Saturn In Libra Circa Early 1980′s: Read And Laugh And Learn
Astrology in real life.
I don’t remember when I wrote this. 2003, maybe, but it takes place when I was 19 years old and Saturn was in Libra as it is now. I thought it would be interesting to put this up here as it is rife with Saturn in Libra themes like boundaries, manners, social control…plus it’s entertaining.
The back story here is that I had recently found out that my boyfriend (my current husband) had married someone else and not only that, his wife was pregnant. I was devastated but this story takes place about 3 or 4 months later.
I’d not gone out with anyone since the break up with my boyfriend. Saturn was in Libra and I was complete bereft. I was so badly hurt I could not bring myself to date. I also thought I might be at fault for the situation and just strongly felt I should get off the merry-go-round and try to straighten myself out. I’d become a true loner as I tried to process things.
It was April and it was my brother’s birthday. I had the red motorcycle my boyfriend who married someone else had given me, so that was my car. My brother was super popular at the time. He was like a rock star and I did not want to go to his party because girls gushed all over him and this disturbed me.
I didn’t want to go for some other reasons but mostly I was just in a very serious BROOD and there was no way I wanted to deal with this party, the women and whatever. I was depressed, I was oppressed, I wanted to be alone BUT.
But I felt some responsibility to my brother, as his big sister so I decided to go to the party and decorate his truck with balloons and happy birthday streamers (outside the party) and then take off without going inside. I was satisfied with this idea, provided I could pull it off .
I had the streamers and tape and stuff under the seat of my motorcycle but I was feeling soooo bad and so wanting to get this done, I was running a little early so I had 20 minutes to kill before I figured the party would be going and I could get this done without being seen and roped into attending and this is what happened… (excerpt from story: “The Blond” – has swearing)
…I was waiting to sense a window open up where I felt I could get over there, decorate the truck and get the hell out and be able to breathe normally again. So I walked into the bar and it was packed. This was a major singles place but I didn’t have anything like that on my mind because look at what I did have on my mind. The trauma of my brother’s birthday, that’s all and it was huge. My heart was in my throat about it so I chose this bar because it was familiar.
I also knew the bartender as a peer. I greeted him, got my drink and went to post up at a bar type setup, built around a pole. Can you picture this? It was a set-up conducive to people cruising each other. People sit on stools around a bar that is built in a square shape, so they’re facing each other with the pole in the middle. Maybe three people could sit at each stretch of bar but the place was full, so people were two-deep around this pole. About fourteen people were gathered, facing each other, facing the pole.
There was nowhere to sit but a blond guy popped up to let me sit down so I took his chair. He stood next to me and I could feel him focus on me. Ugh, I thought. No, I don’t like you and I have a lot on my mind. I had this brother problem, right? I had guilt and so forth. I was in the mood to brood, that’s all, and I didn’t need anything else.
I actually thought about moving but I didn’t. The place was packed for one thing and I did want to sit down. Plus I was very comfortable in a bar and I was sure I could get rid of this guy. Also, I was leaving in fifteen minutes anyway. I thought I should be okay.
To be continued.
Well, he started to chat me up. The Blond, I mean. I’m not really a mean or a rude person unless pushed so I just maneuvered. I thwarted him by starting to chat up *everyone. Know what I mean? He said “How are you doing tonight?” and I answered, “fine”. But rather than address him directly, I asked everyone at the square how they are doing tonight. What I did was hold court. I became the cruise director of this section of bar.
I’d tended bar for close to five years by then. I’d grown up in a bar so I was a natural in the environment. I was adept and basically I just took control. I grabbed the floor and started to tell jokes about my brother. I tapped dance so this guy couldn’t get a foot in. I planned to do a little “Elsa show”, down my OJ and soda and then hit the road before Blondie could make his move.
I started in about my brother since this was what was on my mind anyway. I went into a monologue about how my baby brother had women chasing him down the street. How everyone wanted to screw him and how I just couldn’t figure it out why this was. “What do they see in him?” I wondered out loud.
I explained it was my brother’s birthday but that I was having trouble with the idea he was growing up. I told them that he’d grown hair under his arms, for example and how this just floored me, right there. “When the hell did that happen?” I asked in Rodney Dangerfield style. Everyone laughed. They could not believe my audacity, I guess but I did this for a living five days a week so it was nothing to me. “I don’t remember giving clearance for that shit!” I said.
“Well, it sounds like you brother is a man,” someone at the square shouted out.
“A man? What the hell are you talking about? That’s. Not. Possible.,” I said with a snort.
“How old is he?”
”Eighteen.”
”How old are you?”
”Nineteen!” I said, snorting again.
I kept it up like that. There was a lot of banter and a lot of laughing. So far so good. I explained how I had all these balloons stashed on my motorcycle and how I didn’t want to go in the party. I outlined my plan and ten minutes passed. Five to go I’d be clear, The Blond.
“Why don’t you just go to the party?” he asked.
”I am going to the party! I’m just not going inside.”
”Why don’t you go inside?”
”No, no, no, no. I don’t want to go in.”
“Why not?”
”Uh…because I’m shy!”
On that, everyone roared even though it’s true.
The Blond offered to go with me. He offered to help me with the balloons. See, he was on to me wasn’t he? Like a fucking pit bull he was, I could feel him.
Well hell. I needed that like a hole in my head. I needed him helping with balloons, NOT. I was so stressed, you know. I didn’t need company so I thanked him politely but refused and he came back with, “Then how about we go to dinner sometime?”
“No. No thank you,”I said. “It’s very nice of you to ask, though. I’m flattered,” said my wee bit of Libra. “I really am, but no. I don’t want to do that. I just want to get that damn truck done…”
I really didn’t want to hurt this guy’s feelings. I trailed off like that to save his face but he didn’t take the out.
“Um… It doesn’t have to be tonight. You won’t be decorating your brother’s truck tomorrow, will you?”
”Well no.”
He picked up my left hand and I thought he was a fucker. I didn’t want him to touch me. I make my interest in a man abundantly clear when it exists and I don’t like being handled when it doesn’t.
He looked down at my ring finger. “Well you aren’t married. Come on. Just dinner. No strings. I just want to spend some time with you.”
The whole square waited for my response.
“Well, I’m sorry. I’m not interested.”
The crowd booed. Fuckers. Who do they think has been entertaining them the last few minutes? See how my life is? I can never win.
“How do you know? You don’t even know me.”
“So? I’m sorry. I just don’t want to go and that’s all there is to it.”
He looked hurt and I felt sorry about it but I still didn’t want to go out with him. As soon as I thought that, I glanced over at him to make sure. You know. In case I missed something, seeing as I was rejecting him in public.
I stared and sized him up. He was 5’11, blond hair, well dressed, and nope. I didn’t want to go. I kept quiet and hoped the crowd turned at least neutral for me. I didn’t know how I’d pissed them off, but I had.
There was a huge guy in a Hawaiian shirt across the square. I liked him because he was funny. He’d gotten off some good lines and he decided to jump in the fray.
”I don’t believe this,” he said. “Why won’t you go out with this guy?”
”What do you mean? Because I don’t want to go out with him. Why don’t you go out with him?” I countered.
He laughed. “I did! I do! We’re here together.”
Hmm. I didn’t know that. They weren’t sitting together.
“Well good. Then he’s got you to go out with because I don’t want to go out with him, okay?”
“Why not?” asked the big guy.
“Why not?” asked the blond guy.
“Why not?” asks all the people at the square.
“Oh brother. Because I don’t want to.” I answered.
“Well, I can’t believe this,” said Hawaiian Shirt. “This man offers to take you to dinner. He asks you politely and you turn him down. Do you know who you just turned down a date with?”
I cocked my thumb to my left. “Him.” I was starting to get a little hot. Not mad, but “hot” as in flushed and embarrassed. The situation has turned. I no longer had control and I was not having a good night to begin with.
“Well do you know who he is?” he asked.
”A guy who wants to go out with me?” I didn’t say it snottily. I said it hoping someone will step in and defend me. The square laughed.
“Right. A guy who wants to go out with you. A nice guy. Look around. Look at all the men here.”
I looked around. There were a dozen men around the pole. I was the only woman. “Yeah?” I said.
“Who stood up and offered you their chair?”
I pointed to the blond. “He did.”
”Right. So what does that tell you?”
”That he has decent manners. So what!” I could really feel the heat in my cheeks.
“Well that man who offered you his chair and then asked you to go out with him, also happens to be the most eligible bachelor in this city,” Hawaiian Shirt explained.
I swung my head to look at him. “Really?” This started to piss me off. What the fuck am I? Chopped liver? “Then I guess he can get a date besides me,” I said, now starting to flare.
The big guy winced but smiled.
The Blond looked kind of flabbergasted.
The people at the square were riveted.
“Lemme get this straight,” says the big guy. “The most eligible bachelor in the city asks you to dinner, no strings attached, and he also happens to be rich. VERY rich and you just dismiss him with a wave of your hand?”
”Uh… Yeah. I guess so. I just did that.”
“And you don’t want to change your mind, knowing what you do? Now that you know he’s rich?”
”No. No, I don’t want to change my mind.”
”Are you telling me that you really don’t want to go out with him?”
”Yes. I’m telling you that. Repeatedly, I think.”
”Even knowing what I just told you? It’s true by the way. He’s a very wealthy man. It’s a fact. Do you believe me? Do you believe the man standing next to you that wants to take you to dinner is a very rich man?”
I looked over at The Blond. “Yeah, I believe it.”
“Why? Because he looks like a classy man?”
”Yes. Yes he does.”
”But you still don’t want to go out with him?”
”Right. I don’t. No.”
”Well aren’t you a kick in the ass.”
He laughed out loud and it helped. We all laughed. But it was time to do the truck now and I wanted to leave.
“What’s the matter with you, that you don’t want to go out with a rich man who also just happens to be a perfect gentleman?”
”I don’t know. What’s wrong with him, that he wants to go out with someone who doesn’t want to go out with him?”
People laughed. Some of them were nervous.
“Well listen, Elsa.”
Yeah, I told them my name.
“I think this is a travesty.”
I stared.
“My friend over there is a classy man. As classy as you could meet. He’s a nice man. He’s a good man, who also happens to be a millionaire many times over and he wants a date with you. I’ll tell you what. You don’t think that you like him so much, right?”
”Right.”
”But you like me?”
Actually, I did. Like I said, Hawaiian had made me laugh. And even if I was flushed at the moment this was still kind of interesting. I mean the guy was not a bore. That and I trusted him..sort of. He just seemed to have something on the ball and I was badly in need of an alliance.
“Yes. I do like you,” I answered.
“Well, guess what? I’m married so you’re out of luck.”
Everyone roared. Me too. He was funny, but I thought he was a fucker. I didn’t say I was interested in him. I was not interested in him but I let it go. And he did have my attention, I’ll admit. This was unusual now and I liked that. Stories, man. I can always use a good story.
“But my friend isn’t married,” the big man said. “He’s a single man. A rich, single, available man who’s interested in you.”
“Okay. Okay. I know it. So what?” I felt my face burn. I was really heated up, “What do you want me to do about that? He can gets lots of dates.” I turned to The Blond. “Can’t you?” I asked.
Before he could answer I had an idea. “Hey, I know. How about I stand up on this stool and tell everyone in this place that there’s a rich guy over here that wants a date? What do you think? I bet somebody will be interested and then you can all leave me alone about it.”
The Blond looked around. “But I want to have dinner with you.”
“Oh man. Well, I’m sorry. I’m sorry but I’m sure you can get another date.”
A few people in the square told me to cut the guy a break. “Go out with the guy. Give the guy a chance.”
Fuckers. See how this is? Man, I felt hot. Hawaiian jumped back in. “Do you know who I am?”
”No, I don’t.”
”Well I own, blah, blah, blah and blah.”
One of the blahs was one of the premier restaurants in the city. I’d never been there.
“Oh.”
”So here’s my offer. I’d like you to have dinner with my friend, as my guest. I’ll pick up the tab so you’ll owe him nothing. No obligation. You don’t have to do anything and he doesn’t have to do anything. You can take you own car. There’ll be no obligation at all. I just want you to give my friend a chance.”
”I drive a motorcycle.”
“You don’t have a car?
“No.”
People laughed and I didn’t understand.
“Okay, whatever. We can send a car if you want. Never mind the details. Don’t sweat the small stuff. All you have to do is show up at my restaurant and share a first rate dinner with my friend. No strings. No strings at all.”
I nodded.
“If you don’t like him, you can leave the restaurant, go home and he’ll never bother you again. You have my guarantee on that. Unless you want him too, I mean. So what do you say? You don’t even have to give him your phone number if you don’t want.”
I still didn’t want to go but I didn’t think it would be sporting to turn down this offer. I’m a good sport for the most part. The whole square stared at me.
“Okay, I’ll do it! Uh… But I have to go decorate the truck now,” I said. “I have to go.”
”She has to decorate a truck,” he said, shaking his head. “Okay, Elsa, but we have a deal, right? Friday night. Eight O’clock. I’ll hold the best table for you. And my best staff will serve you. Do you want us to send a car to pick you up?”
“No, I’ll drive.”
“You’ll get a car? Borrow one or something?”
“No. I’ll come on my bike.”
He laughed. “You’re coming to dinner on a motorcycle?”
“Yes.”
“What kind of motorcycle do you have?”
”A red Kawasaki.”
The whole square laughed and I blushed. I didn’t think they believed me. Fuckers! Man, I felt hot.
“Well okay then. We’re on. See you Friday. Can’t wait.” He extended his hand across the square and we shook to seal the deal. He prompted me and I shook The Blond’s hand as well.
“I have to go.” I said. I wanted to leave the bar but I also felt a window open up around my brother’s truck. I thought I could slip in and out, but I had to get..
“But you’ll be at dinner, Friday?” Hawaiian asked.
“Yeah. Yeah, I will. Thanks. I gotta go. Bye.”
I left the bar thinking, jeez Louise. What the fuck was that? What have I gotten myself into?
Outside, I unlocked my helmet and climbed on my bike. Looks like I had myself a date. I was not so sure it was good news but the main thing was this birthday truck.
I took off to go decorate hoping it goes better than this did…
What Saturn in Libra themes can you identify in this?
Part 2 – This is How We Do It In The Desert

29 Responses to “Saturn In Libra Circa Early 1980′s: Read And Laugh And Learn”
Oh yeah, I went on the date. We had an agreement and I follow through on things like this.
As for what happened, I won’t spoil the story because you never know.
Saturn in Libra themes?
I was thinking of how the Hawaiian shirt took over the situation.. ! Its kind of ..he felt responsible for his friend.
He was married.. and his friend was ‘the’ bachelor.
Maybe he wanted his friend to find a stable relationship and he was convinced that you are the one for him.
I really didnt figure out yet, how Saturn in Libra works. So maybe I am completely wrong
hehe
There are boundaries, a negotiation, my attempt to politely (Libra) control (Saturn) things, people picking sides, social rejection… etc.
To me this SCREAMS Saturn in Libra.
The party thing with my brother as well. I want to limit my interaction with others, but do the right thing, socially.
The shirt is supporting his friend, the blond by offering tangible social goods, that are not at all inconsiderate of me (no obligation).
If it would have been me I would have cried because my feelings didn’t matter. I’ve been cornered into going out like that before and they get one miserable date which I can’t wait to escape from. I don’t know why in the hell they think this is going to turn out great for them and me.
I see compromise. You compromised to make everyone happy. Also yes the guy in the Hawaiian T-Shirt was taking up a very fatherly role with the whole situation. He wouldn’t let you off the hook either (Saturn). Maybe it was something to help you learn about compromise and letting go of control to make other’s happy? I dunno! Just throwing it out there!
OMG! This Aries moon cannot wait to read the rest of this!! I have a similar story but I married the guy..
Great story Elsa, I have to admit it made me feel a little uncomfortable for you. I just simply hate when people are pushy like that, it tends to make me more resolute. When I say No I mean No. Did you feel the “pushiness” was ego based? I can definitely see the Saturn in Libra machine going into effect in that situation, it seemed like Saturn was holding you there (not releasing you in a sense) and Libra was manipulating you under the guise of being polite. I find I am always tethered in the web of this dynamic when I deal with 3 unrelated people I know, one a scorpio male who is a relative, another a scorpio male I used to date and the last an aquarian female (rising scorpio) a close friend.
Welcome, Emmanuelle.
I don’t know what I felt about the pushiness beyond what I expressed in the story. I was not connected to the episode, just trying to get in and out and deal with my life which I felt was in tatters. I was in an inordinate amount of pain, with my feelings private. I just didn’t have anyone in my life at that point, who I could talk to in any capacity so I was trying to use skills I had to distract an annoyance…and I failed.
I didn’t feel bad about it when I agreed to go to dinner or I’d have not agreed. The Shirt guy cheered me up because I really am a game type person, I sensed a story and the fact is, I had been morose awhile. Might this mark the change?
The reader has a disadvantage here because I cut into the story at a certain point. This story, when whole is the story of a storyteller.
For this purpose, this story came up on the boards over the last days, first because I used to ride that motorcycle in a dress and second because I was talking about being old enough to vividly recall Saturn’s last transit through Libra.
That I committed (this time) to the exact man that I did not commit to last time is pretty hard-core and defining. Someone was interested in this cycle, so I pulled this up.
Also, a lot of people know me around here or feel they do so this is a glimpse into what I went through to try to grow up as a teenager, balance things, do the right thing, etc. The results are in today.
Example, had I gone and burned my (ex) boyfriend’s life down / lashed out in some way, I’d not be married to him today. This story is quite deep, at least it is for me.
Thanks for your comment.
Also, my currency is defined her and it is not $. Sport is what hooks me (9th house).
Also to decorate (Libra) a truck (Mars) arriving on a motorcycle (Mars Mercury) due responsibility (Saturn). I had Saturn on my planets as I do now and I was trying (as I am now) to do the right thing by others but to mind my own self-interest as well.
Also, this represents me trying to merge with people (as I still strive to today) but back when I had only been in town a few years.
I was making them laugh in some places, on purpose but they were laughing at me in other places and I had no idea why.
My personality was not a put on. I didn’t know I was strange, I just had no earthly idea but I did know that something momentous had taken place when my bf married someone else. I mean, I had to regroup something fierce as I really didn’t think I could absorb another blow at that point,
At that point, I had been pummeled for almost 20 years and obviously no one could tell. The level of pummeling was as extreme as pretty much any story you have ever heard. I come from the outer rim, I’ll tell you that. Way, way out on the continuum, not that anyone believes me.
Anyway, it’s a life.
Thanks so much for welcoming me Elsa.
I read your blog daily and have finally gotten up the nerve to post. This blog has helped me tremendously in the most surreal way. Generally, without fail, if I have something on my mind that I have been trying to sort through or I’m just having a crazy day, I can go to this blog and generally one of the posts for THAT DAY in some shape form or fashion relates to what I’m dealing with. Then there is the astrology angle,of course. I find astrology fascinating and view many things from an astrological perspective, unfortunately I haven’t found many people who have the same “appreciation” for astrology that I have,so in the past it has made some of my discussions with friends either quite limited with my responding to there querries with ” well, what is the persons sun/rising sign?” etc… and them not understanding why I would ask that in the first place, or me simply listening but not fully offering what I really think because an astrological perspective isn’t really respected.. it’s been a tricky and exhausting balance and recently I pulled back quite a bit from folks that aren’t on the same page I’m on, and I have to say that your blog has just been awesome in filling in this new gap and reassuring me that there are folks out there that have similar interests and think as I do about some things.
I do empathize with how you were feeling as this scenenario was unfolding.I think its great that you were game enough to go on the date and fully let the story develop ( cuz life is just a great story isn’t it?) and of course the caveat is that you and your former boyfriend/now husband reconnected and are now married!
This scenenario does sort of remind me of a dynamic I was in recently. I was invited to a party via a friend and this time decided not to decline because I thought I might try being polite and amenable and flexible ( when I really just wanted to stay home and watch Masterpiece Theater, maybe some british comedy and read ElsaElsa). So I agreed to go to the party and once there I sensed it was a bad idea. I generally can get on with anyone and I can be quite social, but this was just awkward. It was all married couples with children that were younger than me. The wives sat in a different room from the husbands and only discussed their children or how they didn’t like how their husbands bonded over their weekly game of dominoes. Well my boyfriend and I aren’t married and we don’t have children, and personally I think its great that he spends time with the fellas weekly, so I felt like I was in the Twilight Zone, or a bad episode of leave it To Beaver.Thankfully the convo shifted to the royal wedding, something I was excited to discuss,however when I made a reference to when Diana and Charles got married I was met with blank stares and told by a few of the wives there that they didn’t really remember that wedding specifically….errm WTF?!I politely (Libra) excused myself to the livingroom with the husbands. The hostess followed closely and offered me a drink which I declined. Actually over the past two years I just really lost my taste for alcohol. But the hostess was insistent and I didn’t want to appear rude (Libra) and strangely EVERYONE was staring at me as if the party’s success depended upon accepting the drink. So I thought what the heck I just roll with Libra all the way and play nice and accept. When I got the drink I literally couldn’t stomach any of it and it was a really really weak drink. Well at that point I just thought enough of you Libra, no more being polite – I’m done. I told the host the truth, that I’ve just really lost my taste for liquor and guess what? she promptly offered to make me another drink ( which she did at lightning speed)! At that point I just laughed and realized why I am a straight foward person by nature and that in a sense Saturn in Libra had me in its clutches.
Sorry for this enormous post, but it is my first and I’m a bit giddy about engaging with all of you ElsaElsa folk and I did want to use it as an opportunity to again tell you Elsa how great I think this blog is.
That was great Elsa!
what a fun read elsa ![]()
i like picturing you on that red bike.
this illuminates an ongoing tension i’ve had recently (with my brother no less) around decorum and what’s expected of me…never dawned on me to connect it to saturn in libra. it has dawned on me to not let that crap get to me! guilt is the lamest of motivators. but pervasive. blech.
Unrelated, but made me think of how I hated running into people at the store when I was a kid. Sometimes I would sneak past them, or they would sneak up on me, and I hated that!
Saturn is going through my 3rd. Like Emmanuelle wrote, sometimes I just want to stay home to watch kpbs, but there’s something that challenges me and makes me follow through with it. I don’t know, maybe it makes me conform sometimes.
Nice story, Elsa, it’s really a happy-end story, you were lucky!
The boundaries built by your pain with the ex were redefined by a group of very cheerful people. I think you were the Saturn figure, all restrained and in control, locked inside the rejection and pain. And they were the Libra that didn’t just dimiss you calling you a ‘wet blanket’, they insisted, they were supportive and by negotiating the terms they managged to get through your walls. It’s nice to know the universe cares enough about you to send this kind of people your way.
My apologies too for long post! Though I love this post and thread.
This is a really interesting story. I didn’t see the Saturn in Libra themes right away, but with the follow up comments it’s now REALLY clear to me how this applies in my own life. Also Pluto in Cap and when you mention how that is destroying family. Couples – two adults being committed – is the upstart of a family. Like a lot of women my age (28) I got the family (a son) without any marriage, not even a man I could trust to be a co-parent. I was born at Saturn 0 Scorpio, so Saturn in Libra was the time that led up to my birth. From what I know, my mom asked my dad to have a 4th and last kid, me, because they had a loveless marriage. I kept her company, not my dad. Meanwhile my dad kept up his affairs. I was the war reparation. So I am the result of a Saturn in Libra negotiation.
Fast forward to me as an adult, and I am learning Saturn in Libra from my and my parents’ MISTAKES. I desperately looked for love in Neptunian ways, sacrificing my own needs for a fantasy. And now I know that happiness can only be built on a foundation of REALITY. True romance, what does it mean? Because a guy who doesn’t WANT to look at the ledger of your relationship, and know for sure if it is fair, doesn’t truly WANT you. So where’s the romance in that?
[Side note: interesting how you refer to yourself as a storyteller, Elsa. You are clearly passionate about your stories, yet as you mentioned about Neptune in your chart, you consistently veil yourself. You may reveal certain things for effect, but mostly you leave much to mystery. My guess is you are committed to the storytelling, and so you remove the unique aspects of your personality when you see them getting in the way of that. I think this is effective and very Neptunian - using the story to reach ALL people regardless of creed.]
“My guess is you are committed to the storytelling, and so you remove the unique aspects of your personality when you see them getting in the way of that. I think this is effective and very Neptunian – using the story to reach ALL people regardless of creed.]”
You know, I am not conscious of things when I tell stories. Er… here:
These stories tell themselves and the way they damned well please… I’m not kiddin’ you, I have nothing to do with it.
I have no craft and when someone tries to teach me some or give me some, it usually results in a whole lot of tears.
@Elsa – however way you do it, keep doing it! I laughed about trucks in that post. Such a perfect metaphor for Mercury-Mars. It gives me the idea to find how Moon-Mars plays out for me (something I’ve overlooked before,probably to my detriment! I’m sure food is involved
) This is why I love astrology, because the themes are there, the writing is on the wall if only we choose to read it.
“As for what happened, I won’t spoil the story because you never know”
Hahaha, I gotcha. I’m just nosy, and anyways I always love the next chapter!
As for Saturn in Libra, and the last transit – what you wrote above suddenly made my decision to marry starkly explicable! I’ve always wondered since why I did it, why I went through with it… I kinda knew RIGHT FROM THE START it was a bad idea, but I’d sort of got myself into this situation, where the only way out of it was to get married to the guy. I almost did it out of politeness! Complex story, and I’m going to give the astrology of that a lot of thought – I’ve certainly now got another way of looking at it
Charles and Diana’s marriage was another kind of Saturn in Libra situation: he was pushed into it, and went along with it, out of obligation (reasons of state). He made a compromise with his feelings, and expected that she would understand that and keep her side of the bargain. Unfortunately she was too young and naive (and too stuffed with the romances of Barbara Cartland) to realise what was going down…
LOL. NO WAY would I have EVER said yes no matter what anyone said, no way, no how, and I’ve been to the best places there are.
You are too nice, Elsa, always were when it comes to men!
Damn them.
No way, no how. Not enough Libra in me.
I like the story though.
Now days our brother is not getting that kind of action, ha ha! Who is?
gosh i am glad i survived nineteen. saturn was playing on my sun and venus back then.
imo the first transits are the worst.
Boundaries! And people not respecting them! Geeeeez!
dorchid – I like what you said about building on reality. I am surprised how once I tuned into that, I kept meeting men that didn’t want to meet me on that level… hence my current “out to lunch” status.
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God I love these stories.
Great story… esp as we are left hanging for the denouement! I’ve gone out with men like that just because they were persistent and there seemed to be no polite way out of it… and my Taurus Moon loves going out to dinner anyway
But I’ve quite often found the occasion an ordeal and wished I’d stuck it out!
So……. did you go in the end? – and how was it?