Saturn in Libra: Judging Your Relationships, and Cannibalism ::wink:: By satori
“What at first seemed sexy and progressive now struck him as vulgar and insecure.”
–John Irving, Last Night in Twisted River
Much has been said
about Saturn’s move into Libra and solidifying one’s relationships. I’m starting to look at the people in my life and decide whether or not they’re worth it. Is that harsh? It is, but it feels necessary. I sure don’t have unlimited resources, financial or emotional, and I’m feeling the crunch. I’m circling the wagons, figuring out who to keep in my lifeboat.
I want to surround myself with quality people, people with integrity. Not only have I lost patience putting up with those who don’t meet my basic values (do I have time for someone who steals from me? uh, no), but I’m starting to realize there may be other considerations. I’m starting to value my reputation.
While I agree to a point that one shouldn’t invest too much in what others think, there is a tipping point. If I hang out with skanks and thieves I can expect my reputation may be questioned. My reputation reflects on my children and my parents as well. It also effects my livelihood if I lose business because of that perceived reflection. Because of this I’m taking steps to balance my core value of kindness to others, all others, with a commitment to building substantive relationships.
Are you examining your relationships? Who are you inviting into your life raft: those with integrity or the portly and delicious?
27 Responses to “Saturn in Libra: Judging Your Relationships, and Cannibalism ::wink:: By satori”
I’m just laughing at “skanks and thieves”. Isn’t there an old song by Cher — “Gypsies, Skanks, and Thieves” – lol. No, I know…
This is a good post. I am always amazed at your grounding sense of integrity, Elsa. This is excellent advice in a world becoming more and more chaotic – wouldn’t you say?
In my life I feel like I am being given the opportunity to choose right relationships, as if everything that started a few or more years ago is repeating itself now, only with the right people this time around.
I only hope I can use what I’ve learned wisely.
Ugh! Satori – major faux pas! I’m so sorry, I was just thinking “Elsa” when I wrote the above! You and Elsa clearly share that integrity I’m talking about — and the addition of your insights only makes visiting here all the more worthwhile.
One thing is everyone writing on this blog has integrity because I don’t run with skanks and thieves!! 
I am not kidding, the people writing here are real and can be trusted… to have personalities and flaws and be real and so forth but definitely no one who is going to stab you in the back.
The front, maybe. ::smiles::
Well, the front…is at least fair
I really like the addition of contributors on here, by the way. Despite my confusion in the post above, I do hop on here everyday now wondering who from this integritous bunch will be posting.
There is a very old Greek saying “Pes Mou Pios Einai o Filos Sou, Na Sou Po Pios Eisai”. Literally translated it means: Tell Me Who You Friend Is, I Will Tell You Who You Are.
Oh, and Elsa, thanks for the Cher link 
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“I’m starting to look at the people in my life and decide whether or not they’re worth it.”
Up until a few short years ago, I had a habit of “outgrowing” people and friends in my life. After my marriage exploded in a fireball of “well, that wasn’t what I thought it would be,” I realized how harsh I had been on people, and I took a really good look at how I was behaving in my relationships.
For me, Saturn in Libra seems like it’s about finding out where the value is in my connection to the people in my lives–which is probably another way of saying what you’re saying, and just as harsh! “Why exactly do I love you again?”
But for me, it’s less about reputation and more about seeing what I’m putting into and getting out of my relationships…and if it’s working.
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Well stated, satori. I am pretty isolated, but I keep hearing this theme about the “quality” of people who you hang out with reflects your period of growth/ status.
And while I know many skanks and thieves, and locally not a lot of together, forward looking people, I know that is my choice to be here at this time. And that if I will continue to live in isolation, then video conferencing better hurry up and catch up, because I think we could have virtual communities very easily, that is, a group of like minded people meeting online, with all being present and seen. I’ve done this to a degree, but needs fine tuning.
I have known 3 people that died over the past 2 weeks, all very disturbed in their own way, and all giving up on life.
I do not judge people for their choices in life, in fact, don’t laugh, but I see the divine (the daimond in the rough) in everyone. So I give what I can, in terms of some level of love, but on the other hand, I can’t let the downers drag me down
Quality post, satori also if you’ve a lot of water it can get draining… this is esp a good time for heavy pisces/neptune types imho… set those boundaries and make ‘em clear.
i’m not so much cutting people out as building up the connections that are important to me. i’ve been very isolated for a long time.
“I’m circling the wagons, figuring out who to keep in my lifeboat.” – brilliant – laager mentality. The connections I do have are being cleaned out and refined – I am tending to be a bit Saturnine, but then I am a Cap e.g. the newsletter with SIX jokes in a row about the stupidity of women. Now, I needed to purchase some of the engineering tools they were offering, but had to clearup the ‘women are stupid’ shyte first…..ongoing
Yes, Satori, and my choices in relationships are based on investment of my energy. I´ve become so aware that my time, space and energy is sacred and not to be spent as if it was limitless; and that by sharing it with predators and vampires types i am steeling it from myself, and that by doing that, i am lacking the necessary responsibility to make it safely into the future . I am not a victim anymore, it´s my choice to set the boundaries, and a hard lesson too. Thanks for the post, and for your choice of words.
Awwww Satori Im truly loving your posts on the blog. Im loving this cool group dynamic between you, Elsa, Annalisa and Im sorry but I forgotten the name but the fourth other writer who has posted.
Yes having been examining the same things. Im learning to cut people and investing in quality people. I’ve been examining the way I love or my different types of love and what is valueable to me inconjuction with my relationships and love. Its been a great learning curve and has been quite intense since saturn was just in my 7th in Virgo and now is in Libra so double whammy or actually a triple whammy because at the end of this Im going to have saturn on top of Venus in libra soon enough.
Keep up the great posts <3
I actually did a lot of kicking to the curb during Saturn’s transit through Cancer, which is square all of my Libra. My circle’s pretty small right now, and it’s going to be difficult for me to let anyone new in during Saturn in Libra. Too many people haven’t come out of this Pluto in Sag “anything goes” mentality and aren’t aware of the shift into socially conscious signs. I don’t have time for jerky loudmouths–who does any more?
These posts are great Satori
two different sides of saturn in libra: one, i’m trying very hard to find a job that would let me live with my husband. we’ve been doing long distance for years & my career ambitions are finally taking a backseat to this compelling need to live in the same place. two, a friend of mine misbehaved badly at my wedding. we haven’t spoken since. i don’t feel any hatred towards her but i’m just ambivalent, like why would i go out of my way for you when you did such a selfish, insensitive thing? through experiences, i’m conscious of the need for forgiveness – and i would forgive her if she approached me outright – but she’s doing weird things like sending me impersonal invitation to things on social networking sites. to quote that great facebook song elsa linked a while back, are you f**king kidding me?
Thanks for this post, satori. This presents a different angle for me on the Saturn Libra transit and is thought-provoking. I haven’t really considered the transit in terms of reputations, although that’s most certainly what is happening as I examine my relationships and scrap what’s not working, what’s not of value.
I’ve been running with some people who have a reputation for being sketchy, in addition to the fact that they are drunks. No judgment there, because they have shown me more fun and excitement than most, but of course, there would eventually be a price to pay if I continue running with them.
I’ve decided to compromise a little social excitement in my life in order to invite some stable, supporting, morally upstanding peeps in.
with saturn in libra, i’ve felt a lot more interest in fairness in relationship. i am more aware of what i give vs. what is given to me and am feeling less compassion for folks on the other side of the lopsided scenarios.
what kind of surprised me is that this housecleaning really does feel like a *responsibility* in every sense of the word. i feel if i don’t limit what’s unworthy in my life, i am doing a disservice to everything that is worthy of my energy. it’s not just deciding it’s a good idea. it feels like a failure to allow inequitable relationships to survive.
When Saturn began its transit through my 4th house (and opposing the midheaven), I left my employer and had to sell my home to relocate. The ironic part was before I put it on the market, I discovered it had a crack in the foundation that was poorly repaired. This was not disclosed in any of the purchasing documents when I bought it. However, I repaired it to the best of my ability AND disclosed it when I sold it. How literal is that???
Coincidentally, I moved close by my father’s people during this transit. Since then, I’ve been re-evaluating my relationship with them and giving them a very cold, hard stare. I’ve discovered there’s some relatives who are good and mean well, and others whose worlds are simply too far away from mine for us to connect (I have Latina heritage, and gosh, we’re supposed to be on great terms with all relatives, even if they stab us!). In short, I’m learning who I can truly count on and not feel guilty about the rest.
We have a wedding next week, and I’ve been doing emotional and personal grounding exercises to prepare for the gathering… Ho-boy!!
thanks for all the compliments! I so needed that.
and now I have “gypsies, skanks and thieves…” running through my head on repeat along with “are you fucking kiiiiiiiidding me?!”
hey satori, enojoying your posts…
this has me thinking & i respect the notion of caring about your reputation especially because you care about your family’s needs…this extends the saturn/libra….from the libra partnership to the capricornian value and respect for family
i think i go through the motions of cutting or trying to cut the shanks and thieves…and then i get bored and invite one back on board…and for sure, this has hurt my family in the past
…one loser i invited home when i was a teenager, was likely responsible for stealing my mother’s silver…the only thing she had saved from her mother, and the only thing of material value she treasured (a taurus a/cap moon) …he cut the phone wires as well 
with life,time, energy and family all so precious… i can’t afford to have my fascinations hurt any of above
& we pisces have to be especially careful cuz the sympathy is awakened for just about anyone
yes, Lindsey, totally. it’s so hard to practice unconditional love and balance it with boundaries. that is a huge stumbling block for me. I’m learning to accept someone for who they are without handing them an all access pass to my life when they’ve proven untrustworthy.
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