Astrology, Murder And “Stigmatized Homes”

February 9th, 2010 @ 8:34 pm by Elsa

Astrology in real life

I started a new book and it caught my attention on the first page talking about how we as a collective get rid of houses where horrible crimes happen.  The author mentions, “The Oxford Apartments” where, “Jeffrey Dahmer” lived and some other notorious crime scene in England.  Dahmer’s place is a parking lot, another crime scene vacant and grass has been planted rather than replace the structure.

He also mentions the house where, “Jon Benet Ramsey” was killed and states it has changed hands several times and always sells far below it’s value.  Apparently there are various laws in various states around what must be disclosed to a prospective buyer about a property, they range from nothing to everything (including ghosts) and apparently in the UK, you have to disclose if you have had a falling out with the neighbors!

These houses are called “stigmatized homes” in the trade and it struck me because I grew up in not one but two stigmatized homes though I didn’t know it at the time.  I found out about 15 years ago when Annalisa and I went to the house where we were born. I always say I am from the desert and I did grow up there but I lived in town until I was 6.

In whatever case, the police wanted, Annalisa and I to tour the home where I was born (I think she may have been born in a house prior) and we agreed. Imagine our surprise when we pulled up in front of the house to find it had been condemned.  But get this:

It was the only house on the block that was condemned and not only that, it had a high fence built around it so we could not go in,  It was a small house on a small lot so the fence was just a few feet from the wall of the house, you could stick your hand through the fence and touch the red brick wall but what stunned us was the rest of the block was fine. Yes!  The houses had been kept up, all but ours.

Just to finish the story, we walked around the outside of the fence because these cops could not get a key to the gate for some reason and did our best to peer through the dirty and in some cases, missing windows and the most I can tell you is a house is bigger when you are little then it is when you are big.  The picture was taken in the backyard of that house, that’s Henry on the left of course and our oldest sister who is obscured.

Our house in the desert also became stigmatized and remains so to this day. It’s a Moon Pluto thing, obviously and I’ll tell you something: I don’t feel bad to have come out of that. Matter of fact, I feel normal.


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13 Responses to “Astrology, Murder And “Stigmatized Homes””

1.
SaDiablo
SaDiablo

I grew up in a haunted house. To my knowledge, though, there’re still people living there. I haven’t even driven past it in years.

Moon trine Pluto natally. :)

 
2.
Orlando
Orlando

Elsa- I do love your real life stories. Something tells me there is more to this one than meets the eye.

 
3.
satori
satori

our house in denver was the scene of a murder-suicide. my folks got it on the cheap but didn’t know why till the neighbors told them. I loved that house.

 
4.
Elsa
Elsa

The house I live in now is stigmatized as well. It wasn’t until I got here but you know… :)

::shakes head::

 
5.
wyrdling
wyrdling

apparently the house i lived in where i first went to school, where my sister was born, was one of those too. didn’t find out until long after we moved away.
didn’t like it much. but, then again, i spent nine years in the middle of revolutionary war guerrilla battlesites, too… there, they figure, people probably were killed all over the place.

 
6.
diastella
diastella

interesting - I lived in a house that used to be a’brothel’ in the 20’s - swear I could feel that decadent energy soaked in the walls - holding secrets.
You mention moon/pluto thing - I have a mars moon thing and the houses I lived in when I grew up were always full of strife - even now when we (my family of origin) meet, there is this intense underlying competitive edge - wether about ideas or money - winning really.

 
7.
diastella
diastella

oh, and on the ‘brothel’ house, as a single mother of 2, the neighbours were always eyeing me, especially when friends came to visit - and my friends are mostly guys - so I got the suspect eye. Can see how once condemned, always is it so.

 
8.
Charles
Charles

Yeah, this stuff creeps me out, as the previous resident of my current apartment died here and wasn’t discovered for days. Yeesh. I figure this place needs a Witch Bottle or maybe a Hex Work or some other sort of amulet. But what I really need is a better apartment.

 
9.
Elsa
Elsa

And my house in the desert - it got broke into and the guy got in my bed with me… and then there were the 2 other times I got broke to and the people shit all over and it that wasn’t enough, people also broke into my warehouse and shit all over there too.

It’s uncanny, I’ll tell ya.

 
10.
opal
opal

OMG I’m seeing a pattern. Don’t know the history of the house I grew up in, but six months after my parents moved out the ‘nice young lawyer’ they sold it to was murdered by protestant paramilitaries - turns out he used to act for the IRA.

When I went to university, I lived in a house opposite the corner where the Yorkshire Ripper was finally arrested.

When I lived in London I had a squat in a house where two people had been axed to death in a drugs thing. That whole street was built on top of a plague pit and the stories of what used to appear at night would fill a book.

A few years later, when I was working as a gardener, someone phoned me about a job. When he told me about this place I got a severe headache and felt really ill. Then when I turned onto the street the following week I started feeling ill again. So I went and worked there, and noticed that every time I went to do the front garden a black cat would appear, sit on the step and keep watch on the house opposite. I thought it was strange, but whatever. Then one day I got a call from the woman in the house opposite asking me to come and look at her place to see if I could help out there. So we’re sitting in her kitchen and she starts complaining that her dog won’t do its business in the back garden or anywhere round the house and she has to take it up to the local woods every time. Blah, blah. I go over the other house to carry on with my work and the cleaner arrives early. Blah, blah.

OMG she says, don’t go and work there, that’s where Denis Nilssen lived and they found all the bodies chopped up buried in the garden and in the drains.

I got Moon Pluto in easy aspect. Ha.

 
11.
Ro
Ro

Hmm, when I was younger, our family was one of the first African American families to live in a certain neighborhood. The neighbor directly across the street threatened to “skin that boy” talking about my older brother who was maybe 8 or 10 at the time for playing in his yard. Moon opposite Mars

Then, on the same street, across the street and two houses down the resident committed suicide in their garage. Moon opposite Pluto.

Also in that house, I was sexually molested by a family friend. Moon opposite Pluto (and probably a Mars issue, too)

Moon 5th house Taurus
Mars and Pluto (conjunct) 11th house Scorpio

Go. Figure. Not that this is normal or should happen, but these issues deal deeply with what happened in that house. Anger, and violence (Mars) suicide (by way of a person’s psyche and deepest power issues) Pluto, and sex (Mars and Pluto). How tragic. But I’m alright :)

 
12.
PallasAthena
PallasAthena

The home that our family lives in was built in the early 20s and is located in Bucks County, PA on the Delaware River. We’ve lived here for nearly 17 years. We always felt a ‘presence’ in the house of a male energy but it was an accepting and friendly energy. We later found out that a previous owner was despondent with his declining health and committed suicide with a shotgun in the field behind our home. I have Scorpio on the 4th house cusp with the Moon, Mars and Saturn there.

 
13.
Skye
Skye

Wow This interesting. The first house that I lived in as a child was stigmaized. Alot of violence occured but also both my sister and i got errie feelings as kids from living there (she is 12th house stellium and me and 8th house stellium). My sister used to see ghosts…actually men marching up and down the hall and I used to hear it and also ocassional running and sceams. We later realized the house was built on an old army barracks.

The violence of our lives in the house also created an attached stigma.. it too along time to sell the house. Most of us in the family have moon pluto aspects. mine is conjunct my sun and sqaure my moon. heavy stuff

 


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