Saturn In Libra: Humility In Relationship – Got Some? Probably Not
Astrology in real life
Last night I was at karate with Vid when the soldier called to tell me he has a flat tire. He said he was at one city heading to another where he could get the tire fixed and he was in a hurry.
Not knowing I wasn’t home, he wanted me to find all possible stops (rest areas and the like) between the two cities because he was going to have to stop and inflate the leaking tire en route.
He went to tell me the rate at which the tire was leaking as he had calculated it precisely. I am not sure what all he did but I can tell you when we got to work on this he was having me multiply the mileage by .571 to figure out how frequently he would need to stop… he’s a math guy.
He had some other things to manage but said he would call for the info so I left karate with Vid in class, went home and gathered the information then went back to karate with notes in my hand.
The soldier was in a position where he was going to have to drive overnight. This in spite of the traffic jam problem the night before that left him with 5 hours sleep. Get it?
He got up yesterday with 5 hours sleep, was unloaded laid, dispatched late and now on this run with a flat tire and blah, blah.
The point I want to make is the soldier’s life is like this and I mean it is like this virtually everyday. I am telling you he does not get 2 days in a row where nothing happens to thwart him and it has been like this literally since the day he was born. He was born with Saturn in aspect to Mars and Mercury, see? This is why he had to go through boot camp 3 times AND be a ranger AND win the best soldier in the world before Special Forces would even look at him. He had to wait 30 years to be with the woman he loves come to think of it but anyway, as I scrambled to help him scramble which I do every day of my life now I recalled a conversation I had with satori some years ago.
I told her that the soldier’s life was like this, it always had been and always would be and I thought I’d better think about it real well before I jumped in. He’s specifically asked me to do this by the way. He made it abundantly clear he did not want another failed relationship so the situation was very clearly this: In for a penny, in for a pound. After a month or maybe two of deliberating, I opted in and I have obviously not regretted this even though his life is brutal and I have to endure it with him on a daily basis. But what hit me was the chore he was born with.
How do you talk someone into getting into this kind of boat with you? Can you imagine? There is an outrageous handicap here, it becomes very apparent very quickly. No one wants to get in the foxhole with him because they know if they do it will be punishing however some DO get in the foxhole with him and why is that?
I think it’s because he is so developed in so many ways. The worst of the war is coming to HIS foxhole, however he’s got the best jokes, he never whines, he never expects anyone to do anything he would not do himself, he never brings anyone around him down, makes them pay with his bad mood or otherwise burdens people. On the contrary he cheers and supports them and it occurred to me last night this is a classic case of hardship building character and if you value character then you are not going to hesitate to associate yourself with him.
Last night I wondered how he framed his handicap because he definitely knows he has one. Does he realize he’s got one hell of a rickety boat he’s got to talk someone into sailing with him? I’d say he does.
In whatever case we get through these clunky blockaded days which occur may 6 days of every 7 and have as much fun as we can which brings me to another point.
I did take Henry’s truck to the store when I 10 years old and I bumped into some things on the way. HQ observed I am still doing the same thing on this blog and the one prior. He said, I went from here to there and here banging off the walls or various people and things so you can see an odd compatibility between us. I mean, I can go from karate mom to fleet management to blog writer to counselor to gym rat, health nut, cook with very little wear or tear or fallout.
I realize this is long and rambling but I think it is interesting especially when you compare the soldier to someone who thinks that being associated with them is so nifty.
LOLOLOLOL ::snort::
Saturn in Libra.
Humility in relationship.

32 Responses to “Saturn In Libra: Humility In Relationship – Got Some? Probably Not”
Not rambling at all. Poignant and real and true. Still happy for the two of you. Love is sharing the burden, an astrologer once said to me….
Elsa, this was brilliant – one of your best.
I do see, I think, the humility in relationship theme you’ve expanded on for us. I think it’s a HUGE stumbling block when couples don’t do the kind of evaluation and acceptance you’ve just shown us – many of us go into relationship with certain expectations and ‘blinders’ intact for the things we don’t want to see about ourselves or our partner, and then we have the nerve to be disappointed and crushed when that person doesn’t fit the standard we’ve dreamed up for them! We have the nerve to focus on the parts of that person that make our lives difficult or complicated or whatever and start picking away at them to make them change to suit us. I know this has been one of my relationship patterns, anyway, and I am stunned by the power of your message.
I hear you, Elsa, loud and clear. Thanks for this very important lesson and for sharing your life with us. You are soooooo smart.
I only recently discovered you and so glad I did. I’ve been lovin’ your blog & videos. Anyway, I know just how the soldier feels. I was born with a Grand Cross in fixed signs, and my life is one catastrophe after another, never ending. If it weren’t for astrology, I don’t think I could go on.
btw, Congrats on your new marriage! Wishing you a lifetime of bliss.
Probably my Saturn in Cap….I understand this through and through. The complexity and depth of soldier’s character (builth through hardship) … could only be totally appreciated by a woman who has been there herself. You may not have saturn aspecting your mars (or you might, i don’t know) but you would roll over in boredom with a man less than this. And rickety boats make for great adventures.
Oh lindsey, hell yeah. But the thing is, I don’t have saturn on my Mars but I have HIS Saturn on my mars so it really is something that impacts me… it is a responsibility that has to be assumed and accepted. I can’t tell you how profound the effect is. I KNEW I was signing on to something and boy does it play. Rare is a day I don’t make mention of his latest impediment to satori. I don’t go on and on, I just mention because it is a relentless part of our lives.
MY experiences are different flavored and especially the mars mercury stuff. Mine is in the 9th house, go, go, go.
As for the problems I bring to his life… they are Saturn Neptune flavored.
that would make an excellent thread, elsa: astro problems we bring to this life. I’m going to start it up, thanks for the idea!
I am very moves by the soldier’s life and his character but nit as much as I am moved by your tremendous LOVE for him. Just remarkable…
Scorpio Moon, strawberry.
Gloria, I do love him and it’s Venus Neptune in action. I can transcend anything and I am forced to on a daily basis because his life is so routinely grueling.
You would be AMAZED at the array of things he encounters and has to cope with EVERY SINGLE DAY but there is just no sense talkin’ about it – this is a way of life. But it is a hard life being near him because it does affect me and in fact I bet it affect satori who has heard a line or two of what he is dealing with each day, almost daily for years now. In fact I will invite her to offer her impression because I am sure she has one… on both our lives for that matter.
I once asked satori what she thought the other mothers thought as they watched me try to take care of my daughter as she failed.
“You’re the mother the bad thing happened to,” she said.
I’ve not heard that better put.
In whatever case she would be better able to tell you in layman’s terms what she is aware of him enduring which is something I can’t do because I am in it… and various other impediments.
he is the ox that pulls the plow,
that furrows the field,
that grows the corn that feeds us all.
we could go out
and pick up the sharp rocks
that lodge in his hooves
and cause him to pull harder
to keep the furrows straight
but we sit inside and laugh at our nothings
that calm us,
fat on his corn.
but she walks behind
throwing her weight upon the handles,
slapping the flies from his hide.
Great post! Really on point and just what I needed to read today.
“Real loyalty, real friendship, is being able to feel the pain of others and to go to hell for them in order to help them go to heaven.” Yehuda Berg
that’s love Elsa. this made me cry.
thank you for the poetry, satori. it was beautiful.
i do believe those saturn flavored relationships, with the biggest workload, the biggest worries and hardship, also can offer the biggest rewards.
gorgeous, satori
that poem gives me the chills. thank you satori!
wow Satori
satori, made me cry, too
Wow. Just wow. Thanks for this, ladies.
That poem and the quote by Yehuda Berg bring me peace. Oddly soothing and calming.
It’s strange: I want to “swat the flies” and reach through hell to bring others heaven, but I don’t know how well I do. From the feedback I get, it seems not well enough. *big sigh* Ah, well… .
Thank you, satori and Eleven. *hugs both*
Satori, that was amazing!
a saturn t square shouldn’t be feared. but it’s certainly not for people who aren’t willing to work for their needs and dreams… (ok, maybe the dreams bit is my 11th house saturn speaking.)
methinks it isn’t worth having if it isn’t worth working for. and if you have worked for it, you are well aware of how valuable it is.
Satori, you have a gift. It comes through daily.
Beautiful post.
And a beautiful poem, satori.
Satori, you’re a great artist, I love this poem!
we’re a bunch of saps. this whole post/thread got me misty.
also enlightening, the heads up on saturn/mars for me really began to click here.
elsa, are “easy” aspects with saturn (trines/sextiles) still challenging b/c of saturn? or is it more of a solid foundation situation?
I agree, a lovely poem, satori. Make me think of mary oliver (famous poet)
Anyway, saturn. Saturn IS harsh. I have saturn/mars sextile. And saturn/moon trine. Also saturn opposing neptune; also saturn square venus. It’s in my 9th, in taurus.
It also sextiles my sun and mercury
Saturn transits change my life in uncomfortable ways. Even if the result is life-saving, life-changing, the time it takes is deeply deeply painful, hard, harsh, un-nerving.
I don’t have daily impediments but I do have blocks, big big blocks (issues, for lack of better word) that I don’t know how to unblock. And these blocks do affect my daily life but I can still cruise along and have good days, smooth flowing.
thank you!
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