Standing In Front Of The Judge

February 11th, 2011 @ 11:03 am by Elsa

Astrology in real life

When you have a Saturn transit, invariably Saturn figures cross your path. I had to go court yesterday with three people opposing me.

I go to court a lot and I always have.  With one recent exception, I always represent myself.  This is not to say I’m comfortable in court because I’m not. I do it because it is what makes sense to me in each instance.

In whatever case, I went to court and decided to ask the judge if I could be excused from the case. Obviously, I thought this was reasonable.

The judge agreed.  As a matter of fact, he finished my sentence for me. “Your Honor, based on this and this, I was wondering…”

“If you have to be here?”

“Yes.  Do I have to be here?”

“No, you don’t.”

“Yes, she does”, called out two of my three opponents, correcting the judge in his own courtroom.

“No, she does not,” he said sternly.

They argued with him again.

“She does not need to be here,” he said again, stating the obvious. “You may go,” he addressed me with a smile.

“Thank you, Your Honor,” I said, lowering my head and humbly leaving the courtroom.

Whew!

Saturn give you a pass lately?


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27 Responses to “Standing In Front Of The Judge”

1.
CP Griffin
CP Griffin

Its been awhile for me, but, whew, do I know that feeling!
Good for you, Elsa! Glad to hear it & hope that it marks a door closing on a stress/time bandit for you.

 
2.
Elsa
Elsa

Well, I am going to be back in court on something else, this month. I am expecting another summons probably within a few days but at least this much was wrapped up.

 
3.
goinghome
goinghome

Yes – I think I am in the process of getting a big one at work.

Thanks for tying it together Elsa and way to go on your pass. I love it when people argue with judges – I always think “oh boy”.

 
4.
josi
 
5.
Elsa
Elsa

They yelled out in his courtroom, in tandem! Sometimes your DE-gree doesn’t do you all that much good, especially when you’re overcome and blinded by your hate for, Elsa P. Elsa P who neither women had ever met in their lives by the way.

I guess they had that jaw-dropped look on their face, as I walked out yesterday but hey! It’s not like I didn’t warn them. Being a Saturn figure myself, I told them the day before, their thinking was off.

Unfortunately for them, they think I am an uneducated peasant and they’re glorified.

The judge smacked them 4 times before I left and who knows what happened after I left.

 
6.
Dixie
Dixie

arguing with the judge = BAD idea. geez.

 
7.
Luna
Luna

P, this reminds me of your video about the old man’s advice to let the weaker person fill the vacuum with their rants. I’ve got that written down and tucked away as there is much sense and wisdom in it. Of course the old man was a Saturn figure too!

 
8.
Tam
Tam

Court is not a good place to show your ignorance! LOL Or your a** for that matter. Wow…some people.

 
9.
Dawn
Dawn

Yes! I won a judgement recently…no one else did that day…they threw them out!

 
10.
Jilly
Jilly

wow – arguing with a judge? really?

I’ve never been to court, but I did get a disability insurance claim approved.

 
11.
Elsa
Elsa

It was worse than arguing. They corrected him. :)

 
12.
Jilly
Jilly

hahahahahahahahahaha
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etc
etc

 
13.
Elsa
Elsa

One of them corrected him from the podium, the other from the peanut gallery – such was their venom and desire to hurt, punish and chastise, P, as as so common with people, someone has to burn. Let it be Elsa!

 
14.
eva
eva

Don’t you love it though? I love when my adversary tries to get one over the judge. hahahahahahahha.

I swear people have no idea where they are or what laws actually say and this has been my advantage every time.

 
15.
Elsa
Elsa

Just imagine someone sitting in the bleachers yelling to the judge, they had it wrong… as if they were doing him a favor, enlightening the motherfucker with their superior knowledge.

This is why I specialize in court issues. This is why.

 
16.
Elsa
Elsa

Well, I guarantee you these people are so stupid, they did not learn a thing. I am serious. I am sure they left there with NO humility, NO learning but certainly madder than ever at me.

 
17.
Elsa
Elsa

See, people have been hating me since I was about 4, aka as long as I can remember and they have been trying to take me out in a variety of ways for just as long and apparently this is not apparent to people even though I TELL them this is the case.

My sister told me once, that I was not sporting with people. She said I played dumb. Well I have news for my sister, it doesn’t matter. I can tell whoever, exactly what it is, what it means, what is going to happen and every other damn detail and if they can’t discern that I may (even potentially or possibly) know what I am talking about, it doesn’t mean a damn thing.

Even after it happens… exactly as I said it would, they still just think, Elsa P = Bitch an that’s it. They can’t get out of the paper bag.

This is horrifying of course. HORRIFYING.

I wish you knew someone who knew me because if you did, I am sure they would tell you, Elsa is horrified at stupidity. In other words, this is not a fun game. It is a horrifying game, punishing and painful.

 
18.
eva
eva

I can completely relate to this. I hate having to defend myself. I was thinking about something else you said, about how you hate to fight. One of my exes adored fighting, it got him excited and all he saw was an opportunity to win, whereas I just find it exhausting and it hurts my feelings and terrifies me, and usually afterwards depending on how bad it is I have to go to bed for a couple of months.

Between the ex and me, I won. I usually win but it doesn’t matter because I actually lost — because I dont want to fight!

But it’s a cold comfort to know you’re going to win. Especially in court. If you’re on the right side of the law it’s good know at least the judge thinks you have the right to walk around, stand up and live.

 
19.
Elsa
Elsa

relate completely, eva. Why are we even doing this? Never mind, over and over and over and over.

 
20.
Jamie
Jamie

I relate, too, Eva (and Elsa). Nothing exhausts me more than fighting and having to defend myself to stupid people or those who just like to fight or oppose others out of some unexamined compulsion. Because to me, also, if I have to fight a stupid fight, I’ve already lost by wasting my energy on something I don’t want to. Most people use such specious arguments or faulty logic or glaring manipulations and it’s just so tedious addressing them. I can’t even stand winning, if it’s by using the same tactics. It just makes me sad.

As for Saturn giving me a pass, I have chronic neck problems from a long-ago accident, and have Saturn in the 6th natally. Lately my neck has not been bothering me much. Could be a gift from Saturn. Thanks, big guy.

 
21.
Wowza
Wowza

I relate. And I give crap to people right back.

 
22.
Annalisa
Annalisa

Ha! Judges love us! Once I asked a judge about questions I was being asked, I said, “Do I have to answer that?” and the judge would say “no, you don’t!” and I’d say “thank you, your honor,” and move on! It was great.
Congrats, Elsa! Take um on!

 
23.
Elsa
Elsa

So now I am going to get a new summons sometimes this week and here’s the thing: I am only going to be summoned because the people summoning me are stupid. Seriously. There is not one reason for me to be in that courtroom, outside of the fact there are 3 people who don’t know their job.

What kills me, is I know their job… all three of their jobs and not a lick of education.

I told these people they were in the wrong the day before court. The judge told them IN the court. Now they will repeat their mistake… do the whole thing over again because they can’t figure it out, even though they’ve been told twice and have not a shred of anything to argue otherwise.

I even ask the girl, what do you think you get out of this?

“This is what we have to do.”

“No it isn’t. You make no sense. Think about what you are saying because you make no sense.”

She assures me I am the one mistaken, lists the names of known idiots who agree with her, as I roll my eyes on my end of the phone.

Now do you think, they will re-think this? I can almost guarantee they won’t because the capacity is just not there.

Next, I will try to give them idea, they can think they thought of. I will do this because I am sick of all these court dates but it is obscene, the fact these people have power. It’s like dealing with a vase full of plastic flowers.

I just wonder who hired an inanimate object and put them in charge. Another inanimate object, maybe? In whatever case, it is maddening and here’s the freakish thing…

I met a man a few years ago who told me how this could have all been resolved for about $3… and would have been, 30 years ago. But now it s 2011 and a MILLION dollars have been spent and not one thing accomplished.

 
24.
jerriattricks
jerriattricks

Too true, getting wrangled into a fight in the first place to me is definitely like a ‘losing the war’, and winning a fight type thing. Bleh.

Great story abut the a-holes being out in their place in court, sorry if I sound a tad crass with that, but jeez…were these people raised in a barn?

 
25.
yeshe
yeshe

I am soon to head into court with my landlord. I completely relate with not wanting to fight and trying to make things a win-win for both parties. People also see me as a “nice little girl” that can be intimidated. I have been begging the landlord to address several issues since I moved in 6 months ago. Nothing happens until rent is withheld and he doesn’t get his money. Then he suddenly has the time to start eviction proceedings, harass me with threatening phonecalls and illegally enter the house without knocking or prior notification, and on top of it, he is an attorney!Now I am hiring an attorney, when I offered to move out, forego my security deposit and he could take possesion of the house to rent it out. I hate having to fight for something that is obvious but the other parties’ pride and ego issues keep them from letting go.

 
26.
Elsa
Elsa

Okay, everyone! Apparently someone learned something because I was not sent a summons, but instead I got notice it would not be necessary that I come to court next week.
:)

 
27.
CP Griffin
CP Griffin

hooray and halleluia
Glad to hear it. Not only is it nice to see you catch a break, it’s so nice to see the occasional ‘win’ for common sense finally kicking in. :)

 


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