Inequality In The Real World: “Sometimes They Say That You Eat The Bear, But Sometimes The Bear Eats You!”
Astrology in real life
If you talk to a lot of people you see themes emerge and one of the things people are finding out with Saturn in Libra is that in reality, things are not fair. I learned this the last time Saturn was in Libra and I remember being stunned.
For example, I was sued (unfairly) when I was 19 years old. I couldn’t afford an attorney and I had no knowledge of anything “court” or “legal”. I had to do something though. The amount of money I was being sued for was about 25 times more than I had to my name.
I consulted everyone I had access to which was basically a bunch of old men and they told me what they could but I was scared to death. TO DEATH.
I had always paid my bills so if I lost the case, what would that mean? I was afraid I would wind up homeless again and in my confused panic the day before the hearing, I went to see the opposing counsel.
I had no idea this was stupid. I just showed up at the office of what I now know was a high dollar corporate attorney to try to work something out. I will never forget what he said.
First he listened to me intently which is shocking in hindsight and then he said, “Well, Miss Panizzon, there is nothing I can do. Its too late to stop this but you are 100% right so you have 50% chance of winning so you may as well go to court tomorrow.”
“What? You think I am completely right but have a 50% chance of losing?”
“Yep, that’s how it works. Now if you’ll excuse me, I have to prepare to fight you in court tomorrow and I intend to win.”
I walked out of his office more disillusioned than I had ever been in my life. What do you mean there is no justice?
Just because you are right doesn’t mean a thing, at least not in near term or the small picture.
Here is the song: Jim Croce’s Hard Time Losin’ Man
“And you think you’ve seen trouble
Well you’re lookin’ at the man ah ha
Oh, the world’s own original hard luck story
And a hard time losin’ man
Oh, sometimes skies are cloudy
And sometimes skies are blue
And sometimes they say that you eat the bear
But sometimes the bear eats you…”
Anyone got a message like this lately?
35 Responses to “Inequality In The Real World: “Sometimes They Say That You Eat The Bear, But Sometimes The Bear Eats You!””
someone came over in the middle of the night and cleaned my car off. looks much less bad now. could get a fender and a light from the junkyard and it will be fine. with all the paint off, it’s just a bit scratched. thanks to saturn’s polymer body panels that don’t dent….
i’, wondering if the people who hit my car couldn’t get insurance because they’re not here legally. there’s a bit of that in my neighborhood.
if insurance doesn’t cover hit and runs, i’ll just fix it myself. i guess it’s not worth getting people worked up over…..
still seems absurd that insurance doesn’t want to cover a hit and run driver though. maybe i want a different policy. again.
Oh yea. Big time. As Saturn was entering Libra (or just before), it was opposite my Sun, which was conjuncted by transiting Uranus. This is exactly when everything hit the fan at my last job. No justice in what happened for me, but I’ve learned that it’s more about how I pick myself up afterwards than about anything that my old boss did. I will never be a victim and that’s in my own realm of control instead of looking to someone else to hand out ‘justice’.
Yep..i’m in it now.
Gotta lay low….maybe saturn in libra is also weighing the value of legal action against other strategies? If there’s more to the story, I’m all ears! {- -}
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Elsa, did you win? Was this also about the time you took on the harassment lawsuit? You are amazing, you know.
I don’t mean to ignore this question – did I win – but it’s a good story and deserves better treatment then a yes/no answer, plus the answer is yes and no.
On the sexual harassment, this was a different thing. The sexual harassment I sued when I was 17, the case settled when I was 19, almost 20.
This was a lawsuit filed against me in between. I really didn’t know you could sue a teenager at the time. I had no idea it could happen, I was dumber than shit but I did go to court and defend myself against THREE attorneys. It was fuckin’ hysterical but only in hindsight. At the time it was like being hit by a bus.
I mean, there was no Judge Judy back then, I had no idea what to expect.
There was also no homelessness – see how I am always first / on the cutting edge?
::snorts::
Hi Elsa – You’re right, life isn’t always fair, nor is the legal system always “just”. Thank God I’ve never had to go to court, but I have had to get involved in some legal disputes, mostly having to do with my elderly mom and the care she received while she was at a licensed facility. Legally, the claims I’d made were “substantiated”, but it didn’t make me feel much better, and the whole experience left me pretty disillusioned. I realized that a lot of the people who are paid to care (even at the government levels) just don’t care enough. And sadly, I think that’s true of most organizations. Not all, but most. I have a whole stellium of planets in Libra and Scorpio in my 2nd house, so fairness, justice, and values applied in a practical way are very important to me. And I hate hypocrisy.
The legal system (and life in general I find) has a different idea on fairness. When I was 13-14 years old, my father gained custody of me (divorce) because my mother couldn’t care for me properly (mental illness and alcoholism). My dad still had to pay a spousal support to her until her death 6 years later. Even when he was paying child support, she was using the money mostly to her needs.
It taught me to be careful with marriage (the only planet in Libra that I have is Pluto but it conjunct my Scorpio Saturn). Liability is something that is always important I believe in relationship (whether it be business or personal). My father knew about her instable state of mind but he wanted to help her and maybe… save her (his venus is in pisces!… just like me!) I believe he loved her but it was unfair for him to put himself in this situation and he learned his lesson… the hard way. I remember going to court to talk to the judge about my life with her and explain why I should be under the custody of my father instead of my mother. I felt like I was betraying her but I sooo wanted to be with my dad because I understood how bad my situation was when I was living with her. Justice is not a emotional matter.
my father (libra) used to tell me this and i thought he was a hardassed, cynical bastard for it.
of course, now i know he’s right. his sun is conjunct my n.node in my 10th house.:)
I think my link is going to have to wait, but it’s Sam Elliot from The Big Lebowski – sometimes you eat the b’ar, sometimes the b’ar eats you.
And yeah, I’m having one of these times right now. I’ve decided it is a ripe opportunity and I am willing to work my mountain-climbing-goat legs off to pluck the fruit growing off the tree at the peak.
what a story, Elsa!! Three lawsuits, if I’m counting correctly, before you legally came of age? Would there also have been a 9th house outer planet like Pluto?
But, yeah, I guess Saturn transiting Libra could teach us the tough lesson that life isn’t fair. Donna Cunningham
Donna, I get sued so much, someone delivered me concert tickets via Fed EX an I thought it was a lawsuit. I am serious!!
I opened the envelope and saw tickets to Garland Jeffreys and burst into tears.
har har
I told my friend and he informed me you have to be served and not by Fed Ex, as if I didn;t know that. But basically only 2 things get delivered to my house unexpected. Flowers and Lawsuits (mars mercury 9th)
But now I help people get through stuff like this. I specialize so..
I have a legal dispute right now. No, I dont think the world is fair, mainly when pluto 2th house squeare my venus-libra 11th. I am afraid, however I know I am a hard bone to chew. With natal venus conjunct saturn, still harder.
Why should the world be fair? How would any of us prove themselves if it was? That lawsuit provided a unique experience and after you go through something like that, you don’t get scared easily.
You get what you get, not what you deserve.
This may not be appropriate. I live in Austin, and a man just flew his plane into an IRS office down the road. He didn’t believe the tax system was fair to him. It doesn’t end then, does it? How fair was it to the people he lashed out at, and their families?
Where did we come from that we think as individuals we are owed complete fairness? I’m looking at myself, too. No one is. Wow, if this was universal, there would be no wars, no retribution.
So sad…
Ah, Michele, not everyone behaves this way, though. I feel similarly about school shootings and sad events like that. I don’t think it’s about fairness at these points– I really think people just lose it real bad… and I feel compassion for everyone involved.
As far as wars are concerned, some have been initiated for financial gain, but others have historically been necessary for us to acquire certain freedoms. If we just sat back and never fought for anything, I wonder where we’d be, right now.
Some battles are worth it, others are not or have never really been real battles in the first place.
This is such an interesting topic. I was just noticing how the sense of ‘unfairness’ can be taken to an extreme… especially when it happens next door.
The other side of this is boundaries. Where do yours start and mine end. And the point Elsa has brought up about fairness is important. My boundaries are going to be a lot tighter if I think everyone HAS to be fair to me at every moment. Perhaps the best way to be is to not take offense. If there is harm involved, you take care of yourself. There are times, without a doubt, when self-defense is appropriate.
You know, it’s times like these that I’m so grateful for people like Judge Judy. I hope that more people with a clue like her rise and rise and rise and see battles for what they really are. No one can pay this woman off to make her decide anything contrary to what she knows AND senses (because her intuition is top-notch) is right for all parties involved. I love the way she stands up for the ridiculed and those who are taken advantage of, the way she tears d-bags all-new asses, and the way she offers lessons to everyone for their growth from these cases. And if you think for a second that some of these plaintiffs and defendants don’t exist, think again.
Maybe we should support people like her so that we do obtain the kind of justice we deserve… Just a thought.
Well….when the bear eats me, it usually ends up with a real bad case of belly-ache and diarrhoea!
Well, my last relationship cost me a career, my family, hundreds of thousands of dollars, ten years and the likelihood that I will either live in a bus or be working until I am 80 years old for very little money. I’m estranged from most of society and too old to start over at making a life for myself that matters even to me.
The other party is about to retire with a 100K/year pension and will be in Hawaii next month with a woman ten years younger than I am.
It’s because I chose to believe a liar. There’s no reset button. It’s what I get, and no justice, except the justice that says this is what happens when you believe a liar.
(((((eva)))))
Please don’t think you’re too old to start over. I just did in this last year…at 65. Start forgiving yourself first for believing a liar. You’re not the first one … and you won’t be the last. Take care of yourself and love yourself no matter what…
I can’t really come to a conclusion here, because I don’t know the story (i.e., why the lawsuit?).
I know that life isn’t always fair, but it’s not always unfair. I think some people get into messes on their own, and then like to blame others, and then they consider their lives and worlds unfair.
My family has been involved in suits. We’ve always won. You win or you lose them.
Don’t have time to read all the comments this sec, but I’ll come back and do that. I just wanted to say, I’m living it right now. It’s not fair.
The thing that makes me the most enraged in life is injustice, of any kind, really, but especially legal injustice. But, it’s actually very exciting to me. Since I was a small child people have been telling me that I should be a lawyer, and I know that I should be. But, I’ve got Saturn in my 9th, and finishing my education…well, saying it’s been “slow” is a serious understatement.
I’ve never gone to court for more than a traffic violation, but I often read people’s court dockets online for no particular reason.
My ex-boyfriend’s mother was sued by her ex-husband several months ago about a matter pertaining to their divorce settlement. She couldn’t afford an attorney and waited until the DAY her papers were due to call me and ask for some help.
I read over the suit papers and, finally, just had to tell her to be quiet and let me handle it. I spent a few hours writing the document to contest his suit against her. She got to the court just before they closed and got the papers in. She won. His case was thrown out, and he had to pay his lawyer over $6000. THAT was a good feeling.
I’m actually looking forward to the next time I get sued. (I’ve been sued before, but only by creditors).
I have Libra on my 9th. In Libra, in the 9th, is Saturn conjunct Jupiter (1 degree apart), which Trines my Aqua Moon in the 1st/2nd. I also have Pluto in there (which squares Mars in my 7th in Cancer, and exactly sextiles my Sun/Mercury conjunction in Leo in the 8th). Pluto rules my MC and is the most elevated planet in my chart.
…so that’s my 2 cents…
Eva, I’m very very sorry.
I know something of what you mean, although not nearly to that extreme.
Even if life isn’t fair, I still like to hope that what goes around comes around, and will get em in the next life if not this one.
Thanks Norah and Shaina. 
What can you do? Sometimes the bear eats you. I’m getting more philosophical about this as the months go by. Sometimes I’ll get drug down by a rage attack, but you wouldn’t believe the difference between me a year ago and me now.
I remember the way you were posting a year ago eva, and you’ve come a long long way. By this time next year I’m convinced you will have realised that early 40s is pretty young these days and you have plenty of time to rebuild your life! It takes time to come to terms with so much waste and pain. Rome wasn’t built in a day, and all that…
I too have been sued, and it was a travesty of justice since had it finished in court I would have lost on a technicality. It’s a complex story about a book – MY book, which never did get published as a result of the lawsuit which went on for four years. The people suing me, who were trying to steal the book off me, backed down a week before we were due in the High Court and I’d have had to defend myself – I didn’t have a farthing at the time and had had to dispense with my lawyer. At one point the opposing solicitor did advise me – we met in Judge’s Chambers at a pre-court hearing. He obviously felt very sorry for me!
The whole thing was absolutely terrifying and blighted years of my life. It also drained my will to further my career, and left me with no respect whatever for ‘justice’
I went to court today. According to two laws and Jesus, I was right. According to one law and political expediency, I could be technically considered a little so-so. Political expediency and technicality won over humanity, justice, two laws and Jesus Christ. I lost 300€ and some hardware, but the prosecutor lost his honor. Actually, I shone in court. I hit them with the absolute truth. The prosecutor couldn’t even look me in the eye and had to mutter his closing statement in a trembling and faltering voice. The judge was gagging on her words, reading the verdict. I was absolutely right and they knew it. I already know why this had to happen. Saturn was testing them and their sense of justice, more than me. Now they’re marked for some education. I wouldn’t be surprised if the corrupt prosecutor decided to punish himself with a car accident on the way home. The judge I think will get away with some minor lessons, like people judging her harshly for no apparent reason. Those people will probably be older or Capricorns.
I left the courthouse with my head up high. The persecutor was looking at his shoes and the judge looked like she was going to cry. I feel kind of sorry for the judge. Maybe she’s got Pisces. I might even like her off duty.
Elsa,
Between this article and your video, you have clarified so much for me about what happened late last Oct to February. The quick statement about Jupiter and Neptune creating an inflated sense of well-being to what Saturn and Libra will deal out in the short-term. Last fall I was taken to court on very bogus charges and was given NO opportunity to say anything during the entire process as the plaintiff and Undersheriff both said I confessed to committing the offense!! So trumped up and unfair, but that’s how it went down. I do know there is a natural law of the universe that deals with things more effectively, but I may never see the actual results. Still, thanks for the insight!! And for always sharing those issues that affect us all with such candor. Love your style:)
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