My chart is not all that complicated and my life the same.

AstroFix – it’s just very hard to resolve and there are many, many ways this can be the case. People who can’t function without a relationship yet can bear the restriction one brings for example. Security freaks who like to flit would be another.

I think mine’s complicated enough to keep me busy trying to figure it out for years! I’m not going to say my life isn’t complicated, because I know that as soon as I do, Pluto will stir things up and I’m trying to lay low…

Yes, complicated life and I guess my chart is complicated too. Lots of contradictory bits to it.

I’m not sure if I have a complicated chart. I do have a very pronounced stellium and sometimes it feels like my entire life is being affected by transits.

I have some very nice things in my chart but also things that make me fight against myself. In the end I guess I take these complexities to be gifts, because they make me an interesting person.

Absolutely,from day one.I don’t think I’m being overly dramatic?Complicated chart=complicated life.Would I prefer to be a happy simpleton,blissfully unaware?Not neccesarily.I only wish I could undo some of the damage that can’t be undone.I wonder about the possibilities of a placebo effect where astrology could be applied.For example,what if you were told you were about to encounter some crazy-good aspects.when in fact that was not the case.Do you think you might have a less trying experience?
Just thinking out loud.

My Saturn is at 28o 25′ Aquarius. It is in opposition to Jupiter and Mars. It is also square Mercury. That 29th degree thing does happen sometimes. I experience that push and pull in spades. My Jupiter is retrograde. It is something that I feel rather than express. I wish I had a better handle on Saturn.

@Blessed Place.Your life sounds fascinating.That’s not to discount any hardships or inner turmoil.

I wouldn’t say my chart is complicated. It’s compact and nearly everything hits at least three other things, but compared to someone else with a grand cross AND a grand trine AND a t-square, it’s rather easy to parse.

My life isn’t complicated, either, because I’ve structured it that way. I don’t relish drama and complications, so I steer clear as much as I possibly can.

Melody 1971, regarding the placebo effect, “For example,what if you were told you were about to encounter some crazy-good aspects.when in fact that was not the case.Do you think you might have a less trying experience?”

Well, I can tell you that an astrologer did that to me once, saying I’d have crazy-good luck for a while (though I’m positive she wasn’t trying to use a placebo effect – she really believed it was true – obviously, I’m not talking about Elsa or anyone on this site!). And I believed it. Then when it didn’t happen – nay, when the reverse happened, and thing after thing that could only be seen as one terrible fluke after another, a whole string of strikingly bad luck happened – well, I can only tell you that having the positive prediction definitely made me handle that time period much worse than I would have without the ‘good news’. In fact, at first I couldn’t even believe it was happening, and thus didn’t protect myself as I should have. So, uh, no… please don’t try to give me a placebo or sugar-coat anything. Life has a way of intruding on one’s delusions.

Anyway, to the topic at hand: I think my chart’s not super-complicated, but it is (and I am) *quite* subtly complex. A lot of different energies have to be merged, but in my case it seems possible. Others have a hard time understanding all my different aspects, but I don’t. So, to me… my life is relatively simple.

@Sea.I just sent a lengthy response to your comment that did not post.Computer glitch?I really didn’t mean it in that way.Of course it would be highly unethical to purposefully mislead a client.Who wants to hear a load of B.S.?I was thinking more along the lines of positive versus negative thinking,and how a persons expectations might alter or create a new “reality.”

@Melody 1971, I didn’t take anything at all amiss in your speculations on this! It’s a good question, and I’m sure that one’s expectations have a lot to do with so much that happens. …Just thought I’d share the one (accidental!) real-life test-case of the good-news placebo. Doesn’t help if things go south, at least not for me! But It’s also not helpful to worry about future ‘bad’ transits. Many of those have been pretty good for me, actually, so the worry beforehand was completely needless, an absolute waste of energy (for me).

Which reminds me – back to the topic of this thread – that a more complicated chart might in fact make it easier to navigate a lot of difficult transits, because of the range of natural talents and attitudes available in the natal chart, even if they are contradictory…

I’m not sure…I have Leo ascendant that opposes my venus and mars (and sun sun-wise though not degree) and a t-square involving all my outer planets except one (Neptune in Scorpio which, of course,squares my Aqua and Leo! Actually, I guess that’s a t-square too!) And I have an opposition that feels “heavy,” Saturn Pisces opposing Virgo Uranus and Pluto (and squaring Jupiter in Gemini.) I – I guess that’s it? I pretty much like it, at whatever complication level it may be. I do find though that I “crave” Cancerian energy – more and more all the time – to balance out the lone set of Capricorn placements at moon and mercury. They’re lonely all by themselves! A Cancerian stellium with a Libra or two in there – I’d feel complete, LOL!

I do tend to complicate things of my own accord; I hear myself telling people a lot, “You know me, nothing’s ever simple.” My life’s probably been hugely complicated in some ways but I insist on downplaying it for whatever reason.

I’d say I have a pretty complicated chart, and my life has always been an internal struggle, I live in fight or flight mode.

I have a mutable grand cross: Venus in the lovely sign of virgo…sigh, Chiron, Jupiter, Uranus

Also a t-square: 1H scorp Pluto/libra SN, 10H leo Sun/cancer Mercury, 7H aries Moon/NN

Although I’m very lucky in that I don’t have any bad Saturn aspects!

Crazy virgo I can relate I have sag. and pisces. Pluto in Sag. was not kind. Clean sweep. Starting over from scratch with a lot of bumps and bruises and knife wounds and bullet holes.

There’s only 45 boxes on astro? Then why do I have 47 aspects?

*er… I’m sleep-deprived…*