Mixed Messages, Gaslighting, Manipulation… Or A Cowlick In His Psychology”

December 31st, 2010 @ 11:25 am by Elsa

Astrology in real life

In some cases I work with a client over a number of months or years. In these cases, I get to know the circumstances of their lives to a deeper degree; I better understand their character and they character of the people in their lives.

For example someone may contact me, enraged with their husband but time proves he’s actually a good man and there’s been some mis-communication or something.  Over the months the person may become upset with their husband again and again because it is a pattern in the relationship but I can tell by his responses that shared with me that the woman is dealing with a man who loves her and so the relationship is sustained and things improve. Occasionally I am presented with a true conundrum, like yesterday.

I try to parse data for clients. I know they are upset and I know what this is like because I get upset myself at times and need this service too. Basically I want to tell the story and have someone tell me what they heard in my story.

To do this, I listen very carefully so I can give an objective opinion but I also listen in-between the lines. For example if the man is saying one thing, doing another, I have to point this out to the client and when I do, I’d better be right. I can’t just say something like that, I have to give evidence. I have to pull the info from their info and show it to them because if I can do this, we are likely to be getting somewhere.

Now I am sorry for that long preamble but what I wanted to get to was this: I have been listening to tales of this one man in particular for the better part of a year. He’s very smart, as is the client and hoo-boy, you can never discount that.  You can’t just offer up some platitudes, you’ve got to get the brain to fire to offer feedback and eventually, mine did.

When someone gives you mixed messages and you have an attachment to an outcome, it can be brutal trying to figure out what is going on.  Is the person confused? Are you confused? Is the person deliberately trying to obscure things?  Are you being gaslighted?

I finally feel confident to say in this case, I don’t think it is any of the above. I think the man says one thing and then the other, almost immediately, completely subconsciously. It has to be because every statement he makes undoes the one he just made and the pattern just repeats itself into oblivion.

“I think it’s subconscious,” I said. “You know how a person combs their hair one way and it repeatedly falls back the way it falls naturally?  Like a cowlick. This man has a cowlick in his psychology and we’ve discovered it. It’s not malicious, it just is. He’s going to say one things and then say the other, very reliably. It’s not because he has this intention, it’s because he has this cowlick…”

Whew!

Do you have a cowlick in your psychology?



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19 Responses to “Mixed Messages, Gaslighting, Manipulation… Or A Cowlick In His Psychology””

1.
Lupa
Lupa

I might have a few cowlicks and I know someone who has the particular one you’re describing. It drives me to distraction because I have been a victim of sustained gaslighting.

 
2.
Nalini
Nalini

Definitely. I can’t even begin to say how many times this cowlick has gotten me in trouble! I’m learning to pick up on these subconscious tendencies slowly but surely. It’s nothing short of a relief.

Thank you Elsa. I knew I wasn’t a liar but people, understandably, find that hard to believe when I’m saying things that conflict with the last thing I just said! Argh!

 
3.
CArRiE
CArRiE

I love the way your mind untangled this! It was almost like taking a tour of your thought process… Cool!

 
4.
Demelza
Demelza

That kid in the picture is adorable =)

very cool observation about the psychological cowlick

 
5.
SaDiablo
SaDiablo

This kind of thing drives me to distraction, trying to untangle manipulation from gaslighting from cowlicks. It’s nearly impossible for me.

As for my cowlicks? I’m sure I’ve got ‘em, but not sure what I would call a cowlick is something others would perceive. Like I say I want deep relationships, then run from them ’cause they’re scary. :) Cowlick or not? No clue.

 
6.
Blessed Place
Blessed Place

I may have in some respects, but I’m damn sure the man does. Gemini Venus anyone? And I bet Gemini Moon is similar…

I wonder too if it might come from having a Sun/Moon opposition? I think the Man’s does to some extent. You can wake up in the morning with a completely different person form the one you went to bed with the night before. It’s immensely disconcerting and I can only sympathise with your client. In the end, you get so tired of hearing yourself saying, year in year out “But you said….”

Have you done any astro research on this Elsa, or is it something over which you’ve just had a lightbulb moment?

 
7.
Elsa
Elsa

“Have you done any astro research on this Elsa, or is it something over which you’ve just had a lightbulb moment?”

That is a good question. I don’t know what it is other than focus. This was my attempt to solve a very complicated puzzle. Because I play cards, I look for “tells”. This guy has tells all over the place but they tell this dual story.

 
8.
Jilly
Jilly

ahh the dreaded cowlick.

 
9.
australia
australia

My ex did this! Drove me to distraction. As Blessed Place suggests correctly, my ex had Sun Sag opp moon Gemini…holy moly, extremely contradictory,do and undo in one sentence. Lacks steadfastness, can’t hold them to their word, his words were meaningless and there were plenty of them. Challenging to my Merc in Cap which values sticking to my word with integrity. The Ex enjoyed the freedom to change from moment to moment: don’t fence me in! Cowlick is good, FICKLE is exactly.

 
10.
Blessed Place
Blessed Place

The other thing I suspect of being involved in the man’s case is his Pisces Mars. I do find Pisces tends to ‘swim both ways’. I’m very interested in the astrology of this!

I wouldn’t claim to be totally consistent myself but I don’t think I’m one of those people – under discussion here – who truly is consistent in their inconsistency, and quite sincere when they say two completely incompatible or contradictory things

 
11.
katelyn
katelyn

I do not have it, beeing a taurus. But I think, Geminis and Libras may frequently have it…Is it right?

 
12.
eva
eva

What I think is interesting is whether this shows a strong or weak personality. It’s come to my attention especially during saturn libra that I am *really* manipulative and the fact of the matter is I have a lot of hidden motives. A couple of times I’ve asked myself if I would really trust myself, if I were someone else.

But at least I have motives and I know what they are. What’s up with people who don’t? Who really don’t know what they’re saying and just say whatever or open their mouths and what comes out is exactly what they think you want to hear? It’s alarming to know you’ve been lied to but even more terrifying to deal with someone who doesn’t know *how* to mean what they say.

 
13.
ken
ken

I had a supervisor who gaslighted me for months, trying to make me either quit or go insane. It was one of the most stressful periods in my life.

I had a cowlick like the boy in the photo. I had to keep my hair short like that because if it grew it was totally unmanageable, until I learned to let it grow very long. It’s a good analogy and I think you’re on to something. My hairline has receded a bit now, but it’s still making its influence felt. I think I am more gullible than most and I am an terrible at telling lies and not so good at keeping secrets.

Do teens, my daughter for example, automatically have a cowlick in their personality? They have a lot of conflicts, which you can see even with the Saturn opp. and Jupiter sq. at that age.

 
14.
stellarkonnect
stellarkonnect

I think I have had this. I wish I knew what the horrible transit was but I’m almost positive it was a dark Lillith thing and my Libra in the 12′th. Balance was my issue, and at the time I knew I seemed insane in the world and also to myself. I put it down for want of some justification, to being objective to an extreme detriment. do you think that is a possibility? Also, I wondered how vulnerable I was at the time to ‘mirror’ what other people’s projections were to the point of no boundaries. (I attributed that a possibility in relation to extensive meditation I had been doing without a guide). Not enough grounding…for what its worth. (natal: lacking any earth placements)… Your analogy is remarkable Elsa, you always amaze me.

 
15.
stellarkonnect
stellarkonnect

could it be, once it’s been spoken and heard by one’s own ears that suddenly(like a brain storm) he gets all this peripheral perspective that until he heard himself utter the first thing, something was blocking his awareness so then became immediately gets juxtaposed. ?

 
16.
Laura
Laura

Ah, this sounds like fancy talk for plain ol’ passive agressive behavior to me! Say one thing, do another – make the other person think he/she is going out of their mind. It’s a fun game, I guess, as long as you are not that other person!

 
17.
stellarkonnect
stellarkonnect

Laura and passive aggressive behaviour.

I think I know what you are thinking of, and wonder if passive aggressive would be without the element of conscious or sub-conscious awareness may make the difference. (?) What you said reminded me of something I once heard in In Al-Anon and AA, with the concious ‘intention’, is that referred to as ‘crazy-making’? ‘Deliberate’ sabotaging of others.

 
18.
stellarkonnect
stellarkonnect

…for attention-getting. I also remembered what Julia Cameron said about people doing it WITH INTENTION to those involved in ‘personal creative process’….. hmmmmm

 
19.
Mokihana
Mokihana

What a way to start a day! Catching up on the articles on ‘gaslighting’ and normals I stopped to comment here, because of the picture. Cowlicks where I come from are called ‘giddy-giddy’ (spelling?) and always came with ‘he’s/she’s trouble’ I have one of those, but never knew it (a cowlick)until my sister-in-law was cutting my hair years ago. She said, “You’ve got two, back here!”

Putting that info and the posts/comments that tag along are great for me. I was raised by ‘gaslighters’ but never knew to call them that. Even now, to put it here I feel the ‘disloyalty’ bubble up. But…that is good, because untill you know it’s the cowlick and it was set there at the get go, the self and the real me is always spinning tales that go into themselves.

I’ve done lots of work to see and deal with the cowlicks at the back of my head. Rather then appear to ‘be normal’ I’ve learned to simply and diligently get to know the spin of my cowlicks and write my way through them … like white-water rafting. Boy, there’s a lot here. Yes! And, it’s a lot more efficient and go down stream believe it or not.

 


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