“Look at this composite chart between me and this dude.”

“I’m not at my computer.”

“Oh… … …”

“Dammit, ok, hold on…”

I am reticent to get up and check out the chart between my dear friend and the young man she affectionately refers to as “this dude.” I am not busy, I’m not that tired, it’s just… we’ve done this a thousand times.  And out of that thousand (conservative estimate) times, only one has resulted in what could be considered an actual relationship.  So please excuse me if a point one percent return on investment doesn’t sound appealing to me. But she’s my friend (I mean that in the archaic sense of someone I spend time with in real life and whose company I value as opposed to the manager of an avatar that is networked with an avatar that I manage.) So, I do it.

“Do you see it?”

“Uh-huh.”

“Isn’t that cool?”

“I guess, I’m not really into composites.”

The composite chart contains a grand air trine.  Woopdie-freaking-doo.  This is what she wanted me to see. I take my glasses off and rub my eyes.  I ask her to tell me more about “this dude.” Because that’s what this is really about.  She wants an audience for her obsession.  Again, she’s my friend, so I oblige.

She met him a week ago.  There was drinking involved.  He’s cute but short…blah, blah, blah.  He’s not really talking to her right now…

“WHAT!?”

I put the “what” in there as a rhetorical device because I actually know exactly what she is going to say, but you dear reader maybe weren’t expecting her to say that he isn’t talking to her so,… “WHAT?! HOW CAN THIS BE?!”

She suddenly got mealy mouthed and said that maybe she might have texted him too much.  She thinks he might not be into texting because he sent her an angry text that said “Stop F#*%ing Txtng Me!!!11″

I saw this coming a mile away because she has repeatedly alienated guys with her oblivious overtexting. She wants to know if I think it will work out. At the risk of sounding like I spend to much time on the internet…facepalm!

She’s got Retrograde Venus and Retrograde Mercury in the 12th house.  Nobody freak out now.  I’m not saying that people with these placements are doomed to have bad relationships or poor communication skills.  Simmer down now! What I’m saying is that for her, this manifests as facing the wall, as far as communicating with her potential suitors is concerned.

Anything in the 12th house has the potential to be a real blind spot if you aren’t looking for it.  It’s where planets go to get away (be ignored.)  Add retrograde motion which tends to turn the attention inward and what do you get… well if you’re not careful, it’s the wall.

See, her Venus and Mercury are concerned with operating in her parameters according to her fantasy construct of “reality” and will happily do this unless consciously trained to interact with the outside.  In the 12th house, they are mostly unsupervised so they don’t get the training that they need if she wants to play well with others. P.S. They’re in Scorpio so this is where the obsessive vibe comes in.

These placements are actually a boon for her professionally.  She’s an imaginative designer who mostly works alone late at night.  And really there’s nothing wrong with obsessing over a guy you just met for the fun of it.  Its when you forget that its fantasy and make yourself vulnerable to hurt over something that was never really anything to begin with that you need to check yourself.

Also for those of you are equally oblivious, here’s a little tip brought to you by Saturn in Libra:

Text once.
Wait for a reply.
THEN text back.
Do NOT send more than 8 texts in a row to someone who has yet to respond.  It’s bad form.

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16 Responses to “Retrograde Venus plus Retrograde Mercury in the 12th House equals “Stop Texting Me!””

1.
papaver
papaver

“… brought to you by Saturn in Libra”

Beautiful post, in so very many ways, Nota.

On a different front, yet I think it applies – where is Vesta in her chart, and in yours, if you choose to share? Whether you do or not, thanks for writing this post, connecting astrology and real real-life.

:-)
Poppy

 
2.
amandapm
amandapm

Wow! Great story, outstanding explanation of what the 12th house placements mean (“It’s where planets go to get away” – brilliant!) Again, I think I’m finally starting to get these concepts. I’m still a little skeered of the picture after, oh, more than a dozen years. But it’s very effective!

 
3.
jana
jana

How about having natural house ruler in the 12th?
I have read that it is strong here. So is it strong and blind? Any thoughts on how this would manifest is appreciated.

 
4.
Shannon
Shannon

Do NOT send more than 8 texts in a row to someone who has yet to respond. It’s bad form.

EEP! Even I would be put aback by that!

 
5.
CocoPeaches
CocoPeaches

I have natal Mars conjunct Chiron in my Gemini 12th house.

I’m always undermining myself, skillfully, and for the sake of some kind of healing process for a wound with which I was born. Dentulous love.

I fight with love, and love with a strong jaw bite… sometimes with waves of excessive text messaging :-P oops!

 
6.
iathina85
iathina85

hahaha hilarious!! And great advice!!

 
7.
CArRiE
CArRiE

*facepalm* hahaha! Great post Nota!

 
8.
Dixie
Dixie

lovely story of astrology in action, and with practical advice, no less. haha!

Thanks, Nota! :)

 
9.
chrispito
chrispito

haha! I’d flip out if I were that guy. flip. OUT.

 
10.
Sonia
Sonia

haha, I have Neptune in Scorpio in the 12th (square my Moon).. know exactly what you’re talking about.. the wall..

 
11.
orangie
orangie

I think two texts in a row is too many in an early dating situation. From me, anyway. From a guy I like, text away. :)

 
12.
annonymous
annonymous

Text once then wait for a reply.
Ain’t that the truth! LOL!

Thanks Nota,

Be Blessed!!

 
13.
Sabina
Sabina

All very well: heard story on CBC (canadian broadcasting corp – radio) today about death of youngun in carcrash – apparently she had been stopped by coppers before – while txtng – and said, WTF, I was just txtng. Outlawed – txtng, thatis – a yearago, but the younguns just won’t quit, and fines outtasite.
Otherwise, aside from the fella pissing in the corner, that’s one finelooking stone basement in the picture.

 
14.
Dina
Dina

Thank you for that, I have a tendency to overcall, overtalk, and overshare (Moon/Mercury opposition Neptune and few Saturn aspects) so I often don’t know what normal people do with regards to social cues in pretty much all situations. This has been a problem my entire life. (Mercury quincunx Saturn? I don’t know how it shows in the chart).

 
15.
australia
australia

I hope your friend did stop texting when told to?

The other day my friend was texting me all the movies on tv that day, while I was at work. Ugh!
I replied “no time for tv today, am working” and yet more texts steamed in, about 8 more. Out of sheer frustration, I texted “F*$# off, no more texts” he still replied again! saying “I thought we were friends”. Oh hell. He wasn’t hearing me and didn’t respect my boundaries:(
Textual abuse

 
16.
australia
australia

Not sure if he has any 12 H planets, but I do know for sure he has a Pisces moon, and very likely was drinking in the middle of the day.

 


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