the previous year. It wasn’t helped by the fact that two of his siblings were killed in car accidents during that time (1983 and 1985) and I had precognition of both events. My relationship with my boyfriend ended in fall 1983. I spent 1984 single, meeting my next boyfriend at the end of that year, although we didn’t get involved for another six months. I had major back surgery in spring 1985 and was in a body cast for three months, then started dating my boyfriend and moved in with him a few months later.

    I also started counseling during that time. It was rather intense but I didn’t get as much out of it as I’d hoped.

    Some things will probably “repeat” again but in a different way during this coming transit — I may again need back surgery or at the very least a greater focus on exercise, and am also hoping to start dating again following my move to the West Coast as well as get back into therapy.

  58. last time both saturn a pluto were in scorpio at the same time, they conjuncted with the travelling south node too, so no wonder, it was horrible

    this time only saturn is and it will meet up with the transiting north node, while pluto will be in capricorn in mutual reception

    what does that mean

    whatever pluto destroys and transforms, saturn in scorpio will solidify, it`s going to trine neptune and chiron in pisces, so it will be nasty, but not like a car accident, more like a tooth extraction

    example: if you have capricorn rising, pluto will be in your 1st creating a new identity, for the benefit of your 10th, which is in scorpio in this case

    think for a second, you can`t have your new career, while you still hang out with looser

  59. Elsa: How can one encourage/facilitate destruction of outworned structures with this Saturn/Pluto reception??…… How can one aid in a complete overhaul of inner blockages, limitations? for a strong Saturn chart

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