Astrology And Morals: Yours, Theirs, Ours, Etc.
Astrology in real life
Working as an astrologer with an international clientele, I run across all kinds of people each week. It’s imperative I show respect and do my best to understand the client’s moral perspective or belief system. I am fortunate that I was raised by mega-Aquarians who taught that people were individuals.
My grandfather, Henry, studied religion and philosophy. He routinely hosted people from all walks of life to discuss their beliefs. I lived next door to him (via a path through the desert) so I had a lot of exposure to this as well.
Rule one was that you never ever attacked another person’s religion or beliefs. As a triple Capricorn with five planets and his north node in Sagittarius, Henry taught us to expand via hearing what others believed or had come to learn in their lifetimes. It’s a Jupiter concept. Every story you hear is a seed.
It’s interesting how my life has wound up. I frequently work with people who abide by the strict moral law of their culture or religion. I just as frequently work with people who reject all moral law and I work with every shade, between the extremes.
Do you live my some moral code? Where are your beliefs rooted?
21 Responses to “Astrology And Morals: Yours, Theirs, Ours, Etc.”
Yes–to be kind and to take responsibility when you hurt someone else. I got it from my parents, for sure.
They really wanted me to abide by a religious moral code but the trouble was the religion did not sink in.
I have a keen interest in understanding other religions and this interest has served me well in terms of broadening my horizons (Jupiter/Neptune, Saggie ASC).
I kind of can’t get this to gel in my mind. “People are individuals.” Maybe because I’m so damn Cardinal. Somehow something akin to this sentiment like “because people and cultures are individual, truth and morality are relative” and therefore bleeding into moral relativism, postmodernism, ideas that negate the possibility of finding truth and rationality, and pretty much everything I hate. My mom is an Aquarian, but sometimes “to each his own” sounds a lot like “therefore you cannot communicate ideas about marriage, even water conservation, to someone from Israel because there is nothing universal about human experience.” Then again, my vehement disgust with Continental philosophy was a thing that started in college. I don’t know if my having Saturn in Sagittarius and being fundamentally conservative, or Sun opposition Uranus plays into this. Maybe I’m projecting radicalism on proponents of cyborg theory and various conceptual ideas, maybe I’m the radical one. Hah.
I have something like this tattooed on my arm. I’m quite serious about leaving people to be themselves and make their own choices. (I disagree that you can’t communicate about them, but I would.)
My moral code beyond that is rooted in my family beliefs, surprisingly. Take the religion out of it, and we agree on a lot. Basically, the code is: 1. take responsibility for yourself and 2. don’t be an asshole. *chuckle*
Yes!
It’s hard for me to imagine how people live without a “moral code” – what do they have to help steer them?
That’s not a value judgement – I am curious to know how people get along without that, since it is such an anchor for me it is hard to picture it.
Cap’n Virgo must be influencing my metaphors today with all his ship stuff haha.
Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of people live without consciously examining the things that are most important to them. They trip along in life and if a moral situation comes their way, they act accordingly.
(I don’t understand, why if I have so much Jupiter, am I so freaking conservative and unbending about my beliefs. I may have the Midheaven in Sagittarius, then again, no matter how you turn it, it is tightly conjunct Saturn).
As usual, you’ve struck a vein, Elsa, but whether it’s gold or blood, I don’t know.
Dina’s initial remarks struck home with me, particularly the idea of mmoral relativism. I mean, what if someone else’s ‘values’ say it’s okay to do something I believe is completely and morally repugnant, if not downright wrong? I am very uncomfortable with postmodern notions of tolerance which dictate that we not interfere with anyone else’s right to do what they want aka believe is right. Examples might include child abuse, clitorectomies, religious polygamy – you get the idea.
On the other hand, I cannot judge something like human cannibalism as occurred in the Andes plane crash situation years ago, because despite my own thoughts/principles, I have never been in such a plight and therfore cannot know for certain what my actions or reactions might be. I may think I know but….
A very interesting topic for Saturn in Libra and all this talk about brother/sister/us and them hood.
PS What’s with all the guys pix of them standing on their arms upsidedown in dicey situations?!
I love you, Reckless, just the way you are!
Thank you. Doesn’t he look like a triple Capricorn with a large stellium in Sagittarius? He broke his leg, twice doing that and had to limp up mountains for the rest of his life – climbing his favorite 127 times into his 80′s.
it’s my opinion (having studied post modernism) that we are now POST post modernism:)
(Chrispito – or po-po mo as I like to call it!)
Well, I’m almost all Aqua and Capricorn in my personal planets and my mom’s a Sag with Aqua Mars so what you’re expressing here, Elsa, largely speaks to my natural POV. Probably yet another reason why I really like it here – the tone you set speaks to the way I process the world and all of us in it.
I too can be a bit of a mind over matter(horn?)type. (Methinks I just made a triple – if you count the goat – pun! In honour of your nonno then!)
I’ve got Mars conjunct NN in Cappie in the 4th, coming on to Saturn conjunction about the time of Saturn return in 2012!
(What a handsome and wellmade man, BTW! Seen a coupla yer family pix: no wonder you’re so beautiful.)
chrispito,
Fine point taken: took me ages just to figure out ‘modern’ not coeval to my generation; as to post and later iterations, I certainly leave it to others to define.
‘Rule one was that you never ever attacked another person’s religion or beliefs.’
That’s mine too.
As to where that’s rooted – I have Sag Venus in the 3rd, aspecting Jupiter Pisces. I was also raised in a place where people killed each other over religion. So. That’s it really.
I’ve had the feeling that my values are anachronistic in this time period, however, I’m comfortable with them. That said, my English grandmother said to me at age 8, “don’t judge other people because you never know when you’ll be standing in their shoes.” I found that to be very helpful. A lot of times one’s value system has much to do with how we set boundaries, how others might transgress them. That’s the part that upsets us. Pulling away temporarily or for a lifetime sometimes is the only solution when another person has crossed that line.
Awesome, chrispito 
(Where are we? Do you think we’re in a time of more practicality and “sincerity” as opposed to irony? Or how are we post postmodernism? Was postmodernism a Pluto in Sagittarius thing?)
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What a gift you received from your Grandfather! It literally hurts my heart (and gut) when I hear people criticize or judge others’ beliefs. To learn it’s not our place (or right) to do so is a lesson that many people never learn. It’s one reason I keep my belief system to myself, it’s too precious to be examined by unloving eyes.