Today the soldier learned of some lies someone told on him a few years ago. He also found out the lies were believed even though they seem outrageous to me, something anyone with common sense would be able to see through.
A few days ago I was talking to the Mechanic about some vicious lies someone told about me recently. He pointed out that what I was accused is not even possible. The implication was that a lie was foolish but I told him the lie was extremely effective it was widely believed.
Further to defend against it would likely cause even more damage so I just have to live with the fact people think I did something heinous and unethical which was not merely fabricated but a million miles remote from anything I’d ever do in reality.
I have written a lot about discernment when it comes to information you receive (Virgo) and perhaps with a packed 8th house, I am pretty suspicious but when someone tells me anything bad about anyone, my first reaction is to examine their motive because there always is one and it is never pretty.
Once you see what is driving the person, you are in a better position to weigh what you’re told and 9 times out of 10, the communication is vicious person’s attempt to use you.
I don’t know why people fall for this, do you?
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“Once you see what is driving the person, you are in a better position to weigh what you’re told and 9 times out of 10, the communication is vicious person’s attempt to use you.”
This says a lot about the media, our political system and the masses. It’s also why I keep to myself, practice discernment and offer my energy to those people and issues that earn and deserve my support.
That’s why I’m here!
Hate to say it, but I’m almost paranoid when it comes to being lied to. I question everyone, and have to remind myself that not EVERYONE is out to lie to me.
“Wait, is he just saying that to get out of…?” “Did she just make that up because she doesn’t want to…?”
I definitely have to struggle to give the benefit of the doubt.
Beats me. In my experience bad liars are freaking OBVIOUS. Especially when they tell you something that’s drastically out of character about the person. A good liar would tell you something that wouldn’t raise “Oh no, they wouldn’t” red flags.
If you have Scorpio (the soldier) or a packed 8th (me) it is easier for someone to put shit on you because you already make people wary.
In both the cases I am referencing, the gullible really should know better and it just makes you shake your head.
I am sorry to hear that, Grandonna. I hope it all sorts out soon.
I take my own experience by example: someone who I had a feud with tells a lie (or several) about me to a supposed friend of mine. This person I took as a friend knows me for several years and knows that the “pretty little story” that is being told to him is not true.
Either way, he chooses not to refute it or discuss it. He just nods along because he wants to remain friends with this person, maybe because it is easier to avoid a conflict or because this person might be more popular, more influent, more… whatever than I and he might have more to gain by taking that person’s side than to defend my reputation.
Although I think this is not the case for everyone, I believe some people fall for it or pretend to fall for it because sometimes that is the easier way to gain acceptance. Sometimes it’s all about the power play and people want to take the stronger side.
The few (but emotionally devastating) times this has happened to me, the reason people have fallen for the lies is because of a powerful need to be accepted by the liar. And it’s not just wanting the acceptance itself… the lie is the MEANS by which the liar secures the loyalty.
It’s a kind of test, and might go something like this: “Are you going to go with me… or with them?” But that’s not enough: “If you’ve going to be loyal to me, you have to prove it by being willing to swallow – and I mean swallow whole, without gagging – anything I want to shove into you, including something no one in their right mind would believe.”
Incredible power play, and very successful if it works. Once the gullible person gives up the power to think or see the truth, they become more and more dependent on the liar; they begin to need them for their sanity (as they go insane). Everyone sort of knows what’s going on, but can’t possibly risk making it conscious; by then, there’s too much to lose. I’d say the biggest loser is the one who enters this deal (the ‘gullible’), and not the person being lied about (who at least can live in reality and maintain their own integrity, even if no one else believes it).
- Um, obviously I’m talking about big, take-no-prisoners lies, the kind that break up families and loves and ruin lives. I don’t know the psychology of the more casual liars….
I think a lot of people are inclined to believe the worst and especially the salacious, look at Tiger Woods.
I don’t fall for it. I’m the same as you Elsa, I do a lot to try and discern any sort of bias/motive the person talking has and I think it’s also an 8th house thing with me with both my Sun and Mercury there.
Thanks, Marta I have recovered ..got my ass out of bed and did my taxes..gonna get 3000 dollars..the day has gotten better..I am a sensitive Pisces Moon..I get hurt by other people and their bull shat ..but I know the truth and that is all that matters..I am not gonna engage just gonna carry on with my business and stay out of the drama…No good deed goes unpunished..How timely was this blog..as always Elsa, Blessings 
if i hear someone talking sh*t about someone i usually don’t take it seriously unless:
1) they’ve proved to reliable and good with their word
2) they don’t have strong motive, or i know them well enough to know that they’re objective about these things
3) if i have an honest need to know (especially if i asked) and they’re trying to help
i saw too much of this going around between the girls in school to take too much of it seriously without significant backing. though when boys do it, they tend to go for the throat… and it carries more weight… maybe because of less tendency to gossip, overall?
i think some people fall for it because they’re looking for somewhere to project their shadow. seriously. if you can imagine someone else to be a dirty rotten whatever, you can misplace all those internal qualities -over there- and avoid self examination.
it’s the lazy way of dealing with the ugliness in human nature.
it’s easy to deceive someone who wants to be.
what wyrdling said.
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