Pluto, Saturn and Mars: Power, Responsibility and Volatility

May 1st, 2012 @ 1:53 pm by Satori

“Anakin, how many times have I told you to stay away from the power couplings?”
–Obi Wan Kenobi

Obi WanThere’s a thread on the boards discussing the situation where a dentist vengefully extracted her ex’s teeth. It got me to thinking. I believe I know what I would do because I’ve been in a reasonably similar situation. However, the puzzle I found interesting was in trying to put together what astrological energies go into producing each individual’s reaction to such stimuli. You can never truly know what anyone will do, but you can see what they’re likely to do.

This situation is emotionally stimulating and multilayered, still some core elements can be isolated. The clearest would be Pluto and how it’s situated in the chart, power, where a person experiences power or its lack. There is also the input of Saturn, how one creates and reacts to boundaries, control of the self and other, and ultimately integrity, what that is and how it is expressed. Both of these are highly relevant in understanding where an individual is coming from in such situations, particularly where these planets interact with personal points in the chart.

That’s where one is coming from; if you want to know how one GOES, look to Mars, and in particular any aspects or influences it has from Pluto and Saturn-related energies. Mars is how one acts. Everything else is one long (or short) fuse; Mars is the bomb. No matter what you want to do, what you think about doing, feel like doing, what you DO relates to your Mars. This makes it really important to know your Mars and learn to service it so that it performs the way you wish in your finer moments.

Where is your Mars? Are you volatile?


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33 Responses to “Pluto, Saturn and Mars: Power, Responsibility and Volatility”

1.
Satori
Satori

discussion of the particular incident with the dentist here: http://boards.elsaelsa.com/topic/dentist-pulls-ex-boyfriends-teeth-out

 
2.
Elsa
Elsa

Libra.
I don’t think I am volatile but everyone else does. :)

 
3.
Namaste
Namaste

I have Mars conjunct Saturn in Virgo in the 10th. My Scorpio/Sadge can be vengeful/volatile, but if I were the dentist, most likely I wouldn’t risk my reputation/status/career (10th house) for revenge on an ex.

Depending on how we broke up, I’d (nicely/professionally) help his ass out. Otherwise, I’d decline and move on.

 
4.
Satori
Satori

(@Elsa) well then, it’s balanced! :D

 
5.
Satori
Satori

and Jennifer, thanks! that’s a perfect expression of what I was trying to say!

 
6.
Namaste
Namaste

I haz Pluto in 12th = hidden enemies. What I said above still stands; I don’t need to make new ones. :)

 
7.
mokihana
mokihana

I have Mars conj Saturn in Leo. The steam is controlled. Pluto is in stellium, just in the next House. I CAN be an internal volcan, not often explosive, but COULD. All this takes place in the 7th and 8th Houses.

 
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Satori
Satori

I have Mars in the 3rd house trine Mercury in Pisces and I have the HARDEST time remembering how to spell VOLATILE. bahahahaha!

my worst common mispellings: volitile, accomodate, knowlege, acknowlege… I find this hilarious. but I am also a large goober.

 
9.
Namaste
Namaste

LOL Satori. I spelled “have” as “haz” by accident, realized my mistake, and then let it go caz I’ve seen you spell it that way, so I knew you’d understand. :)

 
10.
Satori
Satori

I DID notice that, in a good way… “ah, fellow native LOLcat speaker.”

I also noted moki’s “volcan” and got that it was volcano as vulcan would be more Saturn-oriented. then I immediately made the “live long and prosper” hand in reverence, just in case.

 
11.
lotion
lotion

Mars at the end of the 2nd house at 0 degrees aquarius. It’s square my mercury pluto conjunction in 12th house scorpio. I think too much before I act. My actions always downplay the intensity of my thoughts…

 
12.
pearl
pearl

Mars in Gemini / 8th house in mutual reception to Merc in Aries. I can cut with words and I can dance with words. Sometimes my own thoughts are so all over the place that I may begin a story leaving out very important details and realizing I have to backtrack, but I also have a great ability to slide into gaps with my wit. My chart is highly occupied by Mars & a significant Plutonian influence. I have Mars-Chiron opposite Saturn. I’ve found it difficult to stabilize this aspect. Pluto in 12th conjunct ASC in Scorpio. I know all about some secret enemies & self-undoing

 
13.
Shannon
Shannon

Mars in Cancer in the 2nd is deliberate, not volatile. I’ve likened it to a nuclear bomb with a very (very) long fuse.

Except it’s squared to Uranus (Libra!) and inconjunct my traveling impulsive moon (Sagittarius!)

*chuckle*

Little stuff I vent over and then I’m done; my friends know that the more careful I am, the closer the fuse is to the bomb.

 
14.
Michele
Michele

I have a 5th H Mars (Libra) involved in a T-square with 3rd H Moon and 8th H Mercury. I do not think before I speak and I tend to be very aggressive (when angry) with my emotions and how I communicate them to people. If I’m pissed…it is not a secret. Thankfully, it takes a lot for me to get to that point.

3rd H Moon square 6th H Pluto….UGH.

 
15.
kr
kr

I think I need a consult just to deal with answering this question LOL.

 
16.
Satori
Satori

sometimes the best questions are the simplest! :D

 
17.
Kenji
Kenji

Mars/Saturn in Scorpio. When I’m pissed I surprise even myself with how dramatic my anger can be. Luckily my Libra is there to calm me down.

 
18.
Read_em_and_weep
Read_em_and_weep

Mars in Leo 4th wants to light shit on fire when it gets riled up. I also have Molotov Cocktail fantasies…

Flame throwers enter the fantasies, too…

Big, big fire…

Drama? I can do that.

 
19.
Blessed Place
Blessed Place

Mars in Cancer Rx conjunct Saturn Rx… so like Shannon I tend to smoulder for ages then go nuclear!

But I can also be pretty volatile – I’m quick to anger and can sound off in some circumstances… My Mars is busy but pretty afflicted: sextile Moon but opposing Sun/Venus/Vesta and square Jupiter/Juno/Chiron. It’s easily rubbed the wrong way with all that friction in the chart

 
20.
MJ82
MJ82

Mars/Saturn/Pluto triple conjunction in the 8th in libra. Sometimes there’s not ‘balancing’ out that energy. I can definitely erupt sometimes, and it surprises everyone including me… Did I mention they’re all retrograde..? Lol

 
21.
MelissaAbbott
MelissaAbbott

I have Mars, Merc, and Uranus together in Cancer in my 10th house. I can talk my way out of anything….

 
22.
Tam
Tam

Mars in Taurus in the 12th conjunct Gemini Sun/Mercury

One placid mood most all the time unless you ride my car bumper GRRRRR.

 
23.
Gabrielle
Gabrielle

Great post! Mars, Mercury in Capricorn in 9th – long wick – the truth cuts to the mustard when I blow.(Mars)Luckily not that often. . . .

 
24.
omie
omie

@ read em
I have leo mars in the forth as well.

My temper is hot! and over my kids, or house stuff, oh man!
On the other hand, Taurus asc,is pretty patient and my Mars trines neptune in the 7th, I am often pretty forgiving/understanding….

 
25.
mudlikesubstance
mudlikesubstance

mars/saturn conjunct in cancer square pluto. Nuclear is a good description. Either you cross my boundaries so far I go off or I ignore the problem for way way way way way too long and then I go off.

As for the dentist and the guy, both are incomprehensible to me. Why are they still dancing? Why are they still exchanging energy?

 
26.
Aeenov
Aeenov

My Mars is in Libra in the 4th House!

 
27.
Satori
Satori

welcome, Aeenov!

 
28.
josi
josi

Yes, I can be volatile. (Weirdness that I have trouble spelling those words too! and excercise..I do that one a lot).

I have Mars in the 8th in Libra conjunct Uranus, Pallas and Pluto and trining Saturn rx in the 4th (gemini). It feels like a ticking time bomb sometimes. But, I’m learning that even with all the horrid scenarios that play out in my head sometimes of the different types of torture I could inflict upon a person, I’ve got some hefty control over it. This is a new talent and I credit to what I learned over the past year as Mars transited my 7th house lighting up my Venus/Saturn square and then simultaneously, tr. Saturn was steamrolling my Mars/Uranus. Mars is a trigger point for me as it opposes my Chiron. When I’m hurt, that cluster of energy gets activated and it’s really not pretty.

But, I wouldn’t trade this configuration for the world. It’s like having a tiger at your side. If you are able to command it there is HUGE power. If you dont, it will eat you. The Tarot card Strength represents Mars/Pluto and I find that extremely fitting from where I’m sitting.

*waves at MJ82* Nice to meet you! I have a feeling you may know a little about what I’m talking about here with a Mars/8th house set up like that.

 
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MJ82
MJ82

*waves back* Hi Josi, yes I do… my Moon is also in the 8th and conjunct Mars, and while it’s a fairly wide conjunction, it’s applying. I am learning more and more about what pushes my buttons and how to avoid eruptions, lol

 
30.
ariesgal
ariesgal

Mars in Taurus in 9th house and Saturn on 4th house cusp opposing it… My anger just leaves me feeling sick … it’s all about teaching moments… Pluto is scorpio is where the trigger really is, if the issue reaches pluto in scorp, then God save you and me :(

 
31.
notch
notch

Mars is the bomb? Oh dear says retro mars. That can’t be good. No wonder I try to stay out of volatile situation. Implosion.

ariesgal, how in touch you are. Is that mars in 9th house of higher mind. Like do you have a choice?

I knew a kid who was born angry. He did nothing but kick and hit in the womb to his mom’s discomfort (putting her experience lightly). When he was around 8 years old she said he told her that he made a decision not to be angry anymore because it didn’t feel good. That it doesn’t feel good could be why it is often tossed off onto another?

 
32.
mist
mist

“Libra.
I don’t think I am volatile but everyone else does.”

:D that’s it…i just sometimes can’t moderate it. no one can at all times be fair, just, balanced and tolerant. not with Mars anyway :)

 
33.
Solaire
Solaire

Mars in Cancer in the 11th, opp. Uranus and square Sun.

I’m erratic, loud and ardent/ice cold when I’m angry. My fuse is both long and short (like I said, I’m erratic and I’m often very surprised by my actions).

I have the opposite problem from Elsa’s, people see me as quiet and calm, but I’m much more volatile. Mars/Uranus is just weird.

 


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