lb meridithAs a companion series to Astrology For Beginners, here comes Astrology For Smart People and you should know these two groups are not mutually exclusive. People are here to learn astrology because they are smart, see?

I wrote about the idea a person meets Saturn figures during Saturn transits (Guideposts) and claimed this was 100% fact and I stand on that. Standard interpretation is you pay them mind and while I feel this is absolutely correct, there is some nuance involved here. If you want to maximize what astrology can do you’ve got to get out of the book and use your head. You have to go beyond what someone has laid out for you and I will give you some examples.

There is a conversation on the message boards regarding a coffee shop shooting in California. Short story, short, men with handkerchiefs tied on their faces came into a coffee shop, shot people and then fled. They made no demands. I asked if people thought this was a terrorist attack because the soldier certainly did and pretty much learned that people do not.

Futher, someone also asked why I cared. Here is Dan’s comment:

“What would you do if it proves to be a terrorist attack? And how would it directly impact your day to day living? I will continue living my life regardless. Since we really can’t completely safeguard from such actions, I see no reason to worry about it.”

I answered that I was inordinately interested in this stuff… but what I am interested in is, PUBLIC OPINION. Saturn is the public, see? The public is a Saturn Figure and during Saturn transit, I am to pay them mind.

Now I realize I have just driven you to nowhere but I promise I will deliver to those who can track this. Here is the first point… it’s simple.

During Saturn transits, you meet up with Saturn types. Some are supportive, some are chastising, some are oppressive.. or whatever It is up to individual to judge what the universe serves up. To read the tea leaves you could say.

For example, the judge that tells you if you get another DUI, he will be sending you to jail should probably be heeded. Your crappy father who continues to tell you that you’ll never amount to anything in spite of your massive accomplishments should probably be defended against.

There are endless other manifestations on this theme you will never read about in a book but can catch on to if you care to be keen and I will come back with an example.

Meantime, is anyone tracking? I’ve got to know.

* saturn figures in general are – Cops, judges, Capricorns, old men, anyone with authority over you due age, experience or possibly education, parents, grandparents

pictured, that is LB Meridith, circa 1980. Boy did I learn a lot from him…


Astrology, , , 19 comments   |   Posted at 4:08 pm 

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19 Responses to “Astrology For Smart People: Regarding Those Saturn Figures You Meet During Saturn Transits… The Advanced Course”

1.
tan
tan

Elsa, I’m a believer. Looking out for authority figures on love and marriage to give me some guidance, tell me I have it completely wrong or let me know I’m on the right track.

 
2.
Elsa
Elsa

tan, I don’t know. I don’t know your chart, or what transit you are having but if you have Saturn transiting a personal planet, INVARIABLY you will run into Saturn types (and also be called to act as one in some circumstances)

 
3.
donederin
donederin

I’ve had two Saturn figures that really stand out in my mind right away:

1) My friend John. A sniper in Vietnam and father of three sons, we met when I was in Community College. We locked eyes across the room, and it was like “Oh, hey Dad, how’s it going?”

2) My friend J. We worked together, and I overheard him giving advice to people in the office. Sometimes I could tell that his recipients didn’t really understand what he was saying, but I lit up immediately “This man, has something to teach!” Our friendship/mentorship was like bootcamp for several years.

Oh, and there was the judge who said “If I see you in here on another speeding offense, I’m gonna throw the book at you!” Somehow his sentiment penetrated the cocoon I had my lawyer build around me.

 
4.
Tam
Tam

If I understand the question correctly, then my authority figures have been doctors, medical people of all kinds.

Saturn is transiting through my fourth house running back and forth. PARKING on top of my moon for weeks. Bastard, I know you’re just backing up so you can get a good run at my moon again. LOL

 
5.
Elsa
Elsa

“You are going to die if you don’t do this and this and this…”

That’s saturn all right… ;)

 
6.
midara
midara

I definitely have. Saturn is transiting my moon, as well as my natal Saturn, and Saturn figures abound. Recently I was pulled over because my license plate light was out. The cop was so kind and told me that I looked like a good person. I was definitely flattered and humbled. Also, my father (whose Saturn conjuncts my 4 planet stellium) told me, for the first time in my life, that we really thought that I could be successful. Boy, was that gratifying.

 
7.
Elsa
Elsa

midara – GO YOU! That’s what I am talkin’ about. If you get a thumbs up from Saturn, allll right!

But even if you don’t… what you do get is always very important.

 
8.
Dorothy
Dorothy

A few years back, when Saturn was in Leo, it hit my sun, venus, and uranus. Both of my parents died – it was a long, miserable year and a half with them, because my parents were always crazy, and they did not go quietly into the night, if you know what I mean. It was brutal – cancer, dementia, having to go into a nursing home (my mother), and my father, from the stess of all that, had a series of mini-strokes, and after she died, he literally faded away. Then we had to clean out their house, go through all of their stuff (and all of our childhood stuff), and believe me, every atom bomb that has been suppressed in a family implodes when you are in the midst of parents dying. My one sister and I became closer than ever, but there were blowouts with the other two that, although we are over it, really permanently impaired the relationship. The day my mother died, I was surrounded by boxes in our apartment, because we had bought a home, and were moving in 3 days. The day after I moved, we had a major blizzard, and that weekend was her funeral (will be 3 years this valentine’s day). So anyway, that is my Saturn story.

 
9.
Elsa
Elsa

(((Dorothy)))
Very sad. You are a caretaker extraordinaire.

 
10.
Dorothy
Dorothy

Thanks Elsa – you know, my dad was a Leo, and the most heartbreaking thing about his death, was that he lost his dignity, because he lost his ability to take care of himself. I can still cry for hours about that – a proud Leo man, in a state like that. And Saturn conjuncted his sun at that time as well (oh well, such is life).

 
11.
Jilly
Jilly

I’m sorry for your loss, Dorothy.

 
12.
Iowa Lily
Iowa Lily

Saturn is squaring my Unaspected Sun right now,
I seem to be looking for “my people” and they are
nowhere to be found.
Authority is still difficult for me even at this
late stage of the game. I try and be so good around authority, but then it comes out sideways,
and then I’m really in trouble.

 
13.
Elsa
Elsa

Hi Iowa Lily, it’s been a million years. Good to see ya. :-)

Er… and if you’re not who I think you are, then welcome. :)

 
14.
kashmiri
kashmiri

(((Dorothy))) I’m sorry.

 
15.
sonah22
sonah22

Old is in- just saw this article, and it reminded me of Pluto in Cap, but this also seems like a good place for it:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/12/opinion/12collins.html?_r=1&em

 
16.
Lis
Lis

I got a lot of speeding tickets when it transited the Sun (Leo), Mars (Leo), and Mercury (Virgo).

I was pissed, because I wasn’t caught in the past, but I got caught by Saturn. I took my lead foot off the accelerator, and haven’t been bugged by any cops since.

 
17.
Amber
Amber

In the middle of massive saturn transit(s) – not a week (day) goes by without having to deal with officials (:-(). Also: the cops, as my house was broken into and my handbag stolen last weekend. It’s incredible, the amount of people having something to say over me at this time…

 
18.
omie
omie

I am h, am having a saturn transit and just this topic is on my mind. I am trying to pay attention…. and learn

 
19.
wyrdling
wyrdling

veteran teachers offering tons of support and useful insight. extraordinarily helpful and encouraging… and needed…

 


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