Venus Square Neptune Gets Mysteriously FAT – Jeez! Could Have Fooled Me!

September 30th, 2010 @ 5:26 pm by Elsa

Astrology in Real Life…

may not be prosperous but at least I'm overweightWeight issues came up in the Colosseum. reminding me of this…

Back when I young and knew the soldier I just ate and ate and ate. Unbeknownst to me (Venus Neptune) I got enormously fat. I had no earthly idea I was overweight. I grew up starving and didn’t even know it was possible to be overweight.

See, I was 17 and all the sudden for the first time in my life food was plentiful so what do you think I did? I ate! I ate and I ate and I ate and I ate.

I suppose I must have been growing all along but the soldier didn’t say anything. I guess he didn’t notice, he didn’t care or knowing him, it was both of those.

If you wonder how this could happen, it was because I wasn’t in the mirror all the time. Matter of fact, we didn’t even own a full length mirror, but then one day I saw myself reflected in a window and boy did I flip! The material was strained on my waitress uniform… the buttons ready to pop right off. Yikes!

What follows is an account of what happened next, which I wrote 2001. It’s full of swearing so skip if you’re easily offended…

chef hatHaving discovered I was 60 pounds overweight, I went to my job at an upscale department store restaurant, stood in the back room and announced to one and all that I was fat. I explained that I was going on a diet and planned to weigh myself on the huge commercial meat scale they had back there in front of God and everyone. The scale was enormous designed to weigh whole sides of beef.

“I won’t let you,” Rich said.

Rich was the Hispanic cook who adored me. He was totally loving and protective of me while being a jerk to everyone else and no one knew why. “It’s my scale and I decide what gets weighed on it,” he said.

“So? What do you mean? You mean I can’t use it?”

“I don’t want you to, Elsa. I do not want you doing that.” Rich was about 27.

“Why not? I can’t use your scale? Why can’t I use your scale?”

I asked him in way that challenged him. I was a cocky 17-year-old and if you’re going to tell me I can’t do something, then you’d better have a reason.

“Why?” he asked, looking exasperated, as if it should be obvious. “Because it’s humiliating, that’s why. It’s a meat scale! You’re a woman, Elsa. You’re a great woman,” he said with his eyes cast downward.

“I know that, Rich. I know I’m a woman and I know I am great but I’m fat! I’m a fat woman! I’m fat!”

“You don’t look that bad,” he said.  I could tell by the look on his face I must have recently really been packing it on so inside I cringed.

“I didn’t say I looked bad! I said I was fat! And crap! I can’t believe none of you told me,” I said, pointing to the buttons straining on my uniform. “Look at this crap! What the fuck? One of you fuckers could have said something, you know. How come no one said anything while I just grow and grow and grow?”

People snickered and I laughed back. “Yeah, I know. Son of a bitch, look at me!” I yelled.

More snickers.

“Elsa, I can’t let you do this,” Rich said, blushing. “That scale is for weighing huge packages of meat. That’s what it’s made for and I don’t want you on it. Especially with people watching. These people,” he added, waving his hand in disgust.  Rich hated everyone but me. Literally, I was his chosen.

“No, it’s okay. A meat scale is what I need, Rich. Look at me! That scale is for weighing huge packages of meat and that’s what I am. I’m a huge package of meat! I need to get rid of some of my meat. See?” I said, going into my cute-sell-you routine that, Rich loved. “It’s perfect, Rich,” I said, sweetly. “Meat… on a meat scale! And I am not going to be humiliated.  What the fuck do you mean, humiliated? So can I do it? Can I use your scale?”

“Why don’t you just weigh yourself at home?”

“Well crap, Rich. If I had a scale at home do you think I’d be this fat and not know it?” I snorted. “Come on! I don’t have a scale at home. I’m poor! Come on, Rich. For Godsakes, I really need to use your scale. You gotta let me. You just have to let me before these buttons pop right the fuck off.”

bread basketHe laughed. “You’re serious? You really want to do this?”

“Obviously, yes! Yes, I’m serious, so can I? We’ll all weigh me every day. See how I’m doing, okay? Come on Rich. Really, this is what I want to do. I’ll lose weight, you guys can help and everyone can clap when I do.” (Venus in Leo )

“If you don’t lose, you’ll be humiliated,” he said.

“Well, I will lose, I will. Are you kidding me?”

One of the other servers said, “Just let her use your scale, and stop being such a prick!”

The other servers hated, Rich. I was the only waitress he did not abuse.

He scowled at her and then waved his hand at me. “Suit yourself. If this is what you want, then do it.” He shook his head and smiled because he couldn’t help himself. “You’re crazy, Elsa. You’re the craziest woman I have ever known. What the hell is the matter with you?”

I smiled smugly. “Okay, then. So will you help me?” I asked him.

“Okay, yes I’ll help you. But you better be serious. Don’t ask me for any food. If you do I won’t give it to you.”

“Deal.”

“Deal.”

On that, we shook hands. One of the other waitresses promised to guard the bread. They had some seriously good bread at this place. It was to die for and I’d know as I ate it all day long…

Blah blah blah, the rest of the story. I lost 63 pounds RAPIDLY and Rich whistled when I came to work. My husband swears I was never overweight for a minute.

“I don’t know what you’re talkin’ about, P,: he says. ::rolls eyes::

The postcard pictured is actually from the era. One of the other waitresses gave it to me and I kept it all these years. :-)

Have you ever had your appearance change when you weren’t looking? Where’s your Neptune?



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27 Responses to “Venus Square Neptune Gets Mysteriously FAT – Jeez! Could Have Fooled Me!”

1.
cj
cj

neptune in the first, I can be fat or skinny or invisible just by projecting what I want you to see

 
2.
jana salerno
jana salerno

Venus sextile Neptune, 1st house Sag Moon

I gain weight just thinking about food.

 
3.
wyrdling
wyrdling

uhm, pregnancy and the aftermath. lactation does crazy stuff to the appetite.
i had pluto and neptune interacting then, too. (extra weight=diabetes=bad/killed my grandpa.) and jupiter crossing my first house for a good chunk of it…

 
4.
Neith
Neith

I’m usually aware when i gain weight but since i seldom get on a scale, it can be a shock when i do. Jupiter transiting my ASC & thru the 1st House here the past couple of years has added the pounds. Like Lupa said in another comment, dieting is a sure way to gain weight for me too! Just thinking about dieting has me heading for food. :-D

 
5.
Piya
Piya

I always notice when I gain weight, but mostly because my clothes tell me. I don’t own a scale and I don’t ever intend to, but Leo is surrounded by mirrors and Leo knows when the body needs some firming up.

However, while I can admit to myself I need more exercise and/or less food, I rarely do anything about it. I have nearly no discipline.

Neptune trine Sun.

 
6.
Drea
Drea

I love food and food loves me. I’m about 30 lbs overweight. (Sun, moon, venus in Cancer. ) But I’m cute and know how to dress for my body so I can get away with it for a bit (Taurus rising ). But not for much longer. I’m starting an unofficial WW meeting at work. I’ve persuaded half the staff to join (Mercury conjunct Jupiter in Leo). The diet starts soon, very very soon (Saturn in Virgo).

 
7.
Korellyn
Korellyn

At some point over the past 3 or 4 years, I apparently became attractive. When I finally realized this due to various people beating me over the head with the fact, I was completely astounded.

I have a lot of stuff in the 12th house… completely oblivious to an awful lot.

 
8.
kashmiri
kashmiri

Hey Drea, good luck with rounding the troops!

People are always telling me I’ve lost weight when in fact I stay exactly the same, give or take a pound. Literally, a pound. It’s a completely false perception…
Although once a friend said “Oh I remember when I met you, back when you were fat!’ Huh?? Never been fat, but it made me laugh. Some say your fat, others say your skinny…who can keep up with a 12th House Neptune?

(I think I’m totally average with an ass as an engine)

 
9.
SaDiablo
SaDiablo

Holy shit! You mean my lack of willpower is likely that Sun-Neptune trine? *smacks forehead* Okay, yeah I read something about not putting forth effort in a cookbook once but it obviously never sank in. *blush* Well, at least I know it’s not quite Mars that’s the problem — with Mars-Venus-Pluto conjunct, I was having trouble seeing where my laziness manifested.
Piya, you’re a godsend! (And another Leo with Sun-Nep trine. Awsum! ;) )

Actually on topic, with the above-mentioned trine and Jupiter rising I’ve got to work my ass off to just be overweight and have been obese for most of my adult life. It’s sad and I hate it (hello, natal Saturn in Virgo!), but I haven’t found the right path yet to keeping my weight down permanently. But I keep trying and that’s enough, someday I’ll find what works for me. :)

 
10.
venusflytrap
venusflytrap

yeah a little bit every winter. i’m always surprised when my summer jeans are a bit snug (guess that’s what winter jeans are for!). no but my senior year of college was the worst. i ended a long term relationship and went out drinking w my friends wed-sun. so yeah, i gained about 15 lbs but i don’t think i realized it until the end of the year. moon conj neptune in the 11th, sag.

 
11.
tomaui
tomaui

saggitarius neptune trine to leo vines (squaring scorpio mars): I used to gain over 20 puonds in less than a month after a break up

 
12.
Shannon
Shannon

No, but how I FEEL about it changes.

Moon/Neptune in 7th house Sadge opposite 1st house Sun/Saturn/Asc in Gemini.

 
13.
eccentricvirgo
eccentricvirgo

Oh Elsa, I love your story, it even made me laugh out loud at parts, just how blunt you were with Rich!

I’ve been skinny my whole life till this past year, suddenly, I’ve somehow grown somewhat of a muffin top. It alarmed me a few weeks ago. My natal Neptune is in 8th, transiting is in 11th, making hard aspects to almost all my natal planets. *sigh* *whine* I don’t want to become fat!

 
14.
annonymous
annonymous

one day I’m 20 with a full head of hair, and, in the same year, I went bald as a cue ball on a pool table. LOL!

 
15.
curious wanderer
curious wanderer

Awesome story. I don’t think I’ve been oblivious to weight gain since I was 13, and I packed on some pounds due to a medical treatment and my body finally being allowed to enter puberty.

I gained some serious weight at a couple of different points during my 20s, but I also pointedly ignored it. I was tired of being sexually attractive, and my body tried to oblige me.

I’m not allowed to stay there, though. Virgo Saturn conj. Moon in the 1st won’t let me.

 
16.
Elsa
Elsa

This is my old, old writing from 2001, with no editing.

It’s part of this story… my now husband has just left to go home for a month. I was supposed to go with him but stuck him with the $600 airline ticket – he made $212 a month at the time so he was gone on the trip, broken-hearted and getting drunk and passing out in a bath tub at what was supposed to be our engagement party.

His family had offered to put me through school – we were supposed to get married, see? I was from the desert and no one knew anything about me other than there I was.

My husband thought I was 19, because I lied. I was a bartender (besides a waitress, I had 2 jobs and sometimes 3) so no one questioned this, plus I looked 19. It was no stretch.

Anyway, he was out of town and I was dropping weight like crazy. I used to hitchhike when I met him. I’d hitchhiked to town from the time I as about 10 or 11 so thought nothing of it. He vetoed that shit, immediately.

Here’s more of this same story:

~~

“I take two buses home, nights I have off, but when I get there I am lonely. I miss my boyfriend, and I have a lot on my mind. I have just found out that I am obese, but besides that, I can go to college. Someone has actually offered to put me through school, pay all expenses. They are serious. I don’t know what to do, I don’t know who to ask, so I opt for distraction.

The bus is a bother. It is much easier to hitchhike, but a promise is a promise, so I shrug and walk down the road to the closest bar. It is a landmark in the area, but I have never been there.

I order a bottle of Tab for fifty cents and sit at the bar and tell jokes. The bartender becomes enamored and I never spend a dime in there again. I try to tip him, but he returns my money. Instead he extracts a promise that I will come back again and soon.

I’ll do that.

End of the bar sits Darth Vader.

To be continued.

 
17.
Blueststar
Blueststar

Going through a long Neptune oppostion to my Natal Leo Sun in the 12th. Yeah, I’m having weight issues too. I’m eating better, so must be fooling myself with portion sizes and frequencies. Do people oddly try to feed the hunger that hides in a 12th House?

There is a feeling of floating or drifting lately…quite flirtacious for one who usually has things in place (Mercury and Saturn in Virgo Ascendant.)

I want a new direction; but can’t see what it is yet. Time will tell if Neptune blurring my boundaries will bring the creative expression and spiritual insights I long for.

 
18.
Rhiannon112
Rhiannon112

Hello Elsa,

I so enjoy your stories and your style. I have been there done that. However, i still could benefit from droping about 20lbs. and have been to the gym twice this week, also watching my weight. I danced from three years old to 18 and was quite good. i am almsot 5’8″ and was about 116 lbs. now, add multiples of 20 to that. Although i gain weight evenly, i was quite shocked to see the pound packing party over the past 5-6 years. So, i have once again, began to really address the core issues of my slow weight gain, emotional, lack of sleep, diet etc. Thank you, i always find your presentation humerous and very to the point.

Susanna

 
19.
denise
denise

Well, I’m Libra rising w/ neptune in Libra in the 1st house and I just Love Good Food! If I exercise I’m ok….but..if I don’t that 10 lbs just hits my tummy and ass.
My Aquarian husband (he died in 1995) used to say, “Denise you eat like a man” and it’s true.
and it’s time to hit the gym cuz diets just don’t work for me. I love chocolate and pasta and really good bread.
I do notice when I am at my top weight I’m dealing w/ some serious stress.
Can’t afford new clothes so guess I need to deal with it. and lay off the chocolates.

 
20.
Elsa
Elsa

Welcome, Rhiannon112. :)

 
21.
Read_em_and_weep
Read_em_and_weep

Elsa, I’m loving this story!

 
22.
Elsa
Elsa

It’s a blast from the past for sure. I was writing about my husband 2 years before we got in contact. I thought he was dead when I was writing this – absolutely, thought he was dead – no question about this in my mind at all.

He’s never read it. I call him, ‘Top Secret” in the story because he had that clearance. It represents my recollection of him before we got in contact and slowly (over 6 years before we married), found out about each other and how things turned out in our lives.

I don’t know what to make of it. Don’t have the time or the stomach to read through it right now although I do notice my own candor and it startles me some.

 
23.
Stephanie
Stephanie

Neptune conj. ASC. This can definitely happen to me, but it’s far more common that people just see what they want in me all the time, regardless of what I see in myself. And different people can hold radically different ideas of who I am. I never feel like I have control of my presentation of self.

 
24.
Blessed Place
Blessed Place

My weight as an adult has fluctated between 7sty 10lbs and almost 13 stone – I’m about 5ft 3ins tall. It’s gone up a lot in the last 10/15 years, after the ‘change of life’ and now I’m a bit heavier than I was in my teens.

My biggest and fastest weight change was in my amazing year of 1965 when I went off to the middle east and hitchhiked back across europe, with almost no money. When I left I looked almost middle aged – overweight, with ‘rollered’ hair (think The Queen, or Margaret Thatcher) and I dressed like my mother.

For most of the trip I could only afford one meal a day, unless I was treated, and it would be bean soup, usually! I lost about 35 lbs and also grew my hair long, and when I got off the train to visit my parents in Devon on my return, wearing a minidress and with long hair (think Joan Baez) and a deep tan, they stood there saying ‘Typical! She’s missed the train!” – they didn’t recognise me. I had to go up to them and tell them who I was…

I’ve had a few ups and down since then, though most of my adult life I was 8st 3/4lbs. Mostly the changes have been more gradual though. I tend to put on a lot of weight when I’m not in a sexual relationship – it’s comfort eating! 0and lack of exercise… ;^)

 
25.
AriesSun
AriesSun

The only time I had a real fluctuation in weight – when I wasn’t looking – was during a 3 -4 month depression episode…after 1st marriage breakup.

At 5’6″ I weighed around 135 or so – good for a 24 yr old. At the end of the 4 mo. I was 100 lbs, and looking heinous. My mother threatened to take me to the hospital for IV feeding (she hadn’t seen me in a couple of months. No mirror to check weight, and no one told me what I looked like (sunken eyes don’t give a clue??? Sheesh!)

Just one of those times where food couldn’t be swallowed, food tasted like ?, and no appetite…Recovered in 5 months to normal weight.

 
26.
sharon
sharon

I gained some weight in high school, around age 17, got up to about 110 lbs. — for reference, I’m 4’11″ so people were calling me “plump” at the time. A couple of years later my weight slowly went down to 92 lbs. where it stayed until I quit smoking at age 37. Due to really starting to enjoy food (especially President’s Choice Chocolate Fudge Crackle ice cream… yummy!) my weight climbed and by 40 I’d gained close to fifty pounds. It bothered me a lot. Lost it all upon starting a new relationship, but then I hit early menopause and now weigh 122. What bugs me the most is the weight distribution; it’s all in my stomach, and this Leo Rising used to love clothes shopping but now hates it. A lot has happened in the past few years, much to deal with, so the weight issue hasn’t been the biggest priority.

 
27.
Togi
Togi

Stephanie I have that too and you said it perfectly.

 


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