Trancending The Landscape And More Remarks On Victimhood (Netpune Stuff Continued)
Astrology in real life
Annalisa said if someone called her a “nigger”, she’d be tempted to laugh in their face which was pretty much my response back then. I realize that is a foul word but I use it for authenticity and it is part of the Neptune angle here.
Just what is a nigger? It is derogatory term for a black person (depending on who uses it) but what is a black person? How black do you have to be to meet the criteria? My friend Ben is 1/2 black, is that black enough?
In the olden days when I was young, one drop of black blood meant you were black. I am pretty sure I have a drop of black blood in me but you get the point. There are no lines with this stuff at all. I would like to hear the arguments over whether Ben qualifies a black or not. I mean, it would be hysterical.
To this guy I was black – there was no question in his mind. To the average African American, the idea I am black is ludicrous.
In whatever case, it is like calling me any of the other things I get called. If I don’t relate – if it is not real to me, the effect of the attack or the insult is… there is no effect. You just seem crazy is all. You just seem to have a problem but I am not even sure of that because the fact is, I could care less.
When I go by someone on the street, muttering crazily, do I spend time trying to decipher their message? I don’t. To me they are just part of the landscape and landscape is very easy to transcend.
All this ties into the “victim” theme. If I want to be a victim because someone called me a nigger, I can certainly take that route but if I don’t take that route, glory is at hand. I mean, it’s just wide open and this is type of horizon that entices me so off I go.
What type horizon (even if it is a ditch) entices you?
117 Responses to “Trancending The Landscape And More Remarks On Victimhood (Netpune Stuff Continued)”
Same one. Freedom.
Sorry. That last link was cut off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqODoqJhumA&feature=video_response
Good lord! Just saw that my first post (which, hopefully, explained the link above) didn’t fly!
Acceptance with compassion is the horizon. Black humor (hence the uTube link) is my default ditch that helps me cope.
Sorry to have that seemingly random link appear in response to an excellent thread. Black humor, indeed! 
Sun transiting my 12th house: Clearly my actions are running counter to my conscious intentions. I feel discombobulated. 
I just read “when you see a big pot of crazy you don’t stir it.” I think I do tend to stir the little pots of crazy but when I see the industrial size I think I know better. perhaps I’ll get to a place where I can see “crazy” and walk on by. I think that would be a good idea to try.
“I think I do tend to stir the little pots of crazy but when I see the industrial size I think I know better.”
I’m sure I’ve been seen as “industrial size” crazy through the eyes of some people.
Still weaning myself from putting a lid on my own little pot of crazy. Enough of the KaBOOM!, already.
For the people behind the scenes who think I need a lecture: LOOK STUPID MOTHERFUCKING ASSHOLES
I am not a racist and either is my sister. Matter of fact she was married to a black man for 10 years, I deliberately moved to the most racially mixed city in the entire country we both testified against the KKK.
I am pretty sure our credentials around race APPRECIATION not tolerance beat yours so run along, little pontificating idiots and I mean SCRAM.
Oh. And on the “white privilege”, are you fucking kidding me? I grew up starving you asshole.
Next time you come around here, bring some fuckin’ brains or better yet, don’t come ’round.
damn girl . . . I want you at my back
Like I said. Freedom. Of speech, among other things. Go Elsa
Well… I was called a nigger. I did not call someone / anyone a nigger. You have to be able to read if you come to this site.
Jeez, if you knew my background, the idea I am a racist is just laughable.
Same with privilege.
Same with the idea I am insensitive.
But one thing I can’t stand is someone telling me what I can think or say or feel. I am an American, after all. The Land Of The Free.
So now I write the “n-word” in letters and they send a lynch mob after me. Oh the irony.
It’s impossible to dialog with “I’m a bigger victim than you are.”
What is really bothering me is how a person can read anything offensive into that post. It just isn’t. Clearly. It is intelligent and thoughtful, and deals with questions I have discussed myself with black friends. Is this more of the Neptune effect at play, or is it just lazy, lower-emotion, knee-jerk reactivity?
In which the Land of the Free becomes a PC Totalitarian State. God almighty.
Yeah opal.
I think I just got put out on the lawn again.
I have to add this to my other tags, I guess.
I am a whore, a bad mother, a dog abuser and now, a racist. Missing anything?
Stuff ‘em.
It’s hard if you value your reputation.
& self-wareness and integrity.
yes, but I like to think that if our hearts are in the right place, things will work out themselves
Wow – I sure missed alot around here today(!)
This is one of the many reasons I stay away from Facebook, Twitter, and whatever else – I only want to communicate with a small number of people. I have left many message boards in the past, appalled at how it was clearly nothing more than an outlet for some to spew their venom.
Sorry you had to be attacked like that – that sucks!
It sucks and I feel for you but try to think of all the free advertising you’re getting LOL.
lol and once they come and read the blog they’ll be like,”What? People are stupid.” and move on. It will all be okay
Wow. Just read the twitter thing. That is awful
As a minority myself, although I am not black, I want you to know that I have been called the n-word and resonate with this post. In my interpretation… you’re NOT telling people the n-word is not offensive. You’re just saying it doesn’t have the same effect on you if you’re not black! Or if you don’t see yourself as black.
The post is about Neptune and transcendence, not about African Americans.
I am sorry you were attacked in such a venomous manner. I appreciate the honesty of this post and agree that it was misinterpreted.
Sitara, yes. When I wrote about this originally people said they’d be outraged on many levels and I said at that time, the same thing I am saying now – I was not outraged. I was surprised as hell. I mean, I’d been told “I love you and my family will love you…”
I had also just discovered I looked Italian like a WEEK before this so I was just livin’ in this weird vibe as I so often am. I mean think about it. I was just told by my sister and others that I definitely look Italian – I was assured of this and now I am getting kicked out of the house because I am black? wtf?
So anyway, the remark at the end stems from the comments on the old writing and of course I have survived so much abuse, so far out on the continuum, calling me a name is just sort of… stupid.
I did see that person’s point but it was completely remote from mine and I just can’t cover every possible way someone might be offended by my writing or I will just have to kill myself and I have never been suicidal so I just keep going.
The way I see it, there is ample evidence of my character here, for good or ill. That’s that – read it and judge.
your whole response here sounds libra to me, too… if a touch mars-in-libra-ey… i have seen a number of libras bring out the swords when something strikes them as unfair or imbalanced and… the flip side of diplomacy is strategic attack… ( http://media.photobucket.com/image/two%20of%20swords%20tarot/seraphine3272/2_Swords_OUTSIDE_COPYRIGHT1.jpg )
here’s to this thing blowing over when people use their brains and read…
i mean, it could be someone just googling to find people using that word and attacking each one rather than actually reading anything…
there’s a deep irony to that happening with this post…
Sorry Elsa. Misinterpretation and projecting really really sucks.
I had a weird experience in a cemetery in early November, and I stupidly posted it to Livejournal. People were telling me “it didn’t really happen”. Ooooooooookay.
No, the person has read for 2 years and reports being pissed of 4 times, this time the worst.
I told her the truth – 4 times is very low from my perspective, I piss most people off once a week.
Back to the 80/20 rule. If you really read me or anyone else over time and like 80% of the posts, you’re doing pretty well.
I think it was just my day to die… again. But this is the first time someone tried to sick an army on me! However, I have to say I prefer the direct approach – attack in the open with your name on it then these assholes who email people with packs of lies about me. I give her that.
You’re saying “here i am, take it or leave it. Misinterpret if you must.” It’s a good trait to have.
jo – it is what happens anyway. You know the old saying, try to please everyone, you wind up pleasing no one.
People get fed reading here, they get smarter and their lives improve. I am not going to apologize for that.
But I do not mean to hurt people so when I do, I really am sorry. I mean, that is away from my agenda, 180 degrees.
oi, yeah, just read the twitter feed.
true, this is far more honest an airing of a grievance. though, in my mind, unusually public of one… *shrug*
happy days, still?
I know. I know you would never mean to hurt anyone.. you’re much too evolved for that. In fact, you’re the last person I would think of when it comes to being racist.. it shocks me too.
wyrdling, yeah I feel good. that was intense, don’t get me wrong – that was AWFUL, however I’m back centered and yes – happy.
Well, jo, I don’t know that I am evolved at all but I do know that when you decide to risk your life to testify against the KKK which causes you to have to live underground for 10 years, this is a pretty definitive statement.
I could care less what color you are, what I don’t like is assholes (of whatever color).
Outside of that, I terrifically enjoy being exposed to and working with all kinds of people as my blog (over 10 years) and my life (over going on 50) demonstrates not only consistently but relentlessly.
ack. my internet timed out just as I was posting the comment… what are the odds.. anyway.
haha. Oh that capricorn ascendant can be oh so modest. But from my impressions, you’re most definetely an evolved individual. I can say that wholeheartedly. And yes, this blog is sort of like a magical kingdom.. I can’t find what I find here anywhere else. Boards and all.
speaking of PC, this on Britanny Murphey:
“Father: Angelo Bertolotti. an Italian American racketeering criminal; has had little contact with her father since her parents divorced..”
aka a mobster, LOL.
Oh I get where she was coming from. I also get where you are coming from. I identify with both sides I suppose and I had a feeling something was gonna blow up out of this post. C’est la vie.
“C’est la vie.”
Easy for you to say, LOL. It’s my guts strewn around. Jeez, does anyone appreciate the risks I take here? Just wondering because I feel pretty damned taken for granted at the moment. Oh, it’s just Elsa getting shot at. one more day at the funny papers!
Well, yes. From what I can tell your readership is pretty loyal and even the ones who shoot at you do it with passion, meaning they care and their words are weighted. As far as what can be done in support well… I can’t fight for your words, or against your critic, because she had a highly personal opinion about her feelings on this one so none of its got anything to do with me. I can continue to read, support, and offer my peace though, which is: c’est la vie.
I feel your pain. I’m being slammed on various blogs created by a paranoid schizophrenic because I helped a woman get a restraining order against him. He’s messing with the petitioner, the judges involved, his lawyer who failed to win, me, his old psychiatrists back when he was committed, a woman who rented a room from him three years ago, and a kid who shot a paintball at his garage last year. Somehow, in his poor little sick mind, we have all conspired to make his life hell and he’s paying us back. Now he’s messing with my workplace and I have to get a lawyer. I’m a working single mom with no surplus monies to throw at a lawyer to defend myself.
The price you pay to do what’s right…
Really, Elsa, I couldn’t put myself out there as you do, knowing what I do about the internet and the lack of accountability out there. You must be a majorly strong person – I know you have the intelligence to assess the risks involved, yet here you are, plugging away day by day, telling the truth in plain language despite the resistance you’re bound to face. I admire the hell out of you.
really, before I get in another conflict with elfxys, I just want to say up front, right now this minute, I am in a very emotional state over something I read on on facebook 30 minute ago that triggered traumatic feelings about my daughter so if y’all don’t mind, put your guns down tonight and through Christmas for that matter. I would appreciate this.
gah, my bad. elsa, sometimes i forget about emotional aspects. have a good christmas. sorry– i wasn’t trying to add to the upset.
No guns here, Elsa (although maybe a snow shovel or two 
— you’ll always have my readership and support.
Any guns on Elsa at this point have to fight me, too.
Thank you, Del, elfxys, moonpluto. No shit I was reading facebook and someone made an innocuous comment and it just hit me like a brick from some reason. Jeez, I got my doors blown off, I can’t even tell you why.
You people on my fb, go see. It’s stupid, it just hit me out of the blue sky and now I am a wreck. The guy asked about it and I wrote him. Big mistake it make me feel a million times worse.
I will be back tomorrow when I have reconstituted. I don’t feel myself right now.
Gonna go look on your FB….
I tried to find you on facebook but was unsuccessful. my facebook is facebook.com/wakingwallaby if you feel inclined to add me! I’d love to have you as a friend on there
uhhhh i dont know why i used my youtube username on my facebook url. Maybe because i just had a bit to drink 
okay so my url is facebook.com/walkingiris. *whew*
The soldier: “You’ll be all right. You have Christmas spirit. Have a glass of wine, go to sleep and you’ll wake up okay in the morning with your regular spirit. Go out and get you a Christmas flower (poinsettia) when you’re out running around. It’s going to be okay…”
I have been the subject of unfair accusations over the past 7 years, I have lost whole social circles overnight, I have felt victimized and lied about, and treated poorly. But it lead me to a path of finding the childhood source of my victim mentality, and I have come a long way. Over the past few days, I have been listening to Don Miguel Ruiz’s audio CD’s, based on his book, “The Four Agreements” whose ideas come from the ancient Toltec wisdom of the native people of Southern Mexico. “The Toltec were ‘people of knowledge’ – scientists and artists who created a society to explore and conserve the traditional spiritual knowledge and practices of their ancestors. The Toltec viewed science and spirit as part of the same entity, believing that all energy – material or ethereal – is derived from and governed by the universe. Don Miguel Ruiz, born and raised in rural Mexico, was brought up to follow his family’s Toltec ways by his mother, a Toltec faith healer, and grandfather, a Toltec ‘nagual’, a shaman. Despite this, Don Miguel decided to pursue a conventional education, which led him to qualify and practice for several years as a surgeon.”
In his book, the 2nd agreement is
Don’t take anything personally – Nothing others do is because of you. What others say and do is a projection of their own reality, their own dream. When you are immune to the opinions and actions of others, you won’t be the victim of needless suffering.
This is simplified, but it goes on to explain…
PS, Great photo!!
Didn’t see what you are referring to, the innocuous question that threw you for a loop – let us know if you want…
I don’t know how to use fb. I thought you could see my comments I left on friends pages. Anyway, I am recovering. I don’t know wtf. It was I was coming around the corner on my bike, on the sidewalk in an old west town, turn the corner and BAM hit a train not supposed to be there. Bunch of snotty crying later I think I’m coming around. But anyway, I am human you guys. HUMAN.
While I do have a comment on this entire thing but only based on the things I have seen on this page. I am going to respect the wishes of Elsa.
Why post to say that? Well as I was reading, I came across Mari’s post and figured I was supposed to read this thread and be irritated by it just so I could be reminded of a personal truth I discovered yesterday: ‘It is illogical to take offense.’ Mari post nailed that for me again albeit in different words. It’s the same sentiment greatly expanded. Since it hasn’t quite sunk for me yet, I was guided here to be reminded. Thanks Universe!
I woke up thinking that this proves what I was thinking / wrote a few months ago. I just can’ tell personal stories on a blog anymore. I got in all kinds of shit trying to write about “Mary” too. There is no way it is worth it… not even close to being worth it.
The fact is you just can’t speak anymore, less people burn your hut and when they do, other people say, “C’est la vie”.
This is going to be a different blog going forward and for the record, to eat at someone’s table for 2 years and then call in an airstrike on them over something like this, to me is despicable.
Please, let me never make a friend like this again.
Regarding FB: I can’t see the comments you leave on other peoples’ pages unless they are also MY friends– At least I think that’s how it works–
Elsa, maybe that could be a paid portion of your blog? For the folks who WANT to hear your stories, ALL your stories, and you could reserve the right to un-subscribe and refund anyone as you see fit.
Certain words and ideas will always draw fire, it seems no matter what is being said– that’s one of the biggest challenges of being a writer i think. People just flip out, they don’t listen. It’s like a bull and the color red: they charge. I was working on a piece of writing recently and the whole time I was thinking I had to PC it a little or not be offensive. I used the word “ghetto” at one point and I kept having to do a doubletake, wondering who will this offend. I am not a PC person, but I am not an insensitive person either. But we have to be able to speak and write. I WISH people would give you the benefit of the doubt. It’s almost as though you give too much, from all areas of life, and yeah, people will burn you when they get an itch and a match. Anyway……
The great irony is that all who have responded negatively to this post have essentially lined up to be the victim.
“If I want to be a victim… I can certainly take that route but if I don’t take that route, glory is at hand.”
moonpluto, I agree with that last (itch/match) but this is firm decision. It’s just another era.
If I want to publish stories I will have to put them in a book. This is in my best interest anyway as I would be paid, but also the reader would have access to something comprehensive and be apt to judge me a lot more kindly (I think).
The thing is, I don’t want to publish a book either. I just don’t have the ambition which by now should be obvious.
I really am from a different era and mindset then most the people who read here. There are more of you then there are of me and frankly, you (as a collective) are scary.
Luckily I have very happy clients – 95% satisfaction, maybe even higher and you must realize there are astrologers who charge twice or even three times what I do, have a waiting list and I am pretty damned sure I am as good as they are and probably better.
Most important though is this: No one shoots at them.
It is a terrible thing in this society – people are just no longer taught or trained not to bite to the hand that feeds them.
On the flip side, you have people out there my age and older, “Spending their kid’s inheritance” and now my kid’s inheritance and my kid’s kid’s inheritance and when you put this all together and see it through my eyes, it is horrifying cold.
I am able to work one on one with people in a way that is real and warm and fantastically loving, giving and supportive in both directions in many (most) cases and I don’t know what to say besides these are the relationships I would like to focus on and give energy to.
Don’t feed the trolls, indeed.
and on fb, the guy asked, “What are you passionate about?”
I was going to answer it but then realized that I had no passion for anything and anything I wrote in that space would be bullshit.
My next thought was of the last time I HAD passion and it was before my daughter got sick and I could remember that.
This hit me HARD. I am in a situation where grief can sneak up hit in a wave. I have not grieved this badly in a year, almost 2 so it just… well it was like Lucy pulling the football out just as Charlie Brown is going to kick it and he lands on his back. Fucking fuck, he was not expecting that.
Anyway, he wrote me (fb friend) and I responded, gave him a snapshot of the situation. That was a horrible mistake – there is a reason I don’t talk about this and it’s that it is very bad for me.
And also the “get a man series”. This story problem is like the problem I had writing that (in blog form). I had to fight a bunch of people on every point. I mean every time I posted something people reacted with fervor – going to rip me to shreds over points just stated / not babied or dumbed down.
It is just impossible to tell a story or anything else under fire. I mean think about it. The storyteller stand up in group to speak and people take aim. That storyteller is going to beat feet. Storytellers are storytellers and one thing is for sure – I am a storyteller but I am not a motherfucker martyr!
It’s like dating a man. If they love and take care of me, I am a first rate gf or wife but if they beat me, I am gone. DUH.
How many times do you think I showed up at that guy’s house for dinner – the one who called me a nigger? Once, of course.
i hear what you’re saying
it sucks that you can’t be free to write what you want to write and what a lot of us want to read, without getting punished for it. But i understand why, totally– it’s exhausting to be villified and i’ve seen it over and over– (and i know i only see a small part cuz i don’t see behind the scenes or follow twitter)
A horizon that promises meaningful adventure and stability.
Last, you have a storyteller here, not an enemy. So when they round me up, tie me to a stake and start putting shit at my feet to burn me – well that is a terrifying experience. I can tell you this for sure because it just happened to me.
I am pretty sure some of the tweets were deleted. Frankly, I don’t want to go look / absorb/ take anymore in but I could swear some of what I responded to is no longer there.
Me on the phone to Annalisa in the middle of this.
“Well it’s happening so… what is the worst that could happen? 1000 black people call me a racist and bitch me out? 5000? 10,000? I don’t know. I suppose I can stand it,” I said, very aware in the moment, that I live in a black neighborhood for the most part. What if these were my neighbors? “Yeah, I don’t know. They called a pack of dogs on me so we’ll just have to see how much damage they can and will do.”
I’ll tell you something, my husband and I, my family? We are going to be fine. We would help some other people be fine but not if they’re going to shoot at us.
I mean, come on. Is there no common sense left in this world at all?
Elsa, I read this over and over again this morning–I had seen the original story back when I joined the blog a couple of years ago. I wonder if this idiot belongs to one of those “super-progressive” blogs, one of those where you can hardly say anything because whatever you say is judged as sexist, racist, ableist, on and on and on. These people don’t read stuff, they just look for anything that’s offensive to whoever or whatever’s “delicate sensibilities”.
Why bother saying anything if you have to tiptoe around people like that?
I would say not much common sense in this world at all, sadly.
But i agree with what you wrote last night that the soldier said. Get that Christmas flower…..
Before reading the Twitter comments, I couldn’t fathom how anyone could take offense at what you wrote. As it turns out, what offended her was something you never could have known – which she eventually acknowledged and didn’t blame you for in the end.
The big picture of what I saw happen is that your (painful) truth led to another’s (painful) truth being revealed. If you didn’t have to be caught in the crossfire, isn’t that kind of exactly what you would want?
But then there is the crossfire, which obviously is very real.. Like you’ve grappled with, people who puts themselves out there creatively (politicians to painters to bloggers, depending on the era) have to contend with public reaction. And someone who speaks powerfully, even moreso — You say that you are a provocative and strong writer. Provocative writing provokes. Strong writing elicits strong reactions. When you write about truth, you will get true responses back. It means you nailed something potently real. But it isn’t always pretty, because, as you know, the truth isn’t always pretty.
It seems what many, many creative and public figures come to realize is that you have zero control over how people react (Aquarius..). So, like you seem to be pondering, they have to choose, or balance, between self-expression and self-preservation. It’s what leads people like JD Salinger to withdraw from the world and modern day celebs to venture out only in baseball hats.
George W. Bush, on the other hand, was solid in the fact that his intentions were pure, and was able to stand in his truth. His tack was like the one you stated above: If I don’t relate – if it is not real to me, the effect of the attack or the insult is… there is no effect.
The latter is really hard to do. I have Neptune conjunct IC, so I get some of the same. But it’s now finally easier for me (after MANY years of sensitivity and much work, and maybe because the position is opposite the MC) to make myself invisible in the equation, when I truly am, when, like you said, the attack or perception has no relation to my real intentions. More and more, I can just witness the response as a neutral outsider. It has taken me a loooong time to get here.
Feeling personally attacked is never ok and never worth it, especially when what you give is a gift. In a big way, like you said, it is unfathomably rude. In another way, it is the biggest compliment a creator can get (artists like Damien Hirst have to create art with urine and crucifixes to elicit such responses). In the end, you have to draw the line and whatever you feel is 100% right.
Having read your stuff for many years now, Elsa, I have seen variations of this scenario more times than I can count.
It makes no more sense to me now than the first time I saw it. I’m sorry.
For the record, I appreciate the years I’ve had of reading and having the benefit of a glimpse into your perspective, afforded by a life full of experiences so far off the charts that I can’t begin to imagine – I’ve only seen shavings off the iceberg, not even the tip.
I am always awed and amazed when people have been to the brink and back and can maintain a warm, open heart despite the million and one reasons they could have shut down. I also pay attention, because I know there are lessons there and I am being gifted to get glimpses without having to go through the Hellish experiences to earn them.
Thank you.
On the super progressive thing – maybe but it really doesn’t matter. I don’t want to deal with stuff like this. I have people to help and it takes me off task.
It can be compared to people who want to argue the validity of astrology. Some people love that stuff, to me its a waste of time.
If the climate is such that people all where whistles around their necks which they blow when others step or even seem to step out of line – well that’s too oppressive for someone like me.
I’ll go on the black market, I’m not stupid.
If you want to read crap and PC drivel get yourself a subscription to Newsweek and leave me alone!
Elsa I love you to pieces. I’m sorry people were so awful to you. You know I have strong feelings about race, and I just want you to know I absolutely admire and adore you in every conceivable way. I love your depth, your sincerity, your honesty, your hardwork and your self esteem.
If I can do something for you, let me know, SERIOUSLY.
SENDING LOVE AND CHRISTMAS HAPPINESS TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO!
[i]If the climate is such that people all where whistles around their necks which they blow when others step or even seem to step out of line – well that’s too oppressive for someone like me.[/i]
They do. I don’t belong to the blog in question.
They recently had a discussion about BDSM, and there was someone censoring themselves for making an “ableist” comment. Yes. In a discussion about that.
I closed the tab.
Well when the gestapo comes I have already said I will be one of the jews who goes to live in the woods. The thing about these things I say, is I mean them.
Elsa, I couldn’t find you on FB.
I am so sorry you feel the need to censor yourself.
I have pulled totally back on posting anything personal on FB and Twitter. There’s just no privacy there. Any nitwit in the world can delve into your personal life, so you have to consider the source. Even worse since the privacy changes.
Nitwits are right.
I have a Livejournal and a FB page. I very rarely update on FB. And over on LJ, there’s a couple of people who friended me out of nowhere.
I post on this alt-fashion board, and I put up a couple of pics of my outfit. Next thing I knew, there were new “friends” on my friends list.
Uh, no. So between that and the paranormal debacle, I decided I don’t feel like sharing anything with anyone. This was why I decided against Twitter. F that shit.
Let me get this straight. I am not going to censor myself. I am just not going to talk. I am pretty sure I can have a great astrology blog anyway. We’ll see.
xoxox
No Elsa, I like your cussing and deep thinking!
I don’t mind writers who “playing it safe”, but most of the times the people that do bore me!
Well it is just stupid. Go tell Van Gogh what he can and can’t paint Fuck you!
Go see your one black, one white, one asian girl groups by Disney and never have anything spring up organically again.
That is exactly where we are headed. Sit down, Janis Joplin! Your breasts are small! Your sexual characteristics are not enlarged. Nexxxxxxxxxxt!
Oh God, I love Van Gogh, he’s such a rebel (in a good way)!
And sadly, Hollywood has turned jaded and boring. I don’t care much for any of today’s Disney stars.
good luck… i’m going to miss the wisdom that’s not safe for the savage ‘net, but i certainly understand this decision. the idea of facing that kind of shooting gallery is one reason my virgo doesn’t feel comfortable showing off… i’ve been made a target of enough in my life and i’m very cautious how i’ll open myself up to be seen. think i’ve gone too far into hiding, at points. but i have neptune square the ascendant and people throw weird stuff at me… or assume i’m an easy target…
and, hey, if i really want to hear what you have to say about certain things, i could always pay for another consult, right?
and then you have a better idea who you’re talking to…
saturn in libra, huh?
i respect that you’re standing up and drawing your line in the sand for what you feel you need.
i hope someday you can find your passions again.
for what it’s worth… i’m also hoping this doesn’t provoke more sinking…
happy can be a right challenge…..
Janis Joplin was awarded the “ugliest man on campus” award from the university near where she used to sing a lot before she got popular. even then people were pretty nasty…….
There is no sinking. I don’t have a sinking gene. I feel really good. I told satori, it’s like when I decided to paint the house – that was it. I was going to paint the house.
“And if I don’t know where to start or what color, I will figure it out and if Dora craps and vomits while I am doing it, I am still painting the house…”
That is how I feel now. I am going to the woods and staying there until (when and if) society restores itself to sanity or at least something I can tolerate.
And if I am the one who is intolerable, that’s fine too. I will be in the woods and out of your way.
I also felt like this when I was 15 and left home. I could just not survive in the environment even one more day.
Sometimes decisions are made for you and if you have Libra, there is great relief in that.
Janis Joplin had more talent and heart in little toe then most have in their entire body so whatever… we remember her. Deny her until you are blue, she can still not be denied.
Hi Mari, I LOVE the Four Agreements! I was trying to tell someone about these simple life principles just the other day, and they *did not get it*. They made me out to be some sort of idiot. Well, at least I know its not about me, and they are the ones who have to live with themselves! We can only strive to do our best and treat others with kindness.
Shit. I finally find a place where someone speaks my language and this happens. Is there anything I or we can do to help, Elsa? xxx
you’re funny elsa. you update this blog 5-10 times a day (or more), you write hilarious stories, you entertain us, you teach us astrology…you give out TONS of energy through this blog. and yet you say you don’t know what you’re passionate about! well i’m not inside your head so i don’t know how you feel but i for one feel the energy of what you do here everyday. so if you aren’t passionate you are by far the most rousing, rollicking, fun, and crazy unpassionate person i’ve ever met. many people would be doing well to be this “unpassionate” =)
opal, I don’t think so. This is something society is doing to itself and I’m just not going along. I made a vow to God when I was a teen. Do you think I would break my vow to God? That I could? ::laughs::
I am going to speak freely and I am not going to turn over my mind over to the collective fad so if this requires I lie low then I lie low.
Why stand up and be trampled by an angry mob? Makes more sense to lie in the bush and let ‘em run by since they’re headed for a cliff anyway.
I am going to try to maintain this blog from a defended position. I don’t know how yet but I am going to try and if I can’t do it, I will nuke it.
In other words if this blog is overrun by assholes I will blow it up.
We are just going to have to see what happens and since we have astrology we know this is entirely unpredictable. But that I maintain my integrity IS predictable.
venus – I just saw your comment.
Last night the soldier was able to identify the source of my loss of passion and I had that misidentified. I have definitely lost passion but the reason is otherwise then what I was thinking.
As for my personality, thank you but I think it is pretty hideous actually in comparison to other Elsas I have known. I am pretty sure stepping outside the line of fire will improve my mood, LOL.
Unfortunately my country has become a hostile territory where people stretch their skin over their faces, do weird math and tell others what they allowed to say and think. It’s a little much.
I understand. Thanks for making such a clean and clear stance.
“In other words if this blog is overrun by assholes I will blow it up.”
The world is full of assholes AND sheep! The funny thing is that they are sheep and they’re too arrogant to admit it. Or they’re too blinded by the crowd to see that they’re wrong. They think everything that is popular is right.
Sorry, I had to rant. People’s thick-headedness makes me angry sometimes and today was one of those days!
I’m to the party late here but I had just a bit to say.
It’s true, I was married to an African American man for ten years and I considered us a couple, not “interracial.” We were two people in love.
I wore a wire in our fight against the KKK and I have to say that I know Elsa better than most anyone and she fought with her heart and soul, no question about it. She was moved to tears at times and fury at others as we gathered evidence/fought the KKK we had come upon in our lives.
She believed in what we were doing and kept at it for years, giving evidence and well, CARING.
Elsa is not a racist. Never, ever, at racist.
Annalisa
Annalisa – thanks.
It is amazing to me how reality can be disappeared in a blink when it reality in our cases is as big as the tallest mountain you can find which is another thing common around here that astounds.
“I have liked you for 7 years, Elsa but not anymore,” they say as the door hits them on the ass on the way out.
In that single sentence they erase 7 years of your work and effort, your entire investment, their entire investment and this is not crazy?
That is crazy.
“Thank God, I am not married to that person.”
That is what I think when they go. Seriously.
Hang out with someone for years and years, eat their food, soar off their energy and then throw ‘em under the bus. Wonderful! I am sure these people go off to live marvelous lives.
“What did you do in your life?”
“Well mostly I was an asshole.”
As the soldier put it recently around it eventually catching up, “Of course it’s going to bad for her (someone in our REAL life). She’s got some real suffering ahead. Look how hard it is for people who try. She is going to suffer all right. You don’t get away with that shit, P, you know that you don’t get away with shit in this life…”
I got away with knocking a fire hydrant off with my Frito-Lay truck. That’s about it for me.
Sending my support Elsa.
“I am pretty sure I can have a great astrology blog anyway.”
I agree 110%, everything you do has integrity. I’ve never gone hungry here…I’m fat and happy, thanks.
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great post, i agree… while we can’t necessarily predict who or what will come our way, including people without integrity.. we can choose not to make mudpies with them in their sandbox. i mean sometimes you will inevitably feel victimized, but it can always be transcended. you still attach if you remain in that state..