Astrology, Love and Control Freaks: What Google Searches Reveal

September 10th, 2011 @ 5:12 am by Elsa

Ask the collective…

zodiac fabricMelody Zindell comments on the Piece Of Work Boyfriend Is Back blog:

“A favorite book of mine, one that I am quite passionate about relative to helping people lift the veils of subtle and insidious control is "Controlling People: How to Recognize, Understand, and Deal With People Who Try to Control You " by Patricia Evans. Some of us are more susceptible than others, but it is the m.o. of the world in general and so we don’t even realize what’s happening. The book can be a real eye opener.”

She sold me the book and I also wanted to comment on how common this is. Do you know that roughly 75% of google seaches that bring people to this blog read like this:

“How do I get an Aries to do blah, blah, blah?”
“How can I make my Gemini girlfriend stop doing blah, blah?”

People are plainly and blatantly wishing to control other people with astrology (or any other means) and guess what I never see?

“How can Virgo stop chasing men who are no good for them?”

Most people want love. How is anyone you “get to do something” ever going to love you?

Are love and control mutually elusive?



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17 Responses to “Astrology, Love and Control Freaks: What Google Searches Reveal”

1.
Viv
Viv

You would think so. But I notice controlling women are the ones that are able to keep their men with them, even though they may not be happy.
i’m not saying all women with long term relationships are controling of course. But I know alot of men that aren’t very happy in their relationships but still won’t cut loose, and I notice the women are the plutonic kind.
maybe i’m just being bitter.

 
2.
C.
C.

I want to cry. I didn’t have a clue that those were the types of questions people ask. That makes me so so sad. Is this one of those things where the blinders go down?

Similar to my recent realization of how many close women friends I have that use sex or sexuality to “get stuff” from the men in their lives? I was sickened to realize it through a series of conversations the last few weeks. Part of me is angry because I never get stuff from guys, in fact, I have trouble asking for help from most anyone, male or female. But here… darn I do wish the foggy clouds would come back.

I think that love and control are mutually exclusive. Otherwise how does someone get to express who they really are as a person if they’re always conforming to your expectations? If they’re so busy conforming then you aren’t really loving who they are. I will say that within reason you have a right to ask for things in a relationship. They have the right to give those things to you or not. And both of you have the right to stay or to go.

 
3.
Elena
Elena

Elsa cmon girl! I sent you exactly the kind of question you never see!!!
I asked you how I can stop the cycle of being with bad Gemini and find a good one? And I am a Virgo!;-)))
Oh and I just realized that 80% of my friends are Gemini too…

 
4.
Elena
Elena

Oh and I have Pluto in my fifth house. And I sure can smell power play a mile away. I do it sometimes too, automaticaly…
A reeealy good book I read about control is “The other side of Power” and two other accompanying books by Claude Steiner, one of the founders of transactional analysis. And you can get if for free here!: http://www.emotional-literacy.com/osp.htm
cheers,
Elena

 
5.
Elsa
Elsa

Elena, I am talking about Google searches. People write me all the time trying to improve themselves. This is an advice blog!

But the people out there in general, searching google are after one thing and one thing only. ‘How do I get this other person to do what I want them to do?”

And I am not a girl… I am a woman! :-)

 
6.
Elena
Elena

my bad…woman. ;-)

 
7.
Piya
Piya

I’m a firm believer in personal responsibility. No one can make you do something you don’t want to do.

That’s why I disagree with Viv up there. As an outsider, the woman may seem controlling (and heck, maybe she is), but he’s still there. And you know what? That means he wants to stay there. At least for now.

I do not believe in controlling someone in a relationship and I also have to say that if you find yourself being controlled, half the time it’s your own damn fault.

 
8.
Viv
Viv

controlling people can manipulate/ change what you want to do :)

that’s why they are not dictators, they are more refined then that, more powerfull, hidden, alluring sometimes.

I agree that the controlled person has as much fault.

 
9.
CD
CD

I will definitely have to read that book! I have, in the past, been very controlling. I learned it from my family and didn’t realize for a long time that there was any other way to deal with tension.

I do think that real, soulful love is impossible when either party (or both) are controlling. Because you are basically reducing the other person to an object. You are controlling in an effort to resolve the tension you feel (in whatever way that comes out: basic control, or smothering, or manipulating, whatever).

But, ironically, I also think that boundaries can improve love and relationships dramatically. So, control over yourself is good, but control over another person is not so good, I guess.

Take my relationship, for example. My sig other has ADD, so if I have no boundaries, I lose myself in his “fast” ness, when I am not always a fast person! So, I have to remind myself of the difference of saying “I don’t have ADD, so I’m going to do it THIS way” (boundaries) and “You need to do it this way” (control).

On another note, sometimes the person who, on the outside, looks like they’re being “controlled” is actually a mastermind of controllingness. You can’t always tell just by outside appearance.

 
10.
Dani
Dani

I don’t think that they are. I told my mom today about Anna Karenina’s jealousy and she said something like “people are possessive.” A wish not to be cheated is a form of wanting to control your mate. Plus, in living with your lover, your idea of who they are/you want them to be can clash with who they really are. Therefore, you might want to get your Gemini girlfriend to do something or other. Power plays definitely happen in love relationships. It’s a part of the challenge of living together.

 
11.
Demelza
Demelza

I agree with the poster above who advised not to judge a relationship from it’s outward appearance. There’s a good chance the controlee needs the structure and stability that the controller provides them! It’s a symbiotic relationship.

 
12.
julianwinter
julianwinter

Mutually exclusive? … yes, by definition love controls no thing.

 
13.
arshambow
arshambow

Control is not love. I am not at control person at all and somehow I seem to attract ‘control’ people maybe they think I’m a challenge somehow or they think I’m a pushover with my accommodating Libra rising. I am A LOT better at spotting control now,sometimes it can be so subtle it’s difficult to tell. I read something one time that said if someone is constantly making you angry, they are crossing your boundaries and I am finally after many years learning to clearly define my boundaries.

 
14.
beth
beth

As far as symbiotic relationships go, people often do get what they really want- however, there are cases of control and actual abuse where the abused party stays out of old habit, anxiety about the outside world, having nowhere else to go, or simply being so exhausted and beaten down by the demands of the relationship they don’t think they can hack it on their own.

They do have personal responsibility for their actions. They have made a choice to stay, yes, but that doesn’t mean they have a perfectly balanced symbiotic relationship where they’re getting what they really want. It doesn’t mean they really like the abuse. They may just be too foggy to fight their way out.

 
15.
beth
beth

Also, I don’t think control and love are mutually exclusive. Pure love is not about control, but relationships deal with flawed humans and control is a fact of life.

 
16.
Isernia
Isernia

I don’t want to try to control anyone any more. I’m too tired. I want a relationship where we both like each other, quirks and all. I’m tired of manipulation – it’s creepy.

My ex tried to control me every way possible – all it got him was a divorce. I think the more you try to control a situation, the more likely you cause exactly what you don’t want to happen.

That had nothing to do with love – only fear.

 
17.
dorchid
dorchid

I agree control and love are mutually exclusive. Love is forgiveness, acceptance, gratitude, serenity, joy. I don’t think you can experience these things if you are simultaneously exerting control, or being fearful of losing control.

I also think this is THE hardest aspect of being human – the need to be loved as well as the need for control. I approach it by trying to be SELF-controlled. And yet, this has its own pitfalls for me too (though less than the alternative).

 


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