Astrology, Legacy and the 8th House: The Sins Of The Father…
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Do you believe that the sins of the father are visited upon the son?
And do you have planets in the 8th house? What do you Scorpio Suns think?
30 Responses to “Astrology, Legacy and the 8th House: The Sins Of The Father…”
No, I think everybody has to pay for their own sins and only those. Mercury, Uranus, and Venus in Libra plus Pluto in Virgo in the 8th house.
Only to the degree that a person inherits a weakness or disease. I believe we are untimately responsible for our own lives, actions and responses and that’s why we are endowed with the ability to learn and adapt. To blame your problems on inherited “sins” is copping out and thus refusing to grow in the direction life is pushing you with that particular problem. My first reponse to something going wrong in my life is to figure out what the lesson is and internalize it ASAP so I don’t have to go there again.
I have known people who came from wonderful healthy families who turned out terribly and people from horrible families that are the salt of the earth. The common denominator I see is people who turn out well accept responsibility for themselves and use the lessons to learn and grow while the ones who turn out badly usually blame other people or circumstances for their “bad luck” and refuse to accept personal responsibility.
My eighth house is ruled by Sagittarius but is split almost equally between Sag and Capricorn. It contains on planet, Jupiter (retrograde).
Yes I do. and no I don’t. I think that each child pays for their parents mistakes until they realize that it is a cycle in the family and then if they work at it they can change it. I know I am in my family…Ill see if it works for my kids as well.
I believe they are. Its up to the next generation to change it.
I dont have any planets in the 8th house, 8th house falls in leo. But my son has planets in sun, venus and mercury in the 8th house.
Yes, I definitely think so. I also think some beings have the opportunity to transcend the sins of the father, and that it is easier for some beings to do this than others…
There are multiple generations of four sisters on my mother’s side, and I am part of one. I am the only sister without an 8th house Moon, which I am always wondering what means.
I have no natal planets in my Pisces 8th house, but Transiting Mars and Transiting Uranus will be conjunct there at the last of the spring, and I am skeered!
Yes, definitely. And redemption from those sins carries on to heal future generations. For good or bad, legacies are passed from one generation to the next.
Scorpio moon and ascendant, Cancer Venus in the 8th.
No, I don’t think so. I am deeply linked to my parents, but on a deeper level than their and my actions. What they do, they do, what I do, I do. I feel more responsible for (attempting to) right the actions of previous generations, than on a family level. Moon in aquarius in 8th
We may inherit juju/legacies from our families, but how I deal with it in this lifetime is my doing and my contribution to possible futures as well 
.
I think it’s a matter of choice. Yes, we can be deeply affected by the lives of our parents, but just like any other form of data that enters our lives, it’s what we do with the knowledge that makes our existence unique and ours. You can continue the cycle, tweak it, or break it completely.
I have an 8th House Taurus Sun/Chiron conjunction. I don’t know what that means exactly.
I think the ‘sins of the father’ is that which causes affliction in the sons that must be resolved by the new generation in order to live a fulfilled life. The most blatant examples of this IMO is child abuse, addiction or an absentee father. Now a son must resolved those sins of the father in his own life to be liberated from them.
Yes, and it is shown in the child’s chart and synastry with the parent.
i have an 8th house moon. 
i have 8th house sun and venus and yes i think the sins of the father definitely visit in the 8th house. my fathers absence/lack of attention impacted my self esteem. inorder to get his attention i got praise /succeess hungry which only backfired…. now i can see how much they r his baggage… but im too deep in it to not be what he expected me to be.
but i shouldnt blame my father , ill blame my birth chart
What’s crazy is that today I learned I am not exempt of embarrassing situations, and I can’t blame all of my life on dysfunctional family members who I generated from. I will always be in embarrassing situations got to laugh and live.
Famous grim poem about this
Philip Larkin – This Be The Verse
They fuck you up, your mum and dad.
They may not mean to, but they do.
They fill you with the faults they had
And add some extra, just for you.
But they were fucked up in their turn
By fools in old-style hats and coats,
Who half the time were soppy-stern
And half at one another’s throats.
Man hands on misery to man.
It deepens like a coastal shelf.
Get out as early as you can,
And don’t have any kids yourself.
”Yes, definitely. And redemption from those sins carries on to heal future generations. For good or bad, legacies are passed from one generation to the next”
I agree with this Lupa!!
I have SN Libra 8th house,
anddd Pluto Scrpio in (8th house too)
I have Libra. I’m conflicted. I don’t think it’s necessary, but I certainly think that some people don’t know any better than the way they were raised.
I have Sun, Mars and Venus in the 8th.
I love the poem, Jilly!
I believe that we inherit certain traits from our parents and ancestors, positive and negative, including creative talents, and the dysfunction is passed down generation to generation, until a particular generation (it could be one person), decides enough, already, and takes on the “hero’s journey” to heal the wound. I decided not to have children, but love them.
If you believe in the Greek tragedy of the House of Atreus, it is a good example of a legacy of child abuse, murder, and hubris that began with Tantalus, who held the favor of the gods, but killed his son Pelops, and attempted to feed him to the gods. The curse of child abuse and hubris followed Orestes, who after killing his mother, and her lover for murdering Agamemnon was haunted for many years by the Furies, until he came to realize that he had to end the cycle of hubris.
Therefore, he pleaded to Athena. No descendent of Atreus had ever done so noble an act, and the curse was lifted, not only upon Orestes, but also future descendants. Thus, Orestes’ humility and conscious realization ended the curse of the House of Atreus.
The myth is a very interesting read.
I am the one in my generation, who has chosen to become conscious in this lifetime. This way, I don’t have to pass on the eternal legacy of “fuck up.”
Yes but perhaps to a lesser degree. Mars and Jupiter in Taurus in the 8th.
Firsty,I don’t believe in “sins”.Not in a traditional religious sense anyway.But i do think genetic traits can be passed down generationally thru DNA and such.A couple of examples would be alcoholism,and a tendency to suffer with mental illnes.I also think if you come from a family who has not sought out higher education,I think you’d be more inclined to follow in that same pattern.of course we all have free will.so we can choose our own paths.provided we haven’t been so horribly damaged by extreme neglect and/or abuse.you still have the option of being a good person.unless that abuse creates a psychopath.I’m not sure if they can decide to be “good” if they are totally lacking in symathy/empathy.I have Venus in the 8th house and alot of pluto.
Sins of the father passed to the son? Not automatically, is my answer.
The only thing I have in the 8th is the Part of Fortune, in Taurus.
also, i’m a libra scorpio cups with saturn conjunct sun, and venus
IT’s so funny this topic comes up. I feel this phrase really gets to the heart of venus retrograde in scorpio.
Venus represents relationships – love, whether romantic, friendly or familial, as well as business relationships and friendships of all kinds. The Venus retrograde period in Scorpio has shown me how much each of the people in my life take on my dark side, and how i take on theirs.
Many of my relationships are with people older than me. Friends, mentors, lovers, and of course older family members. While i looked to them for guidance and direction, venus retrograde is showing me how following their direction can actually lead me to take on their mistakes (karma might be another word for it, as I’ve studied and emulated their way of thinking and acting).
I think the sins of the father are visited on the son because we can’t help but emulate imperfect role models. And in an alchemical reaction I can’t quite work the math out on, I feel these kinks in human nature have to be worked out one way or another, and are passed on, from generation to generation, until they are. Until they are worked out. Until the world may be as one.
It could be, very interesting indeed.
l did wonder sometime.
My dad and l both have chiron in the 8th house. He was scorpio sun, marcury venus, mars.
My south node aries in the 8th
scorpio moon/uranus, venus and mars in the 8th, pluto trine sun…
l have to resolve unresolved things…it’s just a feeling…l also feel l inherited his depth. l did feel conected with him.
oanney in love
“Sins of the father” is about as valid as describing a glass of water as half empty. Interpret that however you want.
I don’t know if I fully understand.
My brother was 11 when my dad passed and he is nothing like him mentally. There is no signs of any inherited virtues or sins. Temper , mood or nerve issues don’t exist in my brother . My brother is very opposite my dad…and through my mom ,who knew my fathers father tells me he was also very opposite of my dad. But my brother was taken good care of by my cancer uncle after dad died and it may have had a huge inpact on my brother. ALSO my brother is leo sun , sag moon
Stellium in my Eight (Sun, Mercury, Venus, Mars) Capricorn.
I would say NO. At least it has not been my experience.
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The sins of the father, sure, but also the blessings of the father. I’ve got a packed 8th house. (I’m gleeful about actually knowing this now. Hee! Learning is so much fun!) Mercury, Mars, Pluto, and Uranus are all in the 8th house, which happens to be Libra. My Sun sign is also Libra, but it’s in the 7th house.
So, yes, I guess I see it as a balanced thing. Sins of the father are definitely visited upon the off-spring–but so are the blessings! And there are usually more blessings than sins. At least, in my life.