Many of you know I really like to figure things out or at least try to. With Mercury in the 9th, I am not apt to ever manage this. I am destined to be a horse after a carrot but anyway I have a current curiosity and I got on the phone to hash it out with someone.
Typically when I have a query, I make the rounds and and solicit the opinions of friends who are a varied group (male/female, gay/straight and various colors). Sometimes this is enough but sometimes I want a larger sample so I bring it to the blog and today here I am.
I want to know about jealous personalities. Not jealous personalities like my own, where if you sniff around my husband I will in you face in 2 seconds. I am talking about people who are jealous of another person’s success, namely my own.
At least once a month someone comes around to let me know of their superiority to me. I’ve got all kinds of shortcomings, I have dog hair on my couch, whatever. It’s widely understood these people are jealous but here’s the part I don’t get.
When I was a kid, I wanted to be Andy Rooney. I am talking about the 70′s and 80′s Andy Rooney, I’ve not seen him in years and have heard he’s gone crazy. That aside when I saw him as a teenager, I just thought he had the dream job of all dream jobs. Are you kidding me? Sit at a desk and pontificate, complain and entertain each week? Heaven.
I started thinking right away how I might get a job like that and you can see I have managed but here is my point:
Never in a million years would I have attacked Andy Rooney, insulted him or tried to diminish him. “I’m better than he is…” I can’t even imagine getting a train of thought like that into my head. What I felt was glad that he was doing it because if he could then I could.
Now my husband, same thing. When he was a 20, they put him on the plane that flew into Iran to rescue the hostages. At this point he collided with Special Forces and he liked what he saw. He wanted to do what they were doing so he came home and started exercising and eating to bulk up (he was a skinny geek back then) and eventually realized his ambition. So here is the question:
I fully understand what goes on inside the head of my husband. What goes on in these other type’s head? If I am so lousy and you are so great why in the world, don’t you go show me up on your own blog? Is it laziness? Lack of true confidence? Is it a mental health issue?
I know that someone out there knows the answer to this so please tell me. In exchange, if anyone wants to know more about what it is like to be this other way, I’ll tell you.
53 Responses to “Jealousy, Andy Rooney and Elsa P”
Not to be too picky- jealousy is what you feel when another person you like might be taken away.
Envy is wanting what someone else has.
I think people envy because it’s so much easier than facing what you have and doing the best you can. So much easier to just look at another person and envy them.
Forgot to mention that I’ve been wondering about the same for years. The only thing I can come up with is that being inspired is not the same as being jealous. Somehow, I can’t correlate negativity with inspiration. Some say that anger is negative, but I disagree with that notion. Because, looking around, I see many reasons for us to be angry, especially wherever I see an injustice.
Negativity can definitely be correlated with jealousy. It is an emotion surrounding a perception or an illusion, or what we think may be *there* (versus the reality of our situation).
I proudly came up with this quote, today:
Please step off my grill and you won’t get charred.
I can’t deal with people’s jealousy anymore or nosy-bodies, and I am not here to compete with anyone. I’ve struggled a great deal, and my life is not an episode of “America’s Got Talent”. So this was my way of expressing my anger and telling others to lay off, I guess.
Thanks for the distinction, beth. I wondered if I had that wrong but was trying to type fast and “jealous” is the term people use when they discuss this with me. “They’re jealous of you…”
I have always thought it strange because my life has been Godawful. It is spectacularly queer from my perspective and I look for a way to understand.
I am looking at this in my life because people envy me consistently and are mean to me because of it. I don’t know exactly why they are that way, because I’m completely not. I’m happy for others!
I work my ass off to become who I want to be and get good, very, very good at what I am interested in. I compete with myself!
Another one I get is people/friends who are angry at me because I don’t have the same hang ups that they have… they want me to be insecure too. I am insecure in my own way, but I have taurus and leo, and I’m pretty secure about somethings, and the Cancer shell isn’t going to let you know even if I’m not!
I dunno why people can’t just be happy for others. When I see someone sucseed, I think, maybe I could do that too…
I really don’t know, but I wish they would stop.
now i’m going to have to correct Beth (sorry, i’ve got virgo.)… according to Websters Unabridged Dictionary one of the definitions of jealous is “resentfully envious”. jealousy can definitely mean that you want what someone else has.
and as for what causes someone to feel that way… i think that comes when they know they can’t do or be whatever it is they’re jealous of. and they’re angry that anyone else can.
I am now recalling my ranting about Andy Rooney… I’d have been 19 or 20 and with Leon (Libra w/ Moon, Venus, Mercury, Saturn in Scorpio).
“Now that is a fuckin’ job. That right there is a job and a half.”
“You want to be an old man?” Leon asked.
“I want to be Andy Rooney! Look at him! Listen to him. I wonder how I can get a job like that.”
“Just keep talkin’,” he said. “I’ve never seen a woman talk so much in my life.”
“You think I can get a job like that?”
“Don’t know but if anyone can, it’s going to be you because your mouth, Elsa. Your mouth…”
“Shut up, Leon,” his wife said, knowing he’d be cutting and I’d get my feelings hurt.
“Yeah, shut up, Leon and deal the fuckin’ cards.” (This was back when you could just talk and no one had a conniption)
“I can’t believe my girlfriend wants to be Andy Rooney,” my boyfriend said, shaking his head.
I didn’t say anything else at that point, I was already brainstorming. 
The way it was explained to me is they have low self-esteem, and in order to feel better they try to tear down the ones they feel are “above” them, to bring them down to an equal, or preferably lower level, so they can feel better about themselves. It’s a sad way to be, but I think it’s kind of useless to waste time on them… there will always be folks like that and if you just ignore them they’ll eventually go away and look for another victim.
More than likely, it is all of the above. If you look at global transits, you will see the planetary positions are close to the seasonal points – sensitive enough to contact the positions of more than half the people on the planet.
Big time world transits. These are historic times, as I’ve been saying for years now.
So, anyone who has interest in astrology, and tries to practice it, will have problems if they have not been consistent over the past years as few have been.
As sensitive as Elsa may be, she is tougher than this, and knows how to handle the jealousy. The problem is that Elsa would prefer to see people rise above those base negative vice, and relate more to their better sides, if only they would.
Jealousy is a sign of a person’s own inferiority, and this must be dealt with by the individual, or, it will consume them as they fall deeper into their own laziness, and incompetence.
No one can “fix” that for a person. We are all born under our own native skies, and therefore, must face whatever transits we have internally.
When not dealt with by individuals, then it is externalized into the outer reality, and it is here where one can openly see the failures of some others when they express jealousy of Elsa.
I am always happy to see Elsa becoming more successful. The more, the better, and why not? As a Capricorn, there’s nothing more I appreciate to witness than the success of a person who has worked very hard to make it happen and achieve.
That is the sign of a true person and a professional astrologer, is it not?
We need more skilled astrologers in the world, not less, so Elsa is performing a special service, as I try to do in my own small way as a mundane astrologer.
As a professional astrologer, I can tell you what Elsa does is NOT easy in the least. It is very time-consuming, and high-energy to work as an astrologer. We know things most people do not, and it is not easy to carry all that knowledge day to day and see the fuck-ups that happen every day of the past, present, and future.
Only the toughest personalities & minds need apply. They must be able to handle long hours, days, weeks, months, and years, and able to survive and thrive the demands of astrological work.
Anyone who is “jealous” of that is not an astrologer, but a “wannabe” and that’s not good enough for professional astrology. Plus, anyone who is “jealous” of Elsa’s success is a child, not an adult.
The fact that Elsa pours her heart out working her own blog and to have some be jealous of this proves (at least to me) that anyone complaining is lazy, and has some kind of odd view of astrology that is outworn and out of touch.
It is time to own up to it, and get off the rag, so to speak, and get yourself up to snuff, or, simply fade away into your own personal obscurity.
You’re lucky you’re dealing with Elsa, she’s too nice, too sweet, and doesn’t want to hurt feelings unless she really has to. A real class act.
If it were me ~ I would end the jealousy the only way a Sun in Capricorn can – with a swift hard stroke of the bottom of my shoe’s heel to crush the jealous roaches.
There simply is no time to play silly emotional drama games with the world transits at hand. These are very important times, and we have enough world “drama” thank you very much. No need for additional little soap operas, yes?
Jealousy is a personal failure to face what is within a person. Every individual is born with their own unique talents & skills, according their nativities.
Elsa is doing her thang, so to speak, and she does it well. Those who are jealous have no clue just how hard it is to keep up with daily transits and manage working it all as Elsa does?
So leave her the fuck alone and get a life.
There are few skilled astrologers in the world, so shitting on those who are working, and putting out content & forecasts means that you’re not just jealous – but stupid, and astrology does not support stupidity. Like I said, this is Star Trek here, not Gilligan’s Island.
Hurting people hurt people, pretty much. Jealousy and insecurity are fast friends.
Actually, Pink, in my experience, if I ignore them the escalate until I can’t ignore them and they become my victim, not the other way around.
It’s sort of like breaking in my house thinking you’re going to be able to rape me. When I empty a gun into you, I guess that’s that.
I’m really not much of a victim, turns out.
Envy is an energy that is neutral until directed. You can use your envy to recognize, “Hey, I want what she’s got,” and go out and make or get your own version of the thing you desire – in that way, it can be healthy. It’s when you’re too damned lazy to do it yourself, when you hate yourself for not doing it yourself, or when you believe that forces have conspired against you to prevent you from having it yourself, that it turns ugly and inwardly or outwardly destructive.
PS, providing my 1st comment shows, I was also an Andy Rooney advocate back in the day
I know someone who describes herself as being pathologically jealous. She wouldn’t hurt anyone in any way and she works on herself, but she will be jealous of anyone younger than her or has anything she “wants.” If anyone gets attention, she may flip out. So actually I take back what I said — she has hurt people, me included, very much. I think it’s a control thing which leads me to think in extreme cases that it’s a mental health thing. She truly believes there is NOT enough and if I have IT, then she can’t have it. Btw, she has Leo south node.
And sometimes what she is jealous of is delusional. Meaning she exaggerates the thing she things the other one has…
Anyone with a light in them, she can feel jealous of.
I have had some pretty miserable shit happen in my life, various losses, so when anyone tries to begrudge me my happiness, I get pretty mad–
Jealousy I think is a severe form of self-centeredness–
and this friend also ALWAYS, and i mean EVERY TIME, tells me the difference between jealousy and envy. Honestly, I don’t give a fuck. I know what I mean — If I use the wrong word, um, it’s okay….Damn virgo moons
OK reposting, sorry if this ends up duplicated, just singing Venus accolades
Well, I have hardly ever seen any posts on this blog to be outright critical of you, Elsa. But, then, I don’t get a chance to read many posts due to time constraints. Maybe you nip some of them in the bud.
I would say that you have a straight forward manner that might come across as acerbic to pansies, or even insulting if you are addressing an issue that some don’t yet recognize may be their own shadow that they are afraid of.
This is in line with the overreaction to Venus Williams lacy outfit today at the French Open. So many nasty comments! (like HIM looking good, vomit in the mouth etc etc.) I had to respond, and I said something like, in short, that this was a disciplined and accomplished WOMAN, and to everyone that was critical, what are THEY accomplishing in their lives, what are their shadows give them the need to be superior and denigrating to someone who puts themselves out there and wins?
I cannot STAND being around people who begrudge other people their happiness. I’m sorry–I don’t give a shit how challenging your life has been, if you exhibit this type of behaviour I am on the fast train to getmeoutofhere’s ville
If a person wants something better for themselves–well, good–that’s a totally human/normal thing, probably why we have electricity and other life conveniences.
Jupiter ruled chart–I like when good things happen to ANYONE. It reaffirms my faith that life is worth living.
LAZY. It is a lazy person who comes along and criticizes the work of others that they themselves have PROVEN unable to do.
Goddamn lazy motherfuckers!
(yeah, no empathy here for the jealous folk, LOL)
mp I’m copying your swearwords, tee hee!
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Funny cuz this gal is always saying how lazy she is -
I second, third or fourth (?) the laziness observation. That’s 100% right. There’s a reason for the saying “jealousy is ugly”. There’s a reason why envy is referred to as the “green-eyed monster”.
I’ve experienced jealousy from others for a good portion of my life. As a kid, as a teen in school, and then as an adult at work. I think it’s because I make life look “easy”.
Life is not easy by any stretch. I just accept it for what it is. I can’t dwell on situations and then allow them to consume me. I’d rather see that silver lining and throw a positive spin into my experiences. It’s just the way I am…
… For example, I’ve worked what many or some would probably consider sh*t jobs. Even now, I clean up dog poop. But I enjoy it because it’s part of my dogcare gig, and I’ve always been one to literally get her hands dirty (whether with paints, cooking oils, soil, etc). I guess you could say I don’t do manicures.
In one of my last jobs, I was thrilled to be folding clothing and merchandising a store and dressing up mannaquins. I also greeted and helped customers and worked at a register. This wasn’t a glamorous career, but I was just happy there, you know? Hardworking, productive, creative, busy and useful and I got a hefty clothing discount to boot 
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One stupid girl who worked there would sort of hang around me. Among other things, she asked me what I was doing there. In a “who do you think you are?” sort of way. It was bizarre at first, but I answered her.
Folks, ask me something, and I will answer you. If you don’t like the answer, you should have thought well before you asked a certain question. It’s how I roll.
Anyway, “working”, I said.
I was.
I later found out that my initiative made her look bad because she wasn’t doing jack sh*t but hanging out in the stockroom and B.S.ing and gossiping about everyone else during her shifts.
So, yeah, I agree with the laziness observation for sure. And like chrispito (::waving::), I do not sympathize/empathize with laziness and/or jealousy.
I was just at a good friend’s house tonight discussing this very topic; she and I are taking a life-affirming, big trip next month. We work hard and have worked hard to make this trip happen. I have told very few people I am going. No one at work wants to hear it; they are jealous beyond all get out. My friend has experienced the same reaction–jealousy. No one, with the exception of my father, my sister, and maybe one other person I can think of, and my friend, has been 100% clearly supportive and jealous-free. WTF? It’s like Theo says–this is not Gilligan’s Island, but Star Trek, and I want to be beamed up with sympatico people. So I’ve been doing my thing and flying under the radar. When the time comes to debut my new plans, I will but until then mum’s the word so I don’t get the evil eye. On a side note: when I was a grocery store cashier as a 17 yr old after school, Andy Rooney came to my line and bought peanuts. That’s it, peanuts. I knew who he was and thought he was cool, too, but my fellow cashiers didn’t get why it was a big deal.
Theo, you rock!
i’ve got encountered a lot of that kind before, elsa. i have to tell myself, thats not gonna change. we will always get shits from people who are jealous or negative, the same thing as we will get jealous with those who are better than us. i get jealous sometimes. human nature.
Beth, I liked how you put that.
Excellence threatens some people, I think, and you are certainly excellent at what you do. As far as your dream of replacing Andy Rooney – well, CBS’s loss in that case is certainly our gain!
hmmm. i always thought that if you envied someone, you coveted what they had, but you didn’t necessarily want to take it from them or anything of that sort. you always hear people saying “oh, i envy you!” and it’s never in a mean or derogatory way.
well, obviously jealous people are sorely lacking in self confidence. for them, it’s easier to do that than try to make themselves better. and that’s good – it means less competition.
Totally agree with Chrispito – I cannot, CANNOT understand people who can’t be happy for another’s success. It’s so mean-spirited, I can’t bear to be around it.
Well, I was going to read the Oprah bio but after cracking the book open ate various stages it just seems the author has one big chip on her shoulder. The author just wants to shine a light of a particular hue on, Oprah and it’s just very unflattering… to the author.
I’d be embarrassed to write a book like that. Hundreds of pages to complain about, Oprah. Give me a break.
They don’t seem to understand that we are all connected and that support for others comes back to you in the end, as does criticism and jealousy.
Mehitabel: I stand corrected! Good to know!
I am glad that I am not like those kind of people! I wouldnt want to get jealous of other people’s succeses! Its selfish
I only get inspiration from them . Its like they are standing at the top of a mountain , and when I see them I want to go there too. (NOT wishing for them to fall off)
I started ukulele lessons last year. My teacher is a great musician. He plays wonderful, extraorninary melodies. I didnt get jealous/envie of him. It just gave me the motivation to want to achive it for myself. Not to take their place, but to play alongside with them.
“I only get inspiration from them . Its like they are standing at the top of a mountain , and when I see them I want to go there too. (NOT wishing for them to fall off)”
Very well said, mmarianna.
Will anyone admit to feeling envy? Not of Elsa or successful astrologers, just in general.
Del said: Envy is an energy that is neutral until directed. You can use your envy to recognize, “Hey, I want what she’s got,” and go out and make or get your own version of the thing you desire – in that way, it can be healthy. It’s when you’re too damned lazy to do it yourself, when you hate yourself for not doing it yourself, or when you believe that forces have conspired against you to prevent you from having it yourself, that it turns ugly and inwardly or outwardly destructive.
I agree. There is nothing wrong with being envious of someone. What is wrong is wanting them to fail so you feel better, and negative behavior like that.
I will admit that I sometimes am envious/jealous of what other people have.
mmariana said: I only get inspiration from them . Its like they are standing at the top of a mountain , and when I see them I want to go there too. (NOT wishing for them to fall off)
I get inspiration from them. I want to climb the mountain too, and I sure don’t want them to fall off.
Where it gets hardest is when I realize that the person I am envious of got where they are because they had help and advantages that I never had or will have. When I know it is not that I am lazy or less talented, but that my life turned out different for various factors financial and otherwise, some of which were my own doing and some out of my control. When,as Dell said, forces (karma?) have conspired against you so you don’t have what they have. Or if the thing they have that you wish you did is something you just will never ever have,no matter how much you work at it, due to genes or age or whatever. Then it is difficult, and can turn destructive. For me, inwardly destructive and never outwardly. I do not wish anyone else ill-will, but I do sometimes beat myself up what I am not and wish I was.
“Where it gets hardest is when I realize that the person I am envious of got where they are because they had help and advantages that I never had or will have….”
This is interesting too. I had no advantages on one level. I left home when I was 15 without a dime or even a purse to hold a dime. I had on a sun dress from Goodwill and a pair of those rubber thongs that cost 3 pairs for a dollar at the time. Now here is the weirdness:
I have felt jealous of someone who had an easier start. I don’t know why. I don’t know if I am missing a lobe of my brain… if have brain damage(this is possible) or whatever it might be. I might have heard something from Henry or one of my parents for example, but I am telling you, I have never felt envious of a rich kid or something like that for so much as a moment in my life and my point is…
I am sure this perspective or way of being qualifies as an advantage because that kind of envy does nothing but keep you down.
I just don’t feel envy. I don’t envy people who had a better start than me. I’m inclined to believe that I don’t know what’s going on in someone else’s life, in their heart or in their home.
I may desire what someone else has (stability, love, whatever) but this desire is COMPLETELY divorced from the other person who has it. The other person at that point isn’t even in the picture.
I have a lot of fixed and cardinal planets, and they’re all in 1st, 9th or 10th houses. That 10th house is a Leo stellium, which I have finally learned to understand through astrology; my ignorance of it has caused me no end of trouble, which I can see now but not before.
Part of that understanding came from friends and colleagues who stabbed me in the back and walked away. I literally could not understand why they did that until I looked at the twin fangs of Envy and Jealousy. And funnily enough, it wasn’t until I started groovin’ with all my Scorpio stuff that I came to my current understanding of jealousy!
I learned that like so many other things in this world, envy and/or jealousy have FEAR (along w/laziness) at their roots: fear of failing, fear of succeeding, fear of not having enough love, money, attention or recognition for what you do. The fear that there’s not enough in the well keeps some folks pushing others away from the well all day long. ‘This is MY area of expertise! Yours is over there – go do that and leave my area alone!’ I think it’s human to have these fears, everybody experiences it at one time or another, but there’s folks who let these fears control them. Not a pretty sight for sure.
I’m with mmariana – I like to watch folks climb to the top – they inspire me. My vision of what’s at the top may be different, but I really admire those who try to achieve their vision. I have worked hard to climb a mountain or two myself, and I know the kind of work, belief in yourself, and lock-jawed tenacity it takes. All that Leo may be a pain in the ass sometimes, but it makes us enthusiastic cheerleaders too!
People who are jelly-beans (jealous) end up doing in their own Selves eventually. I’ve seen that happen over and over too and it’s sad.
And Elsa, I don’t have cable or satellite so I don’t watch TV, but if you had a show like Andy Rooney’s I’d get it just so I could watch you!
Peppermint, I love the term you use to describe jealous folks. Jelly-beans. That’s great. So true about doing themselves in as well, and it is sad.
My husband has an interesting angle on this:
“Where it gets hardest is when I realize that the person I am envious of got where they are because they had help and advantages that I never had or will have….”
He says it is generational. Our generation in America grew up thinking we had the right to pursue, life, liberty and happiness, independent of anything… which is true. He feels people are taught (socialized) into the class warfare mentality… more and more over the years.
I realize this sounds like politics of the day but hang with me here a sec.
My husband grew up in the 3rd world. His father was born in a mud hut (his wife/ me grew up in an adobe house aka a mud hut) but anyway, his father immigrated to the US to enjoy the freedom and opportunity this country afforded a person but once established… well my husband was born here but moved to the 3rd world when he was 2 months old.
“What is the attitude there at the time?” I asked.
“Well they just thought everyone in America was rich. They were rich.”
“Well were they jealous? Or inspired.”
“Neither. These people lived under totalitarian governments (he lived in more than one 3rd world county / his family moved around). They just tried to survive. They didn’t think it was possible to do better…”
You get the idea. I am the way I am (according to him) because I grew up with the idea I had the right to pursue whatever I wanted… the heights of success and happiness.
Now people are taught they have no chance due their disadvantages and by and large this is true. What a fuckin’ trap. What a fuckin’ racket. What a fuckin’ PRISON.
I think you can do what you want (in this country at this point) but you have to actually do it.
Danny Devito is a very successful actor for example. Talent, ambition and hard work. They are dogging Venus Williams at the moment. People ought to be slapped.
Yes well, people are going to have to reconnect to survival mode soon enough. There won’t be time and energy for this sort of nonsense any more when they’re just trying to find enough to feed themselves.
You know, when I wrote of “advantages” I realize from the following comments it was taken as monetary advantages, rich kids, etc. While it could be taken that way, upon reflection it really was meant more like other types of advantages. Support from the universe, and from partners, or mentors. Things working out when you put forth effort. Dare I say the occasional stroke of “luck” even? That sort of thing.
What I am jealous of now is all you people who say you don’t ever feel envy! That sure could be an advantage, as Elsa said. Cause it is true, except when used as a motivating factor, envy gets me nowhere.
I have really never felt envious in my life. The closest I have come to something like that is when I knew / saw people who were really in love and I was not. That made me feel incredibly sad. I never thought I would ever have that and while I could accept it, I was really, really, really sad.
I think this is because love is most important to me… by far.
Anyway, I too left home early, at sixteen, with nothing. I’ve done pretty good considering that, and the fact that it is true, I was not taught that I had the right to pursue the heights of success and happiness. It is true, I was taught by the adults around me that I pretty much have no chance due to disadvantages.
But I turned out alright anyway. In a way, very successful,and very fortunate. More than I “should” have, according to those rules. Just not in the way I really want, and might have pursued at a younger age if things had been different.
Funny that you mention it making you feel sad, not envy. It makes me really sad too. Maybe I don’t even know what envy really is, lol.
Well, luckily, love is something I do have. It sure is the most important thing. Good to remember!
This is interesting….I think about my own perspective on the jealousy or envy feeling and I know that I have felt it before and it has been at the times in my life where I felt down-trodden, a moment, a blip on the radar where I may have taken a mis-step or slackened the reins a bit on my own life direction (others might use the word lazy here), but its a period in which you know you have not been functioning at your best. And your next door neighbor gets a new car, or is going on a big vacation or your best friend just got the job of a lifetime and I am just over here feeling sucky and yes, I have felt jealous. Not for the things they have because I have never had a thing for cars and I have taken alot of vacations myself, but its having that good thing happen to someone else and you wonder, “why can’t that happen for me?”
That, of course, is when I have to take a good hard look at my life and think….well, how can I make something happen? Really want that certification?, get to studying and study hard and pass it this time! Want to have a better relationship with your husband? Then get to talking to him about it and see if he wants the same and work at it…everyday! Want to have a better figure? Then eat better and start back to your exercising….nobody is going to do this for me, but me….and I know that and then I start doing what I have planned out. And even my initiation makes me feel so much better right away. It is when I start feeling sorry for myself that I have to jerk myself out of it. And I do. Because I do want to have real love, feel proud of myself, have that sense of accomplishment. It is such a great self esteem booster….and being a Capricorn with a Leo flavor, I am very hard on myself.
I’m sorry that stuff happens to you, Elsa.
We all feel jealousy and envy, but like any other emotion it’s what we do with it that counts.
The Einstein quote that Deb posted in the first comment really sums it up. There is something really pathological about it. And they’re obviously very unhappy people.
I think that people who are envious are projecting their own shadows on what “could” be in their lives, but they have not been willing to do the things that need to be done in order to have that success, lifestyle, whatever it may be. I am speaking from my own shadow hood here.
Interesting about the pursuit of life liberty, freedom etc. I think that most people are programmed from early childhood. And that parents have an enormous impact on a person’s mindset. (I.e, There are so many immigrants that I see, that are sucking the system. I have yet to figure out why new immigrants get to have total health and dental care (my doc is witness to this at the local ER, where folks tear up their “suggested donation” on the way out the door), courtesy of me, the taxpayer, whereas, I fall through the cracks. And with rare exception, generations of families follow through on living in public housing while getting food stamps. ) Am I envious, yes.
For a most fascinating account of how some the most successful of our generation got lucky, were born the right months, had narrow curtains of opportunity, and on and on, I would encourage everyone to read The Outliers, by Malcolm Gladwell. It is short and to the point, and points out how much that chance, hardwork, being born in the right place at the right time and so one, is involved in success. Fascinating!
It’s true that there’s the idea of the American dream, but N. America is generally a competitive and individualistic society. I think envy stems partly from the idea that there isn’t enough pieces of the pie to go around so if someone else has it, you can’t.
I think Chrispy (#39) nailed it for me.
I may want what someone has, but once I identify why I look up to that person (and it is, always, an admire rather than resent thing) then they’re no longer in the picture. It becomes how to get what I want or accepting it if I can’t.
ME. I own it. And I don’t want to be a cesspool, thanks. *grins*
Though I can be a downright jealous, possessive bitch when it comes to monogamous relationships. That shit’s scary, yo. 
Dearest Elsa,
this is going to be my first reply. I am not native to english speaking countries, but I do read your posts, I follow most of your friend’s posts, such as Theo’s, Julie’s, Karen’s…to mention just a few…
I am curious by nature (double sagittarius) and probably I reborn “myself” back into this human reality show for a reason, to learn, to understand and to re-member: Why people are acting towards each other the way We do…
I can not eliminate myself out like: ME and THEM…because We are ALL made out of the same fabric within our true inner core essence.We are all somehow connected and glued via LOVE and Light, divine counsciousness.
But for the sake of better understanding of each other’s individuality and free will, that we were all gifted with, and by taking that huge responsibility by returning and live physical life onto this planet, we all did choose a different roles to play on this huge stage , called Life. We all agreed to do or not to do certain things to each other. And to understand this, one soul has to take third wiev and become just an observer. It is personal holy Trinity code. By unconditionally accepting positive and negative side, connected in third spot, like triangel. Move out of being on one or another side. Connect both of them and rise up like an island in the middle of that Troubled or Smooth River of Life. Stay there and observe. Accept what they are saying. For them is their Truth. By accepting thier truth we are not loosing or denying ours. With this, you are protecting yours. Because all Truths, no matter how they sound to us, are complimenting each other and not exclude one another. We are like a mirror to each other. Whatever other person is saying, I know in my heart, is what person see about himself, herself, for I know my mirror is clean of judgement and clean of jelousy and envy, because I am too busy keeping my mirror to be clean enough.
I listen and I observe. The moment that I feel that I am not responding to the sound words of another, by getting emotionally involved, that moment I feel-know, I had passed the exam and that person will not need to play that game infront of my being any longer. Not for me anyway, but if that person is still playing the old same roll, it is his-her way of showing me, that they didn’t learn what I have. I accept what the reality is here and go with the flow with that river and one morning, this kind of people are gone. I stopped feeding them by energy, that has various names here. Energy is just one, but depends where you are willing to invest it and under what name is playing for you.:) It helped me a lot when I stopped asking WHY THIS HAPPENED and replaced it with question: WHAT HAPPENED HERE?
So, it happend a lot and I am free to meet people that do speak my language, the language of free Heart.
It wasn’t easy to build that island in the middle of that troubled waters, but Island is what is best, better than the bridge over. So people are getting the wrong impression, how easy it is to go from one side to another. If you have your island in the middle, they have to risk and jump into the heavy waters themself, only then I know this person truly needs my hand and helping that kind of person is a heaven’s feeling, worth enough to be written straight into Akashic Records. Experence for both sides equaly.
That is almost all. I am only adding my loving, humble hugs for all of you, dear Elsa, for all of your readers and all hard working (and easy working ones, too,) astrologers, that have patient minds and powerfull hearts to capture the secrets that we left behind and hidden even from us, when we decided to come back on planet to do just that. To wait for ourselves and to unfold the Secrets of Life Treausers that we can easily smile at them, when found for its genuinity. To awake and recognize, what is ours and what is not and what role is ours in this Mighty Game, called Life. Respecting the negative and dark words-actions, as much as all positive and beautiful ones, is the answer and good cure of leting go of the past hurts and shadows, that were fed and driven only by fear, FEAR and fear, that is opposite of Love. And allowing ourself to BE what we truly are. All of that.Great beings under disguise, the infinite Miracles, that we are all waiting for. Well, we are here…and ready, aren’t WE?
To love and accept ourselves unconditionally.
I do, already love you all as you are. Thank you for being here in this heavy times, but unique ones and playing your role so profoundly.
Dea-Dakini.
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