scorpioDebby writes:

“My mother has a stellium in Scorpio – Sun, Mercury, Venus and Jupiter, and Pluto aspects at least her Sun and Venus. Manipulative she may be, but I can’t remember her betraying me or breaking my confidence even once. I’m kinda surprised about the Scorpio/8th house reference on this thread in connection with betrayal as she has a Scorpio stellium and I have an 8th house stellium and we exchange some Pluto aspects in synastry and mutual loyalty and confidence were so natural and obvious that I can’t even remember talking about it, we just took it for granted and it was never a problem. We also didn’t talk about how it was wrong to tell other people’s secrets – it was something I just knew. She never told other people’s secrets as far as I know, she also hates gossip.”

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38 Responses to “Betrayal, Gossip, Exposing A Person’s Secrets, Talking Behind Their Backs – POLL”

1.
june
june

normally i think all press is good press, but if it’s someone i trust… seeya!

mars in 12th conj ascendant.

 
2.
Debby
Debby

Hehe, me again..

I picked the “All of the above” option. Well, it’s actually not ALL of the above – I don’t think all press is good press and I don’t tend to retaliate either, but the rest are all possible options for me. I cracked at the option to “Use them to spread information” because I’m the only person I personally know that might do just that, I think most people won’t consider it, it takes a “criminal mind” :D

Mars-Mercury conjunction in Cancer in the 8th house, sextile Pluto in th 9th house. Criminal mind ;)

 
3.
Stephanie
Stephanie

If it’s someone I trust and feel is a confident, I confront them about it. Why give up on an important relationship without an explanation? Taurus Mars in 6th conjunct DSC.

 
4.
midara
midara

If it’s someone I basically trust, I just let it go and figure that at least they’re thinking about me. I have a double Gemini friend who I love dearly and understand that whatever I tell her will be repeated to everyone she knows. It’s part of her, and I just accept it.

Mars in Leo in the 5th conj Sun, Venus, and Merc, trine Uranus and Jupiter.

 
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Neith
Neith

Mars in Scorpio in the 12th. Don’t like gossip and have kept many, many secrets over the years. Others have confided in me all my life, knowing if they requested, it would go no further . . . In general, I regard gossip as a huge waste of time and energy.

 
6.
wyrdling
wyrdling

it doesn’t really happen to me. people don’t seem to talk about me. or if they do, i don’t ever hear about it.

no, the 8th house thing… i learned from my mother… what kind of 8th house person i didn’t want to be. my best friend has an even more concentrated scorpio stellium and our friendship’s a great example of mutual trust and respect and ability to hold each other’s confidences, etc. it really all depends on choice, i think. how you choose to use your energy. my mother acts out of fear, most of the time. my best friend does not. it makes a big difference.

 
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wyrdling
wyrdling

on second thought, i trust so few people i generally don’t have to worry about them spreading my secrets. i certainly didn’t give my mother, for example, anything important from very early on. like elementary school.

if i do feel someone i have trusted has betrayed my trust i’ll generally confront them and/or distance completely, depending on the situation. sometimes one after the other. my mars is in pisces in the 7th.

i also try not to have secrets that i’d care if anyone found out about. or, more to the point, care if people knew how odd i am. i figure if they want to know, they can ask me, and if they don’t like it, that’s not my problem, i’m not making them spend time with me.

 
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Charlotte
Charlotte

Oh gosh, I picked all of the above because it really depends on the situation. My friend told me she was discussing our relationship with someone else (in not entirely positive terms) and I told her it made me feel uncomfortable. It’s sort of flattering to have people think you’re interesting enough to talk about, no?

Mars in 4th house Sadge. Yeesh.

 
9.
andro
andro

noone that I trust would discuss me behind my back in a way that is harmful to me-if they did, it would be an accident or misunderstanding, or misjudgement.

but I only trust about 5 people. Everyone else is case pending indefinitely. If I find out someone in general is saying things behind my back that I don’t like, I generally just stop telling them anything interesting.

mars in Sadge.

 
10.
mudlikesubstance
mudlikesubstance

mars in Cancer. I rarely hear people talk about me. The few times that it’s gone wrong I’ve distanced myself – severely at first then gradually allow them to regain some of my trust given other indicators of friendship.

 
11.
Janelle
Janelle

I picked cut them off completely, but it´s usually a gradual process that starts with hurt, rage, distance and then the ultimate CHOP (all the while I´m planning their demise). Mars in Scorpio conjunct Pluto in the 10th.

I keep my circle of friends rather tight anyway (Saturn in the 11th) But I´ve had my share of betrayal in the past.

 
12.
Foxxy
Foxxy

I wanna know what they’re saying. I have a first house Capricorn Mars Square Pluto.

If its not very nice the reaction varies by the person. Regardless of the person, if I don’t like the rumor I seek it out and quash it ‘C’mon, XYZ! For petes sake!’ If I like it, I let it live and give off no reaction whatsoever.

If its someone I want to keep around and I don’t like the rumor I confront them and hash it out, and if it is someone I don’t like then I retaliate.

For instance there was this assistant manager once, sexually assaulted my friend at a different retail location and then got transfered to my store (transfered because there were enough sexual harassment complaints, in fact one girl was suing because she’d gotten fired and alleged it was for this reason). I had all the local gossip, but let him come in clean when people asked me what I knew I said that what I knew wasn’t so nice, and was probably just gossip.

But! When he started gunning for me and talking down to me, and talking to the other management about me in a way that was not so flattering. I let everyone know he’d been in the movies! Yep! Carlos our very own Superstar! Back Up Dancer in GLITTER! And I’d get that sucker playing a little bit before his shift on a regular basis. “Hey! Guys! Won’t this be funny!”. And I went to management and expressed my discomfort with working with someone who had sexually harassed my friend. That I thought that maybe some of the negative stuff Carlos was saying about me maybe sprang from the fact I knew why he’d been bounced from his other store. And when a fellow staff member asked why I wasn’t working with Carlos any more I swore them to secrecy and told them, then let the rumor mill do its thing. Ka-Boom.

 
13.
Skye
Skye

I dont trust to many people but I chose other because it would depend on the situation and what they had supposely been saying about me. I would possible distance myself from them a little bit and let what happened slide as a one off unless it become a repeated scenrio then I would think again about the realationship and distance myself futher and only hanging out with them occasionally keeping it light fun and impersonal.

Mars conjunct Neptune in Sag/10th house.

 
14.
seekingzen
seekingzen

I don’t trust easily, so if it’s someone I’ve truly trusted, then they’re gone. I’m done with them and they might as well be dead to me.

If it’s someone I don’t trust deeply, but they still manage to betray me, then they get held at arm’s length for a very long time. Possibly forever, unless they find a way to prove they’re sorry and are trustworthy despite the mistake.

Mars in Cancer, 11th house square 8th house Merc & Venus in Aries.

 
15.
joana
joana

I chose “other” because above all it hurts my feelings. I get maaaad and paralysed by madness. I don’t like people talking about my life in general, I like some secrecy, but then sometimes I realize they have good intentions.

My Mars is in Libra, in a t-square.

 
16.
SaDiablo
SaDiablo

Wyrdling is in my head! It kinda tickles.

1. Don’t do things you wouldn’t want others to know about.
2. Confidences are just that. On the receiving end, keep your mouth shut. Ditto for giving end if you’re not sure the person is 100% worthy.
3. “Kill” those who betray! If you must interact with them, keep it superficial.

I’m a bright lil’ ball of sunshine, yes I am! :D

 
17.
Selkie
Selkie

My Mars is in Gemini in my 9th house (square Pisces Sun[6th];closely sextile both my Leo Uranus[11th] and my Aries Venus [7th]. My answer would’ve been “None of the above.”

“Confront” sounds hostile; if I really want to find out, I just ask them, because I’d be curious to know what the topic was.

The few I really trust are people I KNOW wouldn’t say anything truly bad about me. I wouldn’t trust them in the first place if it were otherwise. That trust has seldom been broken but when it has, I find out if it was just a slip(I slip up too!), then just let it go. If it happens much more, I reevaluate my trust in that person.

I assume that everyone else – including those who HAVE TO be in my life – are just going to say whatever they say. It’s annoying but doesn’t mean much to me. I still might ask out of curiosity. If it’s something truly hurtful or destructive, I’m mainly hurt (I don’t have much of a drive for revenge), & someone who MUST be in my life (relative, co-worker, etc.) said it, I distance myself, mainly internally. With those who don’t HAVE to be in my life, I just don’t return calls and sort of do a slow fade out of their world (my being a Pisces, maybe?).

However, I think that my reaction to a truly INTIMATE betrayal is a separate thing entirely, related MUCH more to my Moon than my Mars position. When family “betrays” me, I don’t even recognize the creature that erupts out of me! Very primitive, to be honest, & nothing like me regularly.

(P.S.- I hope no one takes this the wrong way, but – I have never experienced betrayal like I have from Scorpios… at least in my experience, they can & will turn you AND your world completely upside-down & inside-out should they want to… & they won’t break a bead of sweat while doing it. That’s just my own experience; I also have a wonderful Scorpio friend of nearly 20 years who is fiercely loyal!)

 
18.
kashmiri
kashmiri

Other. I hide and sulk, and then at some random time predetermined by my Mars Opposed Pluto come out with my pick axe and knocks thems skulls together…LOL!! Just kidding..um..only kidding a little.

On another note, I vote wyrdling posts a link to her/his blog…and if s/he doesn’t have one, then get on that asap because your insights are fab-u.

 
19.
Ana
Ana

i distance and don’t get involved. usually i don’t have this problem as i don’t give people sensitive information, so they don’t talk about me (or maybe i just don’t know it?). i agree with wyrdling and sadiablo. i guess people can only betray you when you give them the power to do so! so i don’t do/tell/share things that i wouldn’t want others to know about or do to me ;) and i assume if i tell anyone anything, it then becomes public info so i’m aware of where it can go…and thus censor it as appropriate. because really, a secret is not a secret if anyone else knows :)

 
20.
mychar
mychar

Speaking of betrayal, that’s been happening to me a lot lately. That is something I cannot tolerate, especially if a family member is doing it. If it was a friend I would never befriend them again. I would lose all respect for them. I live by my principles (Mars in 9th house).

 
21.
Caroline
Caroline

I said all of the above. I have Mars in Gemini, variety is the name of the game I suppose.

 
22.
norah
norah

I said ‘drop em completely’ It might take awhile, esp. since I’ve had to do this with inlaws and at least one spouse. But life’s too short to put up with that. Also, I have a Scorp bother and a Scorp sister and they are very good at keeping secrets but also with giving it to you straight… to your face.. and not behind your back.

 
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norah
norah

oh…Mars in Cancer conj Saturn in Cancer squared by Sun in the 9th in Libra. Revenge is not an option for me… it would just harm me.

 
24.
daisynymph
daisynymph

Me too Caroline – Mars in Gemini in the 5th/6th houses. I chose ‘confront them’ though, not ‘all of the above’. I want to know WHY and if I don’t like the answer then they will understand the true meaning of a tongue lashing. They also will no longer be a friend after that and will certainly not get any ‘endoresements’ from me in the future if someone asks. I definitely do not feel that all press is good press. People make their minds up about you based on the stupidest shit sometimes and you never know when you may need a good impression to pave your way in the future!

 
25.
starkttn
starkttn

I picked confront them: Mars conjunct Uranus in Sag gets absolutely livid when I find out someone I trust is discussing intimate things with others that I don’t know. If I know them then it depends on what is revealed, but you never know what was said behind closed doors. What really gets to me is when they try to play it down and act like it’s a usual thing, that everyone talks to everyone else…gah…and then I find it hard to really trust them fully again.

Does this happen to everyone else, or do I overreact and get on my high horse? I mean it is Mars-Uranus in Sag we’re talking about here. :)

I’m still undecided as to what is a secret and what isn’t in this case…say you’re dating someone and you’ve shared intimate things and they tell their friend. Does that count as betrayal, or it just feels like it because it hurts?

 
26.
CArRiE
CArRiE

I said ‘other’. I’ve been the recipient of this in a big way, so I know exactly how I respond. I would rather cut my tongue out than confront them because the bottom line for me is to not allow them to think for one second that I care.

I spent almost 9 years stuck on an Island while a certain number of women (mostly) stabbed be in the back. I went about my life, I didn’t avoid them, and I held my head high. For the most part, people ‘considered’ the source and those that really knew me stuck by me.

 
27.
CP Griffin
CP Griffin

I chose “All of the Above” since circumstance and big picture may vary.

Saggitarus Mars sitting snug on the 6th/7th house cusp. (and you’d think by now I’d have a better idea of how that plays into it..sigh)

 
28.
venusflytrp
venusflytrp

I said distance myself, though I realized after reading others’ comments that I was assuming it wasn’t a close friend. I’ve never had a close friend do this (hey I define ‘close’ strictly, I’m a virgo), but such a person I would ask why. Mars in cancer h6.

 
29.
paulo
paulo

Mars in 9th on Taurus… i hit with the hardest truth, presenting consistent facts.

 
30.
Dawn
Dawn

I simply call them on it. My mother disclosed confidential information to a family member which created a fisure between the two of us, meaning myself and the other family member. To this day, they and I have never disclosed to each other that this happened but I am pretty certain that is why they never contact me. I called my mother on it and of course she denied ever having said anything the first time. But later on admitted she had “and what in the harm is that. So and so is very understanding”. UGH!

 
31.
CLD
CLD

I’m just happy to see I’m in the norm on this one…lol :-) I said distance but I have confronted in the past. Depends what/who it is. My rule is, if it affects my income, home or loved one, then it matters and I handle it diplomatically. Mars in Sag. If not any of those, I just distance. If it’s a friend or someone I love, I try to talk but in my experience, if they’re doing that, there is nothing worth salvaging with that person. So it’s a quick cut and distance.

Doesn’t happen often anymore. Although i’m sure it will again in my life. People confide in me but I don’t say much about myself usually so whatever they do say/judge, I can cut it down easy. Just trying to be more discerning – a LOT more discerning – with who I get to know or let near me. This stuff is always so heartbreaking and upsetting when it happens. Can’t know people like that but sometimes hard for me to tell before they get to friend status (my Venus in Libra I blame for that).

 
32.
Salali
Salali

Mars in Pisces in the 4th, and I’ve only ever mentioned anything that has been out there for a while.

I have no interest in stabbing anyone in the back, or creating trouble. I accidentally embarrassed someone earlier this year, and was mortified (I didn’t even say anything about him, it was just my reaction). He deliberately tried to humiliate me a day later. I couldn’t believe he thought I’d done it on purpose. I’ve vented here, but I haven’t spilled what I know about him – I’ve only mentioned the one thing (and that wasn’t even so private), and I didn’t put a name or a face to it.

My mother tells people things, and I’ve had to specifically ask her to not talk about certain things. But she wouldn’t intentionally hurt me, just as I wouldn’t hurt anyone else. I usually say to most people, “Maybe you shouldn’t tell me.” when it comes to things being brought up, and I used to be as quiet about most things online, as I have been offline.

I feel guilty when I read things like this, because I used to keep so much to myself, and I don’t spread gossip; I’ve said several things here, based on my being anonymous, and I don’t know how anonymous I a, now- but those weren’t state secrets, they were already out there, and I didn’t say anything juicy or to score points. With the certain person threatening to commit suicide on me in february, I vented here, because I culdn’t tell anyone else, and I was scared, and tired- just plain overwhelmed. At the same time, when I remember that, I feel sad for him. He was more unstable than he ever let on, and he expected me to hold to certain rules he wouldn’t hold himself to. There is no way I would deliberately crush him or betray him- funny, when he accused me of that (what I mentioned above), we were arguing after he’d told me that my feelings didn’t matter. everybody else’s did, but that I didn’t personally matter.

 
33.
DB
DB

My Aquarian sun would be civil and politely freeze them out for awhile, and then I would file them in the back of my mind under “do not trust EVER AGAIN”. Scorp rising, 1st house mars Scorpio conjunct neptune.

 
34.
Salali
Salali

there was another comment there… (sorry).

Meant to add that I confront, or let it happen, and watch to see who believes what.

 
35.
Bruce
Bruce

I am very Scorpio with 7 planets in either Scorpio or in the 8th house, my Mars is Aquarius rising, normally house 1 is Mars ruled, leaving my Aries Moon, a Mars ruled sign.

Taurus Saturn rx is the only planet left but it has impact with a t-square vs Mars in Aquarius, and Venus in Scorpio.

Interesting poll, didn’t vote, there are no absolutes.

When I learn someone I trust is discussing me behind my back, I… “Pay Attention”

 
36.
McKenna
McKenna

There are always ways you can turn it to your advantage ;)

Mars in Pisces in the 3rd.

 
37.
Annalisa
Annalisa

When I find someone is talking behind my back I drop them completely. I just can’t get into playing their game so I just move on with my life! Life is too short for that sort of friend!

 
38.
Energy4Life
Energy4Life

all it hurts my feelings. I get maaaad and paralysed by madness.bb==> yeah, that.

 


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