The Saturn Pluto INTENSE CRUSH, Dirty Grave, Circa November 2009

June 19th, 2009 @ 6:40 pm by Elsa

My eye on the sky

This is a heads up for people with planets at the early degrees of the Cardinal signs. Pluto is going to be in Capricorn squaring Saturn in Libra and if you happen to have planets at the early degrees if of the Cardinal signs (or very late mutable) you are going to feel this big time.

The first exact crush is @ 1 degree Cardinal in November, 2009 and I have been coaching a good number of clients so that they can not only endure this but work it to their advantage. In short you have got to accept and ultimately marry the “dark” with “reality” because you are sure to be in it, up to your neck.

There is no sense worrying but what you can do right now if you are in this group, is accept the fact pressure and intensity is going to increase between now and then.

You’ve got to work (Saturn) to tap your deepest resources (Pluto) and if you will do this you’ve can effect a real (Saturn) transformation (Pluto) but there is no levitating about it.

This is work in the dirty grave that is your psyche… that you would normally put off on the other.

If you come around here, I will try to help you with my morbid jokes. I mean, let’s face it. If you had to work in a dirty grave who would you rather work ‘long side of, hmm?

::smiles::
::laughs at her own joke that isn’t even a joke::

See?

Diversion, bay-bee! It’s priceless!

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58 Responses to “The Saturn Pluto INTENSE CRUSH, Dirty Grave, Circa November 2009”

1.
moonpluto
moonpluto

Thank you

 
2.
randamandar
randamandar

Elsa- You are freaking me out! Did I have a past life grave digging or stacking skulls and bones in the paris catacombs? Moon in Cancer, Mercury in Libra.

 
3.
Sonia
Sonia

Oh yeah, I have Mercury at 1’57 Cancer, and Saturn at 28’48 Pisces. Do I qualify? I think so. I’m up for the ride though.. could even be fun reinventing myself.

:)

 
4.
Haniya
Haniya

crap.

 
5.
Lilly
Lilly

Oh goody…like I need that on top of all the crazy transits I’m going thru right now? ;) S’ok, I laugh at everything anyway…I’m the queen of inappropriate laughter :-D

Question – how far out is “early”?? I know this will touch on both my Moon & Pluto, but I’ve got Jupiter at 7 Cap & my Sun is at 8 Aries – are those too far out or just enough in?? (great, now my dirty mind is making fun…LOL)

 
6.
von
von

What degrees are considered “very late”?

 
7.
kashmiri
kashmiri

von i think 20-39 degrees are considered mid-late.

 
8.
Elsa
 
9.
Jilly
Jilly

hahaha f me.

 
10.
Elsa
Elsa

January- February 2010, another crush @ 4 Cardinal..

July August 2010 – Crush @ 3-4 cardinal…

 
11.
Lupa
Lupa

I’m curious too about how far out it will be felt. John has a 5 degree Aries moon so Pluto will square it before long. Wondering how soon he’ll be noticing that and damn I sort of wish I hadn’t just seen that coming.

His ex wife has a 5 degree Capricorn moon and 0 degree Cancer ascendant. (It’s all friendly so I have her birth info.) Leaves me a bit worried about their son, my step son during this transit.

I’ve got nothing big happening that I can see. No early cardinal or very late mutable stuff.

 
12.
Elsa
Elsa

Lilly, I say, take notes. 2010 more has your name on it…

I would give this a tight orb, personally. like 2-3 degrees in each direction would be the epicenter. If you are at 7, that’s your neighbor getting hit, however you are probably close to your neighbor so impacted as well.

 
13.
kashmiri
kashmiri

ha ha imeant 29 degress, DUH!

 
14.
Del
Del

Lordy, I’ve got Saturn and Sun at 2 and 5 degrees Aries, Moon in Libra after that at 7. I knew this was coming up but wasn’t really getting the flavor of it yet. Glad to have Elsa coaching us through this and lending her wicked humor.

 
15.
lindsey
lindsey

mars 7 cancer
moon 28 pisces
venus 28 aries

ok, i’m working with you ….;-)

prepared for action

 
16.
kvk
kvk

My youngest son has Sun at 2 Capricorn and Moon at 27 Pisces. This poor kid’s been through it the last year but such a trooper, I’m so proud of him. He’s actually on his way to Chicago to try out for American Idol. Not something he’d have done pre-Pluto, but the kid is becoming fearless.

 
17.
Del
Del

Wow, kvk, good luck to him!

 
18.
Lupa
Lupa

No early cardinal in my chart except 4 degree Cancer Venus. Duh. I have to work really hard to ignore the big stuff I think. :p

 
19.
Katey
Katey

Wow, another thing to add on to the Saturn return hoopla this fall.
I will have – Saturn conjunct Desc opposite Uranus conjunct Asc, Saturn square Pluto at MC plus 1st Saturn return. Also natal Venus at 3 Aries, natal moon at 8 Capricorn. Think the moon is spared at this point. Should make for interesting times!!

 
20.
GW
GW

Sun – 1 Aries
Jupiter – 6 Capricorn
Pluto – 1 Libra

Moon – 27 Gemini

Thank you Elsa, I will definitely be coming around here.

 
21.
Bella
Bella

Ouch – moon is 1 degree cap and sun is 29 degrees virgo. Will have just finished uni exams and having to work full time before the final year – clearly going to be full on…

 
22.
Lilly
Lilly

Thanks for the heads up, Elsa! I will definitely be taking notes :)

 
23.
von
von

Fortunately, I have the Moon at late Cardinal and the Sun at early Mutable but I do have Jupiter in Virgo at 29°.

 
24.
von
von

I just noticed my Number One Son has Aries Sun at 1° and Cancer Moon at 2°… as well as Pisces Mercury at 26°53′, Sadge Neptune at 29° and True Node at 29° Gemini.

 
25.
sonah22
sonah22

Sun Cancer 0
Moon Aries 8
Mercury Gemini 29
Neptune Cap 0
Venus Cancer 2

SHITTTT.

 
26.
kvk
kvk

Thanks Del!

 
27.
Jessica
Jessica

What Jilly said.

I’m going to need help!!

 
28.
aml
aml

Pluto Capricorn squaring Saturn in Libra….

venus, n.node, & asc 28sag to 5 cap
pluto 5 libra
saturn 4 cancer

ok- marry the dark with reality, hmmmm
so take secert dreams (venus n.node)and make them real(saaturn) with a partner(on the dsc) and transform (pluto)life abroad (in the 9th)…possibility?

 
29.
beth
beth

OH yay! My Saturn-return should be about then. Whole pile of planets in Libra 12th.

Should be interesting for me and many others. Here’s to comic gravediggers!

 
30.
Piya
Piya

Right on schedule. I knew it would be tough, with the things I’m planning, but it’s good to know … well, that it will be tough.

 
31.
neva
neva

Oh hell.

Jupiter/Uranus conjunct at 0 degrees Libra in the first. Pluto’s been transiting my fourth forever now.

Well, forewarned is forearmed.

 
32.
opal
opal

Elsa, does this also apply to the angles? – I’ve no planets there, but all the angles are around 0’28 and 0’38 Cardinal

 
33.
Elsa
Elsa

opal – HELL YES. If Pluto goes over an angle – total life change. Saturn? New cycle / marking time.

 
34.
Lunalie
Lunalie

Crap. So this will take toll on my Aries sun as it’s in the earlier degrees.

I’m already feeling a sort of “darkness” to begin with. Yiiikes.

 
35.
Lupa
Lupa

I definitely felt it when Pluto crossed my ascendant in late Scorpio several years ago.

 
36.
opal
opal

Thanks Elsa

 
37.
LisLioness
LisLioness

Venus is at 29 Virgo, Uranus at 6 Libra.

Venus hasn’t seen any action in years, and now she’s being whammed with no end in sight. First Pluto (square), then Uranus (opposition), and Saturn (conjunction) is coming up.

Yikes!

 
38.
Korellyn
Korellyn

lol, I’m flashing back to the gravedigger’s in Hamlet, which had me laughing my ass off when I saw it live, morbid or not. Thanks for the heads up by the way, cause I’ve got a moon/merc conjunction in the early degrees of cancer (5 & 7, if I recall correctly) that’s already feeling this transit, and if it’s just going to get worse, at least it’s better to know that ahead of time.

 
39.
LisLioness
LisLioness

This square is going to hit my 6th house. T. Saturn is there already, and Pluto/Venus/Uranus are there natally. I’m already feeling a lot of pressure about what I’m going to do when my little one is in school full time. I haven’t worked full time in a decade. I still am not sure what I want to do with the rest of my life. Hubby wants to quit his job, focus on building his side business, and have me carry the household (benefits, etc.)

It’s an awful lot of pressure. And with all these transits coming up, it’s going to consume my focus. I have a lot of decisions to make, and honestly, it’s overwhelming.

 
40.
wyrdling
wyrdling

10 degrees away this fall, but much closer next year.
well, pluto will be paying me a visit soon soon enough, and when i get my natal pluto square in the mix, well, that should be something.
i’ll call this practice.

 
41.
eris
eris

and the saturn is going to be inconjunct. sounds like an interesting push/pull. maybe finally give me a sense of what my chiron feels like.

 
42.
mudlikesubstance
mudlikesubstance

Noooooo. I don’t wanna. Already stressed to the max and now THIS?

Can I please throw a tantrum beforehand? The fall one isn’t the bad one but oh boy oh boy… saturn transit natal pluto conjunct and saturn square natal saturn…while pluto square natal pluto .. you get the picture.

natal pluto is 4 degrees libra. oooohhhh owie.

 
43.
Shannon
Shannon

Haha I just looked at this again.

Venus at 4 Cancer. Pluto at 29d21′ in Virgo, which is tight in with that Saturn if I’m looking at this chart right. Jupiter at 6 Cap.

Basically this all hits the T square in my natal chart. (2h Cancer, 5H Libra, 8H Cap)

I can see I’m gonna need some boots here *grin*

 
44.
user
user

This makes total sense. Pluto is on my IC in early Cardinal, being squared by Pluto in Cap and also being transited by Saturn in Libra/IC. Natally, opposite Moon and square Mercury. So transiting Pluto is making a grand cross.

I just realized that my grandmother will almost certainly die during this time (not that I want her to, she’s just very, very old).

There is a Pluto signature that runs down the maternal line in my family. I have known for a while that this signature will end with me. My grandmother’s death will free up a lot of family energy that has been tightly supressed for a long time. It ain’t wholesome energy, but I guess I wouldn’t have been born with Pluto on the IC if I weren’t supposed to get in that grave.

Thanks, Elsa.

 
45.
cappygolucky
cappygolucky

Hey Elsa,
I am feeling it….

I have Sun and Jupiter at 5 and 2 degrees of aries
Moon and Pluto at 1 and 7 degrees of libra

Whats going on right now ?

Well, I work for a nursing agency where the work has gone dry.
Lucky for Austudy…….(student support)

Just finished my first year of Uni to become a Nurse.

Possibly expecting my first child in June next year 2010

Had a huge blow up with my brother caused by his wife.

I feel pressure to get a routine job to support us, because of the impending new life.

All of this was inconceivable 6 months ago, I feel like my life has accelerated leaps and bounds, and im relishing the challenge.

 
46.
julie
julie

Elsa, regarding the Intense Crush at 1 degree in Nov., if I have a natal planet at 1 degree, would I look to that planet, the house it is in, and the house it rules to see where this square will effect me in my life?
Thanks very much for your service, Julie

 
47.
little lou
little lou

uhhhh i’m getting scared about this!!!!!

 
48.
Elsa
Elsa

little lou, the only thing you can do with fear is face it and if not you face being crippled by it.

 
49.
little lou
little lou

thanks :) i will stay strong!!

 
50.
TwentyTwo
TwentyTwo

Sun Aries 3
Venus Aries 00
Uranus Capricorn 5

I don’t know enough about astrology but I also have…
Lilith Libra 4
Chiron Cancer 2
Vesta Capricorn 5
Fortune Aries 0
south node aries 0

Any advice/analysis is welcomed and greatly appreciated.

 
51.
mudlikesubstance
mudlikesubstance

yup missed this. definitely needs boots. Add to the above Saturn (natal) 1 degree Cancer. Helloooo am I struggling.

I hope others are weathering this better than I. I am very close to blowing and it won’t be nice and I REALLY don’t want to be that person. But I need boundaries, please dear universe, a bit of peace and quite to hide in or hide behind my boundaries and lick my wounds and heal for just a tad. Please and thank you. :D

 
52.
Shannon
Shannon

@mudlikesubstance – I feel ya. I’m doing more coping than actually DOING this week. But keep breathing. <3

 
53.
mudlikesubstance
mudlikesubstance

that’s an excellent way of putting it. coping instead of doing. yes, keeping on breathing. am thankful for support from family and friends who all tell me I’m not insane for wanting what I want. ROFL – need validation anyone? borrow my family. It actually pulls me up to face the nasty stuff that I don’t want to deal with. Puts it in perspective. which really helps.

 
54.
Brian
Brian

August 2010 looks to be the ultimate crush, as that’s when Planet X is scheduled to cruise by!!

 
55.
Craig
Craig

Its terrible, i feel like im just coasting along and theres nothing absolute nothingness

 
56.
Elsa
Elsa

Craig, welcome. I am sorry you’re struggling.

 
57.
Craig
Craig

I have Moon at 1 degree of Libra
Sun at 5 degrees of Aries
Pluto at 7 degrees of Libra
Jupiter at 1 degree of Aries

 
58.
sky
sky

OOOEEEE, This is not going to be a short ride…
1st House Mars 4 degrees Cancer,
1st House Uranus 10 degrees Cancer
1st House Sun 16 degrees Cancer,
9th House Jupiter 14 degrees Aries conjunct Mid Heaven 14 degrees Aries ,
4th House Neptune 16 libra
I am feeling very good lately…best I have in the past 4 1/2 years…How do I prepare?
Sky

 


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