Venus Square Pluto = Potential Astrological Marker For Sexual Abuse

August 23rd, 2010 @ 12:00 pm by Elsa

Astrology real life

This is from a consultation with a gal in regards to her young daughter..

“I am sorry if this stresses you but I do think it’s something you should be aware of.  Venus in Virgo is the quintessential, Persephone figure and the Pluto square can be played out in bad ways. It can also be played out in good ways (she attracts power and I mean BIG power because Jupiter in involved) so I think you get the idea. Don’t let Roman Polanski near your daughter.”

Do you have Venus in aspect to Pluto in your chart? Have you come across power themes in your relationships? Tell us!


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27 Responses to “Venus Square Pluto = Potential Astrological Marker For Sexual Abuse”

1.
Shannon
Shannon

Elsa, this is the best example of what is uniquely wonderful about you – saying the hard shit, knowing it’s gonna be hard to say and harder to hear, and somehow managing to be sensitive about it all. Thank you for pointing that out to her. I know it’s painful, but hopefully giving her the awareness will save future distress. I say this as someone who suffered silently through years of sexual abuse and misconduct because I didn’t feel like I could speak up. It took me years to get untangled from that, and I feel like I missed part of my life because of it.

Venus in early Cancer square Pluto (out of sign) in late Virgo. I likes me some power play, even now. Fortunately I didn’t break completely.

 
2.
Read_em_and_weep
Read_em_and_weep

Venus in Pisces opposite Pluto and Uranus conjunct in Virgo… Power themes, power struggles and power plays have always been a big part of my relationships… I’ve grown weary of the games people play in order to attempt to control me… As if I’m out of control? Shit, I’m one of the most in control people I’ve ever known… I am extremely passionate and have a very strong will but never behave in an out of control fashion… So, what the fuck were those people thinking? I have experienced sexual abuse in the form of being raped – again another form of power play – but have had some tender times with partners as well… The best partner thus far is my hubby… His Pisces Moon and Venus in Aries speak volumes to me…

 
3.
Rachel
Rachel

Yes, Venus in Cancer (in the 12th) square Pluto in Libra (in the the 3rd). Power struggles are def a theme!

 
4.
venusinvirgo
venusinvirgo

Interesting. I just divorced last year and I did feel like my husband had a weird — and uncomfortable — control over my life. Power issues that were very present but under the surface. Every time I’d think of leaving I’d get this weird feeling to “hide all the knives in the kitchen”. I had an irrational fear of him. I don’t have a Venus Pluto connection in my natal chart. But I have Venus in Virgo conjunct my ex’s Pluto. It was very strange and made me feel a bit insane.

 
5.
eva
eva

I have venus in virgo in the eighth house involved in a t-square with jupiter and saturn; pluto and uranus in a loose conjunction in the eighth.

My first email address was persephone@; back before I knew I basically had her chart.

Most of my story was kind of deeply psychological though. I’ve been in some dangerous situations and managed to twist away clean, at least physically; places I ended up out of absolute stupidity. I think it was just dumb luck. Sometimes I think my dad was watching over me.

I know women with hard venus/pluto aspects who were not that lucky.

 
6.
chrispito
chrispito

Venus opposed Pluto. Every single relationship romantic or platonic–this has come up. I have a ton of fear. The roots go deep.

 
7.
Dawn
Dawn

What does Venus in Virgo square Pluto in a man’s chart manifest? I have Pluto in Virgo square Chiron and had abuse situations all my childhood with various people, even with other kids, but didn’t know at the time it was anything to worry about. I guess with Chiron in Aquarius I thought friends can’t hurt me?

 
8.
Elsa
Elsa

Dawn, it is the same. It’s like the cop and the criminal – there is commonality there.

 
9.
jana
jana

I read somewhere that Venus/Pluto was a common aspect among Presidents’ wives.

 
10.
Strawberry Fields
Strawberry Fields

Do you have Venus in aspect to Pluto in your chart? Have you come across power themes in your relationships?

I have Venus and Pluto conjunct in the House of Relationships (7H)… so… power issues are a given in my relationships!

BEING AWARE of this dynamic though (via astrology) has made all the difference in the world.

 
11.
venusinvirgo
venusinvirgo

What if the natal chart aspect is Venus trine Pluto? Would it still be a marker for something abusive? Or in a trine does it soften the experience?

 
12.
Michael
Michael

Should I worry about my daughter Elsa? Yes, NO

 
13.
Elsa
Elsa

Michael, she doesn’t have that aspect.

 
14.
Kelly
Kelly

Yes I have Venus (and Mars) in the 1st House squaring Pluto (and Uranus) in the 9th. The Sun is in the 11th House in Scorpio separated from Pluto by a 2 minute arc. Thanks to Jeremy Neal from Chirotic Journal, I am more conscious of the power struggles that have plagued my life. Metaphorically speaking, he went in like a surgeon to find the patterns I was holding and raise them to my attention. A trained psychotherapist would not have managed to do what Jeremy did for me.

 
15.
Michael
Michael

Thank you Elsa!!! You’re so kind as usual! It’s very comforting to know it! :)

 
16.
goatgirl
goatgirl

does Venus in Scorpio count?

 
17.
eris
eris

it’s not necessarily abuse so much as ending up tossed into other people dirty laundry pretty darn often (mine too. gotta’ learn somewhere.) let’s say i’ve become rather cynical around how most people behave in relationships.
and maybe if i didn’t have saturn playing too i’d enjoy it more. i don’t know.

mine’s an opposition.

 
18.
Libby
Libby

Woah.

Venus (Aqu. H8) square Pluto (Scorp. H5).

Sexual abuse and inappropriate attention was a huge theme ever since puberty started, through high school. I worked *REALLY* hard to get it under wraps.

Still, there are lots of threads that remain untied.

I don’t know if I consciously attract power struggles, but I know that I am attracted to powerful people. My take on it is, if you’re going to learn, why learn from anyone but the best? I am definitely power hungry.

@jana: Yeah, I remember reading that somewhere, too!

What are some of the positive aspects that can come when this square is resolved, or worked through?

 
19.
Libby
Libby

*EDIT*

Venus is also conj. my sun (Aqu.) and Mercury (Cap), all in H8. My IC is in Virgo. I guess there is a whole lot of info going on there; I have no idea how to interpret it.

 
20.
SaDiablo
SaDiablo

Yes and yes.
I can remember an argument I had with the ex once where he quite exasperatedly said, “You see power plays in everything!”
“Yes, I do. Because it’s there even if you don’t want to acknowledge it.” *grins*

Venus conjunct Mars-Pluto in Libra/4.

 
21.
spidermoon
spidermoon

I have Venus in Pisces (2nd) opposite Pluto in my 8th (Virgo). For me it’s been about balancing my own self-worth/worthlessness and power/powerlessness in relationships. I have too often erred on the side of Pisces, not valuing myself enough in 8th house matters (esp. sexual relationships); not that I am promiscuous (despite Scorpio moon!) but that I tend to give my sexual power away and/or not realize that power as something precious. Definitely a lesson driven home for me this year as PLuto conjuncts my ascendant. Yes. This power issue has been a big one for me to understand and integrate — I’m still working on it. I am thankful it is the only opposition in my chart!!!!

 
22.
spidermoon
spidermoon

Forgot to mention: My Venus is conjunct (exactly!!) Chiron in Pisces, so this self-worth has been wounded / is a big wound / has been a big wound for me — It’s as if Pluto is really the guy I need to turn to for any balance on this issue, in order to heal. When I act from my 8th house Pluto, when I feel my worth/power come from the depths, then I heal the wound (or at least don’t make it any worse). Pluto in Virgo in the 8th has been peroxide on my Venus in Pisces conjunct Chiron in the 2nd — hurts, but you know it’s cleansing out the bad stuff. And you WILL heal.

 
23.
Elsa
Elsa

All the variations have the same flavor and are further impacted by other planets that may be involved.

It is not really possible to make strong statements about charts you can’t see. People who want to discuss this in regards to their own chart can post their chart on the boards here:http://boards.elsaelsa.com/

under astrology-based advice and probably get some feedback. :)

 
24.
Amelia
Amelia

I have Venus square Pluto. No sexual abuse but much need to control my own sexuality to the point of abstaining from the whole dance because the dynamic was so out of balance and weird in teen years that it made me feel powerless. Unless you found that one cool guy, it felt too much like being prey to me during those formative years. Sorry, all you cool guys but you weren’t around or interested in me.

I never thought about how the square could help attract powerful people or power itself, but that’s been true for me, not necessarily in sexual relationships but in other ways, and a real positive, so thanks for pointing it out. I also have Jup. conj. Pluto. I have always depended on the kindness of strangers! (I’m pretty sure Blanche Dubois had Venus square Pluto…)

 
25.
Elsa
Elsa

Welcome, Amelia. :)

 
26.
elena
elena

Uh Oh. I have Venus (12th hous, Cap) square to Pluto (singleton, 8th house, Libra). Also, Venus is sextile to Uranus….I have had many powerful men attracted to me. FAIL for all. How to manage this aspect?

 
27.
Elsa
Elsa

Welcome, elena. :)
If you post your chart, along with your question on the boards here: http://boards.elsaelsa.com/ Someone is sure to weigh in. There is a section for astrology-based advice. :)

 


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