I adore this post. I’ve got the sun, merc, venus and pluto in Scorpio in my 10th house.
I work at a DV shelter, so yeah, it’s all there.

I hate denial. It’s something that has been growing all my life, and at the age of 25 I’ve finally come to a place where I can verbally say, “Cut it out with the denial, please.” to someone who is bothering the hell out of me with their total refusal to admit the truth. But their purpose in even coming to me is to have the truth pointed out, so it’s healthy that I find a way to say this. It’s funny that most people don’t actually want the truth told to them, they just want to be told they’re not admitting the truth. People seek truth for themselves. Learning this has really helped me because in the past I would just say “He’s cheating on you” or “You’re being a bad mother” or “You’re a drug addict” and that always went badly. Now all I say is, “Stop lying to yourself” and they figure out the rest.

and queenfluff, having both prominent is fantastic! particularly if one is aware of it. I think sometimes having both in confusing for some. when one type is validated it can make you doubt the other. it’s nice to know they come from separate sources, though they do often intersect in practice!

Thanks Satori! Yeah, it is an interesting mix but often confusing – but basically I like it because I seem to be able to make good use of it (even though I think it confuses others because it is my 1st house after all)! Forgot to mention – my Pluto is in Virgo in my 10th conjunct my Virgo Sun both at 24 degrees (19 minutes – almost cazimi). I do LOVE researching things I am interested in – I can research for hours guided by my Virgo love for details and my hunches to want to find an answer – love to figure things out and solve dilemmas! The Pluto and my Sun are also sextile to my Scorpio ASC and Neptune that are conjunct. They all seem to connect together – my Neptunian and Plutonian energies! I like to see this as a good thing basically because I know that Neptune and Pluto share some commonality over which things which they rule.

Scorpio covers most of my 9th house but actually is on the cusp of my tenth holding Juno, Mercury and BML. Plus, I have a pile up (including Pluto) in my 8th house. Natal Pluto is conj Mars, more tightly conj Pallas (less than a degree) and in a tight square with Jupiter in Cap (less than a degree).

I was just thinking today why the heck I’m not a detective. Or a teacher..lol

Yep. Pluto in Scorpio in the 3rd. I have Pisces Mercury so I might not (definitey won’t) remember exactly what you said but I will remember exacly how you stood when you said it, your inflection, your eye movements and your micro-expressions.

I LOVED Dead Like Me, just finished the series about two weeks ago. I loved the whole series but especially how Rube ordered food. “Bring my friend an oatmeal cookies and warm up it up for her.” “You only have them warm it up if I’m in trouble.”

Also Vincent D’onofrio in the old seasons of Criminal Intent. WOOF!

woops, that reply was meant to be for queenfluff – pushed wrong reply button

Hi Fiona! I am 42. You? For me, since I have that Neptune/Pluto in the 1st – my experiences are more like that quote from the Matrix by Morpheus

“What you know you can’t explain, but you feel it. You’ve felt it your entire life, that there’s something wrong with the world. You don’t know what it is, but it’s there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad.”

Like my Neptune knows their is a “veil” over our perceived “reality” hiding something – I am never sure exactly what it is but it seems surreal to me, like something is off in the world. I know there is “something” behind that veil because I can feel it – like I get message about it. I especially feel this when outside in nature – the feeling isn’t as clear in building (probably because their is a blockage but it is kind of a nice safe relief at time because other wise I think about it too much). My Scorpio asc sees through all the BS – so I see the energies as helping each out. I recognize (now) that they are different because I have learned enough about them to know that are separate but in harmony. Well, works for me anyhow. Both energies are still waiting for that veil to drop someday (and than my Virgo can say “I KNEW it! )

Anyhow, don’t know if that makes sense but that is what is it for me. I think the Plutonian intuition is a bit clearer and stronger than the Neptunian one that might be the difference. Neptune intuition, like Satori said, is “airy fairy” – is always right for me but the glimpses and feelings don’t come on as strong – that is where the Pluto comes in to strengthen it.

Feel the intensity of the stronger pulls and pushes presented to me ~ just one aspect of my Cancer NN in the 8th

Scorpio rules my 5th house, 8th is in aquarius and pluto is in aspect to my sun, moon, venus, merc, mars, jupiter, neptune, asc/dsc, mc/ic & NN/SN. Plus I have a lot of water in my chart, so when I get a ‘gut’ feeling about something, I’ve learned it’s best not to dismiss it. I’d also make a pretty keen detective, or at least I like to think so
Angie

As soon as I get the first and last name of anyone I’m considering dating, I do a background check. DUIs, how long his divorce has been going on, domestic violence history, and has he been honest about the timeline, etc.? Also, his year of birth is shown – has he shaved off a few years? Mars retro in Scorpio, like yours. I know more than they would ever guess by the time the iced tea hits the table. If they’re smart, they’ll not whitewash it, and that’s IF they made it this far. I have a kid to protect, as well as myself.

And I once read a Retrograde Pluto is supposedly more intense and psychological, which I have (so again the relentless mind, akh):

http://www.lynnkoiner.com/astrology-articles/pluto-retrograde

Anyone else with a Rx Pluto feel that way?

I have a Scorpio AC one degree off a fixed star called Khambalia, associated with deep research of any kind, police investigation, espionage, esoteric subjects, secret life and spiritual life. This trines Saturn in Pisces. Add the Neptune-Moon conjunction in Scorp, with Neptune sextile to Mars/Pluto/Uranus in Virgo, 10th hs, you get a pretty good research tool. Add Pluto aspecting almost everything, including my 8th hs NN and Vertex, you get more information than can comfortably be sorted and processed. Saturn on the angles helps keep the act together, as does the Saturn sq Moon, which prevents me from being distracted by such mundane things as love, sex and happiness. Yes, it’s a powerful chart for deep research of any kind, but not for a normal life under normal circumstances. Employment wise, the 10th would be good for a self employed guy, who doesn’t mind going bankrupt every couple of years or so. For love, the Saturn aspects and the Venus sq Mars/Pluto/Uranus do not bode well. To break free, I could use Pluto, Uranus or maybe Jupiter. Unfortunately, they’re all retro.

Thanks Satori! Great site..

Like Queenfluff, I have Scorpio ASC with Neptune 3 degrees away also in Scorpio. This placement allows me to feel that I just know things even if the facts don’t add up. With Pluto in my 10th sextile to Neptune/Asc in Scorpio I have used these detective skills in my career. Wouldn’t give this talent up for the life of me it has served me well.