Saturn Opposite Uranus: Regarding The Polarization In Society Redux
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The Saturn opposition to Uranus is approximately 2 weeks from it’s exact aspect and is getting tighter every day. The people in this country are so polarized, I have only seen ONE person budge on their position over the last year or so.
I have pretty much accepted I going to be in almost total disagreement with half the people in my country for the foreseeable future which is inordinately upsetting to anyone who has Libra and I do. I have never been in such a situation in my life.
My thrust at this point is around figuring out how I am going to live and interact with people who oppose and work against my most deeply held beliefs and I know I am not alone.
I am torn between feeling at least some sense of responsibility to speak up or to try to encourage discourse on the various issues. Another part of me feels I should keep quiet and I could vigorously argue for or against either option.
Bottom line, the same opposition in the sky and in the collective plays out internally and I wonder what others think about this and also how they are coping.
How are you managing or handling the fact that half the people disagree with you?
38 Responses to “Saturn Opposite Uranus: Regarding The Polarization In Society Redux”
My Libra Moon encourages me to “mind my own business”, so I just don’t care if others agree with my beliefs, much less hold the same ones as I do. I feel that people equally could’nt care less what I think/believe either; until they’re in my face, trying to convert me to their religion, etc.
There’s too much going on. I’d make myself crazy if I went on worrying about what others think, or if they could/should like me for what I think. I think that polarisation is only harmful when we become critical of others, instead of respecting their right to live as they see fit.
Kinda used to it…..
Ha ha ha! MP me too!And goddess I totally hear you!! me too!
I have Libra and I hate it. I don’t mind people disagreeing with me – I like to see all sides of an argument.
However… I hate being called a racist, hateful, violent, etc for no reason. Hate. It.
That is beyond disagreement.
I was speaking up, but I quit, and will speak up at a later time if I am able, because this is just the beginning.
LOL that last phrase wasn’t a threat – I mean Pluto will be in Cap for a long time & is just in the early degrees.
Though mighty ass-kicking just the same. 
This polarization reminds me of the Civil War. Each side thought they were right and turned on one another. It was a very sad time in America’s history.
Not well… I start speaking my mind, nobody agrees with me or, most of the times, I feel no one gets it… I get frustrated, I try to explain my point and get more disagreement… To the point I give up because I don’t know what else to say which leaves me even more frustrated… So, any advice on how to cope with this will be more than welcome! 
Waiting it out.
This is right in my wheelhouse. Now everyone gets a taste of what life is like inside my head. Sun square Moon.
I’m avoiding the topics entirely. I can tell I’m too fiery about my position right now, and I wouldn’t listen to their points of view. I just don’t want to deal with that right now.
I avoid the other side as much as I can. It helps to live in liberal hippieville.
Seriously, the other side wants me dead, converted, eliminated, and they hate me just for existing as myself. What the hell else can I do?
I’m reminded of the whole Constance McMillen thing. Supposedly she doesn’t want to move away from her home, even if everyone there hates her guts. I can’t help but think that’s crazy. I should think it’s brave, I guess, but I also think life is too short to spend around people who loathe you, trying to make them not loathe you, and taking deliberate harm from them when they act out against you.
I despair of it. however, it mirrors certain aspects in my chart and it feels very familiar. familiar bad.
I despair of it, too. That hits the nail on the head, on both a personal and broader level.
It’s funny, just this morning I was thinking that I’m going to try with everything I have for the next year not to give advice, try to change anyone’s mind, pontificate, etc. I had a visual of cutting every string that ties me that way. Doesn’t mean I won’t be engaged, but I am feeling a bit relieved by this. It’s hard to explain. Maybe that’s my way of letting go of any control I thought I had. The people around me might be relieved, too, now that I think about it. lol
This really is something I’ve been dealing with all my life, having grown up in a country which whole essence is defined by the Leo Saturn / Aquarius Uranus opposition the Nation was formed under. People have strongly disagreed with me in an issue or another as long as I can remember.
And how am I dealing with it, as a Libra ? I’ve long since acknowledged that no matter how well I argue my points, I can’t bring all the people I interact with to see the light in the matter at hand. The one thing I can do, with my Libra stellium, is to facilitate dialogue. I’ve discoverd I’ve got a great deal of the proverbial Libra mediating skills.
Oh, I love me some debating!
I’m right there with you Stephanie!!! I also have Sun square Moon 
The desire to share with and teach others what I learn about in life is soooooo strong in me, but unfortunately, I also know that even if you can communicate your beliefs and ideas to others in a non-partisan kind of way, you never know if they are even hearing you let alone understanding or agreeing. So, I guess I’ve had to learn to let the universe bring those willing to me and stay away from those who don’t share the same beliefs as I do.
I’m with ReikiHeart – I also have Libra moon. Unless the situation affects my safety or someone in my family, I’m just not willing to “stir the pot” with my opinions. Who cares anyway?
One more thing: Are there any other Libra moons who avoid confrontation? I find I get physically ill if I get into an argument, or am near the energy of other peoples confrontation?
My pluto in 1st house libra is overwhelmed. Trying very hard to listen. Eventually the talkers (you need) are going to run out of things to say, and credibility.
This seems pretty normal to me, but then my Mercury is in Sadge so I always think I’m right. ALWAYS……THINK I’m right. In that order, with the always right before the thinking. After the past few years though, I’m not so inclined to speak up as I used to be. Nice. One upshot to Pluto rolling through I guess.
We’ll see much of the polarization from the inclinations of Saturn’s opposition to Uranus end this year, and much of the splits seen in the U.S. will continue to wane dramatically after 2012, as the Jupiter/Saturn opposition winds down by that year.
Opposition among the outer planets always correspond to the inclinations felt and seen on Earth, and this particular Saturn/Uranus opposition is no different.
After the fifth, and last opposition on the Aries/Libra axis, we’ll see a lessening of the polarization, which is also generational, decrease dramatically, with the last hurrah’s, so to speak, coming during the approach of the 2012 presidential elections.
Then, the December 2012 scare will come, and go, and by early 2013, things will calm down quite a bit with no major oppositions of note that year, until spring 2014, when Jupiter opposes Pluto, squared by Mars and Uranus.
However,the polarization that has been ongoing with Saturn’s opposition to Uranus will have long ended, bringing much welcome relief to those tired of re-fighting the outworn ideological wars of the past.
To be honest, I suspect the Saturn-Neptune opposition a few years ago prepped me for this-
I grew up with intense polarization within my family and am the peace maker in that I’m the only person in my family who is in contact with everyone else. I’m hoping I keep my sanity long enough in this life to be able to carry on bearing witness.
The opposition is currently 1 degree from my MC/IC. Definitely life changing stuff going on here with no illusions about what I see and hear.
Just SO curious what opinions you guys have that strike this Saturn Uranus…
so true, elsa. its annoying and the feeling of being alone sucks. but i realized that at the end of the day, beliefs are just beliefs. compassion towards myself and others would serve me well and those around me.
I second your thoughts, ann.
I just cannot tolerate the complete and utter ignorance of (all of it)talk TV and radio. People seem to take opinion as fact these days.
@AriesSun One more thing: Are there any other Libra moons who avoid confrontation? I find I get physically ill if I get into an argument, or am near the energy of other peoples confrontation?
I do and am in much the same place (Moon conj Neptune). Have no wish or need to be “right”. IMO, it is a disease of the soul.
try to figure out where they’re coming from and what we have in common.
besides, i don’t really feel on a side, either way. there’s too much complexity involved for me to look at it as an us vs them thing. there is no them, and there is no us. too many different perspectives.
er, i have a natal tsquare with saturn/uranus (sometimes a grand cross, depending on how you orb the moon…)
Goddess, we must have similar charts – I have the same opposition with Saturn in the 7th. And it’s making me crazy. People I love dearly are on opposite sides of the most important things to me – spiritually as well as politically. It’s so hard to avoid those conversations when it’s in our face all the time. Especially the politics!
PallasAthen: Yes, I agree. If we were to focus on center or balance we’d certainly at least be set up for Saturn’s passage through libra for the next couple years wouldn’t we. Orien’s Belt is said to be the doorway to the next world. If we centered maybe we could channel it through to earth. Uranus made out with Gaia and later castrated Uranus. Yet Uranus balance between extremes could bring heaven to earth. John Lennon Imagined it. Opps getting carried away.
Sam: Havn’t you heard “It’s all Beyond Belief”?
The body shop has a little lotion out called “leap”. My daughter left it sitting on my desk. chuckle.
Theo: “the idealogical wars of the past retried”
A group of us from the 60′s just had in Feb. CBC interview us from the Abortion Caravan under “the women are coming” Sunday Edition. Karin the documentary woman didn’t want to “rehash the past” just record it.
Ann: “at the end of the day beliefs are just beliefs” I’m with you!
Thinking: So that Abortion Caravan attempt to change the Abortion laws in the 60′s opposition didn’t actually do that the tape says until 18 years later. That would be 1988 the next conj of the two planets.
That would for me when the neighbour shouted out NO!, when my gay daughter began to come out and to which I just evolved into acceptance of lately during this saturn oo Uranus. So the outcome may be 18 yrs down the road. Meanwhile I continue yoga from the 70′s and it’s harvesting. I sing “thank god for yoga” more often. I was wondering what Theo meant when he said the it’s a generational thing. Kids now edging to 50? Then there’s my daughter in law 37ish with pluto in libra generation. When do they kick in? Anyone? thanks.
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I hate it! I have this opp in my natal chart and often feel at odds with others’ perspectives. But with the opp in the sky, it’s intensified to an absolutely jarring degree and I feel the pull between keeping my mouth shut vs. responsibility to speak out on issues that are important to me. It’s very push/pull and Saturn in Virgo has me scrutinizing everything that comes out of my mouth, feeling like I’m failing somehow. Too much? Too little? Too unclear? Too confrontational? Too pointless?
I’ve worried it will impact my relationships; natal Saturn in the 7th.