Saturn And Karma: Is Comeuppance Guarenteed?

November 5th, 2010 @ 5:10 pm by Elsa

Astrology in real life

wicked witch wizard of ozIt seems every couple years I ask this question in some form: Does what go around come around?  Is comeuppance guaranteed? Do some people get a pass in life?’

I was prompted to think about this a number of years ago when I attended a local NCGR meeting. The gal presenting made a compelling argument that some (evil) people did get away and get off scot free.  She chocked the “evil” in the chart to three asteroids, Lucifer was one and I forget the others. Here’s that old post, circa 2006: Are Some People Purely Evil?

She also stated her opinion, these individuals would suffer no comeuppance.  She said it was her belief that there were horrific people among us not subject to common laws of nature.

I have been on the fence about this since.  I certainly want to believe that what goes around comes around but have most definitely seen people skate in my life.  Skate, but what do they skate into in the future?  You don’t necessarily know.

I am posting this today due an event that caused me to finally come down on one side of this issue. I do believe at this point that everything comes back to you, for good or ill. There’s nothing free and if you actually get something free, you probably earned it!

Where do you stand on this issue?  Is comeuppance guaranteed?


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30 Responses to “Saturn And Karma: Is Comeuppance Guarenteed?”

1.
eggplant
eggplant

I do not think comeuppance is guaranteed… athough I may change my mind about that in the next 20 years….

I love all your posts today, Elsa. It’s like a 10 course meal on the blog today – something special about today.

 
2.
Dixie
Dixie

It’s a Scorpio moon on the blog, eggplant. :)

 
3.
Jessica
Jessica

-like-

 
4.
TAH
TAH

I believe comeuppance is guaranteed, if not in this life, then the next.
LOVE the picture! :)

 
5.
Peppermint
Peppermint

‘And your little dog too!’

I do believe that what goes around, comes around. I’ve lived long enough to see that what we send out into the Universe comes back to us, sometimes with a precision that’ll take your breath away.

On that note, here’s a huge bouquet of crimson roses for everyone here at Elsa’s – much love!

 
6.
SaDiablo
SaDiablo

I’ve decided to believe that it all comes back eventually. Time seems to bear this out and I have to trust the multitudes that have seen it. :)

 
7.
Jilly
Jilly

I believe as peppermint does.

Asteroid Lucifer is # 1930 in the astro.com additional objects. :)

 
8.
Bretagne
Bretagne

whether it comes around or not, the universe does it for a reason, whatever it may be. There is always a bigger picture to every story and the world is our stage and we are the actors, we can put on any face to act out. There is no bad or good, saint or sinner, it is what it is.

 
9.
df
df

I do not know anymore. Isn’t justice blind?

 
10.
amandapm
amandapm

I think comeuppance happens in the natural balance of life, water (and whatever) seeking its own level, equilibrium and non-randomness and all of that. But what a person receives as comeuppance is not necessarily visible to everyone else’s naked eye. Comeuppance can mean someone is haunted – psychically, emotionally, mentally – to the end of her or his days – though no one else may never ever see it, know of it, sense it. I do know of at least one case where this is true; the person in question doesn’t reveal it per se but I hear miniscule, nearly undetectable indicators of it creep out every now and then. It’s there. It will be there forever.

We possess the conscience for a very specific reason though I’m not sure whether that reason will ever be fully established. It’s easy to think, hey, not everyone has one, but it’s true. Everyone does.

 
11.
toomuchpluto
toomuchpluto

no I don’t believe comeuppance is guaranteed. I think its the luck of the draw just like the natal chart placements.

 
12.
Caroline
Caroline

LOL, yeah seriously, it’s like Christmas on this blog today. Yes, I would like to believe that comeuppance is guaranteed. If at the very least, it will happen in a future life if not this one. I just don’t think the laws of the universe operate in such a way that one reaction would not cause an equal and opposite reaction.

 
13.
curious wanderer
curious wanderer

All things will be balanced in the end.

That being said, I don’t think everyone gets their just desserts for their actions in the same lifetime they committed them. This goes for both good and evil.

If karma did work within a single lifetime, I think the current world would not be so unbalanced. People would know, consciously or unconsciously, that what they did would come back to them, and most would be able to choose more wisely.

 
14.
Caroline
Caroline

@curious wanderer “All things will be balanced in the end.” I think this is very astute. It really speaks to the theme of Saturn in Libra. As above, so below. What goes up, must come down.

 
15.
jenfullmoon
jenfullmoon

I’m still waiting on some assholes to get it. Still.

 
16.
McKenna
McKenna

Hate to say it but some people skate. I’ve fought that idea because it’s not fair, but my God it happens =(

 
17.
Sarisa
Sarisa

I definitely believe it is guaranteed.. BUT.. it may be in a future life that it occurs. A lot of it is tied up in the “lessons” we have for this lifetime and future lives. You may not have it coming back to you in this lifetime but it may come back in a future life directly toward you or someone you love.

 
18.
Sarisa
Sarisa

curious wanderer -perfectly stated

 
19.
ashley
ashley

I think it is guaranteed that you get what you give in one way or another even though it may not be apparent to those around you. I think karma is more about how you feel and not actually what happens to you. Like the people that seem like they have everything and no regard for anyone else – I bet they don’t sleep good at night and never feel satisfied or something.

 
20.
Elsa
Elsa

Welcome, ashley. :)

 
21.
Rachael
Rachael

I believe that the good that we do comes back to us. But the evil that we do? No.

 
22.
jana
jana

Yes, I believe we are here to meet ourselves in action. My thoughts, actions, and intentions are me. I cannot escape myself.

 
23.
Read_em_and_weep
Read_em_and_weep

Those Karma Gods are slow to act at times, I’ve noticed. But when I have witnessed instant karma, it’s been such a delicious experience. I think we create our lives and bring in our lessons and rewards… No one else can possibly be responsible for us except ourselves…

 
24.
iathina85
iathina85

I think some people get away with sooo much shit…its unbelivable.I dont think everything balances. Its impossible( atleast in my mind).
I wanna know those asteroids!! Check if I am evil:)

 
25.
Tam
Tam

My position is that you pay for harm you have caused at some point in eternity.

I’ve seen psychos that there is really not anything you could come up with that they would process the punishment in the same way that the harm was inflicted.

 
26.
seraphine
seraphine

i think it only makes sense that not all karma acts instantly in one life time. If we saw the consequences of our actions instantly in a life, and if this was common certain knowledge, everyone will try to act good not because they are well-intended, nice people inside, but because they look out for their self interests. I think the only way to really test a person is to give them the choice to act in an unselfish, non-egoistic way without making them know the rewards will be soon. This way you really test a person’s soul development and choice of good in an non-egoistic manner.

So I believe things come in different life times for this reason. But you can still sometimes see instant karma or small manifestations so that you dont loose hope instantly.

I see this in my life all the time. There are some things i have longed for all my life to have and tried to deserve it but i guess timing is not right or i am not ready so i dont see these wishes coming true quickly. but then i see small things, small wishes being manifested quickly as if like small rewards when i am in a giving compassionate mood.
For instance, last week i was watching a tv show with some elders, and i wondered how nice it would be to spend sometime and help some elderly (my own grandma was a very difficult person so i never tasted the compassion of an elder person). so in a couple of days, i came across an opportunity to teach internet to a lovely old lady. The experience really made both of us happy, we got along so well. and the same day i went to a shop where i found everything i was wishing to find and felt happy about it. I was also thinking of buying a fish tank but decided not to, thinking i cant look after it, then i ended up buying a 3d poster of an aquarium :) and only realized much later that this is a funny manifestation of what i wanted.

I also witnessed bigger karma works. I had a very arrogant student in my class once, who gave me unfairly bad teacher evaluation. A few months later, he needed a reference letter for job applications and there was not lecturer around but me. But i took the highway and still gave him a good letter.
Another story, when i was in undergrad, i had a roommate, who was renting a room in the house my parents owned. she was all nice to me from outside, and she was noisy, messy and brought many guests, and i never said any negative thing to her. Then i heard her telling someone bad things about the house and that she doesnt like staying there. A few years later i met her, and she was telling me how unlucky she had been when she moved out, couldnt find a nice house to share with a nice roommate, and her stay with me was the best time she had during undergrad. So some people appreciate you much later, after hurting you unfairly.
anyways, to sum up, i think things come back, but generally when you are not expecting it, and maybe not in a single life.

 
27.
abluelily
abluelily

Yes I do believe karma positive and negative is guarenteed and welcome mine :)

 
28.
mmarianna
mmarianna

Yes I believe is guaranteed. Everything comes around at the end (sometimes with different form / disguised).

Good deeds towards others- attract- good deeds coming to you.
(i.e I went at a store and the guy gave me 5 pounds more than he should have. I went back in without a thought and gave them back to him.
Few months later, I was walking and the travel card(expensive) fell off my pocket.A woman came running after me to give it back to me.

I feel the same way about bad deeds. If someone steals, it doesnt mean that other people will steal that guy’s house. It could come with a different form, i.e lose somehing he holds dear or emotional guilt.. or a second chance which he will chose not to do it again.

 
29.
eris
eris

the soul (of the self, of the universe?) is not fooled.
forever is a long time.

so, well, our actions create us, and create our karma, so to speak, by making us what we are, and how the universe reflects itself back at us. so, i’m thinking, yeah, karma will get ya’. eventually.

 
30.
notch
notch

I don’t think evil they are. Maybe spoiled, because they have been allowed to get away with it. Maybe it’s their journey and they choose to teach the negative way. That’s a problem for another lifetime. It’s called abuse of power. And it’s a nasty one to have to be submitted to in any lifetime.

I felt it around my chiron return. Non astro enthusiasts tend to say “everything changes at 50″. If I worked hard, did my job, I would be okay. It always worked that way. I was entitled to do my best and not be persecuted. But then it became boss’s doing everything in their power to prevent me from doing my job because their political vollying was more important than company success. I was no longer entitled to promote company success in the world of finance. So I am changing fields and the way I work.

 


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