My ex is a Scorpio. Sun, Merc, Venus, and Asc.

What he did for me he did early in the relationship. My mother was dying of cancer when we met, and he made it possible for me to keep her home (thus honoring her wishes) through the end. Hell, he even suggested getting married so she could go at peace that her baby girl wouldn’t be “alone” like she was for so much of her life.

Although the marriage wasn’t great for a long time, that debt was enormous to me; I stayed longer than was good for either of us because I felt I owed him. We are both in much better places now.

Scorpio exudes energy at all times. They literally provide life support and most are absolutely oblivious.

As a result Scorpio twists.

My good friend is a scorpio. During the obsessive relationship with my ex she was there to tell me i was talking too much about him. It was like a cut to hear it from her. After ranting about it for a bit I realized she was right and called her the next day to meet for brunch. It was after that that I really started to pull my energy out of the relationship – first by simply talking about other things. Other people tried in other ways to get me to pull out but only a scorpio can do it with a quick observation/line.

My dad is a double Scorpio. As difficult as he is sometimes, there is no one I know I can count on more.

yes.
and then they get sick of people coming in like a horde of bloodsuckers for that energy…

and, yeah, twist. or retreat (if they have 12th house…)

Every Scorpio I’ve ever known has been fucked in the head. Emotionally disturbed.

It’s probably unfair of me to pre-judge the entire sign, but man…I’m cautious around them.

hmm I’ve never felt like I have to defend against scorpio. friends have had scorp moon mostly & I married a scorpio.

maybe my scorpio neptune makes me oblivious, like the fool going to step off the cliff haha.

scorpio folks have taught me when/how to point my stinger but mostly about regeneration (the phoenix bird thing) it seems like they’ve gone through some shit & deal with it 100% no exception.

Great topic! I’ve been thinking about this exact same question lately.

I’ve allways shied away from Scorpio’s. Too bloody demanding. Which is something that still bugs me about them, driving my Aquarius Sun MAD. And yes, some of them can sting pretty mean…

But the longer i live, the more i tend to gravitate toward Scorpio types, slowly learning to understand them, and learning FROM them (i’ve also got an 8th house Sun, with Uranus and my NN in Scorpio, so i guess i need the example).

They’re he best hosts in the Zodiac, for one thing. They go at grest length, unobtrusively, to feed you a great meal and make everybody comfortable. This seems to be something that comes naturaly.
Every single Scorpio Sun i know (family and friends) possesses this quality in one way or another.

There’s also something sweet about them, as if they’re feeling helpless being as intense as they are.
I know now that their demanding ways – annoying as they may be – are a result of their own deeply rooted loyalty.

One of my Scorpio Sun friends radiates a warmth, heat almost, that’s so soothing and nurturing that nothing else is needed. I don’t know if she’s aware of this, i suspect she isn’t, but i love her for that.

My mother (a scorpio) made me aware of this energy and am quite uncomfortable with it some of the times. i have venus, mercury and pluto in scorpio, in the 12th house. I’m not really sure how that energy manifest in me. But i do feel like sometimes that energy is too overwhelming on others (and myself) if it does come out so i try to repress it. But that’s not even possible right? Can you ever repress an energy? It’ll just come out in other ways i guess…

I thought of more Scorpio energy infusion – my mom (Pisces) has a long, long-time friend who has always sort of sustained her, doing things for her, checking on her, helping her. She’s a Scorpio. I have a friend whose mom takes care of an ailing friend as well, spending every day with her and supporting her with her medical stuff – just checked: Scorpio.

I bet she can handle that blast from hell.

I love how the Ads by Google links on the top right include “Why Scorpios are Jerks” hahaha. I’m sure there’s one for every sign.

Elsa,

Excellent topic. You quite right in your assessment. One of my best friends (Scorpio sun) would not only give you her last dollar, but borrow a dollar and give it to you as well with no regard for the consequence to herself.

My humble observation… (trying not to be too esoteric)

I distinguish between low-level, unevolved Scorpios and those with a spiritual purpose
whether they’re aware of it or not. The Sarah McLachlan song ‘Building a Mystery’ perfectly describes the former and her song ‘Fumbling towards Ectasy’ and ‘Possession’ reasonably describes the relentless, fearless quest of the latter.

A Scorpio’s deep urge is to find the Infinite. Touching infinity involves dying to the known and rebirth to something unknown. Figuratively speaking they’re always looking for a good day to die. The Native American Sun Dance is an excellent example of this Scorpion quest. To a degree, Scorpio’s energy is a result of their spiritual quest.

Invariably I sense a Scorpio upon first encounter and immediately apply this filter…
are they staring into the Universal abyss, toes to the precipice? If so you can trust them with your life, because they’d unflinchingly give you theirs. If not, turn away for they’re destructive.

If you’re facing an Alamo, there’s no one better to press your back against.
Namaste.

I am very drawn to Scorpio types. I have a 7th house Pluto in Libra. Scorpio is in my 8th house, with Uranus aspecting my venus, moon and mars.

I’m wondering if what draws me to Scorpios is because I’m a very deep, intense person myself. I have a 12th house Aries sun and I could not help but be drawn to the deep and unknown. I scare most people, but for some reason scorpios and pisces have never once shied away from this intensity.

My SO is Scorpio and it’s been a year since we startyed dating. I’ve never been so happy

I don’t know about this. The Scorpio I dated for about 5 months didn’t tell me he was married (separated) with 3 kids until about a month in, all he did was talk about how he hated his, not wife (a Pisces) but ex-girlfriend (who is also a Scorpio, btw), cried A LOT (always about himself and his situations), frequently “borrowed” money from me, and ended up cheating on me (good thing I am a good spy and caught him) which I caught and which is why I ended it for good!

This guy has Mars conjunct Neptune and Pluto conjunct Venus – make of that what you will. I could not get rid of this guy – I had to change my e-mail address and get a new phone number. But, it takes two to tango and I thought I “understood” him (Aquarius rising, Moon in Libra, Pluto in the 8th) and would go back out with him after talking to him and thinking “I am overreacting, nobody’s perfect”. The problem was – the guy was super smart and intellectual and that is THE most important thing to me (Mercury in the 7th, Gemini 5th House). It wasn’t even the sex that was keeping me, it actually wasn’t that good at all. I wasn’t into pain, but I’m sure his Scorpio ex was! We were mismatched in that area and I told him several times, I am more sensual (Sun in Leo) and he is more sexual (Sun in Scorpio). He was wayyyy too sensitive and could not take a joke, I had to walk on eggshells all of the time – hard thing for a Leo with an Aquarius rising to do! It was like I was the man in the relationship – always making the decisions, always paying (says over clenched teeth), always the one consoling and reassuring. It was crazy!

Needless to say, this experience has really soured me on Scorps.

I found this article to be profound beyond belief. I only have one planet in the 8th house & that’s my Pisces Moon. Up until now, I could never understand why my “emotional displays” were so upsetting to everyone, including myself. Truthfully, I thought any expression of emotions made me “weak.” And I’m a female, where traditionally we’re “allowed” to be the “weepy-ones.” Well, not where I came from. I’ve also got a Scorpio Saturn in the IC, which hasn’t been a lot of fun figuring out & living with, either. It’s true, I don’t care for anyone to fall apart at the seams during times of crises, but to deny or be unable to express oneself ever? I’ve been trying to explain this to others my entire life. My emotions are my emotions & I should be allowed to express them any time I like. I just couldn’t figure out why (until now) when I became angry or cried or was anything other than “reasonable” (my sun,merc,venus are all gemini/11th house)my family, friends & co-workers get rattled beyond belief. I know I don’t get angry that often, so when I do blow, it’s like the preverbial volcano. I do know this placement puts me in the position of armchair psychologist. Others do come to me to talk about their emotional problems; must be that 8th house “sharing”.
My late husband & our twenty-something son both have Scorpio rising & my son has his Scorpio Saturn conjunct it! (Not to mention his Mars & Pluto in Scorpio) He & I have “power plays” all of the time, but he doesn’t like emotional upsets period, but that may be due to his Aqua Sun Virgo moon as much as anything else. (Too messy & impractical, until he falls in love.)
I had started dating two years after my husband passed way, but it dissolved due to too much arguing; too much Taurus in bad placements in his chart. Now I’m with a man I met during this same period with a Leo sun Scorpio moon & we are just so much more emotionally stable together. Oddly enough, he was in a relationship with a Leo Sun Aries Moon woman at our 1st meeting. I think Scorpio/8th house/Pluto placements are really misunderstood. It was almost as if we became obsessive-possessive about our relationship (we’re both media specialists who worked on a PR project together)but very loyal to our S.O’s, so no “crossing the border” so to speak. We’d email, talk on the phone, even “gift” one another & keep in touch. We were the 1st to come to one another’s defense if any criticisms were made, in either the professional or social sector. 1st his relationship fell apart & then mine, but it took months afterward for us to do anything about it. We took the time out to reflect on what had gone wrong in those relationships. Anyway, we had another chance to work together & he moved in with me right afterward, with two teenage daughters & two dogs! And no, I’m not a gullible sucker with my Pisces heart & I believe it’s due to the 8th house placement. He’s got his own house nearby which he didn’t feel emotionally comfortable in after the break-up with his ex, so we use it as offices, guest rooms & storage, which is oh-so the “urge to merge”. So I’m not really sure which energy’s at work here, but the more time we spend together, the more “lock a rock” I feel emotionally.
I really think people need to quit blanket-statementing every sign or placement as one thing or another until they look fully at the natal charts of the people involved. (I think that sounds very Scorpianic) My Pisces moon emotionally enlightens me, while my 8th house placement gives me the power to transform myself & others. Not a bad placement at all.

I am a scorpio sun with a leo moon. How can someone be so emotionally aware and secretive yet so flashy. I am the nerd wearing a rainbow stripped suit and pink hair. I am the most feminine macho man ever. people dont know wether to kiss me or kill me. There is enormous, enormous, enormous power being a scorpio that people could never even fathom. altho i would say it sucks

I relate to Jinn (sorry I’m late to this conversation). I have Scorpio Sun, Venus, Mercury, and ummm. . something else I can’t recall. Here’s what it feels like: imagine stuffing the biggest bonfire you’ve ever seen – the kind you can see from miles away – into a postage-sized lot. I’d be interested in knowing if other Scorpios sense that one of their life’s lessons is how to harness this energy, be aware of it, and use it for good rather than evil (I’ve always worn a white hat). I don’t like to tire people out, which is another thing that can happen. I would prefer to have others happy at the added energy, not dread it. Anyone agree?

Thank you for this very insightful article Elsa!I have Scorpio Sun & Mercury. I would like to think my friends can count on me but that is something i cannot assume. I can though give my observations on other scorpios in my life. My first love was a scorpio and somehow we still keep in touch (its been 10 years)- my mother-in-law’s scorpio ex-lover is still in her life and basically “protects” her in her times of need. My mother has a scorpio sun and is definitely the rock in the family. Even though we butted heads when i was younger, she is the parent that stood up for me and there are secrets that passes her observations. I am married to a pisces and we are expecting our first son who is expected in Nov…another scorpio.

My paternal grandmother was a Scorpio (Nov. 17), and she was EXTREMELY private, affectionate and had a wisdom that was ahead of her time. When she gave me hugs, kisses and I-Love-Yous, I felt like I was was being protected as well as loved!

The double scorpio who surfaced…

I write

Nice to talk to the sane, it’s like there are about 11 of us left.

he responds:

That seems a bit high…

Recently burned by a mega-scorpio – amputated out of the blue -has me feeling sour but I don’t blame scorpio in general. I was swept away by him. He was the most perceptive person I’d ever spoken too probably. I felt he changed my life briefly and I was fed briefly. He showed me what is possible and what I want, briefly. Maybe that was his purpose. To come and show me something — and then disappear.

This is way over my head! LOL

That was lovely Shannon.

And I think you pointed out a thing about us Scorps – it’s my opinion that we are very leary of asking anyone for help – ever. It’s the ‘never let them see you sweat’ & stiff upper lip and all that thing.

So, all of you who love a Scorpio? Look to see what they need assistance with, because it’s fairly unlikely that they’ll out and out ask for it. If they do? Perhaps they’re about to go down for the last count.

I think they will be ever so grateful for the offer (you are going to offer first, aren’t you? Because the stink bomb you set off by just jumping into their stuff? Would set Dumb n’ Dumber off the stinky scale!)

…and you know what? …some times the offer would be all it would take to set them/things aright again. To know that we aren’t really alone after all might put all kinds of wind in our sails.

…and some times you might actually have to offer more than once (we are rather prideful after all), before we’d actually accept.

I know, I know – but we are worth it man!!

I find I am quite proud to be a Scorpio. Being as young as I am, I have been able to transform and gain the ability of near ulitmate perception. I can tap into my power and use it to my advantage; which is rarely for an evil purpose. I try hard to help and understand the human mind, which also doubles as a burden when I realize how much greater I’m tuned to it. I have discovered and profiled more than the normal person. I can feel myself rooting into people’s souls and watch distantly as they squirm under my gaze. I can be imperious. I can be jealous. I can be the best person you have ever met or an enemy that makes you want to die. I am strong and I will not ignore it, but with my strong will also comes the responcibility to choose to use my immense powers to help others and give them change as I have. I learn from my mistakes and more from the mistakes of others. For this reason, I can vouch that I find myself very intollerant of others who are close-minded or refuse to change. It, at times, serves as a burden; but in the end, I know that I have the strength to rise above it all. My only hope is that I can bring my weaker family members and friends with me. I have been given a gift by being a Scorpio of the Zodiac and I WILL survive this life with eagle’s wings, although many others have not.

My father is a Scorpio and when asked what it was like to be raised by him I always say he was hell on wheels! He is impervious to compliments and criticism. He is very strong, decent and generous and I appreciate him alot more now. Especially since:

I’m moon conjunct Neptune in Scorpio and I feel it’s the dominating aspect of my chart. I feel everything. I go to hell and back on a daily basis. I feel incredible joys and incredible sorrows. I am too private and secretive but you can tell me anything and I will never break a confidence.

One of my daughters is Scorpio but she’s only seven and the other is also moon In Scorpio. The years to come should be interesting.

I love me I wouldn’t want to be any other sign in the world. Yes it is true women do give nasty looks as if u have done something wrong I had to learn that it wasn’t me that was the problem it was them and when they looked at me in what ever way that was they saw themselves or what they wanted to be and they couldn’t come to grips with it. I deal with it with my younger sisters All the time I would say to myself what is wrong with me that they treat me so bad but then I had to stop and think they r not secure with themselves and I am and that was and still is the problem and will continue to be this way until they change:-) I just needed to get that out

I have read the blogs here, and wish to comment on the generalities that I am reading. First off, you can’t go by the Sun sign alone, you can not go by the 8th house alone. A rising sign pays a huge role in a persons chart. Other planetary placements also changes the chart. I am reading good and bad things here about us Scorpios. There is a positive and a negative with each sign. Yes the Symbolism plays a huge role. Scorpio with a stinger, oh yes, we can sting quite well, and hopefully he or she is an evolved Scorpio, that has true aim,that can hit the target of their intension. Do they like to use it, if a conscious hu-man, no, only as a teaching tool. The Phoenix. Yes, we do have the capabilities of rising up out of the ashes very well. We are survivors.

Welcome, Nutsy MacLewis.

Thanks, Katherine.

I believe I DO expect too much from others. I’ve been considering that quietly since I submitted that previous confession (for a Scorpio, it’s a confession!). I try to be patient and carefree, but sometimes you wonder when it’s the people that are your better friends. Thanks again.

NUTSY

This is the first time I have obtained so much validation regarding the scorpio energy! It is also interesting and wonderful to have the scorpio sexual energy clarified. In my case I have experienced periods of having amazing sexual experiences, and can also tolerate periods of celibacy without going nuts. I am not sex crazed, yet when I have the right connection, my sexual experiences are truly wonderful.

It truly is not easy to be a Scorpio. I feel that the energy strength and depth can be very nourishing, but most people cannot deal with it, and I have consequently been pushed away. This is hard especially when one of my biggest motivations is to help and nurture people, especially since I am in the health care field. It is hard to have good intentions and have others step all over that.

I have experienced a lot of hurts and losses, and find it amazing when time after time, I feel my phoenix rising, and my transformative energies turn inwards to heal “even” me.

I continue to bounce back and hope to continue to do so, as I adore my children, and really want to be there for them as they grow and develop, but it is so hard to be so misunderstood and rejected.

We are strong, and kinda “magical” but we also get hurt, and need love. Maybe I need to search out other people who have Scorpio energies. My strongest connections right now are Taurus, Libra and Virgo. I feel that my Virgo friend understands me the best. She is in a relationship with a Scorpio man.

Thanks Elsa for your kind and illuminating work.

i am a scorpio myself and am constantly feeling that people are forever trying to break through the barriers of my soul lol.. pity the fool!! some people just dont understand how we work.. how complex our minds are.. we are indeed very misunderstood and mysterious creatures. i dont even understand how i work myself at times lol.. i just know deep down inside the warrior thrives in me, and when against all odds we will prevail:) nice site elsa!

Hello all am I the only one here who gets upset when not treated equally. I feel like I sometimes give until I have no more and get nothing in return until I get upset but then I don’t want anyone to do anything for me . I know that this isn’t healthy for me and I need to come out of this cycle if madness

Hmmm . . . all very nice about the bright side of Scorpio, and much appreciated! Intense, energizing, emotional powerhouses, yes, which is why we find them so hypnotically sexy even if they don’t look so good

However, lest we forget that the 8th house also represents other people’s money: pay close attention to the Venus placement in your favorite Scorpio’s chart. A healthy prominent well-aspected Venus promises a gracious good-looking keeper. Especially if their Venus nicely jives with your own personal planets.

But if perchance you’ve crossed paths with a Scorpion who sports a sick Venus, best distance yourself. Hide your assets. Hide your heart. And brace yourself for one hell of a bumpy ride, especially if Uranus is acting up.

And we haven’t mentioned Mars, co-ruler of Scorpio. I know a Scorpion with progressed Mars conjunct Uranus/Pluto near the ascendant. OMG.

Wow… OK Elsa, you can get out of my head now!

I freakin’ love Scorpio. Maybe it’s the Scorpio in my chart, but I draw Scorpios in all the time. Through no effort at all, and we’ve become the best of friends or colleagues. Nothing but love from me for these guys!

More surgeons are born under the sign of Scorpio, they can and do save lives. Scorpio energy is intense because it is self-centered, Aries on the 6th. If that energy can be turned away from the self and towards others with positive intentions, then Scorpio can be a source of very humane giving and love.

Evolved Scorpions elevate mankind, Aquarius with Scorpio on the MC. Unevolved Scorpions drain and degenerate humanity. Many atrocities have been committed by this type of Scorpionic energy, it’s why they get such a bad rap, even though in many cases it is deserved.

The true Scorpion redeems itself by service to humanity through right relations as shown by Libra on the 12th.

Thanks

Welcome, Natalie. If you post your chart and question on the boards, people will see it and probably respond. Here it will likely be lost.

Angel,

Thank you so much!

I truly appreciate your info and insights! What you wrote is so helpful!

Any suggestions on how to get that helpful consult?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup-2010/teams/england/2295526/Raymond-Domenech-looks-to-the-stars.html

WHO WOULDN’T WANT A SCORPIO ON THEIR TEAM?

Stupid.

I must disagree with this post. Not sure why, but almost every Scorpio male I’ve ever come into contact with has tried to either manipulate me into sleeping with them, tried to convince me I’m in love with them (when I’m not) or has tried to make me feel inferior to them. I’ve always been extremely loved and respected by Scorpio women, but the men almost make a sport out of trying to head-trip me. It’s bizarre. I always feel completely drained when I’m around them. Could it be my chart?

Sun-Aquarius
Moon-Aries
Asc-Pisces
Merc-Aquarius
Venus-Sag
Mars-Aries
Jupiter-Pisces
Saturn-Sag
Uranus-Sag
Neptune-Cap
Pluto-Scorpio

Sun, Merc-12th house
Moon, Mars, Jupiter, True Node-1st
Venus, Uranus, Neptune-10th
Saturn-9th
Pluto-8th

I was totally channeling this piece when I wrote that thread about bragging. *lol* Oh, the things I forget I’ve read… Sorry, E-P.

Natalie, if you post this on the boards with the charts, people will see it and you will probably get a response.

@ Vicki

Its probably something to do with your Saggitarius Venus, which indicates your need for freedom in a relationship, combined with your Pisces Moon,which gives Scorpios the perception of someone who can be walked on or a pascifist. The part of you that disagrees with this is Aries, the fire sign who doesnt exactly tolerate belittlement and mind games!

Im not an Astrologer but that’s my insight! =)

Good day,

I was born on november 14.

The power/energy thing isn’t mythical after all (!!). It’s somthing I never understood how or why as a kid and am still not exactly sure: i’m just finally comfortable in my own skin and feels wonderful to not have to ‘dumb myself down’ for anyone anymore.

That was said in an effort to just be myself without having to explain myself especially to myself.

Oh! I’ve recently met a Scorpio man and holy bonkers! We’re both in our mid-late 30′s… it is so wonderful to be known, accepted and not sort of partly feared. I’ve met my equal and it’s so indescribable.

Hi all sometimes I feel like I’m the strongest thing in the world and other times I don’t. I don’t know if this has anything to do with being a scorp but I can sense when someone is sad or hurting it’s crazy. I wish I had more control over this but I don’t my birthday is November 4,1975 born on the east coast can someone tell me something. Oh P.S do sag and scorp go together his Bday is 12/21/66

Welcome, REINADEHIELO.

Thank you Elsa P for this thread as I have enjoyed reading these comments greatly. I am a Scorpio my Mate/Husband is an Aries with a Leo rising his sun, Venus, and Mercury in the 8th house and Pluto on his Assendent so he really understands me extremely well and I personally find that to be a blessing not only that he accepts me as I am. A difficult thing for a Scorpio person to find is someone who accepts them as they are faults and all.

I have the hardest time asking anyone even my wonderful husband for help because I look around and see that everyone is just as busy as me so rather than say hey could you help me I just keep on keeping on. Why ask if no body can help it just makes them feel bad.

I am the current Matriarch of the family my mother passed away St Patrick’s Day 2009. My father is still living and I am not only his Guardian but his P.O.A. His lung cancer his out of remission and he is in radiation treatment right not every day I pick him up at the skilled nursing care facility he is at and take him to his treatments which will be finished the 28th of October. I also am assisting my daughter get her life squared away by taking her to work nearly every night of the week. She is helping my sister who has been a single parent now for almost a Year thank the heavens so they can’t help with daddy and the economy is not being kind at all but the girls are making it. My younger brother is also a single parent he does daddy’s laundry which is a great help to me every one of my siblings and kids have said I don’t know how many times they don’t know how my husband and I do what we do. We have a blended family between my husband and I we have 6 grown children most have children of their own, so I have lots to keep me very busy.

Nota: I just noticed you wrote this:
“They are the ones who can say something that if anyone else said I would be totally offended, but coming from them it is so stripped of bullshit pretense and steeped in an awareness of what really is for my own good, whatever bomb theyre gonna drop recieves immediate acceptance in the depths of my psyche as the raw naked truth.”

I totally relate to this. I like the “bullshit-free” environment Scorpios provide. It’s enough to keep this feisty double Aries happy

I’m Cancer Sun, Aquarius Rising, Moon in Taurus, Venus in Cancer
She’s Scorpio Sun and Ascendant, Moon in Libra, Venus in Sagittarius.

Supportive workmates, surprising friends – completely baffled by almost dating each other – pretty much mentally committing as life partners before getting around to a kiss, so aware of what a big deal it was – then spectacularly seizing romantic defeat from the jaws of victory.

About to meet up for the first time in seven months.

Loved this article and comments – by first ‘choosing’ me and then ‘rejecting’ me, she has brought me back to life.

Have absolutely no idea what will happen next, and know that is the best way to be with this. Do know, however, that I should relish every moment I spend with her – and never be less than myself – whether she is there or not. She will tell.

Thank you, scorps, for helping me ‘man up’!

Still with the Scorpio Man.

Both of us keep our individual controlling & jealousy tendancies in check: We both know how challanging that is and we respect each other more for the effort.

I love that we both are very honest.

He clued in that we’re both scorpios on his birthday Nov. 8th: “Huh! Huh?! Hmmm…. we’re both scorpios. Imagine that we’re doing ok!”

I guess it takes awhile for negative sterotypes to put to rest.

Well. I’m hoping that what we have going on will continue for a long time.

Thank you so much for your time and these conversations.

You can keep your Scorpios!!! And they do do nasty things!!! My father is a Scorpio and I told him once that he is a manipulator and a shiester!!! He then showed me the door!!! It took me almost 35 years to understand just how “power hungry” he and other Scorpios are. I am a Leo and I should have been his “bragging right” with all my college degrees and such, but I didn’t turn out to be what he wanted and now he is hell bent on punishing me for the rest of his life. He almost comes undone when we withhold information from him. He’s opened my tax-statements. I have thought about going to the Feds on him for this but being a Leo we hold out until sheer force is necessary–unlike Scorpios who hold on to slights and who plot and plan revenge against you for the rest of their lives. Gotta wonder why so many Scorpio relatives of mine suffer from auto-immune diseases and diseases of the immune system? It comes from holding on to anger and resentment!!! Scorpios never fail to promote their hidden agendas.
Scorpios never do anything ALONE!!! Just like if you find a scorpion in your house you had better look for the other because they always travel in pairs. Scorpios have this incredible nack for getting into other people’s heads and getting them involved in their little schemes. Sometimes I think it is because those folks are terified of these Scorpios and would rather not be the “target” on the receiving end of their “stinger”. Scorpios constantly play mind games with you until you become completely exhausted from them and their schemes and require years of psychological counseling just to reclaim yourself. My own father has told me that he admires certain qualities about me (yes, can you believe that I actually got a few compliments from him) and that if he could bottle these traits up he would. HE WOULD BOTTLE THEM UP AND SELL THEM OR MANIPULATE THEM TO HIS OWN ADVANTAGE!!! He has been unable to tame his “idealistic” Leo daughter and trust me, he is bound and determined to get back at me until the day he is gone from the face of planet earth. I do not want this man in “control” of my life. EVERYTHING YOU READ ABOUT SCORPIO COMPATIABILITY COMES MOSTLY FROM THE STAND-POINT OF HAVING SCORPIOS AS MATES. But how are you to handle Scorpios when they are your father, brother or cousins? And please don’t mention all the “mind blowing sex” that you can have with a Scorpio because I don’t want to have “mind blowing” sex with any of my relatives!!!!!! I want them to keep their distance and know their boundaries when it comes to my relationships with them!!!! Scorpios almost make you feel like killing them and people need to quit giving them so much power!!! How they are able to get into the heads of other people to MANIPULATE them is beyond my comprehension!!!! I don’t know about most of you but dealing with a Scorpio leaves you feeling repulsed and mentally and emotionally drained!!! It is almost though everyone in this world has given Scorpios “carte blanche” to do things that are counter to “biblical” scripture and “time tested” truths!!! Vengence is against biblical truths and is frowned upon in almost every society. But yet, Scorpios get a “pass”!!! Controlling and trying to possess others is against biblical scriptures and is frowned upon in almost every society, but yet, Scorpios get a “pass”!!! The Bible says don’t let the sun go down on your wrath–meaning use that anger to bring about positive change and results, but yet, Scorpios get a “pass” to be as resentful,mean-spirited, caustic, angry, vengeful and vindictative as they want to be. Somebody needs to re-write the book of astrology when it comes to these “shape-shifting” (transforming??) vile creatures or better yet, Scorpios need to start adhering to sound principles, sound doctorine and the TRUTH!!!!

To Sharon:

It takes guts to be so honest & it is too bad you had such negative experiences with family members.

Scorpios do have some defining traits and I agree, that letting go of hurts can be difficult. In my case, I do not like that I have a hard time forgiving the slights & abuses of others, I sure wish that it were easier. Then agsin, I have suffered some really painful injustices.

I am a late Scorpio & have Libra and Saggitarius traits. I suppose one of the ways this plays out in my life, is that when I have a hard time forgiving, I pray to God to either forgive that person or situation for me, or for insights & enhanced ability to forgive. I find that when I nurture myself & take perspective forgivintg & letting go, and letting God becomes easier. Physically letting god of physical things that I do not need on a regular basis, also reminds me of the importance of letting go even if forgiveness is difficult. I wish it were simple, but neither can be forced, & Sharon, you need the time & space you need to forgive those who have hurt, slighted, and manipulated you.

Sensitivities, sadness and anger toward family tend to come up more during the holiday season. I think this is true for most of us. I struggle with thinking about my Taurus mother, the ways she hurt me when I was a child and adolescent, but I try to recall the good things that she did when I need to spend time with her, like Thanksgiving dinner . Being stuck in anger & sadness is not good for my spirit, my body and my mind.

Good luck Sharon & Godspeed…

Raised in a psychic modality, I definitely feel that Scorpio energy! They do not let go, either… I tend to drift away from people I know are leaving or who are moving on, but Scorpios tend to keep their friends as long as they want them no matter where you happen to be on the planet. Meaning, it’s not up to you to let go. (This particular friend of mine has his Saturn in Aquarius, which might contribute to it.)

Very manipulative, though.. I feel like my correspondence with my Scorpio friend is like a fencing match. On guard, parry, riposte. I’m always dodging manipulative traps. They wear you down even if the energy feels great, but you’ll have to adapt and–hopefully!–be stronger for the experience.

You definitely don’t tell them what to do–you ask nicely, and still aren’t guaranteed what you want (kind of like praying to the almighty, haha.)

this may be a bit late, but great topic. i have sun and mercury in the 1st in scorpio and sun contraparalell pluto so am very aware of this energy. yes pluto types can be very intense and controlling, when not aspiring to great things. i will say that i like scorpios, they are just not phoney like everone else. they will tell you if they like or hate you , so you know where it stands. that fighting and mean stuff is just to stir it up and see what really lies beneath the surface. it’s just testing. there is an unspoken understanding with scorpios, if you don’t start trouble there won’t be any. however if you do, they can be vicious. fair enough. the bad reputation, i think comes from bullies who don’t expect someone to fight back. i think no one will be as reliable and loyal. you have to really do something pretty bad for them to give up on you. the ones i’ve known are just cool! they are interested in things, and are very resourceful people with creative ideas and solutions (and DEEP). you can tell them anything, and they actually know how to keep secrets. if you ever have a real life and death problem they won’t fall apart and abandon you. i think all the little annoying stuff is a small sacrifice for the loyalty and devotion they have to give. my sister has a scorpio stellium w/ sun, and has come to be my best friend now that we are grown. there is also this quality of things always evolving and developing, which encourages growth. very positive in my mind. sometimes people have to go through bad spells and experience hardships as part of their growth process. i have observed that scorpios have this potential to evolve far beyond other people, and to keep evolving. so you can’t label them bad. maybe at some point they are terrible, then go on to do some truly wonderful and amazing stuff, you just never know.

I’m a double Skorpion (Venus in SCO), and I get this response from the women (cis-women AND transgendered M2F) that I approach. Basically they can’t stand the heat like you say. My current flame is a SCO/AQU Rising 3000 miles away in Canada (I’m presently in Atlanta), and she’s giving me the scared-bunny-facing-a-boa act right now. She doesn’t have an excuse, being a fellow Skorpion!

I’m an Orchestra Director/Musician with Pluto, Uranus, and my North Node in my Leo/Virgo Xth house. I think I scare off a lot of investor angels.

re energy for life: it is simple. you did something, either hurtful, something to make them angry, or have shown yourself to be disloyal and unreliable. crisis is ongoing, that would never be enough to cause them to withdraw. superficiality is also a big deal, if you fail to open up and be honest and real, after a certain point you will be written off.

To: Energy4Life

About Scorpios disappearing, & speaking for myself, reciprocity could also be an issue. I love to give, but when reciprocity does not happen, relationships become imbalanced. I have recently set some limits with an important friendship where I was extending myself more than she was. I made it very clear to her that if she did not step up, a friendship would not be possible. She did not step up, and I am no longer willing to expend my energies on someone who is limited in capacities for reciprocity, loyalty and consideration. I have not stopped loving her & if I were to accidentally bump into her I would actually be happy to see her & yes I might even smile.

To all those who criticize Scorps, imagine being really strong, and really, really sensitive at the same time, having this strong urge to give and love, yet being misunderstood and repeatedly rejected. How would this feel? This is where some Scorps can become vengeful, the stinger is used with the surgeons accuracy but to create hurt, not healing.

At the same time, all the hurts can grow wings, and there is the moment when the crustacean transforms into the Eagle/Phoenix. Emotional autonomy is strenghthened and creative transformations continue. As we know about the phoenix, its tears having healing powers.

Energy4life, maybe your friend cried over you…

@ natalie – I don’t see my response about RECIPROCITY, so I’ll type it again – highly abridged. I am deliberately adding the word “reciprocity” to my vocabulary. Well-timed!

i wasn’t saying those things as a sort of attack, just the probable truth, thought maybe you wanted a real answer? some people are more sensitive than others, betrayal can be as simple as, telling a secret, not being available when you are really needed, being insensitive. it’s all relative. if there is no trust or meaning there is no point, sometimes it is easier to love people from afar. oh and we all make mistakes in relationships, even unintentional things can be hurtful. i can only state my opinion based on a lifetime of experiences and observations. it is hard to really have true honesty with people, as most live in their own fantasy world. you don’t really need input from anyone, if you look inside yourself all of the answers will be right there!

I love the power and the energy of being a Scorpio and i have many scorpio friends. We just “get” each other and my experience i never crossed the line or border w/another scorp as far as i know. People love to tell me their secrets or bounce stuff off me and sometimes they dont like when i tell them blunt truth but they do learn to just deal with it and they respect me for it later. They cant stay mad at me for long. They always see how i survive anything that comes at me and want to know how i do it. I just have to i tell them i take care of me and mine. Simple. Those that know me well know that im quiet but resourceful, loyal, honest, humorous, and sexy. Men come around me even when i am in my plain state (no make up,not dressed up)and if there is an attraction i can usually get a date or a kiss. The kiss will let me know if its going any further. If the kiss wasnt good, we are not gonna be dating. If it is, ooohweeee. I get along with male friends better than females who are very catty. I dont like bullshit and i am hardheaded and stubborn about what i like and dont like. It drives my kids (taurus and sagitarious)crazy but they love me and depend on me even tho we all try to get our own way. Not a dull moment, we either having heated conversations,or laughing hysterically, or taking a time out from each other. Lots of spice here!! I love all the comments about the scorpio experiences. Just gotta live fully out no matter what you are…only i chance in this life to make your life matter.

Scorpio/Scorpio, me and her. I’m Scorp rising, and she’s Aquarius rising. My Taurus Moon directly opposes her Scorpio Moon. She’s been unfriending me off and on for nine months every time she takes a half-shine to some bum (literally). She KNOWS that I’m the sweet dark LUV she really needs (“way way down inside…WO-MAN!”). Why this puerile denial?!

It is amazing that this post has been generating comments for over 2 years now. I am a Scorpio and I agree we can frustrate anyone who takes an interest to us or cares for us. Trying to understand someone who is focused on the pain of the world is an impossible mission. You peer into my head to try and comprehend what my thoughts are and you may be transported to the other side of the world or maybe 20 years in the future. To be an evolved Scorpio is to have an almost omniprescent sense of what’s going on everywhere and still noice the small details like an Eagle. Yet the fact that we don’t focus on the “small things” because we are looking beyond them mystifies and frustrates some. This energy and insight is our responsibility and I have been fine tuning my “Eagle’s Eye View” as soar above common consciousness. Scorpios that I know and myself included don’t plot revenge. However we do agree that bad karma from crossing or betraying seems to come fast and furious to those who tread on us.

My father was a Scorpio. It was easy to read his energy, if he was lying, hiding something, etc bc he is ScorpioI suppose. To this day, I find it very easy to know what a Scorpio male is thinking or feeling without him saying anything. For this reason, they are often very, VERY attracted to me. Even if I leave them. BUT, I always see the Scorpio stinger come out and I hate it!
My father was evil, violent and exerted power only over who he perceived as weak. They few times I was hoping he would step up and exert some real power over some real situations to help me out, he simply folded or ran from the challenge.
It’s hard for me to go past this view of Scorpio as the tormentor/tormented. I can’t see them as powerful bc I saw my father was sniveling. Sorry.
My father was never on my team and was very good at betraying that bond and never followed thru on promises. I actually really do hope Karma comes through. Hahaha! I’m just kidding….I let go of that desire but I’m still wary of Scorps. Females, I like though. My aunt was a Scorpio female and was very kind to me. I heard negative things as I grew older but I only care about how she treated me. And she treated me very well. I think both were cheaters, though. Funny enough.

about cheating…

check out the statistics. I am familiar with the numbers due to my line of work. One statistic I read a few years ago indicated that up to 70% of men cheat at least once while in a serious relationship, and women hover around 50%. Some more recent statistics indicate that it is getting worse. Folks, look up the facts, it is more common than we like to believe, for whatever reason. Also, I am prety sure it is spread out throughout the Zodiac.

Welcome, Helen.

Welcome complaining and you’re welcome to complain.

Welcome, Carmen.

OH, & our of curiosity, what is Placidus?

Is it the “placid” aspect of your astrological profile?

the balancing element perhaps?

or…. ..am I projecting, I have Saggitarius, Virgo & Libra influences.

playful, LOYAL, & tend to strive for BalancE.

Anywho & silly-willy joKe aside. I am in fact interested in what Placidus means.

And website. I’ve been Reading you lately and I truly enjoy your take on Astrology. Very insightful and so very accurate. Would love to learn more. xo, Elizabeth

When I was young thought I was born in a different family I thought that there’s some thing wrong with my family . I was always hard headed and I liked things my way I was sweat and bitter because but deep down I always believed. In my self I knew I was special . I had my opinion snd that was it I joined the navy at 18 boy I’m glad I did it was against my families wishes and tradition and culture that the girls join the navy . And I met my first love and he saw I was confused he’s a Scorpio . He gave me a book about astrology And was I Sooooooo happy to read about all the true traits about us and I’m so happy to be a scorpio . If I wasn’t I would be Sooooo jelouse !!!!! All that intensity ! Pasion ! Energy ! Love it !!! And btw we got married and have 5 children together would not want to be married to some one else !! Love my scorp snd love being one. Because Scorpios do make the world beautiful !!!!!

I just want to add my 2 cents here. I have mentioned in a recent post elsewhere that I love Scorpios. Reason being I have both a brother and a sister who are Scorpios. Know why I love them? They always tell you the truth. They are brutally honest when you need them to be. And if they aren’t, it means they don’t give a damn about you. They are brutally honest about your good points too. Want an upper? Ask them what they see as your good points. And if they care…they are the best at showing you they care.

@Carmen: Well you should be proud!
Nov. 21 1961 5:38am Washington DC
Sun 28deg48′ SCO
ASC 12deg10′ SCO
Moon 16deg40′ TAU
Mercury 15deg08′ SCO
Venus 12deg50′ SCO
Mars 5deg24′ SAG
Jupiter 2deg30′ AQU
Saturn 25deg36′ CAP
Uranus 0deg24′ VIR
Neptune 11deg41′ SCO
Pluto 10deg00′ VIR
MC 20deg00′ LEO North Node 22deg05′ LEO

@Lynn
If you put your chart on the boards here:
http://boards.elsaelsa.com/
along with your question, people are sure to weigh in.

Hi, ElsaElsa, it’s ‘Lynn’ – I registered and posted my chart. Just wanted to let you know

Amazing post and comments. Wow. Thanks everyone.

Welcome, Charlie.

quantum mechanics? well yeah, and those little particle/wave babies work in multidirectional movements.

today i want to bless our planet with love, love, love….ad infinitum.

The thing about Scorpios is that if they turn thier energies inward they show the worst. If they focus them outwards as into a pretection they shine.

Thank you Elsa