Instrument Of The Universe? Elsa P, A Hired Gun
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Regarding Thoughts On Revenge, nobody (but me) touched on the idea that sometimes you run across a situation where YOU are the instrument of the universe that is supposed to act. This may be because I was somewhat off topic but I wonder if others have ever had this experience.
You are in some kind of environment and there is some problem there. Could be like a story satori tells… she pulled a rapist off some gal because someone had to do it and the someone was her.
Or me with that sexual harassment thing. My boss was running amok all over the place. He was DISSSSSSSgusting but there we no laws against this stuff at the time. “Sexual harassment was virtually unheard of but I was hell bent to get the bastard and I didn’t care if I was 17 years old.
I stayed up night after night brainstorming how I might stop this guy and eventually a window showed itself and I scrambled through it immediately.
I put a case together against this guy within 24 hours and all I had was bicycle but I feel now and I felt then that I HAD to stop him. That if anyone was going to, it was going to be me and it would be absolutely wrong for me to ignore this responsibility. So have you ever had this experience?
Have you ever felt absolutely driven and compelled to take someone out… not just for your own good but for the good of the collective?
Tell us, and tell us about your Scorpio, Mars, 8th house and Pluto since we’re dealin’ with the dirt here…
18 Responses to “Instrument Of The Universe? Elsa P, A Hired Gun”
OK, cool, I put my comments on this topic under the picture of the adorable Dora.
Yes. My partner’s mother was dating a man who she told us after they broke up was a sex offender. He had 3 daughters, all of whom excommunicated him many years before.
And then! They got back together, even though he was verbally abusive to her.
A chance conversation with my sister in law and her discomfort with this man’s behaviour around her own 2 children (my partner’s nephews) led me to tell her this.
My m.i.l had never told her about her boyfriend’s past. Needless to say my s.i.l. was horrified. The wedge was driven, they broke up, my m.i.l. fell off the wagon after 8 years of sobriety (longer than she had for her entire adult life, and she’s 70) and on and on she goes…except with ‘Kashmiri told me’ ringing in my ears. 
My Pluto is in Libra, 10th House. T-square with Moon/Mars. Saturn is in Leo in the 8th…this all went down during my SR. My mother in law is Leo Sun/Pluto conjunct…as well as 2 other planets in Leo, so Saturn hit her hard I guess. I have Capricorn Moon so I guess I was her Saturn figure???
I never thought this much about it until now, so thanks for the ability to speak about it. I think this has contributed to my never ending feelings of guilt that my mother in law is so hopelessly messed up, although of course she was messed up before I met her.
Maybe it’s the 8th House Saturn trine 12th House Neptune…I think I need to save the world lest I turn into a raving lunatic or something of the sort.
I wondered why comments were turned off. 
Yes, I’ve been in this situation, a few times. Don’t much like it but I do handle it the right way even if people don’t agree with me. It always works out that I was right to act in the end. I still hate being in that position though.
Sun in Scorpio, Mars in Virgo in 4th house, 8th house empty of planets but falls in Capricorn and Aquarius equally (if that makes sense) and Pluto is in Virgo in the 4th.
You know I used to do this ALL the time and I mean ALL the time. But now I don’t want to anymore. I got tired of all that energy…from other people, from managing the situation etc. It just eats you up. Exhausted. Must be something in my progressed chart that’s mellowing me out but lately it’s been all about me and you go and fend for yourself because I am just sick to death of taking care of everyone else’s business.
I have pluto conjunct sun and trine moon and ascendent in Scorpio.
I don’t look at any of these incidents as being about revenge? Maybe I am missing something though.
All these examples look and feel to me about doing the right thing. No one should stand by and allow injustices or to have a sex offender around undeclared.
I can say I’ve had a few moments like this. At least one situation was to the point where I remember driving aimlessly just trying to figure out why I even cared about it since it involved primarily a person I’d never even met, but I knew I had to act and act decisively. I did what I could, but I wasn’t in a particularly influential position, unfortunately. It all did work out in the end though, given a little time.
Uranus is in Scorpio and sextile Mars in Capricorn. Pluto is in the 9th in Libra and the Moon is in the 8th in Virgo.
“I don’t look at any of these incidents as being about revenge? Maybe I am missing something though.”
Daemoness – you’re right of course… that’s what I meant by being off topic. I was just confused because in the instance I cited, revenge WAS a factor. I wanted to be present when the guy was served with the 6 lawsuits (I was) because I wanted him to know it was ME who nailed his ass.
I was a teenager and I was being called, Sweet meat and sweet pussy and the like… “oh yeah, motherfucker? You’ve got big problems now..”
It was like that rather than a situation where I was detached.
UGH!!!! Just another reason why you rock Elsa, nailing that creep to the wall!!!
That’s right. And I was by faar the youngest. I was like the the little sister being groomed, the other women were 21-26 but I was the one who found the key and I knew I would be. I mean, I stayed working there because I KNEW I would be able to get this guy just as soon as I figured out how and all. 
See? We need confident people or else!
Yes I’ve tracked down people breaking into computer networks, trying to wreck stuff.
One idiot did it from his home computer duh. He was the ex systems admin (I had taken his job I guess when I was hired). Guess he had issues with that. Evidently he was pretty surprised with the detective paid him a visit.
Virgo 8th house with Jupiter in it. Merc/Neptune in Scorpio. Tracking down “bad guys” is fun.
Wow. What a creep your boss was.
Hmmm I not sure if my story fits or not. I helped a supervisor that I was friends with prove that it wasn’t him that was looking at porn at work. Another supervisor used his computer and password, but was looking at porn and my friend was afraid that he would be fired. So I showed him how to prove that it wasn’t him, and the company fired the other guy.
seems “normal” to me to step-up in unusual circumstances—-Scorpio stellium—Pluto asc.
I am the voice at work all the time. I’m usually a bit of the odd man out as well, but I guess that comes with the territory. I see something wrong, I call them on it. And then God moves me on. I’ve taught 9 years, 2 districts and in 9 schools and only one move was not my choice. A couple of times I felt like it was one or two kids that needed me and once it was to bring a bad principal to light. Saturn 8th house, Scorpio Moon and Neptune and Mars in Leo.
hey Heather, that reminded me that I once brought an abusive teacher (not alleged, there eventually was a court case) to light. I was the first stone in the well to raise the water level. a few years later the new principal (not the one who defended the abusive teacher) thanked me.
I see that as a virgo-pisces opposition and 8th house thang. it wasn’t my son being directly abused.
It’s happened before. I almost interned for someone many years ago. The first meeting was in his house and only an hour later, he expressed how attracted he was to me. That scared me and I called him on his inappropriateness. He was MARRIED for freak’s sakes and his wife was overseas! And I believe he was a 40-something year old then and I had just turned 20!!!
He tried ironing out the situation. I ended up telling him I cannot do business with him. When I returned to school, I told all the women in my department (very few) not to intern with this guy. I have not told the professors as they were very good friends with him.
Mars (Leo, 5) square Uranus (Scorpio, 8). Pluto (Libra, 7).
Oh the revenge factor. Well, I didn’t highlight it in mine but a few times I guess it was sort of revenge. With a stalker who followed me for years, once others I was protecting were gone, I nailed his ass to the wall big time. He had no idea who he was dealing with which worked to my benefit.
One other time a creepy customer went after one of my staff years ago while at work. She was terrified. I reported him to police. Had to go to court to testify against him. I was only 17 back then but I was pissed on her behalf and angry because he had been warned to stay away a few times already. At the end of testifying, a group of police officers applauded as I walked past them. I was a firey teenager back then Now, I’m just calm but I still will fight. Just have to watch my health. Stealth attack is more fun and more effective too.
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