I haven’t heard anyone else mention this but again, I like to think in terms of a natural chart. This puts Pluto in Capricorn at the top of the chart which has it aspect the bottom of the chart (the roots) by default.

I see people becoming more clannish, even people like me who aren’t inclined in that direction. I think this trend will continue and that people can benefit by excavating their roots and the patterns and psychology they’ve inherited from their families.

It’s a deep topic but just to grab a piece of it, it occurred to me today that I am a little sister. I have two older sisters and I had a third older sister who died. However you turn it, I am the youngest girl, the (tag-a-long and try to get attention) little sister and I don’t think this is something you can shake.

On the surface, yes. On the kid-yourself-level, yes. But if you scratch the surface it becomes clear this is not something that you can outgrow or that goes away.

I still have “little sister” feelings. I still feel I am likely to be shut out the way two older sister will close the door on the third, not allowing her access to their important business. ;-)

In contrast my husband is the oldest in his family and on that note I think it is very common for people in his position and mine to marry. But aside from that, his position in his family is also very identifiable. His brother is his “little brother” even though they are only now and not much more than a year apart. They still have the big brother/little brother dynamic and it is dramatic in it’s expression.

Where do you fall in the birth order in your family?

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46 Responses to “Pluto In Capricorn: Are You The Little Sister? Psychological Effects Of Birth Order In Families”

1.
neva
neva

I’m the oldest of three, and the only girl. We’re all four years apart. I’m not close to my brothers at all. We are all completely different.

 
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neva
neva

How many times can I use the word “all” in a very short paragraph? Sheez. :)

 
3.
CArRiE
CArRiE

Ohhhh, Elsa- this is my favorite topic!! Family dynamics. I’m the oldest child in my family and it’s made a profound impact on my personality. I also have been married 4 times, so I’ve been able to intimately observe other families and their unique dynamics- fascinating!! I can’t wait to hear/read all the comments on this post.

 
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miss
miss

I think about this often I am an older sister to my brother who is only 15 months younger than me. We seem to be totally opposite he seems older and more conservative than me but he does have Saturn in the first house. My husband on the other hand is an only child so we sometimes but heads.

 
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mmarianna
mmarianna

I am the little sister. My brother is 8 years older than me! But we are very close.

My boyfriend is the oldest. His sister is 11 years younger :)

 
6.
von
von

I am the little sister with over 7 years gap to my big brother. I think I am a mix of little sister and only child… I like being part of a duo but I also enjoy my own company. Unfortunately, I married a little brother who had 7 years gap to his next brother. Not good.
It was funny when my daughter and her partner were living with me because we are all the babies in our families. Not a lot got done around here… I think all of us were waiting for someone else to do it. We used to joke that we couldn’t wait for her baby to grow up because he was the oldest child in his family :-D
There is a saying I like “the oldest child will sell you the shirt off their back, the middle child will give you the shirt off their’s, but the youngest child? where’s the shirt???”

 
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chrispito
chrispito

Youngest of four daughters. A pattern that repeats on the maternal side the last 4 generations, believe it or not.

 
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Candela
Candela

I’m the eldest child and also the eldest cousin. I only got sibblings almost my father remarried, one stepbrother (from my stepmother’s previous marriage), who is almost 3 years younger and a halfbrother, who is almost 13 years younger than me. But before that, my cousins were always around. Basicly, I was always the one who “looked after the little ones”. I adored them, but being in charge somehow kept me out of their fun.

My SO is the younger of two children, but he also was the youngest cousins. His cousins lived next door, so they kind of were one, big, extended family. He definitely was pampered, but probably tried extra hard to fit in too. He learned to read at 3, and I have a letter he wrote at 5.

 
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chrispito
chrispito

I think with my reference to multi-generational estrogen overload, I carry something inside me which I can’t see. I once mentioned on a thread that my family “owns” me. I’m trying to figure out what it all means. Saturn in the 8th wants to “get” it.

 
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Vajra
Vajra

I’m the oldest (of two) while my SO is the youngest, by far (of six). Interesting! Also note that I’m the oldest daughter of an oldest daughter of an oldest daughter of an oldest daughter – as far back as we can trace it. the seventh i think.

 
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Vajra
Vajra

Funnily enough a family member currently is excavating our roots and patterns via prenatal/conception astrology.

 
12.
SaDiablo
SaDiablo

Youngest of two, there’s five years between us. We used to be close, but that fell by the wayside a decade ago. Now we try to be close but it falls flat. She’s not the same person anymore, drastically.

 
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Sitara
Sitara

Only child here. It’s always escaped me how people with siblings see the world. All the only children I know are a little behind the curve when it comes to socializing… :)

 
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Shannon
Shannon

I’m the oldest of 3. My sisters are 4.5 and 11.5 years younger!

 
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curious wanderer
curious wanderer

Oh man, this is a complicated topic for me. I am the oldest, the youngest, the middle child, and the only child. Not joking!

My father has three daughters older than me, one I’ve never met. I wasn’t raised with the other two, and their lives have taken drastically different paths than mine.

I am the only child of both of my parents.

My mother has a daughter 10.5 years younger than me. She’s the only one I really think of as “my sister.” My father also raised her, so while we don’t share all the genes, we share the family dynamics.

Personality wise, I think I mix attributes of the only and oldest child.

 
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Jennifer
Jennifer

Only child, thank the gods. I feel very sad for the middle children in the family (unless they were born with penises) because they end up being the buttmonkeys. Who needs that?

I always assumed if I had another sibling I’d be the “perfect” one and the second kid would be the buttmonkey. As an only child, I’m both :P

 
18.
Piya
Piya

I’m a middle child! Jennifer, I did just fine! However I was the only girl between two boys. Interestingly — I seem to go out with men who are also middle children.

 
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PinkMinxx
PinkMinxx

I am the oldest and the only girl. My brothers are 4 and almost 10 years younger.

 
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Becca
Becca

I’m the youngest (of four) but was more or less raised like an only child since my siblings are 12 to 17 years older than I am. They were all out of the house by the time I was six. I was kind of a pest to my youngest brother before he escaped to college, though!

My boyfriend is the oldest of five; he was the only boy.

 
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karen6
karen6

Funny talking about this today with two of my children. Told my son he was the forth child of a forth child.
We talked about the dynamics’s of this.

 
22.
Demelza
Demelza

I’m the oldest of six (4 girls, 2 boys). 24 years between me and my youngest sibling. My husband is the middle child of 5.

 
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Togi
Togi

Only child although I have a half sister I have never met.

 
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Togi
Togi

Edited to add that I was legally adopted by my grandparents so that makes me and my Mom sisters if you want to look at it that way.

 
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ReikiHeart
ReikiHeart

I am the oldest of four, kind of. I have one younger sister with us having both the same parents, then a half-sister (different mom for her). Then the stepmother got stuck with all of us and had another daughter with someone else (not my dad). I raised all of them until I could’nt take the stepmom anymore and moved in with my dad.

Any way you turn it, I’m the oldest, even though my parents had a son before me who died @ three days old. I was a huge disappointment, having failed to grow a penis in utero. But oh do I LOVE being female, and I would’nt trade that for anything !

 
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liz
liz

I’m the middle of 3. 2 years older sister (who marries on saturday!!!) and 2 years younger brother. I have heard that middles are rebels having neither the pressure of the first, or the pampering of the 3rd. We tend to get ignored and therefore do what we want. :P I like the idea because this is true for me. I did a lot of observing and partnering one-on-one to gang up on the other.. but great for playing games all together!

Worked for me with my 12th house libra planets and 4th house ruled by aquarius. :) My Jupiter in pisces as well which connects to my 3rd house of siblings which is ruled by sag. I did a lot of daydreaming and had a lot of fun with my siblings. :)

 
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Lisa
Lisa

I am the oldest of my mother and fathers children this puts me in a bit of a strange place. Because I have a much older step Sister and Brother so I am a middle child also. My mother use to say she had 3 only children as my younger sister is 8 years younger and my brother is 17 years older. All that being said my much older sister and brother are ll and 12 years older and they really were not around a whole lot but enough for them to feel like siblings. Of my nesting of children I am obviously the oldest I am the responsible one. My DOB: 10/30/1955. My sister is a true Middle child with most of the middle child problems. She is very Physic and is a Tarot and Palm reader her DOB: 07/25/1963. My younger brother is a very sweet Gemini DOB: 06/15/1972 He was the as a young child we did not get along worth nothing but as adults both my younger siblings are the greatest and I am honored to have them.

 
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Lisa
Lisa

17 years younger not older. Fat fingered that one wouldn’t ya say

 
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Teresina
Teresina

Only child but was the youngest among my cousins who lived in the area, so I definitely got the little sister feelings. Whereas, my out of state cousin is younger than me, but the oldest child in her family, so she acts like a big sister.

 
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Michelle M
Michelle M

I’m the oldest of 4 ( 2 brothers, 1 sister) and after reading some of the comments, and taking in Elsa’s post I thought to myself – I’ve always felt like the oldest, even in social situations. However, it’s a feeling that has been rather subconscious until now. I tried to think if there was ever a time I felt someone looking after me. The way I’d imagine a younger sibling would have strong memory/feelings of. My first immediate, and I have to admit oldest child response was- No! I’ve never had that unique experience of being cared for. Then I remembered my teen years, my father had died when I was 15, and in an effort to help her children my mother signed all of us up with the Big Brothers and Big Sisters Program. I had this wonderful “Big Sister” for 3 years. She taught me to drive, and to hand decorate cakes. I realize my situation was ideal. We didn’t have to deal with each other on a daily basis nor over the long haul, but she took me under her wings and it felt awesome.

 
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music4am
music4am

Ok, I guess I’m feeling really lucky right now. My Mom & I talked about this awhile ago and this was her take. I’m a twin, the younger by 11mins. In my teens & early 20′s, I was most definitely acting the part of an oldest. When I got out of college I took off to see the world and never looked back. I also have a baby sister, making me a “middle”. Not concerned with family affairs or keeping up with either the “older” or the “baby” sister, just happy to go do my thing. Angie

 
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Del
Del

Like everything else in my life, I’m weird in birth order, too. I have four much older half-siblings that my dad had with his first wife. I never got to know them. I have an older sister that my mother gave up for adoption and recently found. (Surprise!) So I was raised an only child, though I’m the youngest child of both parents. I’m really independent, but my mother tries to keep a parental hold on me because I’m the only child she was able to keep.

 
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Elsa
Elsa

This came up for a number of reasons but one of them is that I noticed my own feelings when writing my cousin who is Annalisa’s age.

At this age, we are all the same age but the dynamic is still there.

To add another layer, her mother and my mother were cousins but more like sister, who grew up together. Her mother is older and so felt she had to look out for my mother.

I believe my cousin feels similar about me, as does my sister. They just don’t perceive me to be on their plane.

On the surface you are peers but deeper down there is something there. I am “little Elsa”.

My husband always makes remarks about his “little brother”.

“Motherfucker never would leave me alone…”

And of course his brother doesn’t leave him alone.

“…always callin’ me with some shit he wants to talk about…”

I do this to Annalisa as well, actually. And she HAS to talk to me, just like my husband has to talk to his little brother who is not really all that little ya know?

Ha

 
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Jilly
 
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alicia
alicia

LOL, my little sister does too Elsa.

I’m kind of the middle, I have two older brothers by 7 and 9 years and a younger sister by 6 years. So I was the youngest, and then I got shafted and ended up being in the middle when my sister was born. I had to be all responsible and set an example. Boy was I mean to her for a long time. But now we’re extremely close. :)

 
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AriesSun
AriesSun

Oh Goodness – both of my parents were only children. Closest cousins are 3rd cousins..go figure.

1 sister is younger (no contact per her), and married to one who is the oldest of 7..

Oldest marries oldest…lots of “bossiness”..

 
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AriesSun
AriesSun

Another note: I have been feeling like I want to be closer to my little sister, but have to accept whatever her “issues” are about not wanting to have any contact with me..tried to talk to her over the yrs., but nothing works *sigh* Maybe someday…

 
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chrispito
chrispito

becca:) Happy for you!

 
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amandapm
amandapm

Yes – I am the older of two sisters and yes, I feel it’s always important to do what my sister wants. If she needs to talk, we talk. If she needs something else, I just am not able to say “no.” And I like that about having a younger sibling; it’s nice, I think, to have someone in my life that I can’t say “no” to (maybe because I can say it oh-so-easily to EVERYONE else, LOL!) To me, she is always going to be, deep down, a sweet and sensitive little kid eating oatmeal in the morning and watching “Captain Kangaroo,” and I would do anything in my power for that little kid. :)

 
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Sanguine
Sanguine

On the phone earlier…

Me: “Blah blah blah, it occurs to me that my mother is a middle child and my stepfather is a youngest child, and this is significant, blah blah blah…”

Friend: “Did you read Elsa today?”

Me: “No, not yet, why?”

Friend: “She posted on this!”

-

As for my part, I’m an only child, an oldest, a youngest, and a middle, depending on your angle. I’d try to explain, but it never works unless I draw a chart.

 
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Herby
Herby

I’m the oldest of 3. My next sister is 15 months younger than me and my youngest sister is just under 3 years younger than me. I’m very protective of my sisters and still call them my ‘middle sister’ and ‘baby sister’ despite them both being mothers themselves.

It’s just because I love them and feel connected to them in that ‘sibling’ way.

 
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Michael
Michael

I’m the second of two sons. That automatically means ongoing dissing from the firstborn, of course, but… both my mother and father are firstborns as well – can you imagine all that ego and friction and want and ‘me first!’ in one household? And guess who had to spend a lot of the time dodging to avoid being dumped on!
The good thing is that it taught me an enormous amount about human nature – I would sit and watch these three prima donnas, and try and work out what was behind it all.

 
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krisinluck
krisinluck

Officially, I’m the bonus baby. My brothers – who I grew up with as they were Mom’s kids from previous marriage – are nine and twelve years older than me. When the whole family would come home at one time, I felt completely separated from them.

I still have contact with the oldest. The middle brother pretty much screwed the pooch with me at Mom’s funeral, although we do connect on rare occasions, usually him sending me a Jesus Freak Christmas card.

I also have three sisters – my dad’s daughters – who I have never met since he left when I was two.

So yeah, I’ve got siblings, but I have always felt more like an only child.

 
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eris
eris

i’m the oldest of a handful.
my wee sibs are always going to be “littles” though i tend to differentiate between my “adult” and “teenage” ones when talking about them.

i guess some of the birth order stuff does come through. i felt very protective, but was also a bit bossy, especially when i was still a kid. very driven by my parent’s idea of who i should be. they loosened up a lot by the time the littles hit their teens.

my significant relationships have been about a third oldest, a third youngest, and a third onlies. my SO right now is an oldest. but kind of an only, too.

 
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austrlia
austrlia

I’m the little sister. My brother affectionately says his little blister. Learned to stand up for myself early. As two older brothers were always faster, smarter and bigger than me. Or I could scream the house down as a last resort. I used to dread mum and dad going out and telling the boys to watch your sister, that usually spelled disaster for me. Many stories of being tricked, outsmarted,teased or simply change the rules of the game half way thru to suit themselves.
When in my 20s, my eldest brother and I laughed our guts out at my stories of growing up with them, very healing to put it all aside as adults and have a laugh about it. He had no recollection of the shitty things they used to do. typical.

 
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Elsa
Elsa

Welcome, austrlia. :)

 


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