Neptune On The Midheaven – You’ve Got No Guarentees

June 14th, 2011 @ 6:02 am by Elsa

Astrology in real life

I have written more than 100 posts about Neptune on the midheaven and this will be another.  If you have Neptune conjunct your midheaven or Pisces ruling the 10th your public image is going to morph.  This is inevitable. It is outside your control.  If you want to zero in on what I’m talking about just think of a celebrity whose image is static.  There are plenty of people like that…and there are plenty of people like me.

If you’ve been around here awhile, I am sure you have seen people come and go. You’ve seen people love me and then hate me or hate me and then love me and sometimes they go back and forth over and over.

I’ll never forget the gal who wrote a diatribe about how I constantly pissed her off because my Moon was in “X” opposing hers. She went on and on about how she forgave me for pissing her off because of this moon opposition thing between our charts. She granted me some favor because of this and the only problem was, I didn’t have my moon in “X”.

I probably should have just kept my mouth shut but instead I told her, “But I don’t have an X moon”.  This was unforgivable.  I was either in in trouble for not having the moon where she imagined or for saying so but it was a no win situation for me because if I had let her comment lie, I’d have misleading others.

If the same circumstance were to arise today, I would mislead others. I would pretend I did not see the comment. I would not confirm or deny the allegation and while I don’t crave this so much I’ve been beaten so badly for my honest nature, I’ve learned that sometimes it’s better to just STFU.

I was prompted me to write this because I was thinking about the book I wrote.  Neptune on the midheaven obscures my me from the public but also hides my public image from me except for the rare times the veil lifts which is always shocking.  Last week I posted some stuff about my daughter… I published her own words which really brings a person to life.  This made her real to some of the newer readers around here.  She was already real to old-timers but I imagine reading about her caused a shift in some, as far as how they see me.

Yesterday it hit me, I used to be known (8-10 years ago) by the stories I told, some of which went into my (unpublished) book. I don’t tell stories anymore (to speak of) and if people were to read that book today, I think they’d be stunned. They’d probably also be upset by it, they may even be mad in their confusion and I’ll tell you why. It’s because my public image has morphed and it would be a lot of work to try to merge the then with the now.

I know this for sure because I had to merge my memory of my husband with his persona post his career in Special Forces and it was not easy. I’ve also seen that people who knew him during those 20 years find it virtually impossible to grasp my existence, never mind our bond.

It’s like being a small boat on on the beach. I used to be tethered there and you could see me.  You could see this outline of me and at some point the rope was cut and I have drifted A LONG WAY.

There is no way to judge this.  Things are fleeting, I guess, unless you really try to hold on and even then you’ve got no guarantees.

Who can relate?

 


Astrology, , 39 comments   |   Posted at 6:02 am 

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39 Responses to “Neptune On The Midheaven – You’ve Got No Guarentees”

1.
Annalisa
Annalisa

Well, of course, I can. We share that.

 
2.
Mooseman
Mooseman

So, I have Neptune conjunct Midheaven – does that apply?

 
3.
CArRiE
CArRiE

I can relate… With my Neptune on my AC, I think the energy is very similar.

 
4.
Elsa
Elsa

Yes, Mooseman. :)

 
5.
Pixie
Pixie

You’re with people to learn and grow. Is all that pain and sorrow necessary for us to evolve? Sometimes it appears to be true. Bittersweet.

 
6.
lbetters
lbetters

My Neptune is conjunct my Sun I can understand that you are who you are but others may see you as some one else or something else.

 
7.
julianwinter
julianwinter

Fascinating. MC,10th & Moon in Pisces.

I’m constantly told by others they they can’t get a ‘handle’ on me or that I’m elusive.

I used to attribute it to Scorpio Sun but now wonder if others can’t see me through the mist.

 
8.
Mabel
Mabel

Neptune is close to my Asc, so I understand what you’re talking about.

 
9.
WhosThatLady
WhosThatLady

I’m a mermaid, fairy, elusive muse…heard so many fairy tale adjectives about myself. Although, I’ve been a professional in my field(cap mars) for some time now but there is a part of me that is an eternal child. I look way younger than my age too….and I’m always moving so in many senses I can relate to this post. I’m here today, gone tomorrow. flying away into the horizon. People are always wonder what I’m up to but there isn’t a way to ‘generalize’ who I am or what I do. I like this aspect!

 
10.
Maaike
Maaike

I can: Neptune square Pisces MC.
It was a video on Neptune on the midheaven/Pisces MC that once brought me here.

 
11.
learningtoground
learningtoground

Elsa, when you used equal houses in our consult (which put Pisces on midheaven) you lifted the veil for me for a moment. Once lifted nothing is ever the same. No one sees all of me even me. I think they see the part of me they want to see. Often the part that validates or obscures part if them.

 
12.
Josi
Josi

*raises hand*

this part too..
“I’ve been beaten so badly for my honest nature, I’ve learned that sometimes it’s better to just STFU.” Unless I WANT to piss you off or poke you. at that point you are getting the truth I don’t care what you say back. Deal with it.

I have no control over how you see me..you will see what you need to see for whatever reason. But I will still be me. I may not see me, but I do know me and I may change in the eyes of the world and my character may appear to fluctuate but my soul will remain unchanged.

so there.. :)

 
13.
D
D

Here here…

I have Neotune in MC. Strangest thing relating to career, I am an event planner and have a partnership in my business. So with that said, I am the more outspoken one (Leo Sun) and detailed (Virgo, Moon/Ven/Merc) yet, when we meet with our clients somehow it’s as if they never “acknowledge” and my partner get the emails, calls, and follow ups from our clients. It is the oddest thing. Even my partner has taken note of this. Also I can identify with how people “view” me. I have gotten all sorts of judgment. I just figure they’re projecting…or am I merely trying to keep them at bay?

 
14.
Sam
Sam

Just got my Solar Return Report here;-) and I’ve got Neptune conjunct my MC (also Chiron) so I guess this is what I have to look forward to this year…..

I’m hoping it will manifest more in the direction of spiritual/metaphysical healing as a career. I’m taking a reiki class on Sat to start it all off!!!

 
15.
Bruce
Bruce

I can relate, and I’m well aware of no guarentees.

Yes I do have Neptune at Midheaven in my Scorpio, and probably why people I know sometimes get confused of who I am. Then again I’m also Aquarius Rising.

All your Neptune on the Midheaven writings I have read make sence to me and hit home.

 
16.
Sam
Sam

Forgot to add it’s also in Pisces!!!!!

 
17.
Virginia
Virginia

uh oh I have Neptune on the midheaven for the next decade or so…. and I’m finding that daily interactions are less compelling, that I’m evading phone calls and the like, that people are just pushing harder and I’d rather just create work and let that be the communication instead. You can’t really do that however in real time…

 
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Stephanie
Stephanie

I’ve got Neptune conjunct Asc. I think MC conjunct would probably be worse in terms of controlling public image. At least when people do get to know me they seem to get a better grip on who I am. But yeah, first meetings are always rough. It never ceases to amaze me what people read onto me — things that have absolutely nothing to do with who I am.

 
19.
Stephanie
Stephanie

I also sometimes just let people believe what they want about me. It’s just too much work trying to correct people all the time. Recently I had a half hour conversation with a work colleague at a party where it eventually became apparent to me that she had mistaken me for another person at work. I never bothered to correct her, just let her think I was this other person!

 
20.
Elsa
Elsa

Stephanie, that’s extreme. :)

 
21.
Stephanie
Stephanie

I’m not responsible for her delusions. This woman had known me for months. We sat together on a committee that met every other week. How she forgot who I was after that I’ll never know. Btw, the person she mistook me for thought it was hilarious that I did this!

 
22.
Conoco
Conoco

I once had a friend in highschool with Pisces Mid-heaven and one day she was the school whore and the next she was as cleancut as Sandra Dee, Lol.

It’s like with this placement you’re stoned or people look at you like you’re a perfect angel that needs protecting, it was strange to see astrology in the works!

 
23.
brizo
brizo

I have this placement. Sometimes people get a wrong impression of me based on a misunderstanding and there doesn’t seem to be any way to correct this. The more I try to clarify the worse it gets…

And then I start feeling like I’m whining. *sigh*

I guess that old adage is true, it’s none of my business what other people think of me. It isn’t “me” as I know me, but *meh*

 
24.
merle
merle

Pisces MC here. I am shocked sometimes by people’s incorrect perceptions of me. I change my image frequently and can quite painlessly chop off all my hair on a whim, adopt a different style, or even manner. I also have gemini moon and mercury conj MC. I would never get a tattoo because I know I wouldn’t want it for very long. I often feel that the person I was even 2 years ago is someone I have little in common with. My outlook on life changes very rapidly. I know that this alienates some of the steadier, earthier people out there. I don’t have any earth in my chart and maybe this is why I always feel like I’m on my way to somewhere else.

 
25.
J
J

Totally. Neptune on the MC conjunct the Sth Node,& Merc, and a Pisces AC. I’m a bit too susceptible to other people’s perceptions of me as well as everything else in the room. Stephanie, I’ve been there, pretty frequently. D, I get that too. Normally courteous people will just talk over me in a conversation again & again, as if I’m invisible. It’s bizarre and if I resist it, it’s worse. Yes, projections all the time. I’m not who I was, but then, I’m not always sure who I was….

 
26.
Elsa
Elsa

Welcome, J. :)

 
27.
Les
Les

Jupiter/Neptune opposite the Midheaven – not sure if that counts! I’m comfortable with unpredictable and complex people – it’s fun to see different sides of people coming out. (Maybe it’s my Moon/Uranus/ASC.) I know a lot of people aren’t and that sort of thing freaks them out.

Like Sam, my next solar return features Neptune conjunct the MC. Hope my job search leads me to something more spiritually meaningful, rather than just confusing!

 
28.
Fairhaven Maven
Fairhaven Maven

I have had Neptune transiting my 10th house forever, besides which I have natal Neptune trining the Midheaven and Ascendent, and Gemini (the shape-shifter) rising.

I can, like, totally relate.

Downside of this is that there often is no public recognition for accomplishments. Upside is you can do a whole lot for the public good as a behind-the-scenes invisible influence.

Pluto in the 4th also influences this. When I accepted that people are going to project onto me what they need or want to see, I stopped worrying so much about my so-called public image and about what others may say. You often talk about that lesson, Elsa.

 
29.
genius
genius

Elsa have you personally seen people who serve the public in some way deriving benefit for this Neptune placement??

One should get into glamor, movie business or work in the field of oil/gas/water related activities so that it works well..

 
30.
genius
genius

to nullify some of neptune foginess I have MC ruler Jupiter tightly conjunct Saturn

 
31.
Bruce
Bruce

Genius, that’s an interesting array of careers. Entertainment and Public Works.

As a Neptune Midheaven Guy who works to serve and protect the public this topic is interesting too me.

 
32.
Sam
Sam

Like genius, I’m also very interested to hear about the positive manifestation of this placement, if anyone has any examples??

 
33.
Elsa
Elsa

This blog is a positive manifestation of this.
It would not exist if Neptune were not on my midheaven.
But I will write about this more, provided I can remember. I am sorry but my husband is home and I am distracted now.

 
34.
Sam
Sam

So true Elsa!!!!! :-)

 
35.
Bruce
Bruce

Maybee it’s my Aquarius Rising talking but my Scorpio Neptune at the Midheaven is okay with me.

 
36.
Skye11
Skye11

Neptune is not conjunct my MC but it resides in the 10th and I have a Pisces rising. I honestly dont know how I appear to people anymore.

 
37.
redlotus
redlotus

Aside from neptune’ changing your image or the way you’re percieved, I thought also that Neptune conjuncting the midheaven meant work in psychic/spiritual or metaphysical fields, such as astrology, being a medium, tarot reader etc. Am I wrong?

 
38.
Elsa
Elsa

Welcome, redlotus. No, you’re not wrong. It is certainly true for me. :) But there are other careers as well.

 
39.
redlotus
redlotus

Thank you Elsa. I comment because Neptune has been a great source of confusion in my lifeI have Neptune in the tenth conjuncting my midheaven. ***Sigh*** I do find that I am very involved in metaphysics and the unknown, but it isn’t necessarily a career.

 


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