People Who Try To Create Relationship Triangles With People Who Don’t Play That…
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Here’s a new angle and something I would like to fathom. You have your standard cheating / relationship triangle. Someone cheats, someone gets cheated on and someone cheats with but what about those people who attempt to insert themselves into other people’s relationship where no on is interested? I have seen both men and women do this. It has happened to the soldier and I right here on this blog.
The gal tried to insert herself between us and neither one of us give one whit about her - we just have (or had) no interest in her of any kind but she was just relentless in trying to make herself part of our lives by any means possible.
That was a long time ago. This comes up today because a friend of mine is going through this right now. She’s got a man and another woman he is not interested in keeps ramming her head (which is most likely drunk) into the door that is simply not open. What is the agenda here?
You see what I am saying? No one likes the person and they just assert, assert, assert themselves and the couple does not want to be “mean”. The person is not a real threat, see? If they were a real threat there would be emotion and perhaps inspire a response but instead it’s just… unfathomable to me.
It’s like watching a dog chase a car except it’s a person. There is no way that dog is going to get anywhere but off he goes. Are people not smarter than dogs? Seriously, I would like to understand this so if you can help…
Why do people doggedly pursue someone not only unavailable to them but utterly uninterested? What would be the astrology?

34 Responses to “People Who Try To Create Relationship Triangles With People Who Don’t Play That…”
I know someone like this. Umm…let’s see if I can remember her deets.
Sagittarius Sun; Aries Mars; Scorpio Mercury; Capricorn Venus…either Pisces/Aries Moon.
She really lacks the ability to parse info. given to her, compared to Merc/Scorps I know.
Lately I’ve been attributing it to Pluto in Sag on her Sun + Mars. She seemed so clueless where her energy went…:(
I got to know her a bit and I also felt that she’d some information “missing”–something kind of infantile about it all.
I mean infantile in the kindest way I can…just don’t have a better word for it.
Got to be some kind of projection. Because what they are after doesn’t exist. Also Neptune, because of the self-delusion.
I’m also wondering about empty houses. Because if a person has difficulty generating what they want for themselves, perhaps they would try to get it by piggybacking (unconsciously)off those who do have it.
I was thinking about a woman I know who was always falling for married men. These guys weren’t looking for it, she just used to fixate on them. In the end one of the things that became apparent was that it was the married STATE she was falling for, not the man himself particularly. I wonder if she had an empty 7th perhaps, or no aspects to its ruler? Just a thought.
Opal has a good point. If people see something with amazing energy that appeals to them, sometimes it doesn’t matter if it’s a situation or a person. I like the Neptune guess. But I also wonder if there isn’t something magnetic in the chart of the couples that draws weaker personalities in? Like, if your composite chart somehow has features that draw certain people?
On the flip side, I have a married couple who are friends and have “courted” me in the past. I can’t say that I don’t love them both, but I CAN say that it’s maybe not the best thing for me to get involved in…er….yeah.
and you think, “stupid dog,” but if you slow the car down you’re more likely to run it over.
Some people simply “see” things that are not there. And when the couple (either party) does not make it obvious to the interloper that they (and their advances) are unwelcome, well…you can’t really blame them when they keep trying. They obviously think/feel there is something there, otherwise, why keep trying? Of course, they are completely delusional…but unless they are TOLD they are delusional, they won’t know it…I realize some people don’t want to be “mean”, but sometimes it is the kindest thing you can do. (”You’ve got to be cruel to be kind” anyone?)
As for the astrology, it has to be a Neptune/Venus mash-up of some kind, I would think…perhaps not in the natal, as I think people like this don’t do it habitually…but maybe an aspect with the “object” of their desire.
I always think it’s because they waaant it, because they are weak, because they don’t want to acknowledge the truth, because they expect other people to be like them.
Definately Neptune aspecting something, probably in the fifth, seventh or eight house. I had this aspect with the Virgo gentleman. Yet he continues to contact me. I have gone into therapy to figure this out and even my therapist is confused by him. We have Uranus conj. moon in the fifth ruled by LEO/Sun) and Neptune conj. in the eight (ruled by LIBRA). I think I read that a lot of secret love affairs have this aspect and I imagine a lot of disappoint, delusion, deceipt etc. is involved. I didn’t assert myself in between his new love (she’s married) but she did with us by texting him the whole time I was with him with “xxoo”’s one afternoon, which led me to believe they were already in an affair, and I was right, as I found out later. And a psychic told me she saw a blond woman swimming around him like a shark (she is a blond!). Now I told him this but he said she is not a threat to him. He also told me I am not a threat to HER. But he never came out and told me the truth until my feelings had been established so I was really hurt.
First thought upon reading this was “Wow, that sounds like a Pisces gone wrong”.
The whole “not in the reality of the situation, seeing what you want to see, acting on nothing but your emotions” sort of a situation.
Yep! with no help from him of course to tell me the truth!
luci - yeah. That is as near to it as I have been able to get. “Swim off little fishy, did you hit your head or somethin’??
You really don’t want to hurt these people they are so impaired.
Whenever I was in a relationship, suddenly all sorts of women would try to break us up or get me interested. I always took it as sort of a compliment, she’d see me and my GF happy together and wants some of that for herself. But as a Taurus, I am extremely loyal and would never stray, but it drove my gf crazy because she thought she had to compete with those women.
Now in retrospect, most of those interlopers were about 10 times the woman my girlfriend ever was, maybe I should have given them more serious consideration. And for that matter, where are all those women now that I’m unattached?
(Charles… they’re probably hiding from that eyeball of yours. Sorry I couldn’t resist, but it gives me the heebie jeebies!!!)
I haven’t experienced this as a couple, but definitely with some people who desperately want to be friends but I’m not “feeling it”. You have nothing much in common with them, but somehow you have something they want, or they think you have something they want… so projection and/or foggy illusions — Pisces/Neptune. They also seem unable or unwilling to gauge how their overtures are received, they don’t get that the other side isn’t interested…
ignore or confront… a friend of mine just went through this. He first set a clear boundary, then let things cool down with the woman (old friend) who wedged herself in. The minute he allowed any contact (trying to get back to the way it used to be) she tried to insert herself big time, ignoring his wishes and obviously creating potential trouble for both marriages. He’s heartbroken and disgusted and very clear on it. Two strikes, and she’s out. Erased from the smartphone of his life after decades of friendship. I’d like to know what the charts are like.
They feed off the energy. It creates a tug of war. As long as you hold your end even only defensively, they’ll play. Eventually if you close the doors and don’t take the bait they will leave (my experience).
Ah, just remembered something. There are people, and I have known them, that unless you actually spell it out for them, by saying NO, they think you are interested. They just don’t get the subtle cues. They think the fact that you are talking to them means YES. Because they have never heard a NO. I mean the word NO coming out of your mouth, not an indication or a hint. It sounds crazy, I know, but I’ve encountered this more than once. Any crumb will do.
As to astrology, where do you think the inability to pick up emotional or non-verbal cues would appear? Afflicted moon maybe?
I agree with the energy-sucking theory. That was my first instinct when I read this post, that this person feeds off the energy you both give off, but also the ‘high’ they get from getting you to respond to them even defensively. Weird, but I’ve seen it happen.
The other way around is equally interesting, when a couple indulges the presence of a single needy individual, to the extent of inviting him along with them on days out, meals, brief holidays… He is sort of like the mascot. I wondered what the need cycle was there.
Pursuing an uninterested couple sounds like a person looking for parents. And her own were uninterested or rejecting, so she feels right at home, and can’t see why she should leave.
She likes your energy as a couple, wants to be close, and doesn’t worry if you don’t like her. She doesn’t have any demands/wishes that you like her - you guys are parents (and we never get to demand that of our parents anyway, do we?). :/
Sea, I’ve often thought it (triangulation) was an unresolved/badly-resolved oedipal/electra complex at play.
think there might also be a competition element to it, too. when coming from a woman. “if they’re good enough for some other person to want them, i should have them”
and maybe they’re one of those people who readily cheats and thinks everyone does, with enough pressure applied. i have met some like that.
which i think is a form of projection.
er, i edited that to “female” competition” but mangled it. maybe men compete in the same way… i just think they tend to be more direct?
it’s a lot like someone who never grew out of high school, too. that kind of thing went on a lot there.
wyrdling, I wonder if female competition doesn’t stem from unresolved mother-daughter competition for daddy. I have actually seen the same with men who poach, tho it does seem to be less common or just less obvious (the familial connection).
@Sea - yeah, that’s what it makes me think of - ignored as a child, many people unconsciously seek the same rejection in their adult relationships. “Kick me! Kick me hard!” is the invisible T-shirt message that they are wearing. I’ve met quite a few people like that, and the sad thing is that after they’ve got their kicking, they bemoan the fact that life is so hard on them. But it’s so difficult to break out of such a behaviour pattern.
Maybe it has something to do with all my Pluto aspects but I see I’m more suspicious than everyone else who has commented. If a woman is texting my partner and he is saying he’s not interested I would be inclined to not believe him. I’m a Piscean with Neptune in the 7th house but I just don’t understand why anyone would lodge themselves between a couple if neither party is truly disinterested. There has to be some shred of interest shown somewhere, surely.
“There has to be some shred of interest shown somewhere, surely.”
Utterly disagree. If you have Libra, you tend to be polite, like say to men who sniff a person in the gym. I may be cordial but I can’t stand the son of a bitches. It’s not like they are not given clues, they just don’t care to see them and in fact that discuss this in the locker room - exactly how they intend to “get you”. It is annoying as hell to everyone but they don’t come right out with anything you can confront them with - they just waste the fuck out of your time.
Bob Dylan’s line in Positively 4th Street comes to mind:
“I wish that for just one time you could stand inside my shoes
And just for that one moment I could be you
Yes, I wish that for just one time, you could stand inside my shoes
You’d know what a drag it is to see you…”
Von, I also disagree. If you have ever been on the receiving end of this kind of “affection”, you would know that it can be entirely 100% unreciprocated. As to the situation you described, it would probably be best for the recipient to just ignore the text messages (if not outright tell the person to get lost). But it’s absolutely possible that responding to the texter only indicates simple kindness or politeness — being “caring” enough not to hurt the other person’s feelings. (I also have a ton of Pluto… but also a Libra Venus.)
satori, that makes a lot of sense…
tons of insight here…
as pinkminx notes, there are some people who don’t understand “go away” if it doesn’t fit in with what they’ve convinced themselves reality is. it doesn’t matter what you do.
my best bet has been to avoid feeding the monster. anything. draw your boundaries, be cold, cordial, and distant.
though that could be my aquarius talking.
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Some people are not smarter than dogs, unfortunately.
This has happened to us in the past. Twice. Both instances, we had to make ourselves less and less available. The more available you make to someone you’re not interested in, the more mixed-signals you send to them.
To them, you are available. And awesome. Probably can’t help the latter, but you can control the former.