Sex And Astrology And The 5th House vs The 8th

zodiac vintage girlYou read in astrology that sex is associated with both the 5th and the 8th house. This is confusing to the beginner but I can simplify it for you.

The 5th house rules sex for recreation. The 8th house rules sex for procreation. If you have an emphasis on the 5th or the 8th house in your chart, you probably can strongly relate to this.

For example, I have a packed 8th with nothing in the 5th and I don’t “play” sex. I say that without passing judgement. I know a lot of people who have sex for fun and recreation and see no problems with it. I just know it’s a different function and understanding this can be very empowering.

What is your prevailing attitude towards sex?  Can you see this in your chart?


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Sex And Astrology And The 5th House vs The 8th — 93 Comments

  1. I have a packed 8 h in scorpio,and with Venus inside. Sex is a door to the infinite and beyond, and it can change everything.

    Did I mentioned that Venus in conj Pluto and Saturn?.. pas facile!

  2. Hmmm . . . I have my Moon in the 8th and have never had any desire to procreate. I also have an aspected-to-the-gills Neptune in the 5th in Scorpio. So you can probably guess how I like my sex. ;)

  3. I have a stellium in my 5th, square Saturn in my 8th.

    I learn about sex all the time. It’s affect on my feelings, my health, my happiness, my comfort levels, my boundaries. Sex is a learning experience for me. Often a fun one but often a serious one, too.

  4. Hmmm, one planet in the 8th and one in the 5th, with the planet in the 5th being the ruler of the 8th AND sitting in Scorpio: even the smallest fling becomes an all or nothing/life or death experience. One night stands? Not for me. I guess i’m both playful and intense.

  5. Procreation? Not likely. I have never attracted a man who wants to procreate, either–never. I think that’s very telling actually.

    My partner and I are the same–we both love children but don’t want any. Lucky we are already surrounded:)

  6. Pluto in libra in 5th here … Jup in cap in 8th. Sex changes everything? Probably in every area since plutos opposition I’d my tsquare to mercury which rules my chart? And jup in cap in 8th I got the procreation down with 5 kids… That sound right Elsa?

    • good question, lunar.boy. Sex for the 8th house is deep, healing and transforming. 5th house sex is fun or play.

      My premise here is if you are of one type, you probably mix best with people who are also of your type.

  7. “if you are of one type, you probably mix best with people who are also of your type.”

    Yes! My bf is a double Scorpio with a Leo Stellium in his 10th. We have similar energy, in different places in our chart. We mix great!

  8. Yeah, I see people playing sex and it’s obvious they enjoy it. It’s their stage in a way.

    The 8th house is concerned with loyalty, even if it’s a one night stand, if you know what I mean.

  9. @ lunar.boy: i was thinking the same thing.

    my 5th is void.. aries/gemini. i don’t like to “play” sex. it happens when i need to discharge. i lovingly refer to it as “f-ing the aggressions out of me”

    my 8th only has vesta, at regulus (29leo), quintile sun/mercury in scorpioH10; and square uranus in scorpioH11. sexual activity is an expulsion of pure energy from within. in fact, most of the time, consummation doesn’t even occur.. it doesn’t have to. i can parallel procreation in that sense. not giving birth, but passing on directly to the ethereal. it is the plane we all strive for isn’t it?

    done a lot of reading on vesta.. whole other post. but i will say i am the one who brings the familiar masses together, periodically throughout the year to revel about a massive bonfire. vestal virgin? the other half of my 8th IS ruled by virgo…

  10. I have Jupiter in the 8th, in Cancer, and Venus in the 5th, in Taurus.. sounds good right?

    Whhhhhy don’t I get any then??????

    Sun Square Pluto & Uranus.. Ahhhhg.

  11. I have sun, mars, uranus, ceres and juno in the 8th in Libra with Pluto and Pallas just over the line by 2degrees in the 7th.

    I like sex. I don’t use sex to get what I want. Adn I don’t take it lightly. i won’t have sex with just anyone and I don’t do it just to be doing it. it does have meaning for me. But, give me a monogamous trusting relationship and I’ll show ya the sex life you didn’t know you could have :) just sayin

    • Welcome, reannamour. :) I don’t think there is a consensus on that. I have been at this 40 years and at this point I rely on my own observation rather than another person’s theory and have nothing firm I can tell you. Someone else might though.

  12. My 5th house has no planets. It is in Scorpio. My 8th house is aquarius and Chiron is in it.
    I think that sex is one of the great mysteries of human life. It represents many things to us individual and many things to us collectively. I have no issue with sex for pleasure. I think that there are one-night stands, which can be life affirming and joyous. There are many married couples who have sex in a deadening, soul destroying manner. I am in a long term monogamous relationship with the father of my children. A strong passionate sex life helps cement our relationship.

  13. I love this topic.

    Empty 5th and 8th, which always seemed odd to me. But now, knowing enough to follow rulerships etc tells my story perfectly. Um… It’s complicated. And beautiful.

  14. Both empty. Cap ruled 5th and Aries ruled 8th. Virgo Mars in 12th. Seems oddly quiet, and yet it isn’t at all and never has been. Married entire adult life (3 partners) and one longer relationship and just a few one night/short term “flings”. (But I really needed to get laid, and they were either super hot or famous, so kinda experimental.) Chart seems to not reflect it. Oh well.
    Hubs’ Mars is in Aries in my 8th house. I always chuckle when I see the chart and his poking my 8th house with that Mars arrow…lol

  15. Uranus in 5th sextile my Venus. Nothing in 8th. I like unusual, which means for me different races and more commonly, much younger. I also love to talk about love and sex and have Mercury in the 5th also.

  16. 5th house stellium here. Sex is hugely important to me, but I see it as a big part of romantic love rather than something welling up from the gut or my psychological depths. Rather, it’s a positive, affirmative chosen expression of love in a partnership.
    I’ve got no kids and have no plans for any, either.

  17. 8th house all the way. I need loyalty, sealed boundaries, depth. Even if it’s in a relationship that I doubt will last, that utter faith in the moment matters so much to me.

  18. My 8th is empty, with Cancer on the cusp. I don’t really get the 8th house approach to sex at all. It seems misplaced to put so much psychological/emotional weight on a simple physical act.

  19. Packed 8th house and only Juno in the fifth. That’s funny right, because Juno is supposed to be about commitment. Then again it is in gemini. Maybe explains my unusual marriage. Anyway, I was never very good at hooking up without getting involved, even when I tried. I pass no judgment on people that do it tho…jeez wish I could!

  20. You have to approach casual sex as an ego boost. All of my flings have happened when I felt lonely and there wasn’t anything promising on the horizon. Like I said before, it’s about getting a temporary jolt of romance in your life. But you have to clearly understand that love has nothing to do with it.

  21. Empty Aquarius 8th house and empty Scorpio 5th house. Pluto is in my 4th squaring my venus and mars in the 7th.

    I’m too intense to have a fling. It’s only “for fun” if there is a “from the beyond” bond. And I do want children.

  22. The 5th house is strongly emphasized in my chart, and an empty 8th house. I like sex, and I like the idea of “play” sex. But, in execution…it works better if there is some emotional commitment there.

    5th house Cap – Capricorn does not “play.” ;)

  23. I have moon in taurus in 5th and Jupiter/cap in 8th- thank god I only have 2 kids or I would go crazy! But I always think of sex in 2 ways fun and for love- I am aries w/ sag rising… so I like the fire and fun…I keep telling hubby why can’t you be Wolverine?? Its not so much to ask to be thrown up against a wall is it?? haaa

  24. also there is lots of sex talk on the blog today which is fitting since I woke up this am having very fun sex dreams- so I guess the husband better watch out later!! haa

  25. @ Ellen :) Welcome to the Wolverine club! He does it for a few of us around here (raises hand *guilty*). Well..he doesn’t do it literally..but you know what I mean

  26. hI Josi- as an Aries- I like any club that has “fun” except that one where you have to swing- who wants to get stuck w/ a guy that is gross!! not I-

    Actually I told my husband I would give him his fantasy if I get a Hall pass… this is before they made the movie and all my friends were “whats a hall pass?” haa he said no= he is a Cancer- he couldn’t handle it!! haa but I’m still working on it!!

    I mean life is to short for the same old boring thing! :)

  27. krustallos made me laugh! I have three planets (pluto, saturn, and jupiter) in the 5th and NONE in the 8th. I love men and like to have many options available. I always fear getting pregnant and have had no issues with just fun sex (the sag stellium)..however that pluto conj saturn, oh boy…I feel intensely but it tends to be hot and heavy season or Dry season…thanks to that pluto placement.

  28. oh did I mention it must be in the air because SAlt n Pepper were on Oprah yesterday – famous song “lets talk about sex”… love that song brings back fond college memories!

  29. Well let’s see. I have my Aries sun in H5, square Neptune in Sag in the H2 and sextile my moon in Gemini in H7. In H8, I’ve got nothing…

    What does this mean? I’ll guess that sex is a way for me to communicate my own energy. It’s recreational, it’s intense, it relies on a fantastic communicative relationship (square neptune in Libra in the 2nd and sextile moon in Gemini in the 7th). I find that the better I am communicating with my husband, the more intelletually “in sync” we are, the more inclined I am to have my way with him :) This is how we started up in the first place! I’ve always been overwhelmingly attracted to men whose conversation is delicious. Not even sexual — just….smart. Sex is physical, though. The intellecual comes first, and then it’s all body from there on out for me :D

  30. Good clarification Elsa! I have a 5th house with Sagittarius on the cusp – Sun/Merc/Juno/south node conjunction. My 8th house is ruled by Pisces.

    I think that sex can be fun! I do like to play and flirt with my one main guy. I am a one man women but sex is a very important part of my relationship. I’m not a friends with benefits type. Even though I’ve had a few flings, they don’t work for me.

    And this is the thing about astrology…I have “mitigating” factors in my chart that point to the seriousness about sex – Venus in Scorp, Venus sq Saturn, Saturn in the 7th.

  31. oh — my God! @ellen I am an Aries too (Scorpio rising) and when my husband was in Iraq, I was 23. We’d only been married 2 years and I was just wasting away. I went to see XMen with some college buddies to waste some time, but when Wolverine slams that guy into the wall with his claws (which is disgusting lol) I was just beside myself LOL
    I married a Leo, so I think he’d do that if I asked him to, but he’s also quite a gentleman. I think it might take a few less confident tries to convince him I wasn’t going to hate him afterwards LOL

  32. Hahaha Elsa! yes we all love that… esp those of us who aren’t getting enough of it ;)

    Empty 8th House, and I never wanted children.

    I have Sun & Venus conjunct in House 5, with Vesta exactly conjunct my Venus (sacred sex), Ceres in there too also conjunct Venus (nurturing through sex) and both Eros and Amor almost exactly conjunct, still in H5 but in Aquarius.

    Sex was very much recreational when I younger, and I had many lovers. But most of my H5 is in Capricorn (opp Saturn) and sex has always been very important to me as part of a relationship; I crave emotional depth, though not the domestic kind. Venus in Cap is usually pretty deadly serious ;)

  33. haa treehugginmama- haa I dated a Leo in college and still talk to him today- we were wild in the bedroom… he was the guy I tried it all with.. maybe your Leo thinks you want it that way cuz I know for us it was crazy!!

    Give it a try- you might be surprised! LOL!! I also dated an Aries after him and we were even crazier…. then I married the Cancer- oh well! haa – but its not all bad he can last longer than those 2 ever could! haaa

  34. Scorpio Saturn conjunct Libra Pluto on my 5th house cusp and both trine my 8th house Sun.. I have always taken sex seriously!

  35. definitely, I’ve had plenty of romance, sex, etc. and no children… sun and jupiter in the 5th, nothing in the 8th.

  36. Hey Elsa,

    Yes a weak Mars in Gemini, in the 7th puts the dampers on… I think, talk and fight about it a lot..

    Now, how do I get around that?

  37. this doesn’t jive for me at all…

    5th house aquarius with venus and mercury…I’d expect a rather “wheeeee!” approach to sex with this but that is not me at all. I need loads of honesty, trust and deep feelings to feel really good about having sex with someone. Definitely not about procreation but equally not about recreation at all.

    So what gives?

    I’m wondering: I have jupiter in opposition, neptune square, and I do remember reading that t-squares “point” to the area where we fix or solve the conflict, which is my taurus 8th house. eh? does that ‘splain it?

    no idea.

  38. I’ve got the same set-up as Maaike: Aqua moon in 8th, Uranus in the Scorpio 5th (8th-house ruler in the 5th house).
    Plus a Leo sun (5th vibe) and Mars-Venus conjunct Pluto (8th vibe). ;)

    I can do casual, I can do “recreation,” but to do so it needs, needs, to be an instinctual gut-hit. Lukewarm will NOT do! And that happens very few and far between.
    Even in my casual encounters, there’s a certain “loyalty” I expect: kiss and tell at your own risk! I’ll serve it back to you in a way you’ll never forget… *smirk*

    I much prefer something intense and soul-searing, though, something with depth and smolder I can sink my teeth into and savour for a while; this doesn’t satisfactorily lend itself to casual sex.

  39. Sun in the 5th and Mars in the 8th, Libra can’t decide!

    I would say I identify with the 5th house more. I have Sun (me!) loose conjunct Venus (likes + chart ruler) in Aquarius (detached) there along with Pallas. However, despite all my Aquarius and attempts to just not care, I do get very possessive of my lovers which I attribute to Mars conjunct Eros and Jupiter in 8th/Taurus. I feel like a Scorpio sometimes and I don’t particularly like it.

  40. Is there a possibility of self-denial of sexual expression when saturn in the 12th is in square to sun in the 8th (capricorn)??? Sexual inhibition or difficulty achieving orgasm with partner because of hidden guilt (saturn in the 12th)??

    Saturn also squares moon in cancer in the 2nd btw…

    Would really like to get some feedback on this

  41. Ive got a emty 5th house…
    Capricorn in the cuspid… ruler Saturn in the 12th Leo which doubles my attitude toward that.

    My 8th Cuspid is Aries, with Taurus Chiron on it… Sex is also healing for me.

    i only play with the one im in love with… im quite serious about it, in doing it… but i love anything sex related, im heavily sexual (Taurus Mars).

    My Scorpio Juno also wants a deeeeep connection.

  42. I have an empty Aquarian 8th house, with Uranus (conj BML) in Sag in the 5th. Scorpio 5th cusps,with Ceres.

    Sex its very important for me. I am nurtured by sex, fun, creative activities. Sex, either in a relationship or a fling,has to be intese and gut felt, as SaDiablo said.
    I also tend to be quite playful, kinky and exploring, trying new things turns me on. I am a devotional lover and expect the same, something too intense does not allow for another person. Unless is a threesome, haha!

    Anyway,there is so much taboo about sex and certain sexual experiences, that made me put down my desire to experiment. Its an inner struggle.
    But with that mix of signs, houses and planets/asteroids that finally comes out.

  43. 5th ruled by Gemini, 8th by Virgo – both ruled by Mercury. Mercury Pisces 2nd. Both empty.

    Sex is a spiritual exchange. You are exchanging energy. I only wish to do it with someone I love. There has to be a spiritual connection, or I see no reason to allow them to have it from me.

    My ex used me physically, so I detached emotionally during it. I could never have a one-night stand.

    I don’t know if I’ll ever have it again. It’ll be interesting to see who the guy is, and why I agree to have sex with him (fall in love with him). Once I do, he’ll never go without it, I assure you. I hope he takes his vitamins.

  44. My 8th house is empty – cusp Gemini but mostly in Cancer (I have Lilith in my 8th though but I don’t know much about that). My 5th house is actually empty too – cusp of Aries (only a sliver of it in Taurus.

    Both of these probably explain why I don’t have much interest in sex and I never wanted to get married or have children. Funny I have alot of Scorpio in my chart (Rising and Sun exact conjunct Pluto) but nope, don’t really care about sex at all. So, I guess yeah my chart is correct! :)

  45. Our sex life has always been just about as much fun as it could be, and never boring. It started out as just fun, from both perspectives, but we were seriously about fun, if that makes any sense. This, I believe is the fifth house perspective. Also, we were friends first, which helps.
    As for the eighth house, I believe HE was unconciously all about procreating, in an instinctive way that he’s just beginning to understand.

  46. Venus in 8th square Pluto in 5th. Sex is totally intense and serious for me, and only with someone I totally trust. After I know I’m safe with them and that there’s a long term investment, then I can start being playful.

  47. Couldn’t be intimate with someone I don’t know, inside and out. Packed 8th. Little something in fifth says “quality folks” only.

    I don’t play around with intimacy/sex either.

    Have only had/still only have one partner. Says it all.

  48. Packed 8th! Sex has always been more serious pursuit! I have to know the person well. I have done the friends with benefits, but had absolutely no fun! :-0
    Also, a few unpleasant experiences, which really took the fun out of sex!

  49. 8th house moon in gemini / empty 5th house in pisces… I have always wanted children, and the best sex for me is when it’s emotional, when I have strong feelings for the person. It doesn’t always need to be intense or passionate… I can very much enjoy ‘fun, light’ sex too… but there needs to be an emotional connection at the root of it all.

  50. I have an 8th House Stellium in Gemini with an empty 5th and the woman I am totally in love with has a 5th House Stellium in Leo with an empty 8th.

    There’s so much magnetism but haven’t gone all the way yet. So far it seems like my 8th House is more influential in the relationship. She also has her Pluto in the 7th. And we have opposite Ascendants (me Libra, hers Aries) so almost all the houses are on opposite signs.

  51. My 8th house is ruled by Libra, with my sun in Libra and a stellium of Venus, Mercury, and Jupiter, in Scorpio and Jupiter and Venus conjunct Pluto in Scorpio in the 9th house. My fifth house is ruled by Cancer, and had Vesta in it. To me, sex is something not to be taken lightly. It changes everything. When I have sex with someone, it’s usually only because I feel something intense or passionate towards that person. Nothing casual..

  52. Natally I have the ruler of my 5th (saturn) conjunct mercury in my twelve (I’m a Leo/Virgo). The ruler of my eight is conjunct the nn as well as venus. So I’m very passionate, ofter jump into sex too fast. Its hard to separate love from sex. My fifth house make my kids… ummm a chore. Dont get me wrong, I love them, but I take raising them very very very seriously. Now, currently pluto is rx but when it goes direct, it will be at 8 degrees Capricorn, and I’m 8 degrees Virgo, so I’m thinking something big is going to happen. When Pluto started its rx motion it really messed up my relationship, everything got cold and when it finally opposed my natal moon in cancer at 12 degrees, we broke up. So I wonder what pluto transit in my fifth is going to do??? Get passionate about sex?, get passionate about raising these kids?, another kid? Death of a child? Transforming through my creativity? A new passionate lover? (Got neptune opposing my asc) or a lover that is going to lie to me? Heeeeeellllpppp plzzz

  53. Hello,

    I have a libra uranus in 5th and cancet saturn in 8th.

    I have sexual instability on one hand but longing for relationship – moon in 7th house

  54. I dont know where I fit in this. I have moon in 8th, but Scorpio rules my 5th and I have 1.6 million planets an asteroids in Scorpio in the 5th. I am actually a nun.

  55. I totally know what you mean about how sex has a different function than play sex. I have pallas in Aries in the 5th house, jupiter, chiron, ceres, and verte in the 8th. I have venus in scorp in the first house so regeneration is a constant theme in my life, especially when it comes to sex. I now view it as sexual evolution. I use to have tons of sport sex and then sex got more intimate and even disgusting. Sex became a means of power and we are all responsible for how we use sexual energy. After tons of experience, and I know there are people who have WAY more experience than me, sex became Sacred out of the pain that I had put my body through in the past. Sacred sex for me, is a way of redemption, of allowing my body to channel spirit in divine union. Only those who are brave at heart and calm in mind can enter, because consciousness is expanded beyond my body. This means that I can only become sexual with people who hold the same vibration as me. Being intimate with the self builds up this vibration and you will experience heightened sensuality. I feel like a vessel, carrying with me the energy of my environment, all the pain and the confusion that Sacred sex burns through. As my body is able to heal with sacred fire, my surrounding environment becomes lighter, and more cheerful, before it gets dense again, so the process keeps repeating itself until people know. When I enter the space of Sacred sex, I am not preplanning a “marriage with house and kids” with a chosen partner at the time. I am not “looking” for someone to fill a gap. I am very in my body and since we are all emotional sponges, I need sex to be Sacred because the emotions that un-sacred sex that my body absorbs needs to be cleared and replenished.

  56. My boyfriend has a super Aquarius 8th house – Mercury, Sun, Venus, and Jupiter! He’s also got a 5th house Scorpio Mars. His Saturn conjuncts my 5th house moon in Sadge (our ascendents are same sign, Cancer, just 10 degrees apart.) He’s never been married, and already has a child. I’m not a virgin, but I told him I’m not having sex with him until marriage, because I believe sex is for making babies. He accepts that. He would also like to marry me tomorrow lol. I’m not Plutonian at all, but very much a Taurus, and I’ve dated my share of Scorpios, and tried to have relationships with 3 different guys with 8th house moons (fail fail fail). This one is so different… he’s got a 4th house Libra moon. I love his Aquarian energy. I’ve got Gemini :) And I think we have a great Saturn-Jupiter thing going on.

    The relationship report I got from you is great, Elsa. I just can’t decide if I should share the info with him or not. I know it won’t change his mind about what we he’s going to do in our relationship, but I just wonder if he’d find it remotely interesting, amusing, or even hilarious (like the part that says I’m more stubborn than him, ha.) I haven’t mentioned it at all yet.

  57. I have sun and venus in my 5th house nothing in my 8th house my wife has nothing in 5th or 8th whether we shall have any children ? if yes when if no should be adopt one?

  58. Interesting view, I can totally agree with you! And I have 6 planets in the 5th, since they are much in the same sign and house I have developed a very special relationship towards sex. And I can say like this, I have only had one partner, I’m happily married. But I have more lust and need than my husband, but he manages good I think. My focus isn’t on having sex for the “play” it is more deeply grounded in me, but that is because of the planets in 5th and the sign ruler is standing in one deep pit of Aquarius in 7th so… But I can do it for fun too..

  59. I have no planets in 8th or 5th but I do have part of fortune in 5th house which doesn’t do anything I think. My sex/romantic life has been dry to put it nicely.

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